#emc | Logs for 2009-12-20

[00:04:16] <jthornton> LawrenceG: cool
[00:07:18] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: It
[00:07:41] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: It's MUCH cheaeper just to buy a scrabble game =)
[00:07:51] <Jymmm> lol
[00:07:53] <lilalinux> lilalinux is now known as lilalinux_away
[00:08:01] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: you got a cnc router?
[00:08:34] <Jymmm> oh 4"... I missed that part! LOL
[00:08:41] <LawrenceG> Jymmm, lathe mill... shoptask
[00:09:02] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: B I G A S S S C R A B B L E B O A R D
[00:09:08] <LawrenceG> I can mill about a 9x9" area
[00:09:47] <LawrenceG> that would be fun.... use the driveway as a board
[00:09:58] <Jymmm> basketball court
[00:10:38] <LawrenceG> the the router to an indoor gym floor
[00:10:48] <LawrenceG> take
[00:10:50] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: ROTF, that works
[00:10:59] <Jymmm> inlay
[00:12:01] <LawrenceG> I need a bigger machine3x5' would be a nice size without going to a monster garage eating 4x8 size
[00:12:53] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: Well, if you think about it, 4x8 is just a bed, Make it like a murphy bed in the garage
[00:14:04] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: nice job on the 4" carvings btw
[00:14:31] <LawrenceG> vcarve generated the gcode
[00:14:47] <Jymmm> ah, cool
[01:14:03] <Dave911_> Dave911_ is now known as Dave911
[03:32:19] <MattyMatt> LawrenceG, or make the bed just above floor height with a ramp, so you can store crap on the bed
[03:33:09] <MattyMatt> * MattyMatt car sized one, in his imaginary garage
[03:33:58] <MattyMatt> tell the missus it's a car wash
[03:34:29] <MattyMatt> then mill the roof off her car \o/
[03:38:16] <MattyMatt> a garage sized gantry would be handy as a crane. that's how I'm trying to sell the idea to a friend whose garage I'm supposed to be building
[03:42:48] <MattyMatt> you'd need some kind of telescopic Z, or a very high ceiling
[05:58:26] <Jymmm> BP 9x42 w/ DRO http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/1517914858.html
[11:05:36] <lilalinux_away> lilalinux_away is now known as lilalinux
[11:21:37] <yoyoek1> I must be proud! http://yoyo.ghost.pl/fb/?&tag=mGcodeGenerator&id=1170&subPage=detale it look like you have a moment of time:)
[14:01:35] <tom3p> looks good yoyoek1
[15:52:31] <Jymmm> You all need to get a REAL hobby, like this... http://www.jtrg.org/Photoalbum/Members/AF4KK/AF4KK-Project%20Car/
[15:53:13] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Coem on man, you need to start doin some real mods like that
[16:06:59] <cradek> the antenna wires go in the sunroof - what does he do when it rains?
[16:08:37] <Jymmm> lol, nfc
[16:08:57] <jt-plasma> drive faster
[16:09:19] <archivist_emc> not that he can see where he is going
[16:10:02] <Jymmm> My gf is gonna freak... For a stocking stuffer, I got her the WORLDS LARGEST Reeses peanut butter cup. Package of two, each one weights 8 oz
[16:10:50] <Jymmm> these things are huge
[16:11:28] <Jymmm> 1" thick, and 4"diameter
[16:12:14] <archivist_emc> never mind the length feel the width
[16:12:22] <skunkworks> sweet! ;)
[16:13:33] <Jymmm> They dont sell flavored insuline, do they?
[16:14:15] <Jymmm> becaue between the 1lb PB cups and the chocolate orange, she's gonna goin into sugar overload
[16:14:58] <Jymmm> og, that Colt has hydralics too
[16:15:34] <Jymmm> I think that's to support the frickin trunk load of batteries to support all those radios
[16:19:36] <jt-plasma> I found a 3" wood screw in my rear tire of the Honda yesterday, much to my surprise it didn't leak air.
[16:24:54] <archivist_emc> jt-plasma, bit like yours ? 170421691815
[16:25:07] <krushia> krushia is now known as russshfan
[16:25:14] <russshfan> russshfan is now known as krushia
[16:25:50] <jt-plasma> archivist_emc: ?
[16:26:08] <krushia> krushia is now known as russshfan
[16:26:20] <archivist_emc> ebay hardinge
[16:26:38] <russshfan> russshfan is now known as ken6969696
[16:26:43] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: he's tryng to be cute and not give the full link
[16:26:47] <ken6969696> ken6969696 is now known as krushia
[16:27:09] <jt-plasma> brb
[16:27:10] <Jymmm> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170421691815&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38%26_nkw%3D170421691815%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
[16:28:26] <archivist_emc> fleabay links vary depending on where you are and login status, item id does not
[16:31:22] <jt-plasma> back
[16:31:27] <jt-plasma> what was the link
[16:31:58] <archivist_emc> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170421691815&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
[16:32:59] <jt-plasma> no, that is a very different on
[16:33:01] <jt-plasma> one
[16:34:20] <jt-plasma> same controller
[16:34:21] <archivist_emc> price seems ok but I cant afford to play
[16:34:38] <jt-plasma> too far for me :)
[16:35:13] <jt-plasma> even better it runs and has a tailstock
[16:36:52] <skunkworks> Jymmm: will this fit in your garage?
[16:36:54] <skunkworks> http://cgi.ebay.com/WoW-KITAMURA-MyCENTER-0-Spark-Changer-2-Pallet-VMC-NR_W0QQitemZ110471465971QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Mills?hash=item19b89ccbf3
[16:38:56] <Jymmm> skunkworks: I can make it fit =)
[16:39:38] <Jymmm> aw crap. 220, 3ph
[16:39:56] <archivist_emc> at that price it does not have to work :)
[16:42:25] <jt-plasma> Jymmm: what's wrong with 220, 3ph
[16:46:06] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: lack there of
[16:47:50] <jt-plasma> make it
[16:47:58] <jt-plasma> that's what I do
[16:49:18] <Jymmm> Well, to be honest... I'd much rather have a laser than anything else. It's what I've wanted for years and nothing has really changed.
[16:50:00] <Jymmm> Everything I come up with would be better suited to having a laser
[16:50:09] <lilalinux> lilalinux is now known as lilalinux_away
[16:51:39] <Jymmm> I need 48" width with passthru
[16:52:29] <Jymmm> someone on here was getting a 15". wiating to see how it goes when he gets it
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[17:48:57] <lilalinux_away> lilalinux_away is now known as lilalinux
[18:29:44] <ries> hey all, I am trying to patch a linux kernel (2.6.24) with a RTAI patch from 2.6.23 uswing i386, but I get can't find patch file to patch ....... ---a/atch/i386 etc
[18:30:20] <eric_unterhausen> that's gonna happen if the kernel and patch are not same version
[18:30:22] <ries> can't I patch a 2.6.24kernel with RTAI 2.6.23 patch, or should I use a x86 architecture? according to my system I have i386
[18:31:02] <celeron55_> i once tried the x86 patch with emc, but it didn't work
[18:31:03] <ries> eric_unterhausen: so should I use x86 then instead of i386?
[18:31:46] <ries> I wonder how ubuntu was compiled then, I don't see a RTAI patch for a 2.6.24 kernel for a i386 architecture
[18:32:42] <eric_unterhausen> ries: you have a 386????
[18:32:57] <eric_unterhausen> uname -a gives what output?
[18:34:02] <ries> uname -a gives me Linux EMC2 2.6.24-16-rtai
[18:34:13] <ries> some more stuff and ends with i686 GNU/Linux
[18:34:39] <ries> dpkg --print-architecture gives me i386
[18:35:27] <eric_unterhausen> apparently the i686 stuff is smart enough to downgrade to your hardware, or else you have more of a processor than you think
[18:35:57] <eric_unterhausen> why are you building the same kernel over again?
[18:36:18] <ries> I have a P4 mobile
[18:36:21] <eric_unterhausen> I think you can download the source packages for emc and build a custom kernel that's already been patched
[18:36:53] <eric_unterhausen> kernel configs have all sorts of different processors available
[18:37:21] <ries> still I wonder how the EMC team could patch a kernel for 2.6.24 with RTAI
[18:37:48] <eric_unterhausen> you can do it, it just requires looking at what failed and seeing if it matters to the build
[18:37:51] <eric_unterhausen> I've done it
[18:38:07] <ries> I don't understand why it comes up with the a/ and b/ directories...
[18:38:20] <ries> x86 patches apply fine
[18:38:50] <eric_unterhausen> use those then
[18:38:55] <eric_unterhausen> you don't have a 386
[18:38:59] <ries> I am rusty on the subject though, last kernel I compiled was a 2.4 kernel...
[18:39:01] <eric_unterhausen> it's at least a 486
[18:39:11] <ries> I think so to...
[18:39:19] <ries> I am just confused with all the naming then
[18:39:23] <eric_unterhausen> but actually, it's a 686
[18:39:32] <ries> but still don't understand why dpkg returns me i386 :s
[18:39:34] <eric_unterhausen> I have no idea why dpkg gives you the result it does
[18:39:40] <ries> agreed
[18:40:00] <eric_unterhausen> who knows how they derive that result
[18:40:52] <yoyoek1> helo
[18:42:01] <celeron55_> i386 is just the base architecture
[18:42:17] <celeron55_> debian i386 works on i386's and newer x86's
[18:43:01] <ries> ok
[18:43:18] <yoyoek1> haha:) tool shape compensation almost ready:) for interested in the subject:) http://yoyo.ghost.pl/fb/?subPage=na_tapecie&tag=tool% 20shape% 20compensation &
[18:52:56] <tom3p> yoyoek1: nice! what cutters do you use on FRP? it dulls high speed (HSS) very quickly because of the glass threads.
[18:58:53] <ries> yoyoek1: you use blender for your 3D stuff?
[19:04:49] <L84Supper> ries : http://neo-technical.wikispaces.com/emc2-ubuntu he keeps up with all the toolchain pain
[19:04:58] <L84Supper> if it helps
[19:05:22] <ries> L84Supper: I need to understand the gCode generation portion still... will check that link
[19:05:35] <yoyoek1> ries: http://yoyo.ghost.pl/fb/?subPage=na_tapecie&tag=3d%20cam&
[19:05:44] <ries> things are comiling now though... I wonder where it ends up with
[19:46:58] <yoyoek1> and. I tell you, gentlemen, that it was done full-scale test. elements were clamped so that after applying the appropriate weight to hammer wpasowa0142y as it was planned:) is a wonderfully
[19:49:29] <yoyoek1> to znaczy 017ce pasuje idealnie
[19:49:39] <yoyoek1> This means that it fits perfectly
[19:59:21] <dimas> rozumiem
[19:59:52] <yoyoek1> translator or from poland ?
[20:00:03] <dimas> russia
[20:00:29] <dimas> close to russian word
[20:00:44] <yoyoek1> almost like a neighbor:)
[20:00:54] <dimas> yep :)
[20:01:44] <yoyoek1> in russia, it is winter already so advanced as in poland? is no longer with us after -20 `C
[20:02:26] <dimas> last week were cold about -20 -25 C
[20:02:36] <micges> yoyoek1: w Polsce przy gruncie bylo -28C
[20:02:52] <dimas> :)
[20:04:45] <yoyoek1> how cool is it to me is wrong. I like how it is so after the 30 35 `C in Plus, of course. with 5 or so days a year in this climate zone for the year: /
[20:05:37] <yoyoek1> the automatic translator something to me here writes crap: P
[20:07:10] <dimas> you using translator to write here?
[20:08:08] <yoyoek1> yes. no writes by traslator this grammar is rather weak. and as I write this I am doing the hand of typos.
[20:08:40] <yoyoek1> o.O
[20:10:40] <dimas> ok
[20:10:45] <yoyoek1> This is almost not understandable: P again. writing by the translator makes it that grammar is weak. Writing without a cause that my spelling is weak
[20:19:12] <yoyoek1> Damn, it works well
[20:40:50] <yoyoek1> wiki update :)
[20:45:27] <micges> yoyoek1: d3p links doesn't work
[20:50:05] <yoyoek1> micges: which exactly?
[20:50:20] <micges> all
[20:50:31] <micges> d3p.pl don't load
[20:51:22] <yoyoek1> the server often does not work. celeron 333: P
[20:51:29] <danimal_garage> hmm i hope i win this auction for these 2 vector drives
[20:51:38] <danimal_garage> they are cheap and local
[20:51:52] <yoyoek1> August should be reset for some time and for a time will work again
[20:52:03] <danimal_garage> then i'll have the same ones for both the lathe and my mill
[20:53:26] <micges> yoyoek1: mail me your program micges@wp.pl I'll give it a try ;)
[20:56:12] <yoyoek1> micges: poszlo
[20:57:25] <micges> ok
[20:58:10] <yoyoek1> micges: Only if you were not using a blender you will have trouble
[20:59:15] <micges> I am trouble now
[20:59:25] <yoyoek1> tzn ?
[20:59:47] <micges> I must learn first how to draw ;)
[20:59:58] <yoyoek1> what do you mean?
[21:00:34] <yoyoek1> blender imports unless everything that can:) so you can import the instance dxf'a
[21:01:02] <micges> ok thanks
[21:04:32] <micges> blender wrongly imports dxf.. will have to send them some patches :P
[21:06:24] <yoyoek1> There are two importery. one dxf, dxf Autodesk road. This way I use always and never had problems.
[21:07:15] <micges> how to install your program?
[21:14:38] <danimal_garage> ugh i want to get rid of the vari speed belt drive setup on my mill and put a cogged timing belt on there to drive it, but there isnt a way to tension the belt
[21:15:05] <danimal_garage> the motor locates closely on the bore of the head
[21:15:18] <danimal_garage> i guess i gotta make an adapter plate
[21:15:25] <danimal_garage> that is slotted
[21:37:18] <jt-plasma> Iron Man
[21:39:59] <danimal_garage> w00t won 2 identical vector drives on ebay for $110
[21:40:05] <danimal_garage> locally
[21:40:25] <danimal_garage> 110 for both
[21:40:54] <jt-plasma> cool
[21:41:40] <jt-plasma> want a siemens controller?
[21:43:05] <krushia> i'll sell you some controllers
[21:43:15] <krushia> :)
[21:45:23] <danimal_garage> i got some mitsubishis
[21:46:17] <danimal_garage> man i guess i shoulda asked here first lol
[21:46:38] <krushia> i have a huge stash of automation stuff i need to get rid of
[21:46:47] <danimal_garage> now i gotta find some encoders for the spindles
[21:47:09] <danimal_garage> got any encoders?
[21:47:31] <krushia> not any that aren't attached to something
[21:47:52] <danimal_garage> i'm also looking for an old cnc controller pannel with a mpg and buttons
[21:48:43] <jt-plasma> can't have my mpg and buttons
[21:48:51] <danimal_garage> darn
[21:49:03] <danimal_garage> i need a jog wheel
[21:49:34] <danimal_garage> i guess they arent terribly expensive
[21:49:38] <jt-plasma> you can get a pretty decent one from cnc4pc
[21:50:00] <danimal_garage> yea i saw those
[21:50:28] <danimal_garage> i like the pendants
[21:50:29] <jt-plasma> I had one as a test unit to use to write the part in the manual for a mpg
[21:50:41] <krushia> i have some outrageously priced touch screens that you can program with equally overpriced software
[21:51:18] <danimal_garage> krushia, sold!
[21:51:25] <krushia> lol
[21:52:00] <danimal_garage> i dunno, i might just buy the jog wheel instead of the pendant
[21:52:17] <danimal_garage> it's not like i cant reach it
[21:52:39] <cradek> pendants take two hands
[21:52:56] <cradek> much easier to touch off tools with a wheel that's mounted solid to something
[21:53:37] <jt-plasma> yep
[21:53:41] <cradek> also if you want to use touchy, the extra controls on the pendant aren't worth much
[21:53:53] <danimal_garage> yea
[21:53:55] <cradek> that stuff (and more) is on-screen
[21:53:59] <danimal_garage> thats what i figured
[21:54:15] <cradek> touchy uses the wheel for jogging, feed override, spindle override, max velocity
[21:54:31] <jt-plasma> cradek: would think a 3" wood screw in your motorcycle tire would hurt?
[21:54:55] <cradek> time for a new tire?
[21:54:55] <jt-plasma> it went through the very edge of the rear tire on the bluewing
[21:55:12] <cradek> glad you didn't get hurt
[21:55:17] <jt-plasma> I'm not sure, I don't know how long it was in there
[21:55:34] <jt-plasma> it was just a 1/4" from the far edge of the tire
[21:56:00] <jt-plasma> kinda scary for sure
[21:56:11] <danimal_garage> yea, time to toss it
[21:56:25] <danimal_garage> fixing motorcycle tires is a bad idea
[21:56:32] <cradek> yep
[21:56:54] <jt-plasma> it didn't get into the belt or tube
[21:57:04] <jt-plasma> just the flared out part of the rubber
[21:57:15] <danimal_garage> spoked wheels?
[21:57:32] <jt-plasma> no, mag wheels
[21:57:40] <jt-plasma> with lug bolts :)
[21:57:40] <danimal_garage> and you run tubes?
[21:57:45] <Dave911_> Dave911_ is now known as Dave911
[21:57:56] <jt-plasma> I don't know what is in there LOL
[21:58:11] <danimal_garage> well if you run tubes, i guess you can just throw a new tube in it
[21:58:20] <danimal_garage> usually mags are tubeless
[21:58:24] <jt-plasma> it's not leaking at all
[21:58:34] <danimal_garage> probably tubeless then
[21:58:57] <jt-plasma> I should have taken a picture
[21:59:12] <jt-plasma> * jt-plasma needs to go and check the jerky
[21:59:18] <danimal_garage> yum, jerkey
[21:59:33] <danimal_garage> venicin jerkey?
[21:59:37] <danimal_garage> or beef?
[22:01:07] <danimal_garage> i wonder if i can make a chuck adapter plate for my HNC with a step chuck closer if i face it off and put some bolt holes in it
[22:04:39] <danimal_garage> had to find a cheap chuck or chuck backing plate for a 4 degree taper hardinge spindle nose
[22:04:44] <danimal_garage> hard*
[22:06:26] <jt-plasma> eye of round
[22:06:40] <jt-plasma> A1 type?
[22:07:03] <jt-plasma> http://suburb.semo.net/jet1024/recipes/jerky/soy-jerky.html
[22:07:21] <jt-plasma> Bison is a cost effective chuck
[22:07:28] <jt-plasma> enco etc.
[22:07:58] <jt-plasma> My Hardinge has a A1-5 mount
[22:13:14] <Jymmm> * Jymmm thinks jt-plasma is just buying unsliced balogny and tosses it and some wet cardboard and calling it smoked jerky!
[22:15:59] <jt-plasma> I'll send you some of that then LOL
[22:16:27] <Jymmm> the cardboard smoked balogny jerky ?
[22:17:21] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: OKEY!!! Cause I know you would never dare fsck up any of your gear with that crap! lol
[22:17:30] <jt-plasma> LOL
[22:18:21] <Jymmm> a seasoned smoker is not something you mess around with =)
[22:18:22] <jt-plasma> If you ever had some of my jerky you would NOT purchase store bought ever again just cry at night when you wanted some more
[22:19:18] <Jymmm> lol
[22:20:16] <jt-plasma> this batch should net about 6 pounds
[22:20:21] <Jymmm> Mario Theme played on Stepper Motors with an Arduino http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh2AWswAMvw&NR=1
[22:20:53] <jt-plasma> it's amazing how fast it vanishes
[22:21:38] <jt-plasma> for some reason yet unknown to me putube sound don't work on this computer
[22:22:27] <Jymmm> you have flash working?
[22:23:18] <jt-plasma> dammifiknow
[22:24:36] <jt-plasma> * jt-plasma gets his glasses out
[22:26:04] <Jymmm> go here and see if you have any sound http://www.illwillpress.com/tech.html
[22:26:25] <jt-plasma> * jt-plasma listens to Cream while Flash downloads
[22:27:33] <jt-plasma> oops time to check the jerky again, at this stage you need to pay close attention to it...
[22:32:57] <Jymmm> I couldn't have said it better... http://www.illwillpress.com/NOXMAS22.html
[22:36:04] <jt-plasma> nope no sound on either one
[22:36:40] <jt-plasma> * jt-plasma turns The Wall back on :)
[22:36:45] <alex_joni> what's a simple way to grab a html page from a c program?
[22:36:52] <Jymmm> wget
[22:37:04] <alex_joni> Jymmm: wget to a file, then read?
[22:37:23] <archivist_emc> or link in curl
[22:37:25] <Jymmm> either that or open a socket
[22:37:31] <alex_joni> I was looking for something to use with popen()
[22:37:39] <Jymmm> curl
[22:37:49] <Jymmm> source code availble
[22:38:29] <alex_joni> don't need the source really.. I want to use popen().. e.g. spawn a process which outputs the page to stdout
[22:39:44] <frallzor> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180446008108&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 anyone need a nice milling pc?
[22:40:11] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: I think this is flash too, but try playing of of the songs http://mp3.walmart.com/store/search?action=all&keyword=Hello+Walls
[22:41:03] <alex_joni> aha, wget -O -
[22:41:07] <alex_joni> prints to stdout
[22:59:19] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: do you have any MP3's?
[23:01:07] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: download and try playing this... http://filebin.ca/rgyts/AndTheBeatGoesOn-Whispers.mp3
[23:01:57] <alex_joni> yay, it works using system() and wget ;)
[23:02:20] <alex_joni> now my radio will have weather forecasts
[23:02:36] <Jymmm> radio?
[23:02:46] <jt-plasma> Jymmm: yes I have a bunch of mp3's
[23:02:54] <yoyoek1> sua
[23:02:56] <jt-plasma> your file was blocked
[23:03:25] <alex_joni> Jymmm: wifi radio
[23:03:26] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: blocked?
[23:03:40] <Jymmm> alex_joni: oh
[23:03:52] <jt-plasma> yea, when I clicked it says blocked
[23:03:53] <alex_joni> Jymmm: started to build one
[23:04:21] <jt-plasma> Reported Attack Site!
[23:04:22] <jt-plasma>
[23:04:24] <jt-plasma>
[23:04:25] <jt-plasma>
[23:04:27] <jt-plasma>
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[23:04:34] <jt-plasma> This web site at filebin.ca has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.
[23:04:38] <jt-plasma> oops sorry about the blank lines
[23:05:03] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: OH, you have have phising websites enables in your browser
[23:05:08] <alex_joni> seems they are blacklisted
[23:05:19] <alex_joni> chrome also brings a big fat warning
[23:05:32] <alex_joni> The website at filebin.ca appears to host malware . software that can hurt your computer or otherwise operate without your consent. Just visiting a site that hosts malware can infect your computer.
[23:05:33] <Jymmm> jt-plasma: you can temporarily disbale that
[23:05:49] <Jymmm> for that specific link
[23:06:28] <jt-plasma> ok
[23:07:00] <jt-plasma> alex_joni: infected my computer LOL
[23:08:24] <danimal_garage> sorry, i was eating...my hnc has a 4 degree taper
[23:08:44] <alex_joni> I'm not sorry when I'm eating
[23:08:48] <danimal_garage> it's an oddball, it should be 2 3/8-10 i believe
[23:09:06] <danimal_garage> well you havent tasted my cooking
[23:09:15] <alex_joni> that's true
[23:10:20] <danielfalck> danimal_garage: does the nose have a 'T' shaped slot milled in it?
[23:10:22] <danimal_garage> i have yet to see a hardinge taper on enco or anything like that
[23:10:27] <alex_joni> Jymmm: http://mightyohm.com/blog/2008/10/building-a-wifi-radio-part-1-introduction/
[23:10:35] <danimal_garage> yea, it's the standard hardinge taper
[23:10:38] <danielfalck> as in Hardinge Taper lock
[23:10:44] <danimal_garage> yep
[23:11:01] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Building a radio... http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/easy-ten/easy-ten.htm
[23:11:06] <danimal_garage> usually the hardinge hnc's have a threaded spindle nose
[23:11:16] <danimal_garage> but mine doesnt
[23:12:31] <jt-plasma> * jt-plasma listens to "Too Drunk to Fish"
[23:12:57] <jt-plasma> danielfalck: Hardinge has a special taper?
[23:13:32] <danielfalck> jt-plasma: we have a bunch of Hardinge speed lathes at work
[23:13:44] <danielfalck> most of them have a male taper on the nose
[23:13:55] <danielfalck> with a cam/slot for a pin to engage in
[23:14:17] <danielfalck> you just push the chuck or collet closer on and rotate it either way to lock
[23:14:53] <danielfalck> we have a few machines with the 2-3/68 x 10 thread
[23:15:21] <jt-plasma> this one looks like an A1-5 mount...
[23:15:39] <danielfalck> that's good for your application
[23:15:53] <danielfalck> you can put any kind of collet nose on it that you want then
[23:16:06] <jt-plasma> * jt-plasma listens to The Beat Goes On for some reason Jymmm
[23:16:08] <danielfalck> or chuck
[23:16:32] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Cool =)
[23:17:26] <danimal_garage> jt-plasma, you have a newer hardinge, right?
[23:17:32] <danimal_garage> like a chnc?
[23:17:45] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/P1010020.jpg
[23:17:53] <jt-plasma> yes chnc 1
[23:18:26] <danimal_garage> wow yours is basically the same iron as mine
[23:18:44] <jt-plasma> with a seimens control?
[23:19:02] <danimal_garage> nope, i had an old ge mark century
[23:19:16] <danimal_garage> mine was from 1978
[23:19:24] <danimal_garage> serial number 416 i think
[23:19:47] <danimal_garage> barely used though :)
[23:19:47] <alex_joni> Jymmm: I'll let you know of the progress ;)
[23:19:54] <alex_joni> got a LCD going so far
[23:20:03] <alex_joni> micro + lcd + keys + serial port
[23:20:43] <Jymmm> alex_joni: just bored?
[23:20:44] <danielfalck> jt-plasma: you might see if you can find a system like this for your new lathe:
[23:20:46] <danielfalck> http://www.dunhamtool.com/cnc_collet_chuck.html
[23:21:27] <danimal_garage> i'm going to take a picture of mine, i still havent done that
[23:21:29] <danimal_garage> brb
[23:21:30] <Jymmm> alex_joni: just seems that a pc would be easier
[23:21:36] <jt-plasma> I have one of those that I put in my 4 jaw chuck on my manual lathe
[23:22:12] <alex_joni> Jymmm: not much easier
[23:22:31] <Jymmm> alex_joni: how so?
[23:24:10] <alex_joni> well.. first you need to fit it into a small enclosure
[23:24:14] <alex_joni> then speakers
[23:24:29] <alex_joni> then some display, can't use a 15" TFT in the kitchen for a radio
[23:24:37] <alex_joni> so it's the same thing really
[23:25:48] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Ok, I guess I just dont "get it" =)
[23:26:40] <MattyMatt> DS would make a good little wifi radio
[23:29:04] <Jymmm> alex_joni: So, where do you hook up the speakers?
[23:29:52] <frallzor> MattyMatt may I brag now? :P
[23:31:15] <MattyMatt> if you like :)
[23:31:18] <frallzor> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180446008108&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 thats cheap and 1 is mine!
[23:31:33] <frallzor> and 1 for anyone else here, make a move!
[23:32:14] <frallzor> even with the insane shipping here its awesome
[23:32:26] <MattyMatt> is someone shipping it for you? they say US only
[23:32:31] <frallzor> i contacted him
[23:32:51] <frallzor> most ppl allways tend to ship over seas
[23:33:06] <frallzor> even gave him a little extra for it =)
[23:33:11] <Jymmm> I NEVER ship if it requires a customs form
[23:33:20] <MattyMatt> it's worth it. it'll make the mill look ultra pro
[23:33:52] <frallzor> well he gave me a price, and said I could supply other alternatives if didnt want usps
[23:34:03] <frallzor> so I went with the usps.
[23:34:38] <frallzor> insane, yes, but still not expensive compared to dhl etc etc =P
[23:35:26] <frallzor> customsform arent that hard or time consuming
[23:35:29] <frallzor> *s
[23:35:37] <MattyMatt> P3M? is that the fabled PentiumM that's 30% faster than the equiv desktop chip?
[23:35:48] <Jymmm> No, but waiting in ine at the PO for 50 mnutes is
[23:36:14] <frallzor> here we can do it at home with a pc =)
[23:36:20] <frallzor> not in the land of the free?
[23:36:24] <jt-plasma> frallzor: he has more than one?
[23:36:32] <frallzor> he had 5
[23:36:33] <MattyMatt> ah an ebay trader should figure the best time to go the PO every week :)
[23:36:44] <Jymmm> yeah, never
[23:37:17] <frallzor> good rep and so on, a loyal trader thats probably to nice for his own good
[23:38:15] <MattyMatt> XP licence. worth $100 by itself
[23:38:23] <jt-plasma> dang won't fit in the Hardinge
[23:38:32] <frallzor> well you never know if its "legit" :P
[23:38:38] <frallzor> i dont care :P
[23:39:10] <MattyMatt> nor does M$ anymore. they don't support XP and will start sniping it soon with worthless security 'fixes'
[23:39:11] <frallzor> whats interesting is to see if emc will like it
[23:41:03] <MattyMatt> I wonder if RTAI could be ported to run with 9x or NT kernel
[23:41:55] <MattyMatt> beacuse that box does show the mentality. make a custom industrial control box and then put windows on it
[23:42:31] <frallzor> that box?
[23:42:40] <frallzor> the computer i showed? =)
[23:42:44] <MattyMatt> yep
[23:42:58] <MattyMatt> it looks like it'll take Linux fine tho :)
[23:43:11] <frallzor> sometimes in a lifetime you step over a nice deal
[23:43:16] <frallzor> this is my moment
[23:43:17] <MattyMatt> do Eee have parport?
[23:43:25] <frallzor> wouldnt count on it
[23:43:31] <frallzor> even most new mobos doesnt
[23:43:45] <frallzor> usb all the way
[23:44:28] <MattyMatt> I got an old thinkpad , because I'd heard they were the best for Linux support
[23:44:52] <MattyMatt> not a big enough hdd to dual-boot tho, so it's XP pro for now
[23:44:54] <frallzor> I had an old lappie with my first mill
[23:45:00] <frallzor> but it didnt like the dust it seems =)
[23:45:02] <frallzor> died on me
[23:48:34] <frallzor> but it was a bit useless with that enviroment :P
[23:48:48] <frallzor> a nice vesa75 arm with that new pc would be nice
[23:51:42] <danimal_garage> ugh my computers are being slow
[23:53:47] <danimal_garage> i do not like photobucket's new template
[23:54:14] <danimal_garage> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/danielwilcox/DSCN0732.jpg
[23:54:26] <danimal_garage> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/danielwilcox/DSCN0735.jpg
[23:54:33] <danimal_garage> there's my lathe
[23:54:49] <danimal_garage> there's no rust, the brown is just dried up oil
[23:54:52] <jt-plasma> cool
[23:55:05] <danimal_garage> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/danielwilcox/hardinge.jpg
[23:55:12] <danimal_garage> that's with the old controller
[23:55:40] <danimal_garage> doesnt appear that it was used a ton
[23:56:01] <danimal_garage> paint is relatively intact, considering
[23:56:08] <jt-plasma> this one is attached
[23:56:17] <danimal_garage> yea, i like that
[23:56:40] <danimal_garage> it's all wasted space over there anyways
[23:57:04] <alex_joni> night all
[23:57:11] <danimal_garage> night alex_joni
[23:57:44] <jt-plasma> good night alex_joni
[23:57:51] <danimal_garage> just the sheetmetal from that controller weighed 400lbs when i took it to the recycling yard
[23:57:55] <jt-plasma> this is how mine arrived V
[23:57:59] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/P1010018.jpg
[23:58:47] <danimal_garage> cool
[23:59:01] <danimal_garage> i moved mine in a 16ft penske
[23:59:15] <danimal_garage> i dont have a forklift or anything
[23:59:21] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/P1010019.jpg
[23:59:36] <jt-plasma> we have a forklift but it is at the other shop LOL