#emc | Logs for 2011-09-29

[00:01:06] <andypugh> There is something odd happening, but I don't know where.
[00:02:47] <andypugh> Running at 0.25A I can stall the motors, and they won't re-start. And I can't find a set of settings where they will self start in both directions.
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[00:03:51] <PCW> Also make sure you have the ferrite bead on the 3 motor leads leaving the 8I20
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[00:04:11] <andypugh> Yes, I have that
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[00:04:36] <andypugh> One thing which _is_ wrong is the length of the DC power cable. What effect does that have?
[00:05:59] <PCW> can you run them in step motor mode to check that you have all 3 phases working right
[00:06:01] <PCW> DC cable should be fairly short but we were testing with 3 feet until we started running at 30A
[00:06:36] <PCW> really long is bad
[00:07:28] <andypugh> Step-mode was the next thing to try.
[00:08:01] <andypugh> I think the problem might be wildy-varying angle comands from a bad feedback device.
[00:08:05] <PCW> also .25A is down in the noise for a 30A drive, you may need a higher current to get consistent results
[00:08:23] <andypugh> And how is the badness of long motor cables manifested?
[00:08:32] <PCW> Explosions
[00:09:02] <PCW> Oh motor cables, no problem, DC bus cables long = bad
[00:09:07] <andypugh> <hits the switch>
[00:09:24] <andypugh> I did mean bus cables.
[00:09:41] <PCW> DC bus cables should be short and stout
[00:10:32] <andypugh> How stout? I have 1.5mm^2
[00:10:41] <PCW> mainly the wiring inductance to the filter capacitor should be minimized
[00:11:16] <PCW> what is that 18 Ga?
[00:11:17] <andypugh> So, 15AWG?
[00:11:58] <PCW> thats fine so for your little 7.5A current 3 feet or so should be OK
[00:12:52] <PCW> shorter always better though
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[00:13:53] <andypugh> Yes, well, I have 10m because I didn't want to cut the wire yet.
[00:14:11] <andypugh> So, rather over 10x the length you suggest.
[00:14:12] <PCW> Yow!
[00:14:30] <andypugh> Let me shorten the wire and report back.
[00:14:56] <PCW> What is the full scale current?
[00:16:15] <andypugh> 0.5A at the moment. I don't have a PID in the system, so the motor is running full-current all the time.
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[00:28:32] <andypugh> The 8i20 does want rotor angle and not phase angle, yes?
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[00:30:48] <PCW> rotor angle
[00:35:44] <andypugh> OK, that's wrong...
[00:36:14] <andypugh> bldc.0.rawcounts was 5000. I delsigged the input, and it became 0
[00:37:24] <andypugh> Sorry, not that. signal enc1 was linking encoder.0.rawcounts and bldc.rawcounts. encoder.rawcounts was showing 5000. deleting the signal made it 0 (as it should be).
[00:37:43] <andypugh> I think I just found another embarassing andy-bug
[00:38:22] <PCW> Well one cant write code without writing bugs...
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[00:48:56] <andypugh> It isn't me, but it is properly strange
[01:07:17] <PCW> I should have the 7I76 manual done by tommorow (providing this headache goes away)
[01:13:52] <andypugh> The value of the rawcounts encoder pin changes when you net things to it, but it's an output..
[01:15:51] <andypugh> Anyway, too late to be fretting about this now.
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[01:58:03] <zhanx> ok looks like i need to learn something beside inkscape to draw in and make my g-code. any suggestions?
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[02:07:20] <jdhNC> vim
[02:09:08] <Tom_itx> where do you get ngcgui?
[02:10:47] <jdhNC> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,40/id,8285/lang,english/
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[03:56:09] <FinboySlick> Eartaker: Greetings.
[03:56:27] <Eartaker> hi
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[07:42:44] <Loetmichel> moin
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[11:44:04] <jthornton> if only I could remember what & and * do I could be a programmer on TV too
[11:45:08] * jthornton looks up function prototypes again
[11:48:01] <Tom_itx> hu?
[11:48:28] <jthornton> oh studying C++ again
[11:48:36] <jthornton> did you get ngcgui?
[11:48:49] <Tom_itx> & bit AND
[11:48:55] <Tom_itx> yes
[11:49:10] <jthornton> pointers :/
[11:49:47] <Tom_itx> mmm
[11:50:14] <jthornton> I keep forgetting which one is address of and pointer to :/
[11:50:48] <Tom_itx> http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/node10.html#SECTION001000000000000000000
[11:50:53] <psha[work]> & is address
[11:50:58] <jthornton> ok, I got it now... till I take a nap
[11:50:58] <psha[work]> &variable = pointer to variable
[11:51:02] <psha[work]> *pointer = variable
[11:51:17] <psha[work]> *& = identity
[11:51:30] <jthornton> what is the last one?
[11:51:32] <Tom_itx> so & is address and * is content
[11:51:45] <Tom_itx> ?
[11:51:46] <psha[work]> *&variable == variable
[11:51:54] <psha[work]> rougly speaking - yes
[11:52:02] <jthornton> thanks
[11:52:13] <Tom_itx> everything is roughly before the first coffee
[11:52:19] <jthornton> yea
[11:52:27] <jthornton> on my second cup here
[12:00:17] <jthornton> strangely c++ is making sense this morning
[12:00:39] <psha[work]> :)
[12:00:44] <Tom_itx> what's in your coffee??
[12:01:30] <jthornton> nothing but coffee
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[13:35:32] <JT-Shop> oh wow I won the auction on the microscope :)
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[14:16:36] <Jymmm> EVERYTHING is better with bacon... http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spam-With-Bacon-Pork-Ham/10311793
[14:16:43] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: congrats
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[14:19:17] <JT-Shop> it was an easy one Jymmm you always win with them
[14:19:29] <Jymmm> ah
[14:20:38] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Other than tuna, have you seen any other foods in these packets? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spam-Classic-Single/10290944
[14:21:18] <JT-Shop> I've never seen them on the beer aisle...
[14:23:48] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: how abotu on other aisles?
[14:24:20] <JT-Shop> never been down any other aisles
[14:24:50] <Jymmm> lol
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[15:53:07] <Jymmm> What is a source for 1/8 to 1/4" titanium rods? welding supply?
[15:54:05] * archivist thinks this is a repaet question
[15:54:20] <Jymmm> Nah, that was SS rods before.
[15:54:30] <archivist> same difference
[15:54:51] <Jymmm> Not really. I'm looking for LOCAL, not mail order.
[15:55:12] <archivist> go and ask your locals!
[15:55:13] <TekniQue> better look locally then
[15:55:26] <Jymmm> ask who locally
[15:55:32] <TekniQue> visit machine shops maybe
[15:55:37] <TekniQue> they should know
[15:55:41] <archivist> or should we google for you
[15:56:10] <Jymmm> I'm not asking for specific places, just type of places or unusual sources for them.
[15:56:51] <TekniQue> I guess welding supply
[15:56:52] <archivist> !g Jymmm dealer titanium rods
[15:56:52] <the_wench> Jymmm http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dealer+titanium+rods
[15:56:58] <Jymmm> Like heavy gauge wire at marine supply
[15:57:49] <Jymmm> archivist: You're just not getting it.
[15:58:27] <archivist> no you are not, I know how to google
[15:58:47] <Jymmm> I'm looking for resources for such things that you could find anywhere, not specific retailers
[15:59:43] <archivist> I start at google BEFORE irc, it gets results
[16:00:45] <Jymmm> If I wanted a specific retailer, yes. thats not what I'm asking.
[16:01:50] <Jymmm> If you wanted glycol (as example) where could you find it [wherever you happen to be at the time] off-the-shelf.
[16:02:26] <archivist> you asked for local supplies not postal of titanium rods, google is faster than wasting your time on irc
[16:03:14] <archivist> it is how I found suspension parts for my car yesterday
[16:03:26] <Jymmm> If you google, you'll get chem supply for the most part. But you can use prop houses, walmart, etc as they sell it as fog machine fluid.
[16:04:01] <Jymmm> It's not where can I buy it, as much as where can I find it if needed type of resources.
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[16:24:51] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, ultra support bras
[16:25:11] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Really? The underwire?
[16:25:24] <Tom_itx> <Jymmm> What is a source for 1/8 to 1/4" titanium rods?
[16:25:44] <Tom_itx> i'll let you prove me wrong
[16:25:59] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: But I didn't think sports bras had any metal/plastic clips on them at all, just elastic.
[16:26:04] <Tom_itx> more likely stainless
[16:26:22] <Jymmm> ah.
[16:27:02] <Jymmm> I still feel like sueing Victoria's Secret for FALSE ADVERTISING!
[16:27:34] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop that's how they do their sales. if you look in a day or two the same bid will be right back up there
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[16:30:31] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: That's still a good resource for SS wire at least, thanks!
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[16:38:16] <Danimal_garage> hi
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[16:55:06] <JT-Shop> hi
[16:58:33] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: I just thought of another... music store for guitar/piano strings.
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[17:01:42] <JT-Shop> they had three listed, two buy it now and one with bid or buy it now LOL
[17:03:13] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Cooking supply for titanium chop sticks!
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[17:39:43] <Tom_itx> not stainless
[17:39:46] <Tom_itx> strings that is
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[17:59:44] <Danimal_garage> did you get it John?
[18:06:58] <JT-Shop> the microscope?
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[18:09:01] * archivist wonders what sort of microscope
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[18:10:10] <Danimal_garage> yea
[18:10:33] <Danimal_garage> one for splitting atoms
[18:10:37] <Danimal_garage> what else
[18:11:11] <JT-Shop> lol it is a guaranteed win
[18:11:31] <Danimal_garage> oh i thought you bid on one yesterday
[18:11:38] <Danimal_garage> that ended in like 4 hours
[18:11:57] <JT-Shop> yea, I see today that they had more with the same buy it now price
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[18:13:00] <JT-Shop> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOOM-STAND-TRINOCULAR-ZOOM-STEREO-MICROSCOPE-7X-45X-/400223648553?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2f303b29
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[18:13:10] <IchGuckLive> Hi all from the sunny warm Germany Dark outside
[18:13:31] <Danimal_garage> fancy
[18:13:37] <IchGuckLive> Question is there a key link for driving the Axes UV with the keyboard
[18:14:00] <Danimal_garage> alt+f4
[18:14:02] <IchGuckLive> wher can i modyfy this in axis
[18:14:07] <Danimal_garage> j/k
[18:16:37] <IchGuckLive> Danimal_garage: alt+F4 kills axis
[18:17:28] <jdhNC> that would be the 'j/k' part
[18:17:54] <Danimal_garage> ha
[18:18:26] <Danimal_garage> opps sorry
[18:18:34] <Danimal_garage> didnt think you'd try it
[18:19:03] <Danimal_garage> good to know that carried over from windows though
[18:19:46] <IchGuckLive> i started axis 9Axe sim cause im not on the mashine itaself
[18:20:07] <IchGuckLive> presst Alt F4 and axis disapeard after homing
[18:20:55] <IchGuckLive> maybe the sim does not do this but it works with the arrowkeys in the other axis XYZ
[18:21:30] <Danimal_garage> alt f4 was a joke, you werent supposed to actually do it
[18:21:45] <Danimal_garage> alt+f4 ends the application
[18:21:51] <JT-Shop> IchGuckLive: did you look in HELP Quick Reference?
[18:22:17] <JT-Shop> format c: yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I'm really sure!
[18:22:58] <Danimal_garage> haha
[18:23:21] <IchGuckLive> JT-Shop: B)
[18:26:47] <archivist> IchGuckLive, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/12642
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[18:34:01] <IchGuckLive> archivist: Thanks this is gone do the job for me
[18:34:12] <IchGuckLive> By try this tomorrow in Real mode
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[18:34:59] <archivist> !wench learn key mapping is http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/12642
[18:35:00] <the_wench> I have learned key mapping is http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/12642
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[19:43:09] <jdhNC> thanks.
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[20:13:01] <JT-Shop> what happens when you have horrible latency while running a stepper machine?
[20:14:18] <JT-Shop> missed steps? slower velocity? thermonuclear explosion? velocity spikes as the drive tries to catch up and stalled steppers?
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[20:52:47] <andypugh> This is odd.
[20:52:47] <mrsunshine> JT-Shop, well if you havent made the velocity to what the latency allows i guess you could miss steps? :)
[20:52:55] <andypugh> http://imagebin.org/176771
[20:53:18] <mrsunshine> as the drivers usaly do not care or buffer steps, and the computer will put out the steps as it can :P
[20:53:24] <andypugh> That is my servo running on an 8i20 in "stepper" mode.
[20:53:42] <andypugh> So _should_ be constant speed.
[20:54:45] <andypugh> I would suspect a problem with my Resolver, but you can see the speed varying.
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[21:00:58] <archivist> JT-Shop, you also see a following error iirc
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[21:06:22] <JT-Shop> won't emc stop running a program if the latency is too high?
[21:07:00] <archivist> yes joint following error
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[22:11:47] <Danimal_garage> yawn
[22:12:18] <elmo40> blarg
[22:14:05] <Danimal_garage> hmm looks like my ti supplier is getting cheap.... these parts used to come in saw cut at .260", now they're .210". luckily they're still cleaning up, finished dimension is .196"
[22:15:03] <Danimal_garage> it's actually better as long as they clean up... i'd prefer to have to remove as little ti as possible
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[22:29:21] <JT-Shop> what does ti machine like?
[22:31:38] <Danimal_garage> stainless kinda
[22:31:52] <Danimal_garage> except it can catch fire
[22:32:34] <Danimal_garage> like a 400 series stainless
[22:32:43] <Danimal_garage> or 17-4
[22:32:51] <Danimal_garage> pre heat treated
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[22:33:59] <JT-Shop> sounds like fun, low sfm and heavy chip load?
[22:34:11] <Danimal_garage> yea
[22:34:23] <Danimal_garage> remove the heat with the chip
[22:34:35] <Danimal_garage> i run like 200-230sfm on the lathe
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[22:35:34] <JT-Shop> does it work harden like stainless or just catch on fire?
[22:36:06] <Danimal_garage> both lol
[22:36:19] <Danimal_garage> chips catch fire easy
[22:36:25] <andypugh> Do the flames re-soften it?
[22:36:29] <Danimal_garage> not as bad as mag, but still pretty bad
[22:36:39] <Danimal_garage> lol
[22:36:42] <Danimal_garage> fully
[22:36:47] <Danimal_garage> funny*
[22:39:01] <Danimal_garage> ive been selling a lot of ti lately for some reason. It goes in spirts, sometimes i wont sell any for a while
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[22:49:51] <Jymmm> Has anyone seen/used these before? http://www.amazon.com/Knipex-7102200-8-Inch-Action-Mini-Bolt/dp/B000X4KOKE
[22:51:08] <andypugh> Not since I abandoned my life of crime :-)
[22:51:13] <JT-Shop> we used to use something similar to that in the nail factory
[22:51:40] <archivist> I use a dremel for my nails darling
[22:51:57] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Do they work well, or start cramping your hands after a while?
[22:52:08] <Danimal_garage> lol
[22:52:49] <JT-Shop> at what frequency?
[22:53:03] <Danimal_garage> 40hz
[22:53:03] <JT-Shop> what diameter and hardness of material?
[22:53:47] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: 20 1/4-20 off the shelf bolts
[22:54:11] <Jymmm> (threaded rod)
[22:54:42] <andypugh> It wil damage the thread
[22:54:46] <JT-Shop> should cut that but what a mess the ends would be
[22:54:53] <andypugh> But you didn't need telling that
[22:55:05] <Jymmm> andypugh: Yeah, I know. not an issue in this case.
[22:55:25] <andypugh> Though you can get threaded rod designed for it, with plain sections.
[22:55:35] <DaViruz> might i suggest a threaded rod cutter? ;)
[22:55:49] <JT-Shop> too expensive for Jymmm
[22:56:33] <andypugh> Cheaper than those Knipex
[22:56:56] <andypugh> No, I was misled by the price of spares
[22:57:05] <Jymmm> I'm just comparing them to linemans pliers for cutting stuff.
[22:57:28] <Jymmm> just GP usage is all
[22:58:14] <andypugh> Wrong size: http://www.amazon.com/Berkley-BT-50375-8-Inch-Threaded-Cutter/dp/B002F9MRZA
[22:58:30] <Jymmm> Unless the reason andypugh abandoned his life of crime becasue crime DOES pay =)
[22:59:18] <JT-Shop> andypugh: you would be proud of me today unlike the other day...
[22:59:26] <andypugh> It's actually a bit annoying at the moment, because I need a US visitor Visa and having had a warrant out for my arrest in the US is making it difficult.
[23:00:20] <JT-Shop> I spent 3 hours carefully fixing a motor shaft, making a new 7mm key and fitting the sheave properly... the previous person used a 1/4" key and a sledge hammer to put it on :/
[23:00:43] <andypugh> Eeew!
[23:01:13] <JT-Shop> that was after several hours the other day welding up the missing bit and turning it back to a V
[23:01:15] <Jymmm> andypugh: What, did you do this --> http://www.dumblaws.com/law/938
[23:01:34] <JT-Shop> and you could get one from the hardware store over on that side of the pond
[23:02:13] <Jymmm> andypugh: (sorry, it was the first stupid felony laws google came up with)
[23:02:20] <andypugh> Indeed. I am surprised you can't there to be honest, I thought you had the same motor shaft dimensions.
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[23:02:59] <andypugh> Mainly the problem was not appearing in court to pay a fine, because they sent the letter to my home address with a normal internal stamp.
[23:03:23] <JT-Shop> 28mm shaft, SPB sheave double belt
[23:03:30] <Jymmm> andypugh: internal stamp?
[23:04:22] <andypugh> Like what you would use to send a letter from Saratoga Springs to, say, Albany. Not to the UK.
[23:04:41] <Jymmm> Ok, domestic postage instead of international postage you mean?
[23:04:49] <andypugh> Yes.
[23:04:53] <Jymmm> gotcha.
[23:05:03] <Jymmm> andypugh: traffic ticket?
[23:05:06] <JT-Shop> just a price difference here, same stamps
[23:05:14] <andypugh> Disorderly conduct.
[23:05:49] <Jymmm> andypugh: We TOLD you to stop dancing on the bar nakkid all the time, eeeeesh.
[23:06:54] <Jymmm> andypugh: I dont know how, but have you ever thought getting it resolved by mail?
[23:07:26] <andypugh> A friend and I owned a car, and were working on a summer camp. Three pretty girls persuaded us to give them a lift to a concert 300 miles away, after work. We arrived after the start of the concert. The band had decided that no tickets could be sold after the start. The girls found a gap in a fence, walked through, smiled at a security guard, and walked in. It didn't work for me. I got handcuffed and arrested.
[23:07:28] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, iirc, we ran Ti at constant feed/speed at lower rpm
[23:07:41] <Tom_itx> it'll work harden like stainless if you don't
[23:08:07] <Tom_itx> i forget exactly but we did find a sweet spot that gave decent tool life
[23:08:42] <Jymmm> andypugh: What assholes, they could of just kicked you out. Or did you take a swing at one of them?
[23:09:12] <andypugh> No, I was entirely well behaved and meek. I ought to have run, he was a huge fattie.
[23:09:31] <JT-Shop> lol
[23:09:44] <andypugh> Thing is, I can't find any records, but the US embassy say I have to bring them...
[23:09:46] <archivist> one feels so slim in the states :)
[23:09:56] <DaViruz> which you cheerfully pointed out to him? ;)
[23:10:44] <Tom_itx> that's where real cops go when they've had too many doughnuts.. security
[23:10:46] <DaViruz> oh well, sleepy time
[23:10:56] <Danimal_garage> are you calling americans fat?
[23:11:05] <archivist> yes :)
[23:11:06] <Danimal_garage> what's your BMI?
[23:11:17] <andypugh> I tried phoning (at huge expense) but Saratoga Springs court gave me a number in NYC, who gave me a number of another office in NYC, who gave me the number to Saratoga Springs court....
[23:11:20] <TekniQue> over 9000
[23:12:06] <JT-Shop> andypugh: this happened over here?
[23:12:15] <Tom_itx> so andypugh is a fugitive?
[23:12:18] <andypugh> Hmm, weight / height^2. I think I shall use Stones and centimeters.
[23:12:40] <Danimal_garage> mine is 22
[23:12:42] <Jymmm> andypugh: how long ago was this?
[23:12:52] <Danimal_garage> but i'm a fat american
[23:13:14] <DaViruz> yes all americans are exactly identical to eachother
[23:13:15] <andypugh> 1986
[23:13:22] <DaViruz> just because you aren't fat none can be
[23:13:40] <andypugh> You are the Borg. We have noticed.
[23:13:47] <JT-Shop> lol
[23:14:13] <Jymmm> andypugh: Hmmm, if it was a misdemeanor I wonder if the statue of limitations took effect. If it was failure to appear, I have no idea.
[23:14:15] <andypugh> I will probably have to gamble that if the city court can't find any records, the Visa service won't either.
[23:14:37] <Tom_itx> you traveling to the US?
[23:14:39] <Danimal_garage> i dont really know any fat people
[23:14:46] <Danimal_garage> maybe a few
[23:14:49] <Tom_itx> homeland will love to feel you up
[23:15:20] <andypugh> Yes. Actually, being deported on arrival would be no hardship anyway. I am sailing in from China, then heading straight home.
[23:15:24] <JT-Shop> there is a whole herd of them that live across the road in a trailer
[23:16:05] <Tom_itx> what's the statute of limitations? 7 years?
[23:16:33] <Tom_itx> they may have just chocked it up to those damn foreigners
[23:16:34] <Jymmm> Felony Bail Jumping charges, for example, carry a five year statute of limitations.
[23:17:22] <Danimal_garage> most of the fat people here are from across the border
[23:17:25] <Tom_itx> you're probably safe but if they detain you just tell em you know JT-Shop
[23:17:32] <Danimal_garage> ha!
[23:17:46] <Danimal_garage> with the weapons he's been building, not sure if that'll fly
[23:17:58] <Danimal_garage> might get you on a do not fly list
[23:18:32] <archivist> I think he is making a state wide protection device
[23:18:52] <Danimal_garage> can that thing fling a mellon acros the state?
[23:19:35] <Jymmm> andypugh: Apply for a US Visa, if they laugh at you, take that as a no =)
[23:20:08] <andypugh> That is what I am doing. The whole reason this matter again is because I need a visa.
[23:20:12] <Jymmm> andypugh: Your not hitting NY anyway, are you?
[23:20:21] <andypugh> No, sailing in to SF
[23:21:40] <Jymmm> andypugh: Yeah, that's what I thought. But, just in case... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAY83HIL-Jg&feature=player_embedded
[23:21:51] <Danimal_garage> ah, SF. the land of the assless chaps.
[23:22:03] <Danimal_garage> and the people who wear them
[23:22:27] <Jymmm> Danimal_garage: Only if you don't avoid the Castro District
[23:23:00] <Danimal_garage> sure, if the Castro District = the whole bay area
[23:23:40] <Jymmm> Danimal_garage: I've never seen that in the BA, heard of it in the Castro though.
[23:24:48] <Danimal_garage> im just busting your balls
[23:25:05] <andypugh> I have had a homosexual dressed in chaps on the back of my bike.
[23:25:29] <Jymmm> Danimal_garage: It's all good, but like you said, I wouldn't be surprised if that made it's way out of the Castro
[23:25:35] <andypugh> Over the Wrynose and Hardknott passes (Single track, 1:3 gradient)
[23:25:57] <andypugh> Very strong thighs she had, I was bruised.
[23:26:03] <Danimal_garage> you never go nut to butt
[23:26:51] <andypugh> On the back of a bike you mean?
[23:27:11] <Danimal_garage> yes
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[23:48:22] <JT-Shop> two more parts of the ballista done
[23:48:55] <JT-Shop> andypugh: still around?
[23:49:08] <andypugh> Aye
[23:49:11] <PCW> Glad I'm out of range...
[23:49:21] <JT-Shop> you remember the chap with the triple spindles?
[23:49:48] <JT-Shop> gantry machine from the forum
[23:51:11] <andypugh> Yes
[23:51:37] <andypugh> Have you managed to persuade him that free help from several people beats paid help from one?
[23:51:55] <JT-Shop> dead nuts simple config but he insisted on hiring me to write his configuration
[23:52:05] <andypugh> PCW, I just noticed something mental in the 8i20 driver. It's working better now.
[23:52:22] <Tom_itx> is that what all the C++ was about this morning?
[23:52:36] <JT-Shop> no, that is an ongoing study for me
[23:52:58] <JT-Shop> trying to sharpen my skills on C++
[23:53:47] <PCW> Ahh I had a motor running for a couple of days with no trouble with 8I20/BLDC what was the problem?
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[23:54:29] <JT-Shop> the computer he has is a Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz but he has horrible latency > 50k
[23:54:39] <Tom_itx> that way he has somebody to blame when he screws something up
[23:55:09] <JT-Shop> he seems level headed kind of guy
[23:55:17] <PCW> Also had the patched 7I64 running a couple of days. 0 errors
[23:55:18] <Tom_itx> are the atom 510 obsolete now?
[23:55:26] <Tom_itx> i didn't see any on newegg the other day
[23:55:28] <PCW> 525s now
[23:55:41] <Tom_itx> ok
[23:55:53] <JT-Shop> 525 has the parallel port out the back
[23:55:54] <Tom_itx> that's what i have but at the time i got mine they had plenty of 510
[23:56:01] <Tom_itx> jt, yep
[23:56:05] <andypugh> PCW: http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/mesa_8i20.c;h=4993debe5c24bde40753de0ab415e2530b3059d3;hp=fd7a65e4f88d00ba3f1a595d378b8b000ed8e084;hb=067285cffdc637cfc4e57f1eb56ecccc0cc7fbf9;hpb=cf36cfff615c112776cf5ca12fb2e8e521264285
[23:56:08] <JT-Shop> PCW: hows the new cards coming along
[23:56:42] <JT-Shop> 5i25 7i67
[23:56:58] <andypugh> They have arrived at the house of the chap wrriting the driver. And are still in the packets.
[23:57:33] <Tom_itx> tell that chap he'd better get busy
[23:58:12] <PCW> We have shippable cards but someone who shall be nameless removed the generic SSERISL driver that would have made the 7I76s I/O usable
[23:58:49] <andypugh> He has his parents visiting this weekend, so the 12' USB cable from MAC to PC, 300V PSU in the middle of the floor and servo drives are all going to have to move from the living room.
[23:59:30] <andypugh> He was led to believe that 7i67s were ready to ship for development some weeks ago...
[23:59:50] <andypugh> I would really like to know how imminent 2.5 is.
[23:59:52] <PCW> well we found 1e9 bugs