#emc | Logs for 2010-07-24

[00:04:20] <theorb> theorb is now known as theorbtwo
[00:36:35] <madsci44> yep wow i cant believe i forgot about that im very sorry - tried in 242 and its fine
[02:02:19] <lepton> Hey! I just fixed the Arduino > Hal coding to work in EMC 2.4!!
[02:02:19] <lepton> Hurray
[02:47:26] <mikegg> really? cool. maybe I will hook that up for some analog in.
[03:11:58] <cradek> madsci44: I've pushed a fix for git master's tolerance mode arc substitution now. thanks for the (roundabout) kick in the pants to finish it. if you'd pull and test it that would be great.
[03:12:36] <madsci44> madsci44 is now known as madsci44-dunce
[03:12:41] <madsci44-dunce> ok
[03:12:45] <madsci44-dunce> i would be happy to
[03:12:48] <cradek> haha
[03:12:48] <cradek> thanks
[03:59:05] <Birdman3131> Birdman3131 is now known as birdman3131|zzzz
[04:28:29] <birdman3131|zzzz> birdman3131|zzzz is now known as Birdman3131
[05:05:20] <L84Supper> http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PM-45M-BENCH-TYPE-MILLING-MACHINE-9x32-MILL-TABLE-/320554174204?cmd=ViewItem&pt=BI_Mills&hash=item4aa28486fc
[05:05:59] <L84Supper> anyone have experience with this brand?
[06:15:12] <ries_> ries_ is now known as ries
[07:39:37] <alex_chally> madsci44-dunce
[07:39:40] <alex_chally> why the cap?
[08:40:08] <Fox_M|afk> Fox_M|afk is now known as Fox_Muldr
[09:45:26] <k0sh> do you guys know of any opiniated news rss stream that isnt only ctrl-c ctrl-v of what somone said or did? something non-sensationalistic?
[09:45:48] <k0sh> a bit ot, but just taking my luck
[12:28:05] <ries> k0sh: what are you look for ?? We talk about EMC here
[13:41:44] <k0sh> ries: well. yea, i said its a bit offtopic, just was trying my luck to find something. smart ppl usually have smart ideas about where to get stuff they want
[13:43:56] <k0sh> my news so far is euronews and dwtv both have nice non frenzy style and both have streams on teh webs
[14:01:30] <ries> k0sh: I don't see the relationship with EMC....
[14:01:53] <k0sh> emc gathers smart ppl?
[18:53:03] <alex_chally> madsci44
[18:53:26] <alex_chally> I am sorry, I asked you a question about fuses yesterday and then people came over
[19:01:51] <madsci44> hey was no problem i have been slightly swamped for the past 24 hrs
[19:09:16] <JT-Hardinge> hmm my SPI electronic micrometers came with some ball tips as well... I assume for measuring tube walls...
[19:10:14] <alex_chally> JT-Hardinge, also useful for across dovetails...
[19:10:23] <alex_chally> well, i guess maybe not on a mic
[19:10:30] <alex_chally> unless it is reallllllly big
[19:10:36] <JT-Hardinge> I wondering how that would work :)
[19:11:41] <JT-Hardinge> dang if they don't read down to 0.00005"... much finer than I can see LOL
[19:11:44] <alex_chally> damnit, i need a 2-3" mic
[19:11:58] <alex_chally> and a nice set of telescoping gauges
[19:12:46] <JT-Hardinge> I just ordered some telescoping gauges from flea bay that looked nice and new for $30 or so
[19:13:05] <alex_chally> JT-Hardinge, I have a shitty set from msc that I got for like $15
[19:13:16] <alex_chally> but when I use a nice mic over them they are not as consistant as I would like
[19:13:29] <alex_chally> I usually have to take 5-10 measures to make sure that they are correct
[19:13:46] <alex_chally> where as when I use my taecher's mitutoyo ones they seem to be repeateable every damn time
[19:13:54] <JT-Hardinge> I have a shitty set too that was THROWN in the box with some other stuff when I bought my manual mill
[19:14:08] <frallzor> so whats going on in here lately?
[19:14:14] <JT-Hardinge> not much
[19:14:43] <alex_chally> fragalot, not a lot, I am about to starta bunch of wiring which means I am about to ask a lot of ignorant questions in here :D
[19:14:54] <frallzor> *cough*
[19:15:09] <frallzor> fra... who? ;)
[19:16:03] <Jymmm> alex_chally: Just connect all the wires together!
[19:16:04] <alex_chally> frallzor, tab complete does whatever it wants
[19:16:19] <alex_chally> Jymmm, yup, and then wire my balls in and turn on the PSU!
[19:16:49] <Jymmm> alex_chally: That's stupid, wire directly to 220VAC, no PS needed
[19:19:36] <andypugh> Rectification us useful, but 220V is a bit weedy really.
[19:19:52] <andypugh> I have 680V DC on my servo board...
[19:20:47] <alex_chally> Jymmm, I could run it backwards through the big torroid on my psu
[19:31:00] <Jymmm> I have some 2x2's that I need to join end to end without using metal brackets, any ideas?
[19:32:12] <alex_chally> Jymmm, how strong?
[19:32:20] <alex_chally> and what kind of loads?
[19:32:42] <Jymmm> its the frame of a door for a green house
[19:33:08] <JT-Hardinge> can you laminate some plywood across the joint?
[19:33:24] <JT-Hardinge> if not then a scarf joint
[19:33:31] <Jymmm> scarf joint?
[19:33:46] <Jymmm> ah
[19:33:47] <JT-Hardinge> long taper
[19:34:00] <alex_chally> Jymmm, or maybe a finger joint if it is going to be under compression
[19:34:31] <Jymmm> * Jymmm watches scarf joint video
[19:34:51] <alex_chally> fucking wood...
[19:35:04] <alex_chally> I honestly wish I were better with it
[19:35:13] <alex_chally> every time I make something out of wood it looks like crap
[19:36:07] <JT-Hardinge> * JT-Hardinge likes working with wood as much as metals and plastics
[19:36:40] <Jymmm> I have a bunch of used 2x6 redwood decking boards, just gonna reuse them and rip down to 2x2
[19:37:04] <Jymmm> then make em longer =)
[19:38:13] <JT-Hardinge> damm this Hardinge parts off nice
[19:38:52] <andypugh> I prefer working with wood to most other materials.
[19:39:23] <alex_chally> JT-Hardinge, we got a nice new carbide parting tool (iscar) for our haas tl-1
[19:39:32] <alex_chally> I cut a 20 thou wide washer with it the other day
[19:39:35] <alex_chally> it was... good.
[19:39:48] <andypugh> Though I am ecstatic with how the ali parts of my release piston came out (£10 at the anodisers well spent)
[19:40:43] <alex_chally> hmmm, i wonder what happens if you try to part off something that is turning between centers
[19:40:46] <alex_chally> other then, well, death.
[19:43:12] <andypugh> I am pretty sure that they used to part between centres routinely.
[19:43:41] <alex_chally> I... wouldn't that lead to the headstock side with the dog attached flying... somewhere?
[19:44:23] <andypugh> I guess gloves might help, to catch the two parts.
[19:50:53] <jthornton> you only see guys nicknamed stumpy wearing gloves around rotating machinery
[19:51:32] <alex_chally> jthornton, at the shop at school I am younger then about 90% of the people there
[19:52:03] <alex_chally> going up to some of the newer students who are about 40 years old and having to tell them something like "You are going to get your hand ripped off if you keep those gloves on" is embarassing
[19:52:06] <alex_chally> for them
[19:52:33] <alex_chally> one dude insisted that his gloves would not get caught in a horizontal bandsaw
[19:52:49] <alex_chally> I... was shocked
[19:53:38] <frallzor> heh Im doing a sign for stork charity :P
[20:18:45] <alex_chally> I have a steel plate that is a bit rusty, what is the easiest way to scrub it off?
[20:18:51] <alex_chally> I was thinking something like CLR and a wire brush
[20:23:24] <madsci44> varsol and a rag
[20:23:30] <madsci44> and good ventilation
[20:24:00] <JT-Hardinge> caustic soda and water will dissolve rust down to the bare metal
[20:24:56] <madsci44> (my idea only if its ultra light surface rust)
[20:25:27] <madsci44> humidity sucks
[20:25:39] <andypugh> And, as a bonus, you don't need soap to wash your hands afterwards, as the caustic soda has turned your skin into soap.
[20:25:59] <JT-Hardinge> if you don't wear gloves it will lol
[20:26:56] <JT-Hardinge> Dewey's auto magic thing works pretty well once set up
[20:57:32] <penguin> where is located the image-to-gcode script?
[20:57:36] <penguin> i can't find it
[20:58:39] <andypugh> http://www.imagetogcode.com/
[20:58:51] <penguin> i mean, the script integrated with emc
[20:59:00] <penguin> is a python script
[20:59:08] <andypugh> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.1/html/gui/image-to-gcode/index.html
[20:59:23] <andypugh> (search box on the linuxcnc.org front page)
[20:59:59] <penguin> mmm... doesn't appear there
[21:00:20] <penguin> the directory location
[21:03:22] <penguin> usr/bin/
[21:03:26] <penguin> :)
[21:04:37] <andypugh> I think the idea is you use it as a filter, and if Axis opens a PNG file, G-code happens
[21:11:15] <alex_chally> alright, clr and a wire brush are being a success
[21:14:22] <jthornton> what does clr have in it?
[21:15:59] <alex_chally> jthornton, it is some kind of light acid, but I am not sure what
[21:22:44] <JT-Hardinge> SWEET! I got my ID subroutine working great with Dewey's magic auto thingy
[21:33:43] <moopy> wtf is an ID subroutine and what is dewey magic auto thingy?
[21:36:58] <jthornton> take a look on the forum in the subroutine section
[21:38:35] <andypugh> Probably phosphoric acid.
[21:39:21] <frallzor> thats what she said
[21:40:48] <JT-Hardinge> it's a boring subroutine you would not be entertained much
[21:53:18] <alex_joni> how boring?
[21:55:07] <andypugh> Incrementally?
[21:55:29] <JT-Hardinge> boring rather well actually
[21:56:04] <JT-Hardinge> you can set what you want for all the parameters using the gui
[21:59:07] <andypugh> You can do that in mine, and other ops too :-)
[21:59:43] <JT-Hardinge> http://imagebin.ca/view/iXvOCCT.html
[22:00:18] <andypugh> Ah, that one. I have to say that is fairly cunning.
[22:00:32] <JT-Hardinge> yes, but yours is amazing and complex
[22:00:41] <JT-Hardinge> I have buttons on the desktop for all the other ops
[22:03:42] <JT-Hardinge> it is indeed
[22:04:47] <andypugh> I am exploring the Ballmer Peak looking at velocity for Motenc. ( http://xkcd.com/323/ )
[22:04:47] <JT-Hardinge> now I just need to make one to do profiles from a dxf or gui or something
[22:05:14] <andypugh> I think somebody is already working on that, G-code profile to lathe-roughing
[22:05:48] <JT-Hardinge> I am as well atm
[22:07:38] <alex_chally> god damnit
[22:07:54] <alex_chally> its so hot in here that the rust remover keeps drying out
[22:08:00] <JT-Hardinge> exploring the Ballmer Peak
[22:08:00] <JT-Hardinge> and thinking about a g code profiler
[22:08:06] <alex_chally> * alex_chally puts wet paper towles over it all
[22:14:47] <cradek>
[22:21:07] <frallzor> * frallzor is bored
[22:23:00] <lepton> Sorry to hear that. But with so much of the computational universe to explore, how can you possibly be bored!?
[22:23:27] <JT-Hardinge> cradek: your words are invisible
[22:24:19] <JT-Hardinge> I'm boring holes lol
[22:25:11] <alex_joni> g'night all
[22:26:50] <JT-Hardinge> good night alex_joni
[22:37:32] <JT-Hardinge> This is working so sweet I wish dgarret was here to see
[22:41:03] <alex_chally> so I am laying out my electronics box right now
[22:41:30] <alex_chally> any tips and tricks for reducing noise and stuff that might not be immediately obvious ?
[23:01:09] <cradek> JT-Hardinge: I've gotta copy your setup then! that sounds great.
[23:01:47] <andypugh> alex_chally: Define "obvious"
[23:17:56] <JT-Hardinge> cradek: it is all going to be here http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,showcat/catid,40/lang,english/
[23:24:08] <JT-Hardinge> * JT-Hardinge wanders off to the deck to watch the chicken wings cook in the Big Easy
[23:35:35] <Fox_Muldr> Fox_Muldr is now known as Fox_M|afk