#emc | Logs for 2010-12-04

[00:04:36] <theorb> theorb is now known as theorbtwo
[00:06:32] <atmega> I made a new lid so I could put my 10w head on my 9ah can, but I'd rather keep the 18w head
[00:06:52] <atmega> <urk>
[00:28:00] <tom3p> on wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?GladeVcpSetup add the path to the .glade file eg: EMBED_TAB_COMMAND = gladevcp -c heweyDeweyLouie-ui -w {XID} /home/you/emc2-dev/lib/python/gladevcp/heweyDeweyLouie-ui.glade
[00:28:43] <tom3p> pizza! /part
[01:06:41] <TiN> Hi all, we have a cnc laboflex. And the question is, can i use this cnc with emc software?
[01:06:59] <TiN> the exact model is laboflex 60
[01:13:46] <atmega> looks nifty, don't they come with software to run them?
[01:16:53] <TiN> Yes, but the software is unstable and many bugs.
[01:17:18] <TiN> we wanted to try another software
[01:20:27] <TiN> We use in this lab(University Investigation Laboratories), all free software. The software of the manufacturer runs under Windows only
[01:22:02] <atmega> I would say "probably" :)
[01:22:35] <atmega> but pretty much everyone else here knows more about EMC than I do... they just seem to be hiding.
[01:46:50] <L84Supper> TiN: have a link?
[02:48:59] <TiN> L84Supper, Yes http://www.colinbus.com/en/laboflex_en.htm the exact model is Colinbus LaboFlex 60/HF
[02:57:03] <atmega> looks like pretty spiffy hardware, and pricey
[03:27:23] <pcw_home> Looks like maybe serial/USB controller so not to easy to drive with EMC without hardware changes
[03:27:25] <pcw_home> but _if_ the step drives are separate from the controller it might be easy
[03:27:26] <pcw_home> (unplug drives and limit switches from controller, reconnect to parallel port breakout)
[05:44:27] <elmo40> picked up one of these with 2GB RAM for $40. Will it play well with EMC? It uses nVidia for everything :P http://tinyurl.com/33hfgwt
[05:44:33] <elmo40> what video driver should I use?
[10:29:27] <Vq_> Vq_ is now known as Vq
[11:52:47] <jthornton> * jthornton wonders how many times I can click on different links for an ATtiny project and see the same photo
[12:14:47] <Duckie> hi
[12:14:47] <the_wench> hello Duckie, you have a question?
[12:15:00] <Duckie> got a problem with install racket tool
[12:15:07] <Duckie> yes :p
[12:16:06] <Duckie> i found this to instal http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?RackToolChanger
[12:16:20] <Duckie> but i'm stuck on step 1
[12:16:45] <Duckie> that go to a other site http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#Getting_the_source_with_git
[12:23:28] <jthornton> that first link is a bit outdated
[12:24:20] <jthornton> what part are you stuck on?
[12:26:00] <Duckie> well..
[12:26:04] <jthornton> Duckie: that patch is not likely to work as it is 2 years old
[12:26:37] <Duckie> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#Getting_the_source_with_git
[12:26:58] <Duckie> stuck on 2.2. Getting the source with git
[12:27:11] <jthornton> what did you do and what did you get?
[12:27:13] <Duckie> after :"The commands below generally assume you are inside the emc2-dev directory."
[12:27:23] <Duckie> above done
[12:27:29] <Duckie> below not done
[12:29:05] <jthornton> and?
[12:41:27] <MattyMatt> my first ever emc2 crash http://www.pastebin.ca/2010406
[12:42:23] <MattyMatt> I'll just restart, but are there any clues to my realtime errors there that I can fix easily? they never bother me so I've ignored them up till now
[12:43:57] <Duckie> i'm back finish eating
[12:45:50] <Duckie> see site stuck on "The commands below generally assume you are inside the emc2-dev directory." (search it)
[12:46:34] <Duckie> doens't not not how i go further
[12:47:24] <SWPadnos> MattyMatt, the problem you had is unrelated to the realtime delays
[12:47:43] <SWPadnos> I believe this is the real error: python: tnl/t_draw.c:203: bind_inputs: Assertion `inputs[i]->BufferObj->Pointer' failed.
[12:48:09] <jthornton> Duckie: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/common_Linux_FAQ.html#sec:Terminal-Commands
[12:48:12] <SWPadnos> (of course, it's still a good idea to get rid of the realtime delays if you can)
[12:49:10] <Duckie> @jth but wath do they mean on "git branch --track v2.4_branch origin/v2.4_branch
[12:49:11] <Duckie> git checkout v2.4_branch"
[12:49:23] <Duckie> i got ubuntu 8.04 emc 2.30
[12:49:31] <Duckie> 2.3.0
[12:50:03] <jthornton> if you follow those instructions you will have the source for 2.4
[12:50:34] <Duckie> ah that is a upgrade code?
[12:51:03] <Duckie> or must i follow "this codese the form v2_3_branch instead"
[12:51:41] <jthornton> that is a separate source from your installed version
[12:52:20] <jthornton> if you wish to upgrade from 2.3 to 2.4 then follow the instructions here http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.4
[12:53:46] <Duckie> ok but what must i typ now after the line:"The commands below generally assume you are inside the emc2-dev directory." (from the site)
[12:53:58] <Duckie> (site text)
[12:58:46] <Duckie> and?
[13:07:40] <Duckie> what must i type now?
[15:18:00] <cradek> you've got a serious problem with the realtime performance on that machine
[15:18:14] <cradek> well he's not even here
[15:18:22] <cradek> I was scrolled back and didn't notice :-P
[15:19:22] <cradek> I bet he gets stepper stalls
[15:19:44] <SWPadnos> I think the real problem there was the python error
[15:20:03] <cradek> yes, but I definitely see two real problems
[15:20:11] <SWPadnos> sure
[15:40:39] <kb8wmc> good day to all
[16:02:26] <dgarr> jepler: notes on use case: http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/4dec.txt
[16:29:47] <elmo40> the video for ngcgui is lovely. many features that I would want to play with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8T5Fw0ISs
[16:31:22] <dgarr> elmo* you can download and try it if you like http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/ngcgui/readme for instructions
[16:32:44] <dgarr> you need recent version (v4) of truetype-tracer to use all its features
[16:42:27] <elmo40> I am rebuilding my computer for my mill. will it work with 64-bit version of emc on Hardy?
[16:43:42] <dgarr> sure -- its just a tcl script, i'm doing my development on a laptop running 64bit lucid
[16:43:44] <elmo40> and do I need 2.5.0?
[16:44:41] <elmo40> ngcgui is developed using emc2.5.0~pre (git master)
[16:46:07] <elmo40> I've seen all the ornamental videos. lovely little machine!
[16:47:29] <dgarr> i think most things work on 2.4 (i just don't go back and test with 2.4 often), and thanks
[16:54:14] <Maukka> Hello
[16:54:14] <the_wench> hello Maukka, you have a question?
[16:55:53] <Maukka> Yes i have quoestioin: what kind of hal. file i need to control jog speed whit potentiometer.
[18:08:13] <IchGuckLive> hi all from bitter cold germany
[18:29:26] <Vq> hi from warm and sunny sweden :)
[18:32:19] <IchGuckLive> -19 today at the ski track in sweden !
[18:41:06] <IchGuckLive> Vq: Skidskytte Bjorndalen
[18:43:06] <Vq> yeah, good thing we haven't reached "bitter cold" yet :)
[18:46:34] <IchGuckLive> is Biathlon in english the same my translater does not match this
[19:51:37] <skunkworks> we got about 6 inches of snow today.
[20:14:36] <SteveStallings> SteveStallings is now known as steves_logging
[21:07:53] <Jymmm> skunkworks: OH NO! RUN FOR THE HILLS BEFORE YOU GET BURIED!
[21:08:24] <pcw_home> cold and rainy here in "Sunny California"
[21:08:44] <Jymmm> NEVER!
[22:02:53] <Vq> skunkworks: here it's closer to 6dm
[22:21:57] <MattyMatt> cradek, does it look terminal? would a video card help do you think?
[22:22:44] <MattyMatt> or maybe ditching the USB keyb & mouse? I've heard usb2 can be a latency monster
[22:24:10] <MattyMatt> I don't lose steps or anything, but I do have issues when jogging, it keeps going for upwards of a second after I release the key
[22:24:30] <MattyMatt> that's a pita
[22:25:45] <skunkworks> MattyMatt: what is your base period? sounds like maybe it is too low for your computer. the harder you push it - the slower the gui will ack.
[22:25:46] <MattyMatt> it means I have to take jog speed way down when touching off
[22:25:57] <skunkworks> act
[22:26:30] <MattyMatt> iirc 15000ns. where and how do I check that?
[22:26:58] <skunkworks> it would be in the ini
[22:29:00] <MattyMatt> 100k base, 1M servo
[22:30:15] <skunkworks> ? that doesn't seem right
[22:30:31] <skunkworks> 100000 for base?
[22:32:32] <MattyMatt> yep, double checked
[22:34:07] <MattyMatt> this is in [EMCMOT] in the machine .ini made by stepconf
[22:40:21] <MattyMatt> I should try my other machine. it's my windows box in theory but I never turn it on these days. 2200+ sempron with 4200Ti
[22:42:58] <MattyMatt> I just need assuring VS debugger will work in a VM on this one. I'll ask around
[22:44:48] <MattyMatt> my current emc machine is nice and quiet, so that can be my server
[22:46:37] <MattyMatt> it's an HP machine with a slightly weird custom mobo. it's ATX but with custom media crap and a cooling duct
[22:47:51] <MattyMatt> it has a whiff of Compaq engineering about it