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[01:04:49] <elmo40> good price? http://qurl.org/o61
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[05:50:09] <L84Supper> elmo40: I don't think Heidenhain has a rotary encoder for under $100
[05:56:00] <Jymmm> What a fucked up disease... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1569156/Tree-man-who-grew-roots-may-be-cured.html
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[09:05:30] <Howard> Can anyone assist me with a couple of line of code in hal ?
[09:10:04] <micges_work> go on
[09:10:24] <micges_work> use pastebin.com for >3 lines
[09:15:25] <Howard> I wish to increment the A axis in a while loop to move to a position and break the loop when a detector locate the position.
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[09:23:02] <grandrew_> Hi
[09:23:03] <the_wench> hello grandrew_, you have a question?
[09:23:26] <grandrew_> Yes
[09:25:06] <grandrew_> I've configured the hal to run .write command in a separate thread that runs 3 times faster than base-thread. But write command seems to somehow fire with non-zero arguments in the cycles that base-thread should definitely be sleeping
[09:26:32] <grandrew_> The question is,how can that be :-)
[09:27:10] <grandrew_> I guess that input ports do not get zeroed in time (sometimes?)
[09:28:22] <grandrew_> But since the cnc produces errors, that means that base-thread is actually calling write() not in time :-\ and these 'misses' are real commands that are not being executed
[09:28:28] <micges_work> base thread should be the fastest thread
[09:28:47] <grandrew_> Why should?
[09:29:03] <micges_work> design
[09:29:15] <micges_work> do you use base thread ?
[09:29:27] <grandrew_> And absolutely no way to have something in HAL running faster?
[09:29:59] <micges_work> it would be easier if you pastebin.com your hal/ini files
[09:30:00] <grandrew_> I use base thread for everything except for .write()
[09:30:54] <grandrew_> Ok 1 sec
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[09:32:47] <grandrew_> http://pastebin.com/Fs5VxBk7
[09:33:26] <grandrew_> That is .hal, .ini is defaukt created by stepconf
[09:33:53] <grandrew_> Hmm.. except for the max velocities
[09:33:58] <grandrew_> But
[09:34:41] <grandrew_> that should not matter anyways since the problem is that .write is firing unexpectedly often
[09:35:11] <micges_work> why this is so complex?
[09:35:35] <micges_work> base thread is for generating pulses so it is usually fastest
[09:35:55] <micges_work> servo thread is for anything else and it is usually 1ms period
[09:36:27] <psha> archivist: whoa, you are back again! :)
[09:36:33] <archivist> :)
[09:37:00] <micges_work> if you want something faster you can use threads module to create threads with different speed but same or multiply of speed of base thread
[09:37:08] <psha> micges_work: it's for multiplexing
[09:37:20] <psha> logger[psha]: .
[09:38:03] <psha> micges_work: http://psha.org.ru/irc/%23emc/2011-01-20.html#13:48:28
[09:38:46] <micges_work> unfortunately I don't have time now, I just taked a quick look into hal
[09:39:01] <micges_work> bbl
[09:39:05] <psha> so just believe that 3 threads are needed :)
[09:39:38] <micges_work> I'll look at log later, be patience
[09:40:56] <grandrew_> ok
[09:42:48] <psha> grandrew_: if stepgen is living in base thread (not in fast thread) then fast thread get same value for 3 rounds
[09:43:03] <psha> that's why we were telling you to make another multiplexing comp
[09:43:56] <grandrew_> After a few experiments I've noticed that .write() is [usually?] called with non-zero data_out's only once it gets feeded by base-thread (the thread1 I guess?) So I made a storege to hold current command for 2 more steps and execute them sequentially as I want
[09:45:12] <grandrew_> the problem now is that sometimes .write() is still being called with non-zero args in the time that it should not be called (the multiplexer is still processing previous command)
[09:46:14] <psha> grandrew_: why you don't want to do it in comp?
[09:46:34] <grandrew_> ok now I am beginning to want :-)
[09:46:57] <psha> i'm not machinist, i'm programmer :)
[09:47:22] <psha> so i may be wrong about gcode and schematics but usually my opinion on programming side is not very dumb :)
[09:48:34] <grandrew_> I just wanted to beleive I will not run into bugs and concurrency issues at least in the realtime mode :-\
[09:48:49] <psha> no, you won't
[09:49:22] <psha> as SWPadnos mentioned yesterday if you respect rules (no delays, store state between invokations) you'll be fine
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[14:46:08] <Jymmm> Does anyone know where to pickup 2/56 treaded screws retail?
[14:46:14] <Jymmm> threaded
[14:49:08] <L84Supper> http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=0&Ntk=Search+All&Ntt=%232-56&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&searchBox=1
[14:51:29] <L84Supper> the prices mention wholesale but they will sell you a small quantity
[14:52:14] <Jymmm> the Fastenal stores I've walked into mostly have construction hardware, not so much the smaller stuff.
[14:52:40] <Jymmm> "We can order it for you" bastards
[14:55:04] <L84Supper> don't you know that as a person living in the US you shouldn't need these screws anyway, you should be out buying a complete product from an approved consumer retail outlet :)
[14:57:28] <Jymmm> Anyone want to see my "Teddy Bear" ?
[14:58:13] <dimas_> Jymmm, yes :)
[14:58:43] <Jymmm> Laser engraved in granite yesterday... http://i54.tinypic.com/k2mo7n.jpg
[14:59:16] <atmega> cool
[14:59:42] <atmega> from a pic? through a processor?
[14:59:57] <Jymmm> from a photo, yes.
[15:01:01] <dimas_> cool
[15:01:16] <Jymmm> thanks
[15:01:30] <atmega> what software?
[15:02:10] <Jymmm> none really, just use Corel Draw like everything else I send to the laser.
[15:02:24] <atmega> oh, the laser does all of it?
[15:02:34] <Jymmm> Corel Draw is the "industry standard" for laser engravers.
[15:02:49] <atmega> I've seen that on the ebay laser engravers... wonder why.
[15:02:50] <Jymmm> Yeah, it just acts like a printer.
[15:03:01] <Jymmm> atmega: seen what?
[15:03:27] <atmega> taht they all mention corel draw
[15:04:09] <Jymmm> ah, yeah. Corel Draw is used for laser engravers, embroidery machines, vinyl cutters, etc.
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[16:07:04] <mrsun> what mode should the parport be in for running stuff with emc? :)
[16:08:12] <JT-Shop> wow it is up to 45F here in the shop now
[16:08:20] <JT-Shop> mode?
[16:08:23] <SWPadnos> if you're using the parallel port directly (ie, no pluto, pico, or Mesa card attached), then any mode should work
[16:08:49] <Jymmm> I thought ECP didn't work, only EPP (or something like that)
[16:09:09] <SWPadnos> "SPP" might be best, since it may enable stronger drivers and/or push-pull outputs, rather than some other thing that's necessary for bidirectional data transfer (which you don't need)
[16:09:17] <SWPadnos> if you have some other hardware, then EPP is the mode you want
[16:09:38] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Ah, finally got rid of the 6" of snow in the shop, huh?
[16:10:19] <SWPadnos> heh. we're supposed to have a high of -3 on Sunday. I'm pretty sure I won't be doing anything in the garage ;)
[16:10:54] <JT-Shop> most of it Jymmm
[16:11:12] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: You could install the AC in the shop =)
[16:11:23] <SWPadnos> yeah, I'd just turn it around
[16:11:25] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: didnt you cover the roof?
[16:11:37] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Well, that actually might work
[16:11:57] <SWPadnos> probably not - they're not meant to freeze up (ironically enough)
[16:12:10] <SWPadnos> I could crank up the kerosene heater though
[16:12:14] <SWPadnos> and/or electrics
[16:12:16] <Jymmm> indoors?
[16:12:24] <SWPadnos> sure, just crack a window
[16:12:35] <Jymmm> really?
[16:12:35] <SWPadnos> there's still a net gain
[16:12:50] <SWPadnos> but since I have a ton of accounting work to do, I think I'll just skip it
[16:13:05] <Jymmm> or a net loss if you consider the CO levels
[16:13:13] <SWPadnos> eh. it hasn't killed me yet
[16:13:38] <Jymmm> you sure about that? you DO eat like a zombie, and that would explain a few things.
[16:14:00] <SWPadnos> braaaaaiiiiiinnnnnnnzzzzzzzzz
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[16:14:24] <Jymmm> Send more paramedics!!!
[16:14:49] <Jymmm> (you rememebr that line?)
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[16:16:34] <skunkworks> -19f here this morning
[16:17:33] <skunkworks> +10f in the garage.. car seemed happy ;)
[16:18:50] <rwijbenga> Hi all, anybody here who can help me to setup EMC with a TB6560 3 axis board ?
[16:19:22] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: don't have the trusses up yet
[16:19:39] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: duct tape and bailing wire?
[16:19:47] <JT-Shop> got that
[16:19:54] <Jymmm> tarp it!
[16:20:11] <atmega> rwijbenga: I just plugged mine in and pretty much used the defaults
[16:20:43] <rwijbenga> What did you use for the motor timming's ?
[16:21:05] <skunkworks> stupid question - when I do the emc enviroment... I use . ./scripts/emc-enviroment in the list someone said . scripts/emc-environment which doesn't work for me.
[16:21:08] <atmega> I used whatever preset had the write pinouts and whatever timings were in there
[16:21:18] <atmega> err... right pinouts
[16:22:05] <rwijbenga> ok... gonna try it.. :)
[16:22:33] <atmega> you could fine-tune from there, but mine moved fine with whatever it used
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[16:22:46] <Jymmm> skunkworks: ./blah means <current working directory>/blah
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[16:23:11] <skunkworks> why do I need the extra .?
[16:24:25] <Jymmm> skunkworks: I believe it has to do with PATH setting in your environment. So if you have ~/home/blah compared to ~/home/test1/blah
[16:24:33] <skunkworks> . ./blah (actually if I don't do the first dot - I get sort of an explainaton. This script should be loaded in the context of your shell by executing . ./blah
[16:25:43] <rwijbenga> atmega: Hmm, the stepper rotates, but I can hold with my hand.... ?!
[16:25:59] <L84Supper> time to start selling those pentabular screw drivers http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/01/20/apples-diabolical-plan-to-screw-your-iphone/
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[16:27:07] <atmega> rwij: current settings correct? can you turn it when it is just sitting there locked?
[16:27:12] <Jymmm> rwijbenga: you can stop the rotation with your hand?
[16:27:34] <rwijbenga> Jymm, yes.... Als the same problem in Mach3 demo... !??!
[16:27:34] <Jymmm> rwijbenga: Check the current settings of the board
[16:27:37] <rwijbenga> also..
[16:28:01] <rwijbenga> Jymm: I have set it with the dipp switches to 100%... maybe wrong dip settings ?
[16:28:35] <Jymmm> since what I can read says it uses resistors, I'd say so. but I don't have/find a manual for it either.
[16:29:14] <Jymmm> TB6560 is a chipset, so what board your have is beyond me.
[16:29:43] <atmega> I was assuming the generic chinese TB6560 boards from ebay and the like
[16:30:20] <rwijbenga> Atmega and Jymmm: Yes it is a Ebay board..
[16:30:40] <rwijbenga> I have read that some people had there dipswitch settings wrong.. ?!
[16:30:47] <Jymmm> rwijbenga: there are dozns of sellers on ebay, that doesn't tell us anything
[16:31:01] <Jymmm> you have to be more specific with a link to the manual
[16:31:30] <rwijbenga> hang on.... gonna fetch the link ...
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[16:32:36] <rwijbenga> http://www.savebase.com/infobase/downloads/TB6560/TB6560_3Axis_Driver.doc
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[16:33:34] <rwijbenga> And these are my motors: ftp://ftp.phytron.de/phytron-usa/stepper_motors/zss-us.pdf
[16:33:45] <rwijbenga> The Phytron ZSS 56-200
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[16:34:52] <L84Supper> yeah uses "Toshiba TB6560AHQ chip"
[16:35:13] <rwijbenga> Not good ??
[16:36:08] <atmega> not for purists probably, but they want servos anyway
[16:36:29] <L84Supper> page #9 has the dip setting for Current output
[16:37:34] <rwijbenga> L84Supper: I have set the current to 100% and Decay 25% Microstep 1/2 ....
[16:38:20] <atmega> wow, does mach3 really look like that? all fuzzy and stuff?
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[16:39:03] <rwijbenga> Atmega: uhmm yes.... lot's of buttons.. :)
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[16:40:06] <atmega> .Four control inputs (divided into pairs of knives)
[16:42:20] <mrsun> gaah
[16:42:44] <mrsun> i have a parport card, but for some reason the header for the cable doesnt match the D510MO pinheader in the connections ...
[16:42:54] <mrsun> how many ways can you make a parport header cable in ...
[16:44:20] <rwijbenga> What is a good priced stepper board to start with then?
[16:45:29] <atmega> what's wrong with that one?
[16:45:48] <mrsun> who are you talking to ? :P
[16:46:31] <atmega> rwijbenga :)
[16:46:48] <mrsun> oh ok :(
[16:46:50] <mrsun> ;P
[16:46:59] <rwijbenga> atmega: I don't get it to work properly... hehe... I am used to my RepRap gen6 board.. USB plug and play :)
[16:47:33] <rwijbenga> I am gonna go over all the dipswitch combinations... maybe that give's me some more result's ...
[16:47:46] <atmega> if you don't need big motors, that one should work fine.
[16:48:27] <mrsun> oh 18-25 is gnd
[16:48:30] <mrsun> then it might not matter anywasy
[16:49:05] <rwijbenga> atmega: hmm.. Gonna experiment a bit more tonight....
[16:49:08] <mrsun> but on the d510mo mobo the 25 cable is "select"
[16:49:48] <mrsun> nothing is like it should be :/
[16:50:36] <atmega> rwijbenga: I used mine for a while but wanted bigger motors so I got a xylotex... I probably wouldn't do that again, but the price for motors+board+ps seemed reasonable at the time
[16:51:01] <psha> mrsun: it's lpt header is numbered not as DB-25 pins
[16:51:30] <mrsun> psha, humm, how do you mean? :)
[16:51:38] <mrsun> shouldnt 1 go to 1 on the db-25 ? :)
[16:52:26] <psha> 1 to 1 - yes ;)
[16:52:34] <psha> but 2 to 13 i guess, not to 2
[16:52:37] <rwijbenga> atmega: gonna look into that... It is just a hobby for me..
[16:52:39] <psha> or to 14
[16:53:11] <psha> to 14
[16:53:36] <psha> pins on LPT port are numbered 1-13 'big' row, then 14-25 'small' row
[16:53:43] <mrsun> hmm might be right
[16:53:45] <psha> on header they are odds in one, evens in other
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[16:53:50] <mrsun> 25 -> 13 on the db-25
[16:54:26] <mrsun> as 25 on the header is select, and select is 13
[16:54:37] <psha> when i was soldering pinout my first 2-3 attempts were wrong :)
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[16:55:16] <mrsun> im not soldering, this is from a already made db-25 cable for pinheader on a parport card =)
[16:55:38] <psha> then just plug it and you'll get correct numbering on LPT port
[16:55:46] <psha> if not - plug it other way :)
[16:55:59] <mrsun> psha, im afraid something goes boom :P
[16:56:12] <mrsun> if like select happends to end up on the db-25 gnd :P
[16:56:17] <psha> connect led - it won't boom :)
[16:56:30] <mrsun> i need to make myself a parport test board =)
[16:56:46] <psha> you neet to figure out where is first pin :)
[16:57:00] <mrsun> that isnt hard, it even got an arrow on it =)
[16:57:14] <psha> and it's marked on mobo too
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[16:58:15] <mrsun> well "yes" in the way that one pin is keyed
[16:58:18] <mrsun> (non existant)
[16:58:31] <mrsun> but no key in the one i want to put on the board :/
[16:58:57] <psha> is there red wire?
[16:59:00] <psha> on cable?
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[16:59:17] <mrsun> yes
[16:59:26] <psha> check that it's on side where first pin is
[16:59:27] <mrsun> and it goes to the 1 pin that is marked by an arrow on the connector ))
[16:59:44] <psha> red wire usually used for first pin
[16:59:50] <mrsun> btw, damn usb is resource hungry
[16:59:58] <psha> that's key :)
[17:00:00] <mrsun> im getting excellent numbers in the latency test, then i move the mouse .. blam
[17:00:09] <mrsun> jumps up like 5000 :P
[17:00:29] <psha> heh, d510mo latency is in 5k-10k range
[17:01:28] <atmega> that's much better than mine
[17:02:02] <skunkworks> that is probably with isolcpus
[17:02:13] <skunkworks> (5k-10k)
[17:02:23] <skunkworks> I was getting close to 20k without
[17:02:46] <skunkworks> well - with the atom 330
[17:03:27] <psha> skunkworks: yes, with isolcpus
[17:03:48] <atmega> is there a disadvantage to that?
[17:03:49] <psha> no reason not to enable it on 2-core processor :)
[17:03:55] <psha> atmega: no, only advantages
[17:04:14] <psha> you won't get any processing boost if you'll get small part of second core
[17:04:27] <psha> but you'll suffer from lot of context switches
[17:04:37] <psha> since rt tasks would not be bound to one core
[17:04:44] <psha> but they'll float between them
[17:04:54] <mrsun> psha, when running wlan on it i get 11k
[17:05:13] <psha> mrsun: sure, latency depends on perfepherial, not on cpu :)
[17:05:28] <mrsun> but 11k seems to be the top end
[17:05:31] <mrsun> whatever i do
[17:05:56] <psha> mine was ~11k with havy load on network, graphics and IO
[17:06:10] <psha> without network it's much better
[17:06:19] <mrsun> soon time to hook this up to the mill and see it running once again =)
[17:06:32] <mrsun> the network wont be touched much hopefully
[17:06:47] <mrsun> dont know if the internal ehternet would yeald better results ?
[17:06:55] <mrsun> compared to an pci wlan card
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[17:07:12] <mrsun> but 500khz stepping freq isnt that quite enough ? :)
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[17:08:05] <psha> mrsun: 50, not 500
[17:08:16] <psha> for 500 you need 2us base thread
[17:08:53] <psha> heh, internal ethernet is gbit :)
[17:09:04] <psha> so you may even run GUI remotely :)
[17:12:27] <mrsun> only thing is that i want some other screen for the computer
[17:12:32] <mrsun> only have a huge crt screen
[17:12:35] <skunkworks> jeez - now that is a tool changer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO7st-UxeY8
[17:13:04] <skunkworks> mrsun: great latency numbers
[17:18:06] <mrsun> well seems the cable should fit anyways
[17:18:11] <mrsun> so i gues si have a go then =)
[17:18:19] <mrsun> just need to salvage two mounting screws somewhere :P
[17:19:49] <mrsun> is there any great free cam software for linux? :/
[17:19:58] <mrsun> i find heeks very cumbersome under linux
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[17:20:09] <drill> hi
[17:20:09] <the_wench> hello drill, you have a question?
[17:23:31] <awallin_> mrsun: are you willing to come up with a better GUI than heekscad ?
[17:23:59] <skunkworks> awallin_: any progress on the extruder?
[17:24:27] <mrsun> awallin, the problem is not the gui, problem is making it all work without crashes and then it comes to the undo stuff =)
[17:24:38] <awallin_> hi skunkworks: not really :(
[17:24:49] <mrsun> its quite nice to work with, except for the not being able to tab between the values etc in linux either
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[17:26:11] <skunkworks> awallin_: awww ;)
[17:26:31] <awallin_> mrsun: so actually you are not looking for a CAM program, you want a CAD or 3D modeler?
[17:26:42] <mrsun> awallin_, no cam ...
[17:26:52] <mrsun> as in i need to change the values a great deal to make the pieces fit
[17:27:06] <mrsun> and not being able to tab then have to click outside and the list resets itself to the top is QUITE annoying =)
[17:27:22] <mrsun> cad/cam then
[17:27:28] <mrsun> so i can draw the parts and generate toolpaths for them
[17:27:28] <mrsun> :P
[17:27:41] <awallin_> skunkworks: I'm not sure what actually useful stuff you can do with a 3D printer. for demos and toys it's ok...
[17:28:36] <mrsun> and not being able to undo something and have to save my own copies over and overa gain to be able to step back is also ... :/
[17:28:50] <mrsun> imo stuff like that should be concentrated at not adding a billion more ways to cut stuff =)
[17:29:03] <mrsun> ofc the ways to cut stuffs is nice also =)
[17:29:10] <skunkworks> awallin_: I think they are neat to watch... but I would probably never make one.
[17:29:32] <skunkworks> too many other projects
[17:30:12] <awallin_> putting together something for cad/cam requires knowing the gui-toolkit (qt,wx, whatever), the 3D toolkit (opengl, vtk, opencascade etc) and the cam-libraries. not easy for one person to do everything just as a hobby...
[17:30:25] <awallin_> did freeCAD also use opencascade?
[17:30:56] <pcw_home> skunkworks: that tool changer reminds me of those old banks that grabbed the coin
[17:31:15] <mrsun> awallin, nop that is true =)
[17:31:54] <skunkworks> pcw_home: quite the mechenism.. :)
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[17:32:36] <mrsun> and the newest head version of heeks crashes on "add new pocket operation" :P
[17:32:51] <skunkworks> pcw_home: how many rpm max with the 5i20 read a 5000 line encoder with the 15clock filter enabled?
[17:32:57] <pcw_home> a little Rube Goldberg maybe
[17:33:11] <pcw_home> umm...
[17:33:16] <skunkworks> :)
[17:33:21] <skunkworks> quick - quick!
[17:35:21] <skunkworks> I came up with 24000rpm - but if I did it wrong and it was 1/4 of that - it is still 6000 rpm...
[17:35:28] <pcw_home> with 15 counts the 5I20 will count around 4 MHz 5000 lines = 20000 counts /rev so 200 revs.sec = 12K RPM,
[17:35:40] <skunkworks> oh good
[17:36:08] <skunkworks> Thank you
[17:37:12] <pcw_home> but you need some margin for out of square error on the encoder so maybe 8K would be more realistic
[17:37:14] <pcw_home> (most hi-res encoders will not run this fast however, thier front end analog circuitry is too slow)
[17:37:22] <skunkworks> how do you get 4mhz? I thought it would be 33mhz/15 or around 2.2mhz
[17:39:37] <pcw_home> the input filters take 15 counts (15X 30 ns = 450 ns) but they do not filter quadrature but rather the input square waves so 2X 2.2 MHz square waves = 4.4 MHz quadrature count rate
[17:40:10] <skunkworks> these say that the 1 MHz for CPR 5001 to 10,000
[17:40:29] <skunkworks> pcw_home: ah - neat
[17:40:58] <pcw_home> Yep the encoder is usually the limit
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[17:42:37] <skunkworks> so would that be a max rpm of 12000?
[17:43:54] <pcw_home> Does CPR = quadrature counts per rev? a 5000 line encoder would be 20000 CPR in that case
[17:44:00] <skunkworks> right
[17:45:38] <pcw_home> with a 10000 CPR encoder 1 MHz count rate would be 6000 RPM
[17:46:18] <skunkworks> I can handle that!
[17:46:26] <skunkworks> (I already bought them ;))
[17:49:23] <pcw_home> which resolution?
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[17:52:53] <pcw_home> I notice I was wrong up above: 4.4 MHz count rate is 2X 1.1 MHz square waves (A, B filter need minimum 450 nS high, 450 nS low)
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[17:56:57] <IchGuckLive> Hi all here, from a sunny cold germany
[17:57:40] <mrsun> gah linux sucks in the way that every linux user seems to think that "lets make it as complicated as posible for the user so that it seems l33t" is the way to go :/
[17:59:50] <Jymmm> mrsun: what are you babbling about?
[18:00:04] <IchGuckLive> Linux is the best to go for
[18:00:57] <mrsun> Jymmm, trying different cad programs, brl-cad in particular ... about 100 executable files in the bin directory
[18:01:02] <mrsun> none of them which gives you a gui :P
[18:01:21] <IchGuckLive> Jymmm: Has the CRC routin changed from 2.43->2.44
[18:02:00] <IchGuckLive> mrsun Heekscad is like inventor
[18:02:22] <Jymmm> mrsun: Did you bother to read the docs ?
[18:02:27] <IchGuckLive> it also has a CNC for generating direct to EMC2
[18:02:41] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, yes i know
[18:02:54] <IchGuckLive> im working right now on the new r 1287
[18:03:04] <mrsun> been using it for a long time but got turned off by the fact that i CAN NOT undo changes without messing everything and i cannot edit the parameters of stuff with any kind of flow
[18:03:17] <IchGuckLive> to change Cutter radius Compensation for the EMC post
[18:04:25] <IchGuckLive> mrsun its free and so you got to keep it as somple as it is , come and join as and programm what you want yourself !!
[18:04:32] <mrsun> and with the latest download i did it crashes when trying to do a pocket
[18:04:37] <mrsun> without any reason to why it crashes :/
[18:04:52] <IchGuckLive> witch release
[18:05:00] <Jymmm> mrsun: Did you check/report a bug?
[18:05:00] <IchGuckLive> 0.15.1
[18:05:02] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, well learning both wx, opencascade, python etc in one go isnt my cup of tea :/
[18:05:13] <mrsun> Jymmm, well if i do not get a reason i cannot report bugs
[18:05:21] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, its the svn head
[18:05:30] <mrsun> isnt 0.15.1 like 3 years old? :P
[18:05:55] <IchGuckLive> did you go for cmake or the make
[18:06:11] <mrsun> cmake
[18:06:11] <IchGuckLive> witch linux are you on
[18:06:14] <mrsun> ubuntu
[18:06:19] <IchGuckLive> 10.04
[18:06:42] <IchGuckLive> 32bit
[18:06:43] <Jymmm> IchGuckLive: s/witch/which/
[18:06:44] <mrsun> 10.10
[18:06:59] <IchGuckLive> oh 10.10 is a miss
[18:07:12] <IchGuckLive> Jymmm: B)
[18:07:18] <mrsun> and for some reason the heekcnc is only released for windows?
[18:07:21] <mrsun> exes
[18:07:34] <mrsun> so kinda only left with the option, build it yourself
[18:07:39] <mrsun> once again, linux l33tness :P
[18:07:49] <IchGuckLive> no i compiled it 5min ago and runs perfect with then EMC CRC post prozessor
[18:08:40] <mrsun> segmentation fault as soon as i select "pocket"
[18:09:01] <awallin_> mrsun: two options: learn programming/l33tness, or go buy mastercam/surfcam. you choose.
[18:09:40] <IchGuckLive> only problem i got wars the out move changed from emc2 2.4.3 to 2.4.4 the Z move did also CRC correction
[18:10:23] <IchGuckLive> mrsun did you compile it today ?
[18:10:28] <mrsun> yes
[18:10:53] <mrsun> but one more problem is that heekscnc nor cad can do a make uninstall so you can get a true clean start
[18:10:59] <mrsun> so alot of residue is left :/
[18:12:07] <mrsun> but, this "CMake/CPack version 2.8.2 will not create working .deb packages!" can cmake make deb packages for it also ?
[18:12:09] <IchGuckLive> we changed the kurve class over night it might fould on some compiling got to check this
[18:13:03] <IchGuckLive> i woudt give you working packetches if you are on 10.04 but 10.10 i got nothing
[18:13:16] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, it crashed a couple of days ago also when i tried
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[18:14:16] <IchGuckLive> mrsun did you folliw That ? http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/wiki/UbuntuInstallation
[18:15:07] <IchGuckLive> thewre is in the first part your problem
[18:15:18] <IchGuckLive> The version of cmake in Ubuntu 10.10 is 2.8.2. Cmake 2.8.2 has a bug that will prevent HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC from installing. You will need to use a newer (or older) version of cmake.
[18:16:04] <IchGuckLive> go for 2.8.0
[18:16:50] <skunkworks> pcw_home: 5000 line for $18
[18:17:02] <mrsun> mm
[18:19:34] <pcw_home> Thats an incredible price
[18:19:52] <awallin_> amt? or us-digital ?
[18:21:51] <mrsun> crashes like hell :/
[18:22:11] <IchGuckLive> mrsun what crashes
[18:22:20] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, crashes on pocket operation
[18:22:32] <IchGuckLive> it takes up to 30min to compile from bottom
[18:22:53] <mrsun> right
[18:23:11] <mrsun> the heekscad/cnc compilation takes like 3 minutes :P
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[18:23:18] <IchGuckLive> you got to remove the Synaptic packet first ! then go to /Usr/lib delete the heekscnc folder
[18:25:08] <skunkworks> pcw_home: they are http://cgi.ebay.com/ROTARY-ENCODER-15T-ACCU-CODER-5000-CPR-10-POLE_W0QQitemZ180580776188QQcategoryZ97184QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6525122301089587444
[18:25:22] <skunkworks> I don't know what the technology is.. (I really doubt it is a disk)
[18:25:35] <skunkworks> but for that price I figured it would be a nice experiemet
[18:25:54] <awallin_> resolver?
[18:26:04] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, just keeps crashing, and i cant figure out why =)
[18:26:23] <mrsun> trying to recompile it all :/
[18:26:26] <mrsun> once again
[18:26:41] <IchGuckLive> mrsun try if profile works
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[18:28:33] <mrsun> yes i can add it but nothing happends when i press post process
[18:29:25] <mrsun> oh well
[18:29:28] <mrsun> have to go walk the dog
[18:29:32] <skunkworks> awallin_: not sure... it outputs quadature + index.
[18:29:35] <mrsun> gonna take it all from the beginning once again when i get home
[18:29:36] <IchGuckLive> By i check it
[18:29:40] <mrsun> need to get it working =)
[18:29:41] <skunkworks> awallin_: http://www.encoder.com/literature/datasheet-15th.pdf
[18:30:02] <awallin_> skunkworks: u,v,w are maybe hall signals for commutation of a 3-phase motor
[18:30:33] <skunkworks> yes - but these are for 10 pole motors (something I wasn't planning on using)
[18:30:43] <skunkworks> (how ever that works ;)
[18:31:13] <awallin_> 10 electrical revolutions per one mechanical. or something like that :)
[18:32:07] <skunkworks> they say they are disk.. wow
[18:32:44] <skunkworks> Special disk resolutions are available upon request and may be subject to a one-time NRE fee.
[18:33:27] <awallin_> the amt ones are capacitive I think
[18:33:38] <awallin_> they are 15-20 eur/usd from digikey I think
[18:34:00] <skunkworks> yes - I have a few of those.
[18:34:54] <skunkworks> used one here for spindle motor feedback http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG
[18:35:03] <skunkworks> seems to work well for that.
[18:36:15] <awallin_> bbl
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[21:41:16] <seb_kuzminsky> what should happen when i hit F9 in axis in 2.4? should the spindle come on in clockwise, at the most recently set S-word spindle speed?
[21:43:57] <skunkworks> if it is simialar to the spindle start buttons - it starts the spindle at like s1
[21:44:07] <skunkworks> (in the manual tab of axis)
[21:44:20] <seb_kuzminsky> ah, s1 is the expected behavior, just not by me ;-)
[21:44:25] <skunkworks> heh
[21:44:53] <skunkworks> when I am starting a spindle - I usually do a SwhateverM3 in mdi ;)
[21:45:14] <seb_kuzminsky> the speed control on my machine is by a human twisting the varispeed knob, and f9 just turns it on or off
[21:45:35] <seb_kuzminsky> mdi Smumble M3 sounds like the way to go, thanks :-)
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[21:47:05] <skunkworks> I would think hitting f9 and then twisthing the varispeed knob would work.
[21:47:13] <seb_kuzminsky> it does :-)
[21:47:33] <skunkworks> heh
[21:47:35] <seb_kuzminsky> i just got confused by my machine
[21:47:48] <seb_kuzminsky> i've got no speed control in emc2, it's manual
[21:48:02] <seb_kuzminsky> so axis setting S to 1 when you hit F9 has no effect on my machine
[21:48:19] <seb_kuzminsky> on my machine, F9 returns you to the last speed you had
[21:48:49] <seb_kuzminsky> which is kind of nice, but (as i now understand thanks to you) non-standard :-)
[21:52:26] <atmega> mine does that also
[22:14:27] <JT-Shop> if you goto help/quick reference you can see what all the keys do
[22:14:41] <JT-Shop> in Axis
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[23:26:57] <UnderSampled> Hello
[23:26:58] <the_wench> hello UnderSampled, you have a question?
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[23:27:16] <UnderSampled> Has anyone used QNX for cnc?
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[23:46:17] <JT-Shop> what is QNX?
[23:48:28] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: a RTOS
[23:48:44] <JT-Shop> what is a RTOS?
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[23:49:00] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: RTOS == Real Time Operating System
[23:50:05] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: thanks
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[23:59:58] <UnderSampled> Jymmm: do you know of anyone using it?