#emc | Logs for 2010-03-06

[00:00:04] <andypugh> It occurred to me on holiday last week that with the ssh and vnc iPhone clients I could, in theory, fire up my CNC and machine stuff from a foreign country.....
[00:00:14] <Valen> I would like it to plug into the camera module, there is a thing in the facebook app so you can take pictures and they are put direct onto facebook
[00:00:20] <andypugh> What could possibly go wrong?
[00:00:30] <Valen> I was hoping for the same kind of integration with youtube
[00:00:53] <Valen> heh andypugh, I ssh into our CnC all the time to do updates and the like, its about 20km from me though
[00:00:59] <Valen> makes me nervous every time
[00:01:11] <Valen> I want to put a web cam up there to keep an eye on things
[00:01:15] <andypugh> Nokia N900 has an Xterm as standard
[00:02:52] <ds3> jogging over a high latency link could be interesting
[00:05:07] <Valen> heh
[00:05:22] <Valen> I'd suggest doing it in MDI mode ;->
[00:05:50] <Valen> we go up to the house and leave the CnC running often ;-> we VNC to the box and see what its up to
[00:05:58] <Valen> yes I think I will stick a web cam on there
[00:06:35] <andypugh> That's my approach too. The house is a lot warmer than the garage.
[00:08:34] <Valen> cooler in our case ;->
[00:09:27] <clytle374> I can read a encoder now, and on the homebrew rtai SMP kernel too. 64 doesn't read yet, might be doomed.
[00:13:25] <andypugh> Night all
[00:13:56] <Casainho> celeron55: thanks for Heeckscad update to gerber2gcode!
[00:14:30] <celeron55> ummm... what update?
[00:16:09] <Casainho> celeron55: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/issues/detail?id=231
[00:16:50] <Casainho> celeron55: was not you? http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/source/detail?r=1066
[00:18:04] <celeron55> i haven't done anything to that in a long while
[00:18:18] <celeron55> "Author: David.Nicholls.homeip.net"
[00:21:49] <Casainho> celeron55: I thought it was you. Ok. But you did work on Heeckscad, right?
[00:21:49] <celeron55> i have done something, at some point, yes
[00:21:49] <celeron55> but not in a while
[23:09:36] <ChanServ> [#emc] "This is the #emc channel - talk related to the Enhanced Machine Controller and general machining. Website: http://www.linuxcnc.org/, wiki at http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/"
[23:09:51] <pfred1> logger_emc leave my trees alone!
[23:10:05] <ChanServ> [#emc] "This is the #emc channel - talk related to the Enhanced Machine Controller and general machining. Website: http://www.linuxcnc.org/, wiki at http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/"
[23:10:11] <Jymmm> logger_emc: help
[23:10:38] <Jymmm> logger_emc: stop
[23:12:26] <logger_emc> * logger_emc is logging
[23:12:30] <pfred1> I feel like I hit the lottery today
[23:12:49] <pfred1> I didn't know if any of this junk was going to work or not
[23:13:10] <logger_emc> * logger_emc is already logging
[23:13:14] <Jymmm> pfred1: plug it into 440VAC, your dreams will come true
[23:13:31] <pfred1> Jymmm all I have here is single phase 220
[23:14:50] <Jymmm> got one of these for $2 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94185
[23:15:22] <Jymmm> this for $1 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45852&Submit=Go
[23:15:57] <Jymmm> and sold $65 worth of crap...er High quality merchadise
[23:17:37] <owhite> Hey folks. I use release pre-2.2, with ubuntu 6.06, if I upgrade to ubuntu 8, what version of emc2 would I use?
[23:17:44] <pfred1> Jymmm i had one of those torches it leaked
[23:18:10] <Jymmm> pfred1: Yeah, I don't expect much for $2
[23:18:33] <andypugh> owhite: Any reason not to go to Ubuntu 9?
[23:18:37] <pfred1> Jymmm I think it takes metric O rings i didn't have any in my kit that fit it
[23:18:51] <owhite> I am happy to go to 9.
[23:18:55] <pfred1> andypugh EMC works on Ubuntu 9 now?
[23:19:17] <andypugh> I might be confused.
[23:19:42] <owhite> basically I'm looking into upgrading emc2, and I'm trying to get an idea of how different 2.2 will be with more current releases.
[23:19:50] <pfred1> I donno this machine is 9.1 and i don't see much difference between it and the BDI 8.04
[23:20:27] <Jymmm> pfred1: Um, BDI is EMC1, not EMC2
[23:20:29] <pfred1> owhite is you home dir on a separate partition?
[23:20:51] <pfred1> Jymmm well whatever i downloaded a month or so ago
[23:20:53] <owhite> not sure.
[23:21:39] <pfred1> its ubuntu Hardy
[23:21:47] <andypugh> owhite: Sorry, I was indeed confused. The current LiveCD install is EMC 2.3 on Ubuntu 8.04
[23:22:34] <pfred1> owhite with home on a seperate partition it makes changing distros a little easier sometimes
[23:22:49] <andypugh> I think you will find the upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.5 to be worthwhile.
[23:23:44] <owhite> okay so I know its a vague question but could anyone shout out if I upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.5 will my previous .ini files still work?
[23:23:56] <pfred1> I have 2.3.5
[23:24:32] <andypugh> I am fairly sure that the configs will work.
[23:24:33] <pfred1> so sayeth help about in axis at least ...
[23:25:19] <alex_joni> you need to make some changes so they still run
[23:25:34] <pfred1> alex_joni oh those filthy developers!
[23:25:36] <micges> owhite: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING
[23:25:39] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.3
[23:25:39] <owhite> alex_joni: was that directed to me?
[23:25:53] <alex_joni> owhite: yes
[23:26:40] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING#Changes_between_2_2_x_and_2_3_x
[23:27:45] <owhite> ok.
[23:28:52] <owhite> does anyone know if I before I install ubuntu 8.04 and emc2.3, is there a way i could preserve my old kernal?
[23:29:13] <owhite> put it on a dvd or something?
[23:29:22] <pfred1> owhite cp ?
[23:30:14] <owhite> pfred1: I'm not sure I could just reinstall after I wiped it with cp.
[23:30:25] <owhite> er, reinstall with cp.
[23:30:28] <pfred1> owhite you'd have to update grub
[23:30:51] <pfred1> owhite but pretty much slapping it into the /boot dir oh and copy your modules too
[23:30:52] <owhite> oh yeah grub lets you have more than one kernals doesnt it.
[23:31:04] <pfred1> owhite you can have as many as you like
[23:31:13] <alex_joni> owhite: what distro do you have installed right now?
[23:31:45] <owhite> ubuntu 6.06. emc pre-2.2
[23:31:49] <alex_joni> sorry.. I just saw, 6.06
[23:31:58] <alex_joni> you can get emc2_2.3 for 6.06
[23:32:11] <alex_joni> no need to reinstall the OS, or change kernels
[23:32:43] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.3
[23:33:05] <owhite> yeah well I started thinking about upgrading because I could find any drivers for a webcam in my ubuntu distro, and there's all these docs saying that ubuntu has them installed.
[23:33:10] <pfred1> owhite I mean it is a little more complicated than just copying the kernel but not much but yeah stick with what you have and just upgrade the emc
[23:34:34] <alex_joni> owhite: got a spare HDD?
[23:34:54] <owhite> hey alex, that's a good idea. I could just plug in a new HDD.
[23:34:56] <alex_joni> take out the current one, plug in a new one, install using latest LiveCD+emc2
[23:35:12] <alex_joni> if it's working ok, just copy data over from the old one
[23:35:17] <pfred1> can even make the old one a slave then cp files over you need
[23:35:20] <alex_joni> if it doesn't.. scrap it and start over
[23:35:21] <pfred1> its what I do a lot
[23:35:52] <owhite> right. I like that idea. So the LiveCD+emc2 has the rt-linux handled? I remember last time I did this I had to go through those steps by hand for some reason.
[23:35:58] <Jymmm> Or just use TCNC, OS+TCNC fit on a single FDD, problem solved.
[23:36:06] <Jymmm> NEXT!
[23:36:11] <pfred1> owhite but on your new HDD make /home its own partition then changing distros etc is easy
[23:36:14] <andypugh> Yes, the LiveCD Just Works
[23:36:30] <owhite> thanks. very useful suggestions.
[23:36:31] <pfred1> Jymmm nothing beats Toms rtbt
[23:36:43] <Jymmm> pfred1: ?
[23:36:51] <pfred1> Jymmm when I fired up emacs off it I was like no way
[23:36:59] <pfred1> Jymmm its a floppy distro of linux
[23:37:17] <Jymmm> pfred1: LOL, no.... MS-DOS plus Turbo CNC
[23:37:22] <owhite> I had my whole system mothballed because I moved and now I'm setting it back up again.
[23:37:39] <pfred1> owhite yeah I set my cnc dreams aside for a while when I moved
[23:37:47] <pfred1> like 4 years
[23:38:15] <owhite> for those of you who are hanging by your thumbs waiting for me to get my laser system back on line can read my blog: http://laseroflove.wordpress.com/
[23:38:32] <pfred1> owhite http://laseroflove.wordpress.com/ cute!
[23:38:49] <pfred1> owhite I'll be happy if I can get a felt tipped pen to write
[23:38:51] <owhite> I have many strengths, cuteness is clearly one of them.
[23:40:18] <Jymmm> owhite: You're so precious
[23:40:31] <Jymmm> </grandma_voice>
[23:40:44] <pfred1> Jymmm have to do the cheek pinch too!
[23:41:44] <pfred1> wow they're close to me md
[23:46:48] <robotito> owhite, cutting capacity, materials?
[23:46:56] <pfred1> robotito 18:41 -!- owhite [~owhite@c-68-49-157-167.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
[23:47:11] <andypugh> owhite logged off
[23:47:48] <andypugh> I think he was frightened off by Jymmmmmmmm and pfred
[23:48:19] <pfred1> andypugh well I'm stoked today first time I got hardware running off EMC
[23:48:20] <elmo40> Jymmm: did the links i posted for you give you some better pricing?
[23:58:55] <Jymmm> elmo40: didn't get a chance to look
[23:59:36] <Jymmm> andypugh: wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last =)