#emc | Logs for 2011-02-25

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[00:06:06] <danimal_garage> the harbor freight one that Jymmm mentioned
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[00:41:25] <emcrules_d510mo> OK I had a terminal open running downloading and installing packages i closed the terminal by mistake. How do I get it back
[00:44:26] <cradek> it killed the process
[00:44:26] <danimal_garage> sudo timemachine
[00:44:31] <cradek> just start it again
[00:44:39] <cradek> if it was still downloading, it'll resume
[00:47:50] <emcrules_d510mo> I think its still running. if i start it again i get. E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:48:40] <Valen> emcrules_d510mo: use screen for stuff
[00:48:53] <Valen> emcrules_d510mo: did you run it again with sudo?
[00:49:03] <Valen> also PS -Af | grep "apt"
[00:49:43] <emcrules_d510mo> yes i used sudo
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[01:30:42] <emcrules_d510mo> I cant express how much i hate the dlink dir1522 bridge
[01:30:43] <elmo40> emcrules_d510mo: evening
[01:31:01] <emcrules_d510mo> hello elmo
[01:31:17] <elmo40> how goes it?
[01:31:31] <elmo40> oh crap... someone at the door pushing a product. give me a moment ;)
[01:32:07] <emcrules_d510mo> better now that i bypassed my bridge
[01:33:10] <emcrules_d510mo> going to have to buy a wireless card for the atom
[01:34:53] <emcrules_d510mo> downloading a 20k/sec sucks
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[01:36:58] <emcrules_d510mo> pulled out my 5i20 and put in a pci wireless card. Whamo back to 300k/sec
[01:37:01] <elmo40> emcrules_d510mo: pcmcia wifi card?
[01:37:28] <elmo40> nm ;)
[01:37:53] <elmo40> so... i installed Squeeze on my home machine. I already broke apt >_<
[01:38:26] <elmo40> tried to install E17 with what now appears to be some sketchy packages. Not very nice, i tellz ya.
[01:38:48] <emcrules_d510mo> no my atom is in my office upstairs so i had a bridge to get hard lines for devices that did not have wireless. end result bridge laying on ground in pieces
[01:39:04] <emcrules_d510mo> ouch start from scratch?
[01:39:27] <elmo40> ya, i think
[01:39:44] <elmo40> it is a fresh install, nothing lost (but time and data writes)
[01:40:08] <elmo40> for some reason it doesnt even see the second drive. i cant mount it.
[01:40:32] <emcrules_d510mo> I know that feeling. I got a bum ssd from mini-box
[01:41:02] <emcrules_d510mo> would not take an install
[01:41:53] <elmo40> on a side note. i pulled apart a samsung multi-camera surveillance system. it uses an embedded ARM9 :) I wonder how i can use it. i wonder if the OS is on an ePROMM chip or something.
[01:42:15] <elmo40> emcrules_d510mo: can u write to the ssd when hooked to something else?
[01:42:51] <emcrules_d510mo> don't know yet haven't played with it since.
[01:43:28] <emcrules_d510mo> do you still want that pendant?
[01:43:56] <elmo40> i have a Heini 12-pack waiting for it :)
[01:44:25] <emcrules_d510mo> You can probably pick it up this weekend
[01:44:45] <elmo40> sorry, heading to ottawa by 9am sat morning
[01:45:51] <emcrules_d510mo> What about tomorrow night?
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[02:13:02] <danimal_garage> hi
[02:13:03] <the_wench> hello danimal_garage, you have a question?
[02:16:27] <emcrules_d510mo> that never gets old does it
[02:19:36] <danimal_garage> it's a little old
[02:19:42] <danimal_garage> hi hello
[02:19:55] <danimal_garage> hi
[02:19:55] <the_wench> hello danimal_garage, you have a question?
[02:20:04] <danimal_garage> hmmm, doesnt work if you do it twice
[02:20:09] <emcrules_d510mo> hi
[02:20:10] <the_wench> hello emcrules_d510mo, you have a question?
[02:20:12] <danimal_garage> hello must cancel out hi
[02:20:20] <danimal_garage> like a double negative
[02:20:23] <emcrules_d510mo> lol
[02:20:36] <danimal_garage> how's your 510 treating you?
[02:21:27] <emcrules_d510mo> so i have emc source and git and have modified a comp. What is the proper way to test?
[02:21:42] <emcrules_d510mo> 510 is good
[02:21:56] <danimal_garage> cool, i just got one myself
[02:22:32] <emcrules_d510mo> cradek, you around?
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[02:40:45] <danimal_garage> easy day today
[02:43:10] <Jymmm> Whos carrys 2-256 screws?
[02:43:24] <atmega328> 2-56?
[02:43:29] <Jymmm> 2-256
[02:43:42] <danimal_garage> mcmaster?
[02:43:51] <Jymmm> I hate mcmaster
[02:43:53] <danimal_garage> standard thread
[02:43:55] <danimal_garage> me too
[02:43:59] <danimal_garage> fastenal
[02:44:09] <danimal_garage> msc
[02:44:11] <Jymmm> fastenal is mostly construction
[02:44:15] <danimal_garage> enco
[02:44:20] <danimal_garage> ace hardware
[02:44:28] <Jymmm> LOL
[02:44:30] <danimal_garage> fastenal does carry it
[02:44:35] <Jymmm> lets see if enco does
[02:44:37] <danimal_garage> ace does too
[02:44:38] <cradek> you know those threads are .004 inches pitch? I don't think you're going to find that thread
[02:44:56] <Jymmm> cradek: I already have some, just need different head
[02:45:05] <cradek> have a pic?
[02:45:11] <Jymmm> no
[02:45:25] <cradek> what are they for? must be something very special
[02:45:31] <cradek> microscope table?
[02:45:39] <Jymmm> laser
[02:45:43] <cradek> ahh cool
[02:45:51] <danimal_garage> cradek, it's standard
[02:45:57] <cradek> wild
[02:46:10] <danimal_garage> i have a 1/4-60 if you want to see wild
[02:46:11] <Jymmm> it's the one size smaller than 4-40
[02:46:16] <danimal_garage> and an 0-80
[02:46:31] <danimal_garage> there is a #3 as well
[02:46:41] <cradek> yeah 3-48 and 2-56 are very common
[02:46:48] <Jymmm> #3 is sheet metal isn't it?
[02:46:50] <cradek> 2-256 I've certainly never seen
[02:46:59] <atmega328> I have lots of 2-56, but 2-256 would be something
[02:46:59] <danimal_garage> 2-56 is
[02:47:00] <cradek> no, these are standard machine threads
[02:47:23] <danimal_garage> i have a bunch of 2-56 taps, definitely standard
[02:47:31] <cradek> me too - boxes of 'em
[02:47:47] <cradek> http://www.sizes.com/tools/thread_american.htm
[02:47:47] * atmega328 looks around for the crack pipe
[02:48:01] <cradek> atmega328: my thoughts too, but I've been wrong before
[02:48:29] <danimal_garage> ohhh, you're being a smartass lol
[02:48:34] <danimal_garage> i guess i'm slow
[02:48:38] <cradek> ?
[02:48:44] <danimal_garage> he ment 2-56
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[02:49:04] <danimal_garage> he corrected himself, i thought you knew
[02:49:10] <seb_kuzminsky> 2-256 is the standard pipe thread used on crack pipes
[02:49:16] <danimal_garage> haha
[02:49:17] <cradek> 20:43 < Jymmm> Whos carrys 2-256 screws?
[02:49:17] <cradek> 20:43 < atmega328> 2-56?
[02:49:17] <cradek> 20:43 < Jymmm> 2-256
[02:49:25] <Tom_L> try a hobby store
[02:49:29] <cradek> I don't see a correction
[02:49:35] <cradek> but whatever, I don't care about this anymore
[02:49:41] <danimal_garage> ah
[02:49:41] <atmega328> heh
[02:49:44] <danimal_garage> opps
[02:49:57] <danimal_garage> i've never been much of a reader
[02:50:13] <Tom_L> who was it using those APEX itx cases?
[02:50:30] <Tom_L> did you use a 2.5" drive and if so how did you go about mounting it?
[02:51:14] <cradek> bbl, need to find dinner II
[02:51:26] <seb_kuzminsky> see you cradek
[02:51:47] <danimal_garage> adios
[02:51:55] <Jymmm> Had to look at the drawing, 2-56
[02:53:03] <Tom_L> how long?
[02:53:30] <Jymmm> no more than 3/8 I'd suspect
[02:53:30] <atmega328> makes it easier, everyone has 2-56 :)
[02:53:48] <Jymmm> atmega328: ha
[02:53:57] <Jymmm> atmega328: hit home depot and say that
[02:54:05] <Tom_L> i think i have a whole tube full here
[02:54:17] <Jymmm> Tom_L: what head?
[02:54:28] <danimal_garage> i knew it was 2-56 :)
[02:54:37] <Tom_L> nope, that tube is 4-40
[02:54:42] <Jymmm> danimal_garage: Go blow it out yout DC!
[02:54:46] <Tom_L> i got some here somewhere
[02:55:28] <Tom_L> does Fastenal carry any that small?
[02:55:52] <Jymmm> yes, but those fsckeers want $35 for a can of 77
[02:55:56] <Tom_L> my local surplus guy does
[02:55:56] <emcrules_d510mo> jp@D510mo:~/emc2-dev$ emc
[02:55:56] <emcrules_d510mo> EMC2 - 2.5.0~pre
[02:55:57] <emcrules_d510mo> Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/home/jp/emc2-dev/tcl/bin/../emc.so": /home/jp/emc2-dev/tcl/bin/../emc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:55:57] <emcrules_d510mo> while executing
[02:55:57] <emcrules_d510mo> "load [file join [file dirname [info script]] emc[info sharedlibextension]]"
[02:55:58] <emcrules_d510mo> (file "/home/jp/emc2-dev/tcl/bin/../emc.tcl" line 59)
[02:56:00] <emcrules_d510mo> invoked from within
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[02:56:02] <emcrules_d510mo> "source [file join [file dirname [info script]] .. emc.tcl]"
[02:56:04] <emcrules_d510mo> (file "/home/jp/emc2-dev/tcl/bin/pickconfig.tcl" line 29)
[02:56:06] <Tom_L> gawd
[02:56:24] <Jymmm> emcrules_d510mo: codepad.org please
[02:57:26] <emcrules_d510mo> http://codepad.org/WN0FTjcN
[02:58:04] <emcrules_d510mo> any clues to what i messed up during build?
[03:05:39] <seb_kuzminsky> emcrules_d510mo: does emc2-dev/tcl/emc.so exist? the error message says it does not exits
[03:07:39] <emcrules_d510mo> No it's not there
[03:08:21] <seb_kuzminsky> did you run make?
[03:08:27] <emcrules_d510mo> yes
[03:08:53] <seb_kuzminsky> did make finish without error?
[03:08:59] <elmo40> emcrules_d510mo: tomorrow evening would be perfect. when/where?
[03:08:59] <emcrules_d510mo> yes
[03:09:28] <emcrules_d510mo> Elmo40: my house around 8:00pm
[03:11:33] <emcrules_d510mo> Seb_kuzminsky, sorry configure ran fine make did not
[03:11:46] <seb_kuzminsky> ok that makes more sense
[03:12:07] <seb_kuzminsky> what did make croak on?
[03:12:25] <emcrules_d510mo> http://codepad.org/60qdUjpN
[03:13:10] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, your pokeys comp is broken
[03:13:15] <emcrules_d510mo> ah my comp is nfg
[03:14:05] <emcrules_d510mo> well more like my hack at your comp
[03:17:01] <emcrules_d510mo> so should i be looking at like 404 of the comp?
[03:17:10] <emcrules_d510mo> line 404
[03:18:13] <cradek> no, it looks like pretty much all the lines of the comp are bad
[03:18:17] <seb_kuzminsky> no, the "line 404" in the error message is where in the "comp" tool it choked, it's got nothing to do with your pokeys.comp
[03:18:51] <seb_kuzminsky> do you have a bunch of "#" characters in the docs in your comp?
[03:18:53] <cradek> paste the comp
[03:19:15] <seb_kuzminsky> how was second dinner chris?
[03:19:23] <cradek> it was good
[03:19:40] <cradek> leftover whatever-curry and a big red bell pepper that needed eatin'
[03:19:56] <seb_kuzminsky> leftover curry ftw
[03:20:21] <emcrules_d510mo> http://codepad.org/gSmPst9v
[03:20:33] <cradek> oh - that's not a comp
[03:20:35] <seb_kuzminsky> emcrules_d510mo: dude thats not a comp
[03:20:43] <seb_kuzminsky> it's like there's two of us here
[03:21:07] <cradek> I'm redundant, sorry
[03:21:13] <seb_kuzminsky> that's a C file, it wants to be compiled with gcc, not comp
[03:21:22] <seb_kuzminsky> you keep beating me to the punchline
[03:21:25] <emcrules_d510mo> i could nt understand how to get the c to comp
[03:21:35] <emcrules_d510mo> ah ok
[03:22:06] <seb_kuzminsky> look at src/hal/user_comps/Submakefile
[03:23:37] <seb_kuzminsky> eh, i think i'll go drill some holes
[03:26:48] <emcrules_d510mo> so would i use "comp --install shuttlexpress.c" to compile and install?
[03:27:40] <emcrules_d510mo> if that was the name of the "c" file
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[03:44:39] <emcrules_d510mo> Ok i must be missing something how do I compile this? I followed the comp docs but no luck.
[03:45:22] <garage_seb> it's not a comp
[03:45:25] <garage_seb> it's a c file
[03:45:30] <garage_seb> dont compile it with comp
[03:45:40] <garage_seb> use gcc, like in the submakefile i told you about
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[03:53:58] <emcrules_d510mo> Ok why would i get an error about #include "hal.h"
[03:55:04] <garage_seb> what's the error?
[03:55:59] <emcrules_d510mo> http://codepad.org/I2f2Ckhz
[03:56:45] <garage_seb> you need to supply many many arguments to gcc
[03:56:53] <garage_seb> i don't know what they all are, but the submake file knows
[03:57:18] <garage_seb> edit the submakefile, copy the bits about shuttlexpress and replace it with the name of your new comp
[03:58:56] <emcrules_d510mo> sorry this is all new to me. I am using the same filename for now. should it not go?
[03:59:15] <garage_seb> it's confusing that you're using the same filename
[03:59:44] <garage_seb> i think you should make a copy of shuttlexpress.c and name it something to do with the hardware you're trying to write the driver for
[03:59:46] <emcrules_d510mo> i know i just wanted to take small steps first
[04:00:28] <emcrules_d510mo> I agree but my learning curve is steep with the compiling and stuff
[04:00:35] <garage_seb> "cp" is a small step ;-)
[04:01:43] <emcrules_d510mo> lol it's just alot to take in but i enjoy it
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[05:03:58] <emcrules_d510mo> seb you there?
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[09:29:45] <alex_joni> yay, more snow :/
[09:29:48] <alex_joni> http://www.anaisanoukbadina.com/2011/02/25/drumul-catre-gradi/
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[10:47:48] <psha[work]> mk0: succeded?
[10:50:37] <mk0> not yet. tomorrow will have an access to working pc. Wife has plans on me.
[10:50:51] <psha[work]> :)
[10:51:11] <mrsunshine> well, spindle motor on again, need to connect it up now as soon as i get one of those "wedges?" (that goes between the pulley and the axle to hold it in place :P) .. =)
[10:53:22] <mk0> it's not funny. I hate jewelry shops :-\
[10:54:39] <mrsunshine> mk0, hahaha :P
[10:54:51] <mrsunshine> thats why one does not follow there :P
[11:04:00] <psha[work]> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.lesswatts.general/548
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[11:43:55] <archivist> psha[work], useful, could use those boards with poor power management :)
[11:45:45] <psha[work]> archivist: hope so :)
[11:46:19] <archivist> !wench learn bits is http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.lesswatts.general/548
[11:46:20] <the_wench> I have learnt bits is http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.lesswatts.general/548
[11:47:07] <Valen> http://www.satisled.com/300w-high-power-leds-red-green-blue-white-warm-white-yellow-for-choice_p165.html
[11:47:11] <archivist> or a direct link to http://biosbits.org/
[11:49:18] <psha[work]> Valen: 300W is really "Warm" White :)
[11:49:30] <Valen> rather warm I'd imagine
[11:49:53] <Valen> I did want to upgrade the headlights in my car
[11:50:24] <Valen> I figure if its not melting the bumper of the car in front it should be legal right?
[11:50:29] <psha[work]> yea, to burn slowpokes
[11:50:50] <Valen> I'd rather burn the retinas off all the people who don't know how to adjust their lights
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[11:51:04] <psha[work]> Valen: i guess if it's not burning car close then 10m - it's ok
[11:51:12] <psha[work]> s/close/closer
[11:51:13] <archivist> yau blind them, they drive into YOU
[11:51:27] <Valen> archivist: nah my car is fast enough to get out of the way ;-P
[11:51:39] <Valen> psha[work]: besides thats what the IR laser is for ;-P
[11:51:53] <psha[work]> place more of them, they won't drive into you - they burn in fron of you leaving road free
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[11:53:15] <Valen> lol
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[12:20:20] <emcrules_mobile> jthornton, you around
[12:21:36] <jthornton> yea
[12:21:51] <jthornton> what have you got figured out?
[12:22:15] <jthornton> I got mine working I think with a firmware upgrade\
[12:23:04] <emcrules_mobile> not much yet having a hard time compiling with gcc
[12:24:16] <jthornton> what are you compiling?
[12:24:56] <emcrules_mobile> user comp c file
[12:25:17] <emcrules_mobile> modbus.c as an example
[12:25:28] <jthornton> your changing seb's for the pokeys?
[12:25:40] <emcrules_mobile> yes
[12:26:24] <jthornton> gcc is not too bad to use what is hanging you up?
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[12:28:18] <emcrules_mobile> when I compile I get errors relating to the compiler not seeing the hal.h
[12:29:28] <jthornton> what was the name of seb's comp
[12:29:46] <emcrules_mobile> I tried to compile the modbus file just to check without making any mods and I get the same errors
[12:30:04] <emcrules_mobile> shuttlexpress.c
[12:30:36] <jthornton> lol I need to do a pull here I don't have it
[12:31:45] <jthornton> are you doing this with a git version?
[12:31:48] <emcrules_mobile> should I not just be able to run make in the user comp dir
[12:32:08] <emcrules_mobile> yes
[12:32:28] <emcrules_mobile> master
[12:32:32] <jthornton> probably best to just build the RIP
[12:32:45] <jthornton> it is so convoluted how it works
[12:33:30] <jthornton> you working with master?
[12:33:51] <emcrules_mobile> yep and its all new to me so its painfull
[12:34:42] <jthornton> ok I'm up to date and see the shuttlexpress.c now :)
[12:35:05] <emcrules_mobile> that's the version git first pulls is it not
[12:35:30] <jthornton> that is a busy little comp
[12:35:34] <jthornton> ?
[12:37:36] <emcrules_mobile> when I first loaded git it created my dev folder based on master correcrt?
[12:38:02] <jthornton> it should yes
[12:38:12] <emcrules_mobile> I followed the wikki instr
[12:39:03] <emcrules_mobile> then that's what I'm working with
[12:39:38] <jthornton> looks like you need to add your comp to the Submakefile then build the RIP
[12:40:19] <emcrules_mobile> how do I do thjat
[12:40:38] <jthornton> build the RIP?
[12:40:46] <jthornton> or add your comp?
[12:40:55] <emcrules_mobile> the submsake that is
[12:41:52] <jthornton> look at the Submakefile in the src/hal/user_comps directory and you can see where shuttlexpress.c is and kinda copy that I think
[12:44:15] <emcrules_mobile> if you compile it what happens
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[12:45:51] <emcrules_mobile> I tried that last night and keep getting the same error
[12:46:47] <emcrules_mobile> when I run make I get a no target error
[12:47:14] <jthornton> that sounds like something wrong with the submakefile or something
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[12:49:31] <jthornton> did you upgrade your firmware?
[12:50:09] <emcrules_mobile> the submake file right from source so I don't know what to check
[12:50:37] <emcrules_mobile> yes the firmware is current as of 3 weeks ago
[12:51:22] <jthornton> so the stuck on condition is now gone?
[12:52:23] <emcrules_mobile> does the submake file tell the compiler where to look for lib's
[12:52:49] <emcrules_mobile> no stuck condition is still there
[12:53:30] <jthornton> then you need to download the lastest software and it will upgrade your firmware and that problem is fixed
[12:53:34] <alex_joni> jthornton: 1ft of snow last night
[12:53:38] <jthornton> I did that yesterday
[12:53:54] <jthornton> alex_joni: snow ball kind or powder?
[12:53:59] <alex_joni> powder
[12:54:14] <alex_joni> had to dig my car out this morning
[12:54:36] <jthornton> your not playing in the snow with the children?
[12:54:56] <psha[work]> game 'who digs car first'
[12:55:13] <alex_joni> jthornton: too small
[12:56:01] <jthornton> you or the baby?
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[13:06:19] <alex_joni> jthornton: ha
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[13:07:45] <psha[work]> alex_joni: 2yrs is enought to play
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[13:08:13] <psha[work]> at least mine is happy with deep snow :)
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[13:16:09] <alex_joni> psha[work]: yeah, but he's away from 2yrs ;)
[13:16:20] <alex_joni> only 1.5 so far, he does like the snow though
[13:22:51] <emcrules_mobile> when compiling does the old executable need to be removed before compile or will it be overwritten
[13:22:52] <psha[work]> snow was not fine for mine in 1.5 - but that's was in June :)
[13:24:16] <jthornton> if you have changed something the old files will be overwritten
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[13:39:37] <emcrules_mobile> will "make" just use the submake file or does it have to be specified with the -f option
[13:39:54] <alex_joni> emcrules_mobile: you only need to issue make
[13:39:59] <alex_joni> in emc2/src/
[13:40:11] <alex_joni> it then traverses all makeable locations and builds what changed
[13:41:17] <emcrules_mobile> I thought if I was recompiling a user comp that it had to be done in that directory?
[13:43:29] <psha[work]> emcrules_mobile: there is no makefile in comp's dir
[13:43:46] <psha[work]> and Submakefile is only useful as a part of whole
[13:46:25] <emcrules_mobile> yes I am understanding more now
[13:50:07] <emcrules_mobile> so if I run make in emc2-dev/src only what has been changed in any folder will be recompiled?
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[13:58:14] <psha[work]> yes
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[14:07:27] <emcrules_mobile> so durring compile why would I get an error related to hal.h. when I compile it looks like the include hal.h is dependency is not being found.
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[14:29:14] <pcw_home> 300W LED flashlight?
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[14:43:17] <atmega328> 300W LED driver would need some serious cooling
[14:47:21] <alex_joni> pcw_home: this one is 30W http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkU0UO3sek
[14:47:25] <alex_joni> 500 LEDs
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[15:44:20] <JT-Work> yea! the new computer parts are here :)
[15:46:13] <atmega328> what did you get me?
[15:47:26] <alex_joni> the old ones
[15:47:50] <atmega328> I already have those.
[15:47:53] <JT-Work> LOL
[15:48:07] <JT-Work> I wish I had time to put them in...
[15:51:41] <JT-Work> YEA! it has a floppy header too
[15:52:10] <psha> :)
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[16:07:33] <skunkworks> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,17611.0.html
[16:09:48] <JT-Work> :)
[16:12:12] <skunkworks> 10hz is scary
[16:13:25] <skunkworks> I remember steve s talking about that. (he creates a lot of hardware for mach)
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[16:27:56] <danimal_garage> 10hz is pretty friggin slow, aint it?
[16:29:12] <archivist> yes
[16:29:48] <psha> 10hz is very nice rate - at least any USB device will be fast enought to work with it
[16:30:38] <danimal_garage> what's emc usually work at? over 100hz, right? Depends mostly on latency?
[16:30:50] <archivist> are you sure, I thought usb 1 was dog slow if you plugged something in
[16:31:42] <skunkworks> well - the base thread could be in the 30+khz range. The servo thread runs at 1khz by default. you can make your own 'thread'
[16:31:56] <danimal_garage> ah
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[16:32:39] <skunkworks> (some limitations that exscape me at the moment. like they have to be interager multibles of each other.. Maybe )
[16:32:48] <micges> yay weekend here <beer>
[16:33:04] <skunkworks> micges: nice! few more hours here...
[16:33:19] <JT-Work> you have to wait for the weekend :P
[16:33:47] <micges> skunkworks: you can make it ;)
[16:34:17] <skunkworks> heh
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[16:39:21] <Gurgalof> Do i have to compile to install simulator version on ubuntu 10.10?
[16:39:35] <micges> today finally arrived spindle 12kW :D
[16:39:36] <Gurgalof> Maverick that is
[16:39:53] <micges> we will have toy next week to play with
[16:41:04] <JT-Work> micges: cool
[16:41:33] <JT-Work> Gurgalof: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2
[16:41:44] <micges> Gurgalof: yes, but this is rather painless procedure
[16:44:17] <Gurgalof> I know it is painless, but takes time, thats why i asked
[16:44:54] <Gurgalof> I am used to compile software now :)
[16:45:12] <micges> there is no package yet
[16:45:45] <Gurgalof> No problem, thanks anyway
[16:46:57] <Gurgalof> Emc2 is really nice btw
[16:48:40] <Gurgalof> Much better than expensive mach 3
[16:49:27] <micges> I agree
[16:52:06] <micges> with what machine do you use emc2?
[16:53:10] <Gurgalof> Not me but Chalmers Robot Society, we are using a Optimum BF20
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[16:54:25] <Gurgalof> I am installing emc om my own computer now to "check" my gcode before going to the machine
[16:56:49] <Gurgalof> I guess i should use v2.4branch?
[16:57:29] <micges> yes
[16:57:32] <skunkworks> Gurgalof: sweden?
[16:57:53] <Gurgalof> Skunkworks, yes
[16:58:07] <micges> Poland here
[16:59:25] <Gurgalof> And you skunkworks?
[17:02:08] <psha> Yes, he's skunkworks
[17:02:27] <psha> generaly you need 2.4 branch - if you don't use some stuff that was added later
[17:03:32] <micges> or you need 2.4 branch if you need stable emc for work
[17:03:33] <Gurgalof> I guess 2.4 will be just fine
[17:03:38] <psha> jthornton: in HAL subforum in 'online docs' thread links to docs are very outdated
[17:03:48] <skunkworks> Wisconsin
[17:04:02] <psha> micges: 2.5 is pretty stable
[17:04:32] <psha> micges: until you merge ja3 ;)
[17:04:49] <micges> hehehe
[17:04:55] <micges> agree
[17:05:21] <micges> today I used ja3 whole day
[17:05:46] <psha> Gurgalof: main problem is compiling RTAI kernel, not EMC
[17:05:57] <micges> it have some bugs ;)
[17:06:21] <psha> but if you need simulator to check gcode you may pick sim packages from 10.04 - there are chances that they'll just work
[17:06:32] <Gurgalof> Good thing that i will be using simulator vesion then
[17:06:59] <Gurgalof> Already started compiling
[17:07:03] <psha> building sim EMC is very simple - at least in RIP mode
[17:07:09] <psha> i have one on eeepc netbook :)
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[18:22:08] <psha> JT-Shop: in HAL subforum in 'online docs' thread links to docs are very outdated
[18:22:30] <JT-Shop> psha: thanks
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[18:54:21] <Seeyah> hello everybody
[18:54:30] <skunkworks> Hello
[18:54:30] <the_wench> hello skunkworks, you have a question?
[18:54:33] <skunkworks> heh
[18:55:18] <Jymmm> Hello
[18:55:18] <the_wench> hello Jymmm, you have a question?
[18:55:22] <Seeyah> does someone know if you can put 2 stepper drivers parallel on 2 wires in stead of 4 wires on the parallel port?
[18:55:24] <Tom_itx> hi
[18:55:24] <the_wench> hello Tom_itx, you have a question?
[18:55:27] <Jymmm> who's bot is that?
[18:55:31] <Tom_itx> hello
[18:55:31] <the_wench> hello Tom_itx, you have a question?
[18:55:44] <Tom_itx> useless bots
[18:55:57] <Connor> Yea, That's gonna have to go
[18:56:04] -!- mode/#emc [+o Jymmm] by ChanServ
[18:58:11] <Jymmm> archivist: WTF?!
[18:58:29] <Connor> ??
[18:58:43] -!- mode/#emc [+q the_wench!*@*] by Jymmm
[18:58:45] <psha> aaa, op incoming!!11
[18:58:50] * psha hides
[18:59:08] -!- mode/#emc [-q the_wench!*@*] by Jymmm
[18:59:10] <archivist> Jymmm, its to get the noob who joins says hello and goes because there is no reply
[18:59:38] <Tom_itx> that's what rue says in a few other channels but i think they're useless
[19:00:13] <Jymmm> archivist: It's annoying
[19:00:33] <Tom_itx> unless it can answer any question i ask
[19:00:34] <archivist> so are you sometimes
[19:00:40] <Tom_itx> heh
[19:00:51] -!- mode/#emc [+b the_wench!*@*] by Jymmm
[19:01:04] <Tom_itx> some bots actually do answer with good answers
[19:01:13] -!- mode/#emc [-o Jymmm] by ChanServ
[19:01:37] <Tom_itx> index the emc help files with a word lookup for a start
[19:01:41] <Connor> Whhoho.. Jymmm had a nice star by his name... I wouldn't be pi$$ing him off. :)
[19:02:01] <Jymmm> Connor: I dont play that
[19:02:06] <Connor> :)
[19:02:22] <Connor> I'm just messin.
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[19:11:57] <alex_joni> Jymmm: I did see it help a couple times :)
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[19:15:16] <Seeyah> does someone know if you can put 2 stepper drivers paralllel on 2 wires in stead of 4 wires on the parallel port?
[19:16:32] <archivist> Seeyah, you could but why? gantry?
[19:17:11] <cradek> the only possible problem would be a breakout board that can't adequately drive the inputs of two drivers
[19:17:37] <Jymmm> hello
[19:17:38] <the_wench> hello Jymmm, you have a question?
[19:17:38] <Jymmm> hello
[19:17:39] <the_wench> hello Jymmm, you have a question?
[19:17:40] <Jymmm> hello
[19:17:40] <the_wench> hello Jymmm, you have a question?
[19:17:41] <Jymmm> hello
[19:17:41] <the_wench> hello Jymmm, you have a question?
[19:17:42] <Jymmm> hello
[19:17:42] <the_wench> hello Jymmm, you have a question?
[19:18:17] <alex_joni> Jymmm: now you're beeing silly
[19:18:30] <Jymmm> No, I'm making a point.
[19:18:46] <archivist> I respond to requests to change factoids
[19:19:51] <archivist> Jymmm, you can also not when an on topic conversation is on and dont interrupt
[19:20:11] <archivist> s/noy/
[19:21:21] <Jymmm> archivist: It's IRC, multiple conversations happen concurrently. If you want a one-on-one conversation, take it privately.
[19:21:28] <Tom_itx> add a random feature to it so it doesn't answer every time
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[19:22:20] <archivist> it has a random, if there are multiple factoids per trigger
[19:22:25] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: That would be the intelligent/behaving bot methodology that most bots use.
[19:22:39] <cradek> I think it should only answer once per join
[19:22:51] <Tom_itx> or once per week
[19:22:57] <Tom_itx> if ever
[19:23:21] <cradek> and probably only if the first thing the user says, after a join, is the 'hello'
[19:24:05] <atmega328> or just /ignore it
[19:27:30] <Jymmm> atmega328: That shouldn't be necessary for most well behaving bots.
[19:28:16] <archivist> Ill look at the suggestions, wont respond to hi and hello till I decide which way
[19:28:25] <atmega328> it's an irc bot, not an AI or a research project :)
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[19:28:45] <archivist> atmega328++
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[19:28:55] <Tom_itx> hello Tiggr
[19:28:55] <Tiggr> hieeeee Tom itx! How are you doing today?
[19:28:58] <Tom_itx> good
[19:28:58] * Tiggr is good too :-)
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[19:29:12] <Tom_itx> Tiggr what is 4-40
[19:29:29] <katsmeow-afk> she doesn't do math
[19:29:29] <rue_house> ?
[19:29:32] <rue_house> no
[19:29:34] <rue_house> thread
[19:29:38] <atmega328> the method of air conditioning for my first car
[19:29:42] <katsmeow-afk> Tigr, what is 4-40 screwsize?
[19:29:47] <katsmeow-afk> Tiggr, what is 4-40 screwsize?
[19:29:49] <Tiggr> sorry katsmeow, I don't know.
[19:29:56] <katsmeow-afk> yes you do
[19:30:00] <rue_house> #4, 40tpi
[19:30:02] <katsmeow-afk> Tiggr, what is screwsize 4-40?
[19:30:04] <Tiggr> screwsize 4-40 : DrillBitFor 75%:44 ; DrillBitFor 70%:44 ; DrillBitFor 65%:43 ; MajorDiameter:0.112 ; MinorDiameter:0.0813 ; Pitch:0.0250 ; ClearanceDrill:31
[19:30:18] <Tom_itx> see the difference?
[19:30:27] <katsmeow-afk> a hunk of code is down because a search for "the" became a db dump
[19:30:44] <atmega328> Tiggr, how do you pick up hot chicks
[19:30:46] <Tiggr> I don't seem to have that word in my file, atmega
[19:30:58] <atmega328> oh yeah, linux user.
[19:31:07] <rue_house> heh
[19:31:14] <katsmeow-afk> and that's why she won't learn from irc anymore
[19:31:45] <Tom_itx> Tiggr where is indonesia
[19:31:47] <Tiggr> indonesia : a republic in southeastern Asia on an archipelago including more than 13,000 islands; achieved independence from the Netherlands in 1945; the principal oil producer in the Far East and Pacific regions
[19:32:34] <rue_house> Tiggr, what is CNC
[19:32:36] <Tiggr> CNC : Computer Numerical Control
[19:32:37] <Tiggr> Computerized Numerical Control
[19:32:38] <Tiggr> Computer Numeric Control
[19:32:39] <Tiggr> Computerized Numerical Control
[19:32:40] <Tiggr> Counter-Narcotics Center (CIA); Crime and Narcotics Center
[19:32:48] <Tom_itx> Tiggr what is a 12au7?
[19:32:50] <Tiggr> 12au7 : (aka ECC82, 6067, B329, M8136) ; 12v heater/filament ; Medium-mu twin triode
[19:32:52] <Tiggr> Socket: 9-pin Miniature T6-1/2 ; 9A ; 12.6V/6.3V@150mA/300mA ; Double Medium-Mu Twin Triode ; often a Vertical or Horizontal Deflection Oscillator and Amplifier ; the higher power and lower gain version of the 12AX7
[19:33:03] <rue_house> Tom_itx, what point are we proving?
[19:33:13] <Tom_itx> bots can be intelligent
[19:33:22] <archivist> mine has NEVER been that noisy in chan!
[19:33:24] <Tom_itx> or at least factual
[19:33:27] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: you can have the bot PM the requstor, it's starting to just flood the channel
[19:33:38] <katsmeow-afk> tiggr, can you tell us what a 74245 is?
[19:33:40] <Tom_itx> yeah, kat you can let it go now
[19:33:40] <Tiggr> 74245 : Octal Bus Transceiver with Noninverted three-state outputs
[19:33:41] <rue_house> intelligent verses wise
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[19:33:58] <Tom_itx> i just wanted to prove a point
[19:34:11] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: that it can flood the channel when addressed?
[19:34:20] <Tom_itx> with useful information
[19:34:22] <katsmeow-afk> she has settings to pm the answer
[19:34:25] <Tom_itx> instead of just hello
[19:34:41] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: I said WELL BEHAVING bots
[19:34:53] <rue_house> it only answered when asked
[19:35:01] <katsmeow-afk> she has settings to adjust the color of the reply, to talk only in pm, to msg ops about conversations, pretty much everything has permissions, some 160 settings
[19:35:01] <Tom_itx> repeated hello isn't well behaved
[19:35:13] <Jymmm> but still flooded the channel, instead of PM'ing the requestor
[19:35:25] <katsmeow-afk> no one specified how to answer
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[19:36:01] <rue_house> Jymmm, so if you want everyone to know answer, you should have to copy/paste from pm to the channel?
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[19:36:04] <katsmeow-afk> i had to set permissions to allow her to talk at all in here, she defaulted to talking in channel
[19:36:21] * katsmeow-afk is so sorry to have intruded
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[19:38:24] <rue_house> kats bot is in several channels I frequint on a regular basis, its almost never heard from, when it is, its usually somone presenting information to the channel anhow
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[19:46:09] <psha> hi
[19:46:13] <psha> :)
[19:47:52] <mrsunshine> how to balance a pulley that i dont want to take of the shaft of the motor.. :/
[19:48:52] <archivist> take to a man with a balancing machine
[19:48:59] <Tom_itx> i'd put props between 2 support points and lighten the heavy side until it would spin and stop anywhere
[19:49:37] <mrsunshine> archivist, well next time i put it on the shaft it might go on differently :P
[19:49:49] <Tom_itx> balancing something like an engine is a whole other art
[19:50:08] <archivist> mrsunshine, some probably could do it mounted
[19:50:13] <Tom_itx> mrsunshine, you just said you didn't wanna take it off the shaft
[19:50:17] <mrsunshine> the engine isnt rocking, its when i get the pulley on :/
[19:50:30] <archivist> I have some code here to do dynamic balancing
[19:50:59] <mrsunshine> tho, might get better if i figure out why its off, it shouldnt be
[19:51:15] <mrsunshine> its a taperlock and it might be that its to tight on the axle to start with or something
[19:51:32] <archivist> taperlock should be perfect
[19:51:34] <mrsunshine> so it never can pull in the slot even a slight bit, making it go more out the side :P
[19:52:02] <mrsunshine> archivist, im thinking with the slot in it, if its to tight and that cant close even a thousand then will it still work as it should? :)
[19:53:13] <archivist> if the taper is out of its range then yes it wont grip correctly
[19:53:40] <mrsunshine> well the taper goes exactly and i mean exactly on the axel (its a 14mm axel and a 14mm taper)
[19:54:00] <mrsunshine> as when i tight it, the side where the slit is always gets a slight bit higher then the one without a slit on it
[19:57:48] <archivist> by slit I assume key way, shaft or pulley
[19:59:46] <mrsunshine> http://www.hug-technik.com/gif/Taperlock_Buchse.jpg <-- that that goes all the way throught the middle hole :P
[19:59:48] <mrsunshine> straight up
[20:01:07] <archivist> ah that slit, then a faulty taper lock bush possibly or incorrect fitting
[20:01:45] <archivist> burr on the slit edges?
[20:02:05] <mrsunshine> nop, im thinking the motor axle is the theif here .. :P
[20:02:32] <mrsunshine> gonna check the taper with a dial guage later to see if it is as i fear it is (that it needs to close slightly to not be to "wide" on that side :P
[20:03:22] <archivist> I have one on my mill its nice and well balanced
[20:03:38] <archivist> not that make of bush though
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[20:33:44] <mrsunshine> cant find any torque data on it either what is recomended :/
[20:33:54] <mrsunshine> tho i dont have a torque wrench anyhow but still :P
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[21:27:59] <mrsunshine> hmm, might actualy be the motors shaft that is a slight bit krooked :/
[21:28:43] <mrsunshine> took the pulley off and got vibrations in the mill even with it off :/
[21:30:35] <JT-Shop> could be out of balance as well
[21:30:48] <JT-Shop> motor bearings shot etc
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[21:31:13] <mrsunshine> new motor bearings
[21:31:22] <mrsunshine> i have changed them =)
[21:32:02] <mrsunshine> but as the pulley no matter how i do it wobles on the axel i guess it could be crooked :/
[21:33:30] <archivist> hmm bearings damaged could be a sign of it being dropped in the past hence bent shaft
[21:34:26] <mrsunshine> archivist, well they were not damaged in that sense, it was more like rust :P
[21:34:35] <mrsunshine> the lower bearing was just a pile of rust
[21:35:02] <mrsunshine> nothing else in it was rusty tho so it was concentrated to that bearing for some reason =)
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[21:46:26] <mrsunshine> i wonder how to check if the shaft is straight or not :P
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[21:46:40] <atmega328> look at it, really closely.
[21:49:09] <seb_kuzminsky> mrsunshine: spin the shaft by hand while probing it with a dti
[21:49:14] <cradek> mrsunshine: a very simple test is to roll it on a surface plate
[21:49:51] <cradek> I've adequately unbent pushrods that way
[21:50:25] <mrsunshine> roll it on a surface plate ?
[21:51:18] <archivist> place between centres and use a dti also
[21:51:31] <cradek> I sense you have a question, but I can't tell what it is by reading the words preceding the ?
[21:51:39] <JT-Shop> or a paper clip, a good light and your eye
[21:52:13] <cradek> how would you use a paper clip?
[21:52:31] <archivist> cradek, its in a motor so how would he roll it, I think
[21:52:41] <JT-Shop> put the end so it just does not touch and turn the shaft slow and look at the gap
[21:52:51] <cradek> ah
[21:52:53] <JT-Shop> touch the side of the shaft
[21:53:03] <cradek> archivist: my fault for not reading back
[21:53:05] <JT-Shop> you can see down very small that way
[21:53:22] <archivist> spin and slow touch and listen for intermittent contact
[21:54:39] <archivist> was it a fight to change the new bearing :) probable cause
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[21:56:11] <mrsunshine> no problem to change the bearings, everything went very smoothly =)
[21:56:19] <mrsunshine> seb_kuzminsky, question .. tdi ? :)
[21:56:35] <seb_kuzminsky> dti - dial test indicator
[21:57:12] <Tom_itx> there are a dozen ways to check it, the point is to check it
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[22:04:43] <mrsunshine> i guess thats one way to do it, put weld on it and turn it down to dimension again ;P
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[22:07:38] <mrsunshine> but there shouldnt be need to imo
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[23:14:58] <UnderSampled> Hello
[23:15:42] <UnderSampled> my latency measured 200,000
[23:15:52] <UnderSampled> how can I decrease that?
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[23:17:39] <seb_kuzminsky> UnderSampled: there are some things you can try, but it may be that your computer just has bad latency (many do)
[23:17:49] <seb_kuzminsky> look here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting#RTAI_Latency_test
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[23:18:04] <seb_kuzminsky> and here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?FixingSMIIssues
[23:18:04] <archivist> often, change the video driver you are using, or change video card so you dont use onboard vid
[23:18:09] <seb_kuzminsky> and good luck!
[23:18:37] <UnderSampled> this is on a desktop
[23:18:55] <UnderSampled> with an old agp nvidia graphics card
[23:19:13] <UnderSampled> running the default ubuntu installation's video drivers
[23:19:44] <UnderSampled> could removing any hardware help?
[23:19:54] <seb_kuzminsky> nvidia may be the problem, the fix is described in the first link i sent you
[23:20:24] <UnderSampled> interesting
[23:20:29] <UnderSampled> any reason why?
[23:20:39] <UnderSampled> your link doesn't say much
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[23:21:36] <seb_kuzminsky> the nvidia driver disables interrupts for long periods of time, which means the rtai kernel can't switch tasks, which means latency sucks
[23:21:54] <UnderSampled> i'm not using the nvida driver
[23:22:22] <UnderSampled> unless ubuntu installs it now automatically
[23:22:35] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont know what's default
[23:22:49] <seb_kuzminsky> all the collected wisdom on fixing latency issues is in the docs i linked you
[23:23:13] <PCW> Even the open source nvidia driver sucks (in my limited experience)
[23:23:37] <seb_kuzminsky> from that url: "Avoid anything nvidia."
[23:23:46] * seb_kuzminsky shrugs
[23:24:05] <UnderSampled> so i should switch to may even older trident pci video card?
[23:24:23] <seb_kuzminsky> you could try
[23:24:42] <seb_kuzminsky> or you could try some of the other suggestions there
[23:24:53] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe you'll get lucky and one of them will fix the issue
[23:27:42] <archivist> you can test bios issues with http://biosbits.org/
[23:28:44] <UnderSampled> I have an amd in this box
[23:29:05] <danimal_garage> PCW, is a 5i20, 7i37, and 7i33 the best way to go for a basic servo 4 axis mill with no spindle control?
[23:29:44] <danimal_garage> someone i know is looking to dump the mach 3 system on his mill for emc
[23:29:46] <UnderSampled> archivist: specifically, an Amd Athalon Thunderbird 1200MHz
[23:30:10] <seb_kuzminsky> danimal_garage: that's exactly what i'm using on my bridgeport, it works great
[23:30:30] <archivist> I run a cnc on a slower 800meg athlon
[23:31:07] <seb_kuzminsky> oh wait, i'm using a 5i22 now because i added another 7i37 for the control panel
[23:31:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i *was* using the setup you described, for about a year
[23:31:32] <danimal_garage> seb_kuzminsky, i have the same setup plus a 7i42 on both my mill and lathe, but it's been a while since i researched any of it
[23:31:55] <danimal_garage> i didnt know if it's old news now, and something better is out there
[23:31:58] <UnderSampled> how do I measure driver timings?
[23:33:25] <seb_kuzminsky> UnderSampled: I don't know of a way to measure latency of individual drivers
[23:33:37] <seb_kuzminsky> short of measuring the system latency with and without those drivers
[23:36:18] <UnderSampled> seb_kuzminsky: I'm referring to section 6.4 in the getting started guide
[23:36:33] <UnderSampled> my driver isn't on the list on the wiki
[23:36:48] <UnderSampled> and I don't see any figures like those in the manual
[23:37:13] <PCW> danimal_garage, Yes thats the most common configuration people use
[23:37:29] <danimal_garage> ok cool
[23:37:50] <danimal_garage> it's working fine for me!
[23:38:10] <seb_kuzminsky> UnderSampled: oh, you're talking about something different now, i see
[23:38:15] <danimal_garage> i scored an old cnc control pannel today with a bunch of nice buttons ans switches on it
[23:38:18] <UnderSampled> yeah
[23:38:23] <seb_kuzminsky> you're asking about the timing characteristics for your stepper amplifiers
[23:38:23] <UnderSampled> sorry
[23:38:26] <UnderSampled> :)
[23:38:30] <danimal_garage> i might cut it down and use it for the lathe
[23:38:37] <seb_kuzminsky> that info comes from the manufacturer of the stepper amps
[23:38:42] <danimal_garage> i think i can sqeeze my monitor in there
[23:39:07] <seb_kuzminsky> danimal_garage: just bend it if it doesn't fit
[23:39:23] <danimal_garage> lol
[23:39:41] <archivist> weld a go faster bump onto the case to make room
[23:39:53] <danimal_garage> a hood scoop?
[23:40:24] <archivist> yes add cooling too
[23:40:54] <danimal_garage> the pannel had probably a 12" crt in it, i have a 15" and 17"lcd i can use
[23:41:15] <danimal_garage> i think i can make it work
[23:41:34] <seb_kuzminsky> UnderSampled: here's a picture how what those numbers mean: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/hal_rtcomps.html#fig:StepDir-timing
[23:42:06] <UnderSampled> ah
[23:42:33] <UnderSampled> so, for me I'd look at the TB6560 IC's manual?
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[23:43:05] <Lbaroudi> hi there
[23:43:33] <seb_kuzminsky> UnderSampled: i dont know what stepper amps you have, but those timings are a feature of the amps
[23:43:44] <archivist> UnderSampled, yes
[23:44:35] <UnderSampled> archivist: why isn't the tb6560 on the list?
[23:44:46] <archivist> as long as your pulses are longer than the chip minimum you should be ok
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[23:45:19] <seb_kuzminsky> UnderSampled: because no one has added them yet - you get the honor!
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[23:45:32] <Lbaroudi> no i'v got the emc on ubunto 10 ready and having my driver and motors connected away from my cnc how to test everything working fine?
[23:46:23] <archivist> UnderSampled, which list....a volunteer needs a round tuit and the information to update and add
[23:46:57] <UnderSampled> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing
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[23:50:14] <seb_kuzminsky> Lbaroudi: are you using the parallel port to talk to your machine, or some fancy interface hardware like mesa?
[23:50:15] <Lbaroudi> I am using cnc4pc driversnd power any one who know bout it and the EMC2 ???
[23:51:39] <Lbaroudi> yes kuzminsky its parallel port driver is breakout board is c11g
[23:52:38] <seb_kuzminsky> i think you should start by running stepconf
[23:52:50] <seb_kuzminsky> it will walk you through configuring emc2 for your machine
[23:53:00] <seb_kuzminsky> i've never used it so i can't help much
[23:53:15] <Lbaroudi> thanks alot
[23:54:03] <Lbaroudi> should i connect it to 5 volts or should i connect to external 5v ?
[23:54:27] <seb_kuzminsky> your breakout board? i have no idea
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[23:55:30] <Lbaroudi> i mean it would take 5v from lpt port or it need external power ? in general
[23:56:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont know, i've never used the c11g breakout board
[23:56:47] <seb_kuzminsky> it'll probably say in the manual
[23:56:59] <seb_kuzminsky> i think the parport can't source much power, but i dont know how much you need
[23:59:03] <Lbaroudi> its not clear in the manual
[23:59:54] <seb_kuzminsky> it's not clear in my mind either ;-)