#emc | Logs for 2011-02-03

[00:00:08] <Valen> because everybody knows how big those are
[00:00:24] <Tom_itx> you bet i do
[00:00:25] <Tom_itx> :D
[00:00:36] <JT-Shop> I have some ER11 holders for my Disovery 308
[00:00:49] <JT-Shop> tiny little things
[00:03:07] <andypugh> I can't even find a definition for 15-taper. Until a few minutes ago I thought the smallest was 25
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[00:12:22] <andypugh> Night all
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[00:12:29] <JT-Shop> SolidWorks is such a pig 2109 MB download but it "just works" so I can't do without it... time left > forever to download
[00:12:42] <JT-Shop> goodnight
[00:13:26] <Tom_itx> what ver?
[00:13:33] <JT-Shop> 2011
[00:14:01] <Tom_itx> didn't know you could dl it
[00:14:27] <JT-Shop> yea, but you have to have a license to get that far :)
[00:15:07] <JT-Shop> I pay $1200 or so per year to stay current
[00:15:23] <Tom_itx> yeah
[00:15:29] <Tom_itx> is it worth it?
[00:15:38] <Tom_itx> i suppose if you use it daily it is
[00:16:01] <JT-Shop> yes it is if you design equipment for a living
[00:16:03] <Tom_itx> i have 04 or some old ver
[00:16:32] <JT-Shop> it has changed quite a lot since then... much more productive to use
[00:16:57] <Tom_itx> we never did much design, generally got iges files or paper drawings
[00:17:18] <Tom_itx> and cleaned em up in smartcam
[00:18:04] <Tom_itx> the tools today are probably more productive than that was
[00:18:19] <JT-Shop> it's amazing how crappy drawings can be if the engineer does not have to make the part too
[00:18:27] <Tom_itx> yup
[00:18:36] <Tom_itx> and stupid references for dimensions
[00:19:23] <JT-Shop> in my case I design and make the parts too :)
[00:19:47] <Tom_itx> what type of stuff do you make?
[00:20:04] <JT-Shop> automatic assembly machines
[00:20:15] <Tom_itx> ahh, you told me that
[00:20:24] <Tom_itx> i didn't know you built them too
[00:20:45] <JT-Shop> making one right now to grind the compression release tab on the cam for a lawn mower engine
[00:20:56] <Tom_itx> sounds like a fun job
[00:21:10] <JT-Shop> it is usually
[00:21:46] <Tom_itx> most of what we did was always due before we got the job so it was always under a tight deadline to get it done
[00:22:26] <JT-Shop> we get stuff like that from time to time but ignore the deadline unless they cry a lot and pay more
[00:25:39] <JT-Shop> failure to plan on your part does not make an emergency on my part is my favorite saying
[00:25:57] <Valen> does if they pay enough ;->
[00:26:06] <Tom_itx> you keep em happy and they keep sending you work
[00:26:21] <JT-Shop> yea, that is a different story
[00:26:39] <JT-Shop> we keep them happy but don't let them walk all over us either
[00:26:49] <Tom_itx> they knew what they wanted wasn't what they were gonna get
[00:27:38] <JT-Shop> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Shop%20Addition/P1010081.jpg
[00:28:30] <Tom_itx> i figured you'd have that sheeted by now
[00:28:32] <JT-Shop> we usually try and give them a better machine than they thought possible and that seems to keep us busy all the time
[00:28:45] <JT-Shop> it rained for 24 hours LOL
[00:29:04] <JT-Shop> I had a couple of hours this evening to put that up
[00:29:15] <Tom_itx> 9' walls?
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[00:29:29] <JT-Shop> 10'5"
[00:29:35] <Tom_itx> k
[00:29:40] <JT-Shop> 9' door
[00:29:44] <Tom_itx> i knew it wasn't 8
[00:29:48] <JT-Shop> 10' x 9'
[00:29:49] <Valen> nice wide door too?
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[00:30:45] <JT-Shop> I used 10' 2x6's for the studs so the wall is 10' plus 3 2x's
[00:31:21] <Tom_itx> ahh there it is
[00:31:38] <Tom_L> http://www.clearwateren.com/
[00:31:51] <Tom_itx> that was my friends shop before he retired and sold it
[00:31:54] <Tom_itx> 50k sq ft
[00:31:58] <Tom_itx> iirc
[00:32:07] <JT-Shop> cool
[00:32:14] <Tom_L> http://www.clearwateren.com/gallery.php
[00:32:26] <Tom_itx> i think i programmed a few of those
[00:32:31] <JT-Shop> I have 1000 sq ft now lol
[00:32:41] <Tom_itx> he started in a 24 x 24 garage
[00:33:21] <Tom_itx> that 3rd one over in the ti/steel gallery was the trailing link we did
[00:33:26] <JT-Shop> aerospace = pockets, pockets, pockets
[00:33:32] <Tom_itx> yup
[00:33:35] <Tom_itx> and nothing flat
[00:34:03] <Tom_itx> that link is drilled from both ends too
[00:34:11] <Tom_itx> 3" drill iirc
[00:34:23] <Tom_itx> or thereabouts
[00:34:31] <JT-Shop> fixturing must have been fun
[00:34:43] <Tom_itx> several positions
[00:34:46] <Tom_itx> 3 i think
[00:34:53] <Tom_itx> it was done on a 3 axis
[00:36:07] <Tom_itx> i haven't met the new owners
[00:36:44] <Tom_itx> i wired most of those machines for data
[00:37:37] <JT-Shop> I need to add a network connection to my BP Discovery
[00:40:33] <Tom_itx> these were just serial
[00:40:51] <Tom_itx> a few had network capability but he didn't use it
[00:42:35] <JT-Shop> I'd like to be able to open a file on this computer from the Discovery instead of using a floppy to transfer files
[00:43:16] <Tom_itx> does emc let you dnc?
[00:43:34] <Tom_itx> we did that on a couple machines
[00:43:48] <JT-Shop> I don't know, but I don't think that is needed with EMC
[00:43:53] <Tom_itx> not alot of memory and when you're cutting surfaces it eats alot of code
[00:44:05] <Tom_itx> probably not
[00:45:16] <JT-Shop> chow time here
[00:45:27] <Tom_itx> what timezone?
[00:45:30] <Tom_itx> i'm cst
[00:45:33] <JT-Shop> Jambalaya... mmm
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[00:45:42] <JT-Shop> swamp east Missouri here
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[00:47:52] * JT-Shop will listen to Camp Grenada by Tom Lehrer first
[00:49:03] <L84Supper> JT-Shop: did you get pummeled with snow today as well?
[00:49:22] <JT-Shop> no it missed us
[00:49:36] <L84Supper> only 22" here
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[00:51:27] <JT-Shop> time to get your shovel out :)
[00:52:34] <L84Supper> heh... we have a backhoe and bulldozer out in the lot now, drifts were ~4-5'
[00:53:15] <JT-Shop> I had to use the salamander to warm up my backhoe today to get it started :)
[00:53:28] <Valen> salamander?
[00:53:31] <JT-Shop> JD 310A don't like cold weather
[00:53:39] <JT-Shop> bullet heater
[00:54:04] <JT-Shop> tube thingy that uses kerosene to heat with
[00:54:21] <Tom_L> aka space heater
[00:54:21] <Valen> ahh
[00:54:48] <JT-Shop> about 3' long and 1' in diameter with a blower
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[00:55:45] <JT-Shop> stick it under the oil pan and block the sides off as best as you can and warm up the crankcase and the old hoe will start every time
[00:56:04] <JT-Shop> oh, I hear the dinner bell guys
[00:56:10] <JT-Shop> talk to you later
[00:56:15] <Tom_L> l8r
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[01:34:09] <elmo40> if only I had a few grand lying around... R8 is an upgrade for me ;) http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-equipment-ProStar-Milling-Machine-W0QQAdIdZ253107039
[01:34:36] <elmo40> 575V isn't, though... would have to put a 'normal' motor in it ;)
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[08:46:50] <mrsunshine> think im gonna make a lost foam patter then so fenn gets happy =)
[08:46:59] <mrsunshine> sucks that its raining some outside today :(
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[08:51:59] <mrsunshine> but what to use to glue it together
[08:52:09] <mrsunshine> that doesnt leave uggly marks and just goes poof like the rest of it :P
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[09:58:02] <mrsun> hit a chicken and the egg snatch ..
[09:58:05] <mrsun> orhwatever its called :P
[09:58:22] <mrsun> making a mount for a new motor on the mill, but i want to facemill the mount :P
[09:58:27] <mrsun> and its my only mill :P
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[11:16:19] <jthornton> get out your files then
[11:17:16] <fenn> mrsun: i use rubber cement to glue foam together
[11:21:09] <jthornton> I found wood glue (the ordinary yellow kind) holds foam very well
[11:24:11] <archivist> spacers and kludges for temporary mount, machine proper mount, fit, rinse repeat till finished
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[11:28:23] <mk0> rubber cement what is this?
[11:28:56] <archivist> it cements rubber
[11:29:46] <mk0> does it dissolve foam?
[11:30:47] <mk0> wiki says it has acetone. or is there any definite rubber cement? link maybe
[11:54:12] <fenn> no it should have no acetone as that would dissolve the foam. rubber cements i have used all had hexane or heptane as the solvent
[11:54:47] <fenn> usually it comes in a small can with a brush built into the lid
[11:55:25] <fenn> http://www.staples.com/Elmers-Rubber-Cement/product_473595
[11:58:54] <fenn> mmm cha thai where have you been all my life
[12:17:49] <mk0> is it water-resistant?
[12:18:03] <mrsun> used a small dot of epoxy now
[12:18:04] <mrsun> worked fine
[12:18:11] <mrsun> but maybe not that healthy :P
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[15:06:20] <mrsun> aw metal blowout and i guess not hot enough as it didnt join fully at the end of the cast :/
[15:06:36] <mrsun> (not steam explosion just to little sand over the pattern i think
[15:06:49] <mrsun> the preasure became to great and it broke the ceramic coating and took another way
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[15:13:15] <mrsun> but other then that the piece looks great, i guess just a bit higher temp and it would be fine =)
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[15:24:03] <JT-Work> no photos?
[15:24:33] <mrsun> JT-Work, i suck at taking photos :P
[15:24:58] <mrsun> and i didnt repour the ingots (was new scrap metal, from what i hear its good to cast ingots first then remelt them to get rid of some of the gases and stuff)
[15:30:14] <mrsun> and need to make other pouring tongs ... the one i have is for lifting it out of the furnace so it kinda becomes a very awkward (how the heck do you spell it?) pouring angle
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[15:49:47] <fenn> absorbed hydrogen (what you get from not using ingots) makes tiny bubbles, around 1mm
[15:50:26] <fenn> larger bubbles would be due to foam gases or water in the sand
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[15:51:45] <fenn> you should be using a tall sprue to increase pressure, i usually use a steel can to raise the sprue height and make a pouring funnel
[15:52:02] <fenn> coconut milk can or something
[15:52:30] <fenn> rounded edges could be from not enough pressure
[15:52:48] <skunkworks> fenn: are you still doing a lot of casting?
[15:53:12] <fenn> i'm buying components to build an electric furnace, haven't done any casting for a few years
[15:53:34] <fenn> hemming and hawing over whether i really need a thermocouple
[15:54:06] <fenn> (hint: the answer is no)
[15:54:13] <skunkworks> heh
[15:54:29] <fenn> but i could use the furnace for other stuff, like annealing and other heat treating
[15:54:39] <skunkworks> when grandfather died - dad got most of his casting equipment... great - another project ;)
[15:54:57] <fenn> casting is super useful if you're poor
[15:55:17] <fenn> need a big chunk of metal, no problem go get some garbage!
[15:55:33] <skunkworks> fenn: did you see http://sokolik.com/images/mill/mill.JPG
[15:55:58] <fenn> yeah, nice. have you ever used them?
[15:56:04] <skunkworks> no
[15:57:34] <skunkworks> http://sokolik.com/images/shaper/shapermillfront.JPG
[15:57:47] <skunkworks> http://sokolik.com/images/shaper/shaperside.JPG
[15:57:59] <skunkworks> we have larger versions of those things we use.. ;)
[15:59:08] <mrsun> fenn, dont think the preasure was the issue as it blew out the sand :P
[15:59:21] <fenn> oh i bet you don't have a shaper
[15:59:27] <mrsun> shaper?
[15:59:34] <fenn> (to skunkworks)
[15:59:39] <mrsun> ahh :P
[15:59:44] <fenn> mrsun: you just need more sand too
[16:00:02] <mrsun> wtf is a shaper used for anyways? :)
[16:00:21] <fenn> umm. shaping? :P
[16:00:30] <mrsun> but ...
[16:00:35] <mrsun> it just goes out and in ? :P
[16:00:36] <skunkworks> fenn: http://www.electronicsam.com/images/shaper.JPG
[16:01:04] <fenn> you can make gears, dovetails, flat things, square things, oddly shaped holes, ...
[16:01:26] <fenn> skunkworks: i stand corrected.
[16:02:10] <fenn> mrsun: it has auto feed, sometimes auto feed on the compound too
[16:02:40] <mrsun> but it feels so useless :P
[16:03:03] <fenn> well some day we'll all have atom lasers and pocket universes
[16:03:13] <skunkworks> neat!
[16:03:15] <skunkworks> :)
[16:04:22] <fenn> http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Tech/index.html
[16:05:12] <fenn> mrsun: i'm reminded of the scene in starship troopers where the new recruit is asking why they have to learn hand to hand combat in an age of button-pushing nuclear war
[16:05:32] <atmega> what was the answer?
[16:06:03] <fenn> the wise old sergeant throws his knife across the parade ground, neatly slicing off the cadet's finger. "for when you don't have a finger to push the button with!"
[16:06:30] <mrsun> fenn, sure for facing stuff but, facemills? :P
[16:06:37] <fenn> the moral of this story is, don't stick your hand in the machinery
[16:07:51] <atmega> I thought it was "don't question the sargeant"
[16:08:13] <fenn> also there are lots of shapes you can't mill, and materials you can't edm
[16:08:48] <atmega> isn't that kind of a horizontal mill?
[16:09:07] <fenn> a shaper? no it's a linear cutting tool
[16:09:57] <fenn> sort of like a single tooth broach
[16:10:09] <fenn> very similar to a lathe bit
[16:10:26] <atmega> oh, that part doesn't rotate?
[16:10:40] <fenn> no it just goes back and forth
[16:10:48] <mrsun> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKbJedrL4Vg&feature=related
[16:11:06] <mrsun> but sure it could have its uses i guess
[16:11:17] <mrsun> but pretty big machine to take up space just to have a few uses ;P
[16:13:37] <fenn> apparently not an issue in wisconsin
[16:13:54] <atmega> I've heard of Wisconsin
[16:14:05] <atmega> it's not on my list of places to visit though.
[16:14:20] <skunkworks> heh
[16:15:15] <atmega> interesting machine
[16:15:55] <mrsun> but looks like a very stable machine also so i guess for facing it would be great :P
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[16:23:40] <IchGuckLive> Hi all in the deep snowd USA
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[16:31:45] <skunkworks> fenn: http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/adaptfinal2.JPG and http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/adaptfinal.JPG is how we got the servo into the y axis. it is actually driving a gear and that is the 'coupling' (we used one of the extra gears as a broach)
[16:32:34] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/adapt-a-broach.JPG
[16:33:37] <skunkworks> all mounted http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yassembly.JPG
[16:35:57] <skunkworks> used to look like http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/hyservo.JPG
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[16:39:11] <e-jones> all: hi, anybody tested mac mini with linuxcnc livecd?
[16:41:33] <IchGuckLive> skunkworks: how many volts does the servo have
[16:44:28] <skunkworks> I think we are running them at about 180ish volts.
[16:44:45] <skunkworks> dc
[16:45:34] <IchGuckLive> thanks
[16:50:16] <fenn> are those spot welds? on a 2 inch shaft?
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[16:53:10] <skunkworks> fenn: we drilled some holes in the hub and filled them with welds.
[16:55:45] <skunkworks> the flex plate was made from a circle saw blade
[16:59:02] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/flexplate.jpg
[17:00:57] <fenn> made on your other cnc mill of course
[17:01:38] <skunkworks> acutally - a rotory head.. Our router is down when it got struck by lightning
[17:02:25] <fenn> weird, never heard of rotary head before
[17:02:54] <IchGuckLive> skunkworks: why are there 2 blades !
[17:03:41] <skunkworks> we thought we might need 2 - but we used one.. So we have one extra
[17:04:40] <skunkworks> fen
[17:04:45] <skunkworks> heh
[17:04:49] <skunkworks> fenn: http://www.lathes.co.uk/bridgeport/page25.html
[17:04:49] <skunkworks> (that is what we have)
[17:04:57] <skunkworks> (taht is not ours)
[17:14:15] <IchGuckLive> skunkworks: does this work with steam ?? O.o
[17:15:55] <skunkworks> ?
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[17:28:05] <IchGuckLive> skunkworks: the old mashine
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[17:58:33] <danimal_garage> morning
[18:04:31] <pcw_home> in some longitudes...
[18:07:39] <pcw_home> danimal_garage: are you running your servos in torque mode?
[18:08:15] <tom3p> true? in a 5i20 config for 3 servo axis there are unused gpio pins, but...
[18:08:17] <tom3p> the configs supplied are meant for 7i30/7i33 environment, so the unused gpio on P2 is not easily available
[18:09:30] <pcw_home> Yes, thats true for a normal servo config but easily changed
[18:11:20] <tom3p> pcw_home, thx, is there an example of the change?
[18:11:20] <tom3p> meanwhile i'll look for a mesa daughter card with more outputs than 8 :)
[18:12:38] <pcw_home> 7I64 (and the cheaper up coming 7I66, 7I71)
[18:13:49] <tom3p> thx reading data sheet now
[18:14:10] <tom3p> "Sorry, that data sheet is not available yet" :)
[18:14:21] <skunkworks> tom3p: thought about opto22 for i/o?
[18:14:49] <pcw_home> To change a pinout I edit the pinout file and re-compile the FPGA bitfile (normally about a 10 minute job)
[18:14:50] <pcw_home> (7I64 manual is available)
[18:15:03] <tom3p> yeah, but still considering the low level, if the driver gives me 16in & 8 out on each cable, i'm stuck
[18:15:18] <tom3p> pcw_home, thx got the manual now
[18:15:56] <skunkworks> I have the 50 pin plug -> opto22 board that allows me to have any combo of i/o
[18:17:01] <tom3p> ? any dics that i can read
[18:17:11] <tom3p> docs ( hickery )
[18:17:56] <skunkworks> Ih have one setup as 13 outs and 11 ins.
[18:18:09] <skunkworks> umm - I don't know of any.
[18:18:15] <tom3p> driven off a 5i20?
[18:18:19] <skunkworks> yes
[18:18:37] <tom3p> and what driver do you load & what firmware?
[18:18:46] <skunkworks> the 24 port opto22 boards that have the 50 pin header on it plug directly into the mesa card.
[18:19:27] <pcw_home> A 7I64 gives you 24 2A outputs and 24 inputs using 2 FPGA pins
[18:19:29] <pcw_home> a 7I66-8 gives you 8 2A outputs and 16 inputs using 2 FPGA pins
[18:19:31] <pcw_home> a 7I66-24 gives you 24 2A outputs using 2 FPGA pins
[18:19:32] <pcw_home> a 7I71 gives you 48 350 mA outputs usung 2 FPGA pins
[18:19:33] <skunkworks> I am using the normal 4 and 6 axis ones. (7i33 and whatever the 6 axis board is)
[18:19:33] <pcw_home> the opto 22s use any HostMot2 firmware (they just use GPIO)
[18:19:52] <skunkworks> yes
[18:20:25] <skunkworks> in the hal file I pick which is in and out.
[18:20:48] <skunkworks> pcw_home: that is awesome.
[18:21:02] <tom3p> ok, so you get pins with in in-not and out, and the hal defines the dir/sense
[18:21:45] <tom3p> pcw_home, thx that 7i71 sounds great, it uses 2 of the 3 cables from 5i20?
[18:22:24] <skunkworks> I read it as 2 pins...
[18:22:29] <skunkworks> not 2 plugs
[18:22:30] <pcw_home> should be awsome (but I have hope, Andys driver works fine on the 8I20/7I64 and the new cards are just 7I64 clone)
[18:22:31] <pcw_home> no I can drive up to 12 7I71s from one cable
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[18:23:11] <tom3p> ! multiplexed?
[18:23:21] <skunkworks> the mesa stuff is magical ;)
[18:23:34] <pcw_home> No Isolated RS-422 serial
[18:23:49] <tom3p> ah, serial
[18:24:04] <pcw_home> (well isolated at 7I71 end)
[18:24:29] <Jymmm> Fruit Loops!
[18:24:30] <tom3p> hokay, lots to think of , thx
[18:24:44] <pcw_home> normally 2.5 MBaud so 10 KHz update rates are possible
[18:28:45] <tom3p> hah! my old non-emc plc bit banging of the i/o was 40mS updates, like 25hZ
[18:31:30] <pcw_home> We use the same system for the 8I20 (and upcoming) torque mode drives so we need fast update rates
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[18:36:06] <danimal_garage> pcw_home: yes, torque mode
[18:36:29] <danimal_garage> velocity mode doesnt work well with these drives, at least it doesnt seem like it
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[18:44:53] <tom3p> skunkworks, true? you use Opto22, and dont need any extra isolation, just a cable from 5i20 to Opto22 rack?
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[18:53:16] <pcw_home> I was wondering if it would be useful with torque mode drives to keep track of the total work used in a job so that tool sharpness/way oiling could be monitored
[18:53:17] <pcw_home> (I guess the accumulated spindle load would be better for tool diagnostic info)
[18:54:22] <danimal_garage> hmm interesting idea
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[19:09:10] <archivist> if load is too low at the beginning of a cycle the tool end is missing
[19:11:09] <danimal_garage> too low?
[19:11:13] <Tom_itx> too late to fix it then
[19:11:31] <danimal_garage> The end of my tool is usually missing if the load is too high :)
[19:14:05] <archivist> well if a drill is snapped you have a perion knowing the load is lower than normal so you never need to hit the stub against the work
[19:14:17] <archivist> period
[19:20:37] <danimal_garage> gotcha
[19:21:35] <archivist> so any checking system needs an upper and lower bounds
[19:27:28] <danimal_garage> well i've been running the machine all day and the servos and drives are still nice and cool. i guess that's a good thing
[19:28:04] <danimal_garage> do you guys think i'll notice any change in my power bill with the servos over the steppers?
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[19:32:59] <archivist> depends on your hours per day use, but I would expect a reduction
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[19:38:24] <JT-Work> you think servos are more efficient than steppers?
[19:38:58] <tom3p> the steppers that are hot at idle are wasting energy
[19:39:02] <PCW> Yeah step motors idle at full current, servos idle at 0 current
[19:40:13] <archivist> or another way of putting it you only provide current for the torque you need, not a static holding above any need
[19:40:26] <JT-Work> I see
[19:41:00] <JT-Work> I guess drives that throttle back when idle help to reduce wasted power in a stepper
[19:41:39] <JT-Work> but steppers run at "full power" all the time... makes sense
[19:45:16] <danimal_garage> yea, my steppers were always warm. and i had to run them at 100% holding current or it lost step when milling with the other axis. These servos are at the temperature of the shop (low 60's f), and i've been running the mill for a few hours
[19:45:32] <danimal_garage> i figured heat is wasted energy
[19:46:34] <JT-Work> unless your cold then you can snuggle up to the steppers :)
[19:46:53] <tom3p> if you never have idle time ;) then its a matter of which system does same W work for how many J joules
[19:49:24] <JT-Work> like mold work where all axis are always moving
[19:50:09] <tom3p> yeh I bet a trunnion stepper is a room heater
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[20:43:52] <L84Supper> http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/08/jet-engines-on-trucks-for-fun-and.html super snow blowers
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[22:52:16] <Valen> http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7500 might be more interesting than the beagle board
[22:52:22] <Valen> has onboard FPGA
[22:52:50] <Valen> bit light on ram but if it were only running the non GUI side of things
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[23:36:34] <Emcrules_Laptop> jthornton, You around?
[23:45:04] <JT-Shop> for a bit
[23:45:41] <Emcrules_Laptop> Your using a pokeys55 correct?
[23:46:34] <JT-Shop> I hooked one up and tested it but have not had the time to install it in the lathe yet :/
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[23:47:19] <Emcrules_Laptop> What comp did you use hal_input or HID_comp
[23:50:03] <JT-Shop> I would guess hal input
[23:51:07] <Emcrules_Laptop> Thanks. How well did it work in you opinion. I just got one in the mail and plan to test out this weekend.
[23:52:56] <JT-Shop> I thought it worked well enough to order 4 pots and knobs for it :)
[23:53:19] <JT-Shop> I'll try and dig up the info I have on it in the morning
[23:53:57] <Emcrules_Laptop> Cool Im going to try hooking up keypad membranes. Talk to you later
[23:54:20] <JT-Shop> ok, I didn't try that, I just tried pots and pushbuttons
[23:54:37] <JT-Shop> be interesting to see how the keypad works
[23:54:47] * JT-Shop heads inside to cook dinner
[23:54:53] <Emcrules_Laptop> Yeah I think it might take some work
[23:55:25] <JT-Shop> ok talk to you later
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