#emc | Logs for 2010-07-06

[00:03:54] <theorb> theorb is now known as theorbtwo
[00:26:34] <L84Supper> I miss all the fun stuff
[00:49:23] <JT-Hardinge> say goodnight Gracie
[05:05:58] <ries_> ries_ is now known as ries
[05:16:12] <Valen> why a debian sticker though
[05:16:18] <Valen> emc ships on ubuntu ;->
[05:34:12] <elmo40> but can run on anything with an RTAI kernel.
[05:34:22] <elmo40> and that version was made for Lenny
[05:34:36] <elmo40> oh, wait... which sticker? ;)
[07:42:02] <cpresser> Valen: because I run emc2 with debian, not ubuntu.
[07:42:12] <cpresser> sticker: http://ca.rstenpresser.de/~cpresser/tmp/emc2.5pre_lenny/
[07:48:12] <Valen> well laaah de dah mr debian "i'm do hardcore"
[07:48:13] <Valen> ;-p
[07:48:55] <awallin> isn't this better: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ?
[07:49:35] <Valen> s/do/so
[07:49:48] <Valen> toggle switches and a push button is better
[10:26:19] <SteveStallings> SteveStallings is now known as steves_logging
[10:33:38] <Fox_M|afk> Fox_M|afk is now known as Fox_Muldr
[12:00:05] <mrsun_> woohoo, time to test controller cabinet =)
[12:00:16] <mrsun_> atlest it didnt do smoke puffs when i connected power =)
[12:19:49] <MrSunshine__> what mode should the parport be in ? :)
[12:19:51] <MrSunshine__> ecp ? epp ?
[12:30:36] <jthornton> wee! my first segfault :)
[12:57:36] <jthornton> compiling and linking from the command line is fun :)
[13:00:47] <awallin_> using a makefile is just cheating
[13:05:52] <celeron55> and the really cool guys use the C program only as a reference for writing machine code directly
[13:06:18] <bricofoy> :)
[13:06:38] <jthornton> :)
[13:06:56] <theorbtwo> And the really, really cool guys spend their time doing useful things.
[13:06:58] <celeron55> http://www.geeks3d.com/public/jegx/200808/keyboard-for-real-coder.jpg
[13:08:09] <jthornton> LOL
[13:12:56] <elmo40> MrSunshine__: ecp works for me
[13:50:38] <elmo40> anyone know how i use regex to find 0 < x < 3000 ?
[13:52:40] <celeron55> http://www.regular-expressions.info/numericranges.html
[13:55:34] <cradek> elmo40: you are probably using the wrong tool for the job
[14:00:26] <elmo40> (\d|[12]\d{3}|3000) works
[14:07:16] <cradek> elmo40: 999
[14:07:23] <cradek> elmo40: 1.234
[14:09:41] <cradek> elmo40: 00000
[14:09:49] <elmo40> hrmm...
[14:10:10] <cradek> and did you mean 0 <= x <= 3000?
[14:10:21] <elmo40> no.
[14:10:41] <cradek> but you explicitly matched 3000
[14:11:12] <elmo40> ah yes. :P
[14:11:19] <elmo40> well, i can exclude that later.
[14:11:29] <elmo40> or change it to 2999
[14:14:41] <tom3p> jepler: the hal initialization >loadrt pci_8255 io="0xd800" dir="111111111111"< makes all the ports outputs.
[14:14:41] <tom3p> this string is my best guess how to init the device. any hints?
[14:18:03] <cradek> tom3p: did you find any docs at all?
[14:19:04] <cradek> heh http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01165433819
[14:28:16] <tom3p> cradek, i sent those docs a few years back when i first got the boards
[14:28:59] <tom3p> i dont see how those docs tie to the pic_8255.c file ( i cant even see where the command line is parsed in that file :/
[14:29:37] <tom3p> i use halrun to load it, and the format ^^^ suceeds in installing it.
[14:30:18] <tom3p> its just that the 'show pin' command doesnt relate well to the "101010...." port configuration
[14:30:44] <cradek> did you try 1,1,1,1,...?
[14:30:54] <cradek> since it's RTAPI_MP_ARRAY_INT
[14:30:55] <tom3p> not with commas
[14:31:57] <tom3p> will try that , thx
[15:10:31] <Srpski> Srpski is now known as Dannyboy
[15:12:44] <SteveStallings> SteveStallings is now known as steves_logging
[15:51:20] <tom3p> interesting linux cnc http://www.orchestracontrol.com
[15:54:37] <elmo40> there is a g-code enterpreter http://www.orchestracontrol.com/Portals/0/componentisito.png
[15:54:46] <elmo40> i still dont know 'what' it is...
[15:57:48] <elmo40> they have Bspline and NURBS Interpolation Modules. sounds interesting
[15:59:29] <elmo40> ahh, uses ubuntu 8.04
[15:59:45] <elmo40> First of all you have to install Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS (Hardy Heron) “PC (Intel x86)
[15:59:48] <elmo40> desktop CD” edition on the PC:
[15:59:56] <elmo40> Then you have to install OrchestraRTOS
[16:00:07] <elmo40> [from their installation manual]
[16:03:10] <tom3p> theres a live cd
[16:04:01] <tom3p> i was looking for realtime audio ( realtime analog sampling using cheap hdwr )
[16:04:33] <tom3p> live cd ( after reg ) http://www.orchestracontrol.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=http%3a%2f%2fwww.orchestracontrol.com%2fdownload%2fOrchestra_v3.0_LiveCD.iso&tabid=36&mid=586
[16:09:34] <Endeavour> Anyone here know of a reasonably corrosion resistant grade of stainless that isn't too difficult to machine?
[16:11:06] <elmo40> i tried to register.
[16:11:19] <elmo40> i didnt get an email with my 'verification code'
[16:11:39] <elmo40> Endeavour: if you soften it they all are easily machinable ;)
[16:11:52] <tom3p> elmo40, dunno mine worked fine
[16:12:03] <elmo40> well, that download worked
[16:12:19] <Endeavour> :P
[16:13:08] <elmo40> Endeavour: resistant to what? salt water? weather? caustic solution?
[16:14:13] <Endeavour> Air, really.
[16:14:27] <Endeavour> Something that won't readily rust from just being around in humid environments.
[16:15:32] <elmo40> is it possible to wipe it off from time to time?
[16:15:46] <elmo40> if so, 4xx series is Iron based. (most of them)
[16:15:46] <Endeavour> Not easily.
[16:15:49] <elmo40> they are easier to machine
[16:16:06] <Endeavour> It's a threaded rod in an assembly.
[16:16:11] <elmo40> oh :P
[16:18:12] <elmo40> u r making your own?
[16:18:28] <elmo40> threaded rod?
[16:18:40] <elmo40> cutting the thread on the lathe, or using a Die?
[16:22:35] <elmo40> the key is hrdness after heat treatment
[16:23:21] <elmo40> but they can all be machined with regular HSS tooling
[16:24:34] <elmo40> the problem with stainless, though, is that it isnt strong.
[16:24:57] <elmo40> threaded rod is a high demand in a small area (the tips of the thread)
[16:25:05] <elmo40> stainless is not a good option
[16:25:48] <elmo40> the ballscrews on my Mazak are not stainless.
[16:25:54] <elmo40> if unoiled they will rust
[16:26:14] <elmo40> but they are high carbon and case hardened to wear resistance and durability
[16:37:56] <tom3p> do any of the mesa firmwares have A/D? ( not D/A )
[16:38:07] <mrsun> hmm, how many ouputs does the parport have?
[16:38:16] <mrsun> im afraid im sinking to much throught my optocoupler :/
[16:38:24] <mrsun> but im not sure :P
[16:38:34] <bricofoy> add a buffer with some big mosfet
[16:38:59] <mrsun> if i even sink anything into it ... its a - resistor - optocoupler - optocoupler (ye i know two optocouplers but my bob had optos also, and the drivers) then to GND
[16:39:08] <bricofoy> parport has 12 outputs and 5 inputs in normal "out" config
[16:39:42] <mrsun> finaly got my control cabinet connected up =)
[16:39:57] <mrsun> and its niiice compared to having it all laying around in alu chips on the table by the mill :P
[16:40:07] <bricofoy> :)
[16:40:24] <mrsun> and alot more expensive then the last stuff :P
[16:40:56] <mrsun> ~ 783$ and thats just the drivers, bob, powersupply and cabinett :P
[16:41:07] <mrsun> this mill is starting to get expensive =)
[16:41:15] <elmo40> mrsun: pic?
[16:41:25] <mrsun> on the cabinett? :)
[16:41:31] <elmo40> anything
[16:41:39] <elmo40> we _love_ user photos/videos
[16:42:04] <bricofoy> someone knows about grafcet programming in EMC2 ?
[16:43:12] <bricofoy> ho can I make the link between states in the grafcet tree and output pins in HAL ?
[16:45:06] <pcw_home> tom3p: theres firmware to support SPI (A-Ds and D-As) but no driver support for EMC yet
[16:45:08] <pcw_home> it is possible to use one channel of SPI with the raw-read\raw-write facility of the HM2 driver however
[16:45:10] <mrsun> http://www.imagedonkey.com/show.php?img=32461_DSC00008.JPG.html <-- this is my first attempt at building somthing like this =)
[16:45:16] <mrsun> and it got room for one more driver =)
[16:46:19] <mrsun> non standard cables, no marking :/
[16:47:07] <bricofoy> also, editor bugs a lot : when you open it first time, you have all 4 buttons for add/insert/delete/modify, but once you select something, all freeze
[16:47:32] <mrsun> tho no display etc for it ...that will come for next mill =)
[16:47:34] <mrsun> touch screen etc :)
[16:47:47] <bricofoy> ans if you select modify, works but then you will only have the "modify" button until you completely restart EMC
[16:47:47] <mrsun> flat bedder im thinking =)
[16:48:16] <bricofoy> mrsun, I see we most have the same chinese PSU :)
[16:48:48] <JT-Hardinge> hmm, it is not my 7i37 card... wonder where it is broke between the turret encoder and the 7i37
[16:48:50] <mrsun> bricofoy, aye .. they are quite nice
[16:48:54] <mrsun> delivers 9.7A so =)
[16:49:20] <mrsun> but i want to ramp the voltage up to 50V (according to the way that gecko calculates it its the most i can pump into my motors)
[16:49:42] <mrsun> those drivers etc compared to the other ones upped my speed and strenght of the mill with like 400% =)
[16:50:16] <bricofoy> O_o
[16:50:38] <mrsun> and made the motors totaly quiet =)
[16:50:42] <mrsun> when idle
[16:51:21] <bricofoy> you use gecko drivers ?
[16:51:33] <mrsun> nah
[16:51:41] <tom3p> pcw_home, thanks will look at HM2 & serial. sound like i'd need to hang an A/D to serial thing onto the M5i20
[16:51:42] <mrsun> but i figured they go by the mH etc of the motors
[16:51:51] <mrsun> to calculate maximum voltage for the windings
[16:52:05] <bricofoy> ok
[16:52:23] <bricofoy> so what are your drivers ?
[16:52:42] <mrsun> MSD980 i think they are called, aparently they are branded to whatever company that buys them from the makers =)
[16:52:49] <mrsun> max 80V, 7.8A =)
[16:53:08] <bricofoy> ok, so chinese made ?
[16:53:13] <mrsun> bricofoy, i guess :/
[16:53:26] <mrsun> found them everywhere after i bought them from england :P
[16:53:31] <bricofoy> just like mine :)
[16:53:56] <bricofoy> but mines are smaller, 40V, 5A, and only half-step
[16:54:07] <mrsun> mine do down to 256 micro =)
[16:54:18] <mrsun> almost the worst one that motion control products had
[16:54:24] <mrsun> they had one that you just plug into the mains for power for them
[16:54:34] <mrsun> but they would have upped the price alot, i was realy tempted =)
[16:54:51] <mrsun> http://www.motioncontrolproducts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1026&products_id=39
[16:56:57] <tom3p> pcw_home, MAX1242 10 bit SPI ADC 10bits is like 0.1% bit rez with 0 to 100V input , cool, 8uS max conversion time
[16:57:29] <tom3p> er like 0.1V rez
[16:57:45] <SWPadnos> same thing, when 100% = 100V :)
[16:58:36] <bricofoy> so no one has any experience in grafcet programming with EMC2 ?
[16:58:58] <JT-Hardinge> hmm, something liked eating solder... about 1/4" of a trace is gone
[16:59:07] <JT-Hardinge> yep
[16:59:21] <SWPadnos> bricofoy, it doesn't look like it
[16:59:38] <JT-Hardinge> somehow coolant got in there past my new gaskets...
[17:02:40] <tom3p> grafcet is as popular as forth
[17:03:16] <bricofoy> but so easyer to understand than ladder :/
[17:03:38] <bricofoy> grafcet was popular in france when I was at school
[17:03:58] <bricofoy> still in use here
[17:04:22] <bricofoy> but the first time I saw ladder was with EMC...
[17:06:04] <elmo40> mrsun: nice and clean :)
[17:08:09] <mrsun> elmo40, thanks =)
[17:10:40] <mrsun> hopefully it wil work cleanly also =)
[17:16:49] <bricofoy> I think I will convert my grafcet to a lot of Dlatch directly in HAL
[17:17:19] <bricofoy> not so fun to do, but...
[17:24:26] <pcw_home> tom3p: there are many SPI ADCs from ~6 to ~24 bits resolution
[17:26:31] <pcw_home> we use Analog Devices parts a lot
[17:26:37] <JT-Hardinge> hmm, fixing that open trace and 2, 4, 6, 8 work... 1, 3, 5, 7 all show up as 7
[17:27:16] <JT-Hardinge> must be a short somewhere
[17:31:08] <pcw_home> Would an oil based coolant cause corrosion?
[17:31:09] <pcw_home> (doesn't take much moisture to cause electrolytic corrosion on electrical circuits)
[17:31:11] <pcw_home> ( we learned this when we first started business and water washed cards with Lithium cells - it caused board shorts)
[17:31:44] <JT-Hardinge> it's a water soluble coolant
[17:31:57] <JT-Hardinge> so 90% water
[17:32:27] <pcw_home> Ah bad news for energized circuitry
[17:33:43] <pcw_home> my experience is it can cause both opens and shorts if PCBs run "under water"
[17:34:22] <JT-Hardinge> the PCB was moist but not under water but enough wet to mess it up
[17:34:39] <pcw_home> yep, plating and deplating at once
[17:35:32] <JT-Hardinge> I think it has something to do with chip that converts the input from the magnetic reed switch to output lines
[17:36:36] <JT-Hardinge> as I pass the magnet over each switch the output lines change but not to the proper value for all of them
[17:37:34] <pcw_home> I'd Ohm out for shorts or other opens as well (maybe back illuminate the card)
[17:37:36] <pcw_home> then wash and bake the card
[17:39:59] <JT-Hardinge> how hot?
[17:40:23] <pcw_home> Bake to 85C should not hurt anything
[17:41:13] <JT-Hardinge> Ok, thanks pcw_home
[17:41:32] <JT-Hardinge> oh, what do you wash it with?
[17:41:50] <pcw_home> Wasn't the original encoder encapsulated? Maybe the seals alway leak a little
[17:42:22] <JT-Hardinge> yes the original was rubber encased
[17:42:27] <pcw_home> I just wash with detergent and water, rinse well and bake
[17:42:31] <JT-Hardinge> ok
[17:43:19] <pcw_home> Maye after its working a spray conformal coat of some kind is in order
[17:44:19] <pcw_home> (maybe)
[17:48:06] <JT-Hardinge> I think I see where the coating leaked into that area :)
[17:48:13] <JT-Hardinge> coating/coolant
[17:50:42] <JT-Hardinge> * JT-Hardinge heads to the other shop to finish this job on the manual lathe
[17:51:16] <mrsun> hmm maybe have a bilt in computer with usb transfer of programs to it in next cabinett =)
[17:51:26] <mrsun> plug in a usb stick or whatever and touch screen, no external computer
[17:51:36] <mrsun> would be nice as strawberry pie =)
[18:08:26] <seb_kuzminsky> for a "light press fit" of a dowel into a cylindrical hole, should I make the hole diameter about .5 thou smaller than the dowel diameter?
[18:09:05] <cradek> what material and how thick?
[18:09:21] <seb_kuzminsky> the hole is in Al, the dowel will probably be steel of some sort
[18:09:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i need the dowel to stick up less than .200 above the hole
[18:09:47] <seb_kuzminsky> the Al plate is .750 thick
[18:09:55] <cradek> what size dowel?
[18:10:01] <seb_kuzminsky> 1/4" nominal
[18:10:50] <cradek> I think a dowel pin reamer for that size is .2497 (you are right that's half thousandth under, since dowels are .0002 over)
[18:11:36] <seb_kuzminsky> ok cool :-)
[18:11:48] <seb_kuzminsky> a mcmaster order is in my future
[18:11:49] <cradek> http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=66&PARTPG=INLMK32
[18:11:53] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks chris
[18:11:56] <cradek> actually they are .2495
[18:12:11] <cradek> so .0007 under
[18:12:35] <alex_chally> i need a nice set of over unders in 1/8, 1/4 and like 1/2
[18:12:53] <alex_chally> we have crappy ones made in I think bosnia or something in the shop
[18:12:57] <alex_chally> they are... not so great
[18:13:39] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: get the .2495 and .251 both, if you want to make things that align with each other
[18:13:50] <alex_chally> ++
[18:14:27] <alex_chally> make sure everything is really clean too when you press them in
[18:14:41] <alex_chally> a bit of swarf in that hole will deform your aluminium plate way before you notice it happening
[18:14:50] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: the .2495 for mor-or-less permanently press-fitting the dowel to the first part, then the .251 for making a slightly free fit for the second part?
[18:14:56] <alex_chally> seb_kuzminsky, yes
[18:15:00] <cradek> yep
[18:15:06] <seb_kuzminsky> kthx guys!
[18:15:10] <alex_chally> seb_kuzminsky, frequently refered to as an "Over, Under" reamer set
[18:15:19] <alex_chally> as one is slighty over nominal size, and one is slightly under
[18:15:40] <cradek> you'd drill them both "D" and then ream both with the DP reamer, then ream just the free one with the OS reamer
[18:15:52] <seb_kuzminsky> on the page cradek linked, the undersize reamer ("U/S") is smaller than the dowel pin reamer ("D/P") by an extra half thou
[18:16:04] <cradek> and always do all drilling and DP reaming with the parts clamped together
[18:16:52] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: that might be appropriate for a tighter fit in thin material?
[18:16:55] <alex_chally> cradek, huh? you mean the parts that you are trying to fixture in the first place?
[18:17:10] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, lunch
[18:17:11] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: also get *good* "D" drills if you want any chance of this working :-)
[18:17:24] <alex_chally> * alex_chally personally suggests a screw machine length drill
[18:17:33] <seb_kuzminsky> right, good sharp, short tools for this makes sense
[18:17:39] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks again guys :-)
[18:17:40] <alex_chally> i love them stubby little drills...
[18:17:40] <cradek> alex_chally: I'm thinking of parts that you can disassemble and then put back together
[18:18:01] <cradek> yes you want screw length, 135 degree split point if at all possible
[18:19:35] <cradek> alex_chally: if I was making the parts separate I'd do more than .251 O/S if I hoped for them to actually fit together... YMMV :-)
[18:20:20] <alex_chally> cradek, I guess it depends on what tolerances you need, and how you are making the fixture
[18:20:26] <cradek> yep
[18:21:23] <cradek> but if just making a set of parts that go together, if you drill and ream undersize with them together, it will work even if you do it on a drill press
[18:21:54] <alex_chally> one of the projects we had to do in class was drill and ream a bolt hole circle under sized using a rotary table and then oversized using a DRO with bolt hole software in it
[18:22:11] <alex_chally> +- probably .0005 on hole location for that project
[18:22:23] <alex_chally> I don't know how I managed to do it correctly the first time
[18:23:31] <archivist> lucky the rotary table was up to the job too
[18:23:53] <cradek> class assignments of the form "let's do this the worst possible way and see if we can make it work out anyway" are funny
[18:24:12] <alex_chally> cradek, It was mostly a project to learn how to use the rotary table
[18:24:31] <alex_chally> one of maybe 2 or 3 the entire time that don't end in having a nice tool to use
[18:24:47] <alex_chally> most of them are making tap handles, center punches, V blocks
[18:24:56] <alex_chally> a toolmakers vise is the last one
[18:25:04] <alex_chally> square to .00025"
[18:25:10] <alex_chally> that one was a bitch
[18:25:25] <alex_chally> so much time mincing tenths on a surface grinder
[18:25:48] <cradek> square and a certain size, or just square?
[18:26:00] <alex_chally> cradek, welllllllll :-p
[18:26:16] <cradek> haha :-)
[18:26:26] <alex_chally> cradek, the problem was machine time
[18:26:27] <cradek> just measure and adjust the print at the end! time-honored.
[18:26:48] <alex_chally> we only have two surface grinders at the school, and the prints called for some crazy amount of stock to be left behind before HT
[18:26:58] <alex_chally> liiiike .015"
[18:27:33] <cradek> ouch, that's a lot of grinding
[18:27:47] <alex_chally> and to grind .015" of hardened 4140 off every side of that vise would have taken a large amount of time on one of the two machines, and there was a large line to use them
[18:28:21] <alex_chally> so in the interest of getting them done quick enough to not be a dick I just used our normal tolerance for fractional dimensions (+-1/64")
[18:28:27] <alex_chally> so close, but not dead on
[18:28:41] <alex_chally> obviously having something square and useful was a more bigger deal
[18:29:59] <alex_chally> and it is shiny! although interestingly enough I donm't have any pictures of it completed up
[18:39:40] <frallzor> using a countersink tool for milling was a sucess
[18:46:02] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: these are the ones I use: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=319-0121
[19:26:44] <micges> today I had weird problem with atemga88, external emf noise hang up ucontroller even if it has watchdog enabled
[19:26:44] <micges> anyone know how could it happen?
[19:37:46] <SWPadnos> micges, do you have the reset line connected to anything?
[19:41:55] <micges> reset line is routed to programmer socket
[19:42:55] <SWPadnos> is the programmer attached when the hangups occur?
[19:42:59] <micges> no
[19:43:27] <SWPadnos> ok, then you should add at least a resistor to the reset line, pulling up to 5V I think
[19:43:38] <SWPadnos> and a capacitor to ground is nice too
[19:44:29] <SWPadnos> maybe a 4.7k or 10k pullup and a 0.1-2.2 uF cap
[19:44:44] <micges> thanks I'll try
[19:44:55] <SWPadnos> with short legs :)
[19:45:22] <micges> don't fully understand what issue on that line can cause this
[19:45:33] <micges> SWPadnos: will do
[19:45:50] <SWPadnos> the reset line is used to put the chip into programming mode, as well as actually resetting the chip
[19:46:12] <SWPadnos> if it's flying all over the place, it's hard to tell whether the micro should work or not
[19:46:33] <micges> I see thanks
[19:46:42] <SWPadnos> sure. (hope it works)
[19:46:51] <micges> will see tomorrow
[19:48:10] <micges> I'm taking over uc programming here, there is so MUCH to learn
[19:48:42] <micges> even if it's few little boards :)
[19:49:13] <SWPadnos> heh
[19:49:29] <SWPadnos> you could also get the datasheet from Atmel, that tells you what all the pins do
[19:49:36] <SWPadnos> and the errata sheet (if there is one)
[19:50:48] <micges> I'm reading avr book but there is too little about hardware things
[19:50:52] <archivist> anybody done spiral bevel generation in gcode ?
[19:52:53] <archivist> may need to tackle http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2010/2010_07_06_MOSI/IMG_0754.JPG
[19:56:56] <frallzor> sweetums! last piece of alu tomorrow!
[19:57:30] <frallzor> some quick milling and off the pieces go for some last machining and mounting of bearing
[20:04:48] <cradek> archivist: what is it?
[20:05:24] <archivist> part of a 1930's mechanical computer
[20:05:55] <archivist> the other pic in the dir is the torque amplifier
[20:05:55] <cradek> one of the wartime projectile calculators?
[20:06:09] <archivist> before the war but yes
[20:06:22] <cradek> neat
[20:06:27] <cradek> those were pretty amazing
[20:08:19] <archivist> one of the spare integrators has worn gears
[21:37:58] <JT-Hardinge> It's amazing how if you lean on the E-Stop while your crawling about the machine everything does what it is suppose to do and does nothing...
[23:12:15] <ries> JT-Hardinge: I spend one day 10 minutes checking all the wires myself... power supply yada yada... turned out my e-stop was pressed in :D
[23:13:08] <JT-Hardinge> I need to wire up a light or something to the dang BRB :)
[23:14:44] <frallzor> * frallzor has a light indicating when the BRB has been pressed and needs resetting
[23:15:50] <JT-Hardinge> :P
[23:17:27] <JT-Hardinge> shoot, I need to make another 5/8" to 1/2" three hole bushing
[23:24:25] <JT-Hardinge> KimK: what are you building out of the castings?
[23:24:35] <JT-Hardinge> aluminum?
[23:32:39] <Fox_Muldr> Fox_Muldr is now known as Fox_M|afk
[23:40:03] <JT-Hardinge> * JT-Hardinge notes it is time to fire up the barbie
[23:40:14] <JT-Hardinge> and stop trying to make parts tonigh
[23:40:20] <JT-Hardinge> tonight