#emc | Logs for 2009-12-09

[00:01:13] <dan1mal_garage> what about desilution
[00:01:22] <dan1mal_garage> know anything about that?
[00:03:39] <SWPadnos> not me
[00:11:05] <tom3p> hmm, the pyvcp widget for 'number' allows users to directly edit the value but that value isnt in effect till user inc's or dec's it after editing... either should not be editable or really editable ( to the src ho!)
[00:11:34] <SWPadnos> if you press enter or tab, it should also take effect
[00:13:06] <tom3p> sorry, it's spinbox i was looking at
[00:13:41] <SWPadnos> oh. and enter doesn't update its pin?
[00:16:07] <tom3p> i'm observing the diff between 2 values , each in a spinbox, the diff doesnt chg till inc'd/dec'd , will check the indiv ouputs next
[00:16:41] <SWPadnos> is the difference calculated in HAL and then fed back to pyvcp for display?
[00:17:32] <jt-plasma> you have to press enter in that case tom3p
[00:17:43] <jt-plasma> to "enter" the new value
[00:17:47] <tom3p> no, to a halmeter, result of a sum2
[00:18:12] <tom3p> jt-plasma: enter do\idnt chg the halmeter reading , the diplay deos change
[00:18:46] <tom3p> argh jt-plasma: enter didnt chg the halmeter reading , the display does change
[00:19:52] <jt-plasma> is your sum2 running in a thread?
[00:20:21] <tom3p> yes, at 100000 nS , got 2 threads, both same speed right now
[00:20:23] <SWPadnos> it seems to work, just not at the expected time
[00:20:55] <skunkworks> jt-plasma: how is the plasma thc testing?
[00:21:25] <jt-plasma> hah it is covered up with Hardinge drawings LOL
[00:21:31] <skunkworks> heh
[00:21:44] <jt-plasma> I got about 95% done on the THC
[00:21:53] <jt-plasma> just need to test some more
[00:22:54] <jt-plasma> way too many projects at one time
[00:24:35] <jt-plasma> I did jog the Hardinge around a bit just a bit ago
[00:25:30] <jt-plasma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7Ryb14S5Y
[00:25:45] <tom3p> SWPadnos: do you see the value update correctly ( ever ? just by tab or enter ,mine is wrong forever till inc'd or dec'd, then its wrong by 1 inc or dec)
[00:26:15] <SWPadnos> I can't test at the moment, that's just how I think it should work
[00:26:57] <tom3p> k, thx
[00:31:44] <jt-plasma> tom3p: you testing a pyvcp spinbox?
[00:33:51] <jt-plasma> just testing direct entry and it does not update with enter
[00:35:22] <jt-plasma> tom3p: I get the same results the spin box does not update unless you use the up down arrows
[00:36:20] <jt-plasma> say goodnight Gracie
[00:38:24] <tom3p> jt-plasma: fixed it... goodnite gracie
[00:39:56] <tom3p> had to hack pywidgets, but i think its too immediate, it chgs as i edit, like on the fly
[00:40:34] <tom3p> so while editing 12.123 to -5, you get loads of inappropriate intermediate values
[00:40:40] <tom3p> :(
[00:40:51] <tom3p> it needs basic work
[00:40:53] <SWPadnos> right - that's the trouble with imediate action
[00:41:17] <SWPadnos> there should be events that fire when enter or tab is pressed, which can be used to update the pin
[00:41:19] <tom3p> needs the return, the 'i'm done here it is ' thingy
[00:41:46] <SWPadnos> hmmm. did you hijack something like "onChange" or "onKeyPress"?
[00:43:26] <tom3p> no... pycomp[self.halpin] = self.value hacked to pycomp[self.halpin] = self.v.get() snapshotting the immed state
[00:43:36] <SWPadnos> oh
[00:43:54] <tom3p> the actual state is ok, hal wasnt told
[01:03:21] <Dave911_> Dave911_ is now known as Dave911
[01:48:19] <tom3p> re pyvcp spinbox cant be edited "Note that the callback is not called when the user edits the value directly as if it were an Entry" so its borqed at a lower level http://www.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter.pdf
[02:28:28] <SWPadnos> ok, that would explain it
[02:34:53] <dan1mal_garage> SWPadnos, do you make power supplies, or just controls?
[02:37:34] <tom3p> SWPadnos: added a key bind to return in spinbox :) works now
[02:52:35] <tom3p> hmm, i'd like a slider input widget that returns to ctr when let go ( like a velocity pot that is spring loaded to ctr 0 velocity (or end) )
[02:53:15] <tom3p> bike ride, bbl
[03:00:45] <skunkworks> first blizzard of the season here.
[03:03:47] <cradek> and here...
[03:29:39] <dan1mal_garage> it's way to effin cold here
[03:29:59] <dan1mal_garage> for being southern california anyways
[03:30:12] <dan1mal_garage> grr
[03:38:02] <tom3p> haha its cold & snowing here too, thats why i ride the bike watching PBS in the living room
[03:43:05] <SWPadnos> dan1mal_garage, I only worked on the user interface and controls
[03:43:49] <SWPadnos> I think the smallest power supply the company makes is 5kW, and those are tiny ones there
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[13:00:01] <skunkworks> 13 inches of snow so far...
[13:04:00] <dimas> hehe
[13:04:14] <micges_work> skunkworks: cool
[13:04:55] <micges_work> we have +7 degrees, no snow until cristmas
[13:07:25] <skunkworks> where abouts are you?
[13:07:59] <micges_work> Poland ;)
[13:10:37] <alex_joni> micges_work: heard next week we'll get temps under 0
[13:11:52] <micges_work> oh
[13:13:17] <micges_work> must change tires ;)
[13:16:06] <alex_joni> already changed here
[13:17:46] <skunkworks> we use the same tires - all seasons
[13:18:38] <jthornton> I change from the van to the truck
[13:19:28] <skunkworks> we change from the toyota to the subaru
[13:43:38] <tlab2> tlab2 is now known as tlab
[14:43:46] <tom3p> damn heavy snow, heavy to lift, lotsa water
[14:45:57] <pjm> where are u located tom3p ?
[14:48:12] <tom3p> chicago
[14:49:14] <tom3p> and its freezing up, so i had to get rid of all of it. temp is dropping all morning
[15:10:41] <micges_work> bbl
[15:46:11] <Casainho> hello :-)
[15:46:34] <Casainho> I just got my CNC printing plastic objects, based on RepRap project... :-) :-)
[15:46:55] <Casainho> here a picture: http://a.images.blip.tv/Jpcasainho-MyFirst3DPrintWithRepStrapRepRapProject144.jpg
[15:47:09] <Casainho> and one video: http://blip.tv/file/get/Jpcasainho-MyFirst3DPrintWithRepStrapRepRapProject634.ogg
[15:47:11] <Casainho> :-)
[15:50:34] <pjm> Casainho that is pretty good, it looks like its made of wax
[15:51:37] <tom3p> Casainho: congratulations!
[15:51:41] <Casainho> it's ABS :-)
[15:51:43] <Casainho> thanks :-)
[15:52:19] <Casainho> would be nice if someone document this on EMC2 wiki pages....
[15:52:35] <pjm> tom3p re snow etc, i have to travel to boulder, co tommorow and its like -7F, thats a bit cold!
[15:54:42] <tom3p> Casainho: is there a pump?
[15:55:12] <tom3p> pjm: by car?
[15:55:23] <JT-Work> Casainho: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BasicSteps
[15:56:16] <Casainho> tom3p: what pump? don't known what yo mean... ?
[15:57:54] <Casainho> JT-Work: thanks! I need to take time to do it... for now I saw that there is already a link on EMC2 wiki pages for the one on RepRap wiki pages that I am documenting...
[15:59:01] <Casainho> bye bye :-)
[16:07:42] <tom3p> the feed for the glue gun like stick is just a friction feed of a splined stepper shaft against the side of the slippery plastic stick ( or knurled, or tiny gear )
[16:08:28] <numen> re
[16:16:25] <tom3p> JT-Work: a fix to make enter work for spinbox http://pastebin.ca/1708414
[16:17:12] <JT-Work> tom3p: cool
[16:21:19] <JT-Work> now we just need to get one of the programmers to add it :)
[16:26:49] <tom3p> JT-Work: it doesnt do the proper tkinter 'validate' which means the user might type in his favorite color even tho its supposed to be a float.
[16:34:14] <JT-Work> that might have to be fixed
[16:35:23] <SWPadnos> tom3p, doesn't that also have the issue with intermediate values going to the HAL pin (ie, when you type -12.345, you get "-", then -1, then -12, then -12.3 ...)?
[16:50:32] <tom3p> SWPadnos: it doesnt chg the hal pin value until after enter pressed. oyu can spend a long time editing w/o affecting the halpin. (if thats what you ask)
[16:50:56] <SWPadnos> ok, that's what I was asking
[16:51:14] <tom3p> i think it just needs the code to insure isDigits sort-o-stuff
[16:51:18] <SWPadnos> I thought the halpin=self.v.get() was a change you had made before
[16:51:30] <SWPadnos> vs. halpin=self.value or something
[16:51:37] <dimas> whether ClassicLadder is a part of emc2 or separate project?
[16:51:38] <tom3p> SWPadnos: yes, but it was live before, now its after the enter
[16:51:48] <SWPadnos> ok
[16:52:34] <tom3p> dimas: separate project, a special version is interfaced to emc2
[16:53:56] <tom3p> ;) someone oughtta try it
[16:55:20] <dimas> no one uses?
[16:59:45] <SWPadnos> plenty of people use it
[16:59:54] <SWPadnos> (I'm not one of them)
[17:04:45] <dimas> tom3p, SWPadnos thanks
[17:45:48] <Guest453> greeting all, is this linuxcnc software work with servo base ? I have the drive and the motor everything is servo i need to know if the software work with servo base ? i'm working with a witney puch cnc kind of a lathe
[17:46:45] <archivist> plenty of implementations are using servo
[17:48:17] <archivist> you can see some of the retrofits done here http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Case_Studies
[17:50:23] <Guest453> thanks you i'll have a look at it, cheers :)
[17:51:13] <archivist> this page has interface hardware http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2_Supported_Hardware
[17:57:49] <MarkusBec_away> MarkusBec_away is now known as MarkusBec
[18:13:13] <Dave911> Classic Ladder... I'm using it. Seems to work fine. There is a Modbus issue but I worked around it. I should go back and try and fix it if I get some time.
[18:13:15] <Dave911> It is a valuable addition to EMC2. :-) It is well worth the time figuring it out.
[18:17:06] <Guest453> Hi, my "lathe" has X axis, Y axis, and a tools axis that turn round for selecting the tool to puch and the has a puch can emc2 work with that ?
[18:17:34] <eric_unterhausen> is the toolchanger really an axis?
[18:17:46] <archivist> and yes
[18:18:13] <Guest453> has ans index of 50 tools
[18:18:13] <archivist> some use classic ladder to control the tool changer
[18:18:47] <archivist> lathe 50 tools?
[18:18:53] <Guest453> here is what the machine does
[18:19:04] <Guest453> more like a puching lathe :)
[18:19:21] <archivist> sheet punch
[18:19:40] <Guest453> X axis Y axis and tool libary and puch
[18:19:58] <archivist> puch? a picture ?
[18:20:12] <Dave911> tom3p: I ran through Chicago on Monday and Tuesday coming back from Stevens Pt, WI. I got out of there in the nick of time, just in front of the storm. Did you hear about the guy that got hit with the piece of metal and killed in the toll oasis? The guy was 15' in front of my truck at the toll road oasis. He got hit minutes before I pulled into the parking spot. I couldn't get out...
[18:20:13] <Dave911> ...until the ambulance arrived as he way laying directly in front of where I parked. Talk about being in the wrong spot at the wrong time.
[18:21:30] <eric_unterhausen> Dave911, that sounds like a harrowing experience
[18:21:37] <Dave911> That's a CNC punch. Position x-y and punch, move repunch, etc
[18:21:39] <Dave911> I would not call that a lathe
[18:22:06] <archivist> nor me
[18:22:08] <eric_unterhausen> I wonder if he's using a translator?
[18:23:25] <Dave911> Yes, I had no idea what was going on when I pulled in.... I thought the guy had a heart attack. Turns out a building 1/4 mile away exploded sending metal in different directions. The guy was walking to the plaza from his semi and whoosh - the metal flew out of the sky and hit him. Everyone though a piece of metal came off a truck and got him. That is the most biazzare accident I have...
[18:23:26] <Dave911> ...ever seen.
[18:24:19] <Guest453> yes cnc punch
[18:24:34] <skunkworks_> a building exploded?
[18:25:31] <skunkworks_> where was this?
[18:25:38] <Dave911> They flew a helicopter in to try and save him but it was pretty severe. His wife was there and apparently saw it happen - of course she was very tramatized
[18:25:39] <Dave911> Yes, just east of Rockford Monday afternoon. Natural Gas leak apparently. It was on page 2 of the Chicago paper. I read it Tuesday totally by accident again.
[18:26:06] <eric_unterhausen> I guess when it's your time to go...
[18:27:20] <Dave911> Belvidere... the plant was the NDK America plant The story was on page 2 of the Chicago Sun Times - Tuesday.
[18:27:41] <Guest453> it a cnc punch with servo motor X Y axis so can emc run that ?
[18:27:57] <archivist> Guest453, I am not aware of a cnc punch being done with emc yet, you can be the trailblazer
[18:28:13] <archivist> I see no reason why it cannot be done
[18:28:18] <Dave911> The people at the oasis knew the plant blew up - apparently I drive right by it just after it blew, the metal flew through the air and hit the guy, and I pulled up in front of him. Really strange
[18:28:38] <eric_unterhausen> someone was selling a kit for a punch a while back, I suspect it's doable
[18:28:52] <Guest453> it only then tools axis that i don't see how to make it ?
[18:28:57] <eric_unterhausen> is the punch cycle like a drill cycle?
[18:29:16] <archivist> its a stamping more like
[18:29:16] <eric_unterhausen> the tool axis should not be treated as a motion stage
[18:29:23] <eric_unterhausen> fast?
[18:29:26] <archivist> yes
[18:29:49] <eric_unterhausen> what is the mechanism, a hammer or something?
[18:29:56] <archivist> dont stand near one without ear defenders
[18:30:02] <Guest453> lol
[18:30:22] <eric_unterhausen> already deaf in my right ear, I just point that towards the machine
[18:30:44] <Guest453> puch mechanic and air cluch
[18:31:12] <eric_unterhausen> so it's a little like the laser problem, only probably not as bad
[18:31:18] <archivist> only problem I foresee is servo loop gain if its moving the material
[18:31:46] <archivist> as the weight can change a lot
[18:33:04] <Guest453> the servo motor stay block when it puching the sheet
[18:33:22] <archivist> also dunno about any cam for punching
[18:34:20] <Guest453> already have the cam labery in a computer, and if not operator can make some gcode
[18:34:57] <Dave911> Here is the story on the explosion and death....
[18:34:59] <Dave911> http://www.rrstar.com/belvidere/x1964353088/Injuries-apparent-explosion-at-NDK-plant
[18:37:51] <numen> re
[18:45:08] <Guest453> ok i found a picture that look a like what i'm talking about http://cottenauctions.com/SonoMag/images/shape_3.jpg
[18:49:59] <GonMD> so i have a router thats 2'x by 3'y by 6"z, so in the conf i put in the numbers (i go in inches, not mm) 24", 36", 6" but EMC seems to think my table is a million square feet. and when i try to run the supplied EMC gcode for just an air run, my table zooms off in several directions, but in the preview, looks like its moved no more then a few cm. so question is, if i move the axis around in the app, should the travel be proportional to the red dotted box ?
[18:51:59] <cradek> yes the dotted lines should be the work volume
[18:52:07] <cradek> if not, you have something wrong
[18:52:11] <tarzan> Guest453, nimbler?
[18:52:13] <cradek> bbl, lunch
[18:52:21] <GonMD> thanks
[18:53:58] <Guest453> tarzan, what do you mean by nimbler ?
[19:01:43] <aystarik> I need to run lube pump for 30 sec every 8 hours... What component may accomplish this?
[19:02:32] <Jymmm> timer relay
[19:03:05] <micges> GonMD: what emc version you're using? are you using stepconf?
[19:03:54] <GonMD> micges: latest version supplied on the EMC2 website. I am using stepconf.
[19:03:59] <aystarik> Jymmm: is it hal module?
[19:04:35] <Jymmm> aystarik: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Relays_-z-_Timers
[19:06:33] <aystarik> well, relay and pump are already present. PLC controlling is being replaced by PC with EMC, so I would prefer software solution :)
[19:07:19] <GonMD> basically, I have my machine homing into the corner of the bed, and the Z all the way to the top of its travel. but when i load up EMC the position cone always shows up in the wrong corner. when i do get it in the correct corner, then whey i go to move the axis around, moving away from the switch on the table, it registers wrong in the app and hits its soft limit, and so then im back to square one
[19:10:31] <Dave911> GonMD: I think you have your 0,0 position in the wrong corner for a router. Also it sounds like your scaling may be off in stepconf
[19:10:46] <eric_unterhausen> aystarik: look at classic ladder; it's part of emc
[19:12:30] <eric_unterhausen> I would like to run coolant and lube from classic ladder, but I'm failing at motion so it's kinda moot at the moment
[19:13:52] <Dave911> GonMD: Either that or you have your 0,0 position in the right place and you simply need to reverse some directions - when you hit the right arrow does the router move the right? Likewise on the up and down keys for the Y axis?
[19:13:57] <GonMD> Dave911: it most likely is. ive worked with automatic lathes for a number of years, but this is my first attempt at a cnc router. would it help if i had some pictures of my problem
[19:16:22] <Dave911> Pictures almost always help.. send us a link to them ..
[19:16:51] <eric_unterhausen> isn't z down?
[19:19:50] <Dave911> I forget, I have been working on a CNC lathe - X and Z - correct me if I am wrong.. I meant the keys that jog the axis .. :-)
[19:20:11] <eric_unterhausen> I wasn't correcting you, I just suspect that may be the problem
[19:20:27] <Dave911> Oh..
[19:20:54] <Dave911> Sounds like he has more than one issue perhaps
[19:21:28] <eric_unterhausen> of course, you can just have the axis moving backwards relative to what emc wants and that will do it too
[19:21:54] <Dave911> That's what I was trying to say ...
[19:21:54] <micges> GonMD: if after homing, if you can jog to left side of x axis and on preview you have cone at left side of dotted rectangle then it's ok in that axis
[19:24:41] <GonMD> Dave911: Okay, i fixed the key issues. X and Y now corrospond with left and right arrow keys respectively. now though, (i had to un-invert y motor step and direction) when i go to home Y, it moves in the opposite direction.
[19:26:02] <GonMD> and give me a few minutes and ill get some screens of my stepconf, ini file, and some pictures
[19:29:03] <micges> GonMD: then you must invert sings in HOME_SEARCH_VEL and HOME_LATCH_VEL in stepconf on axis y
[19:29:25] <micges> signs*
[19:30:41] <Dave911> Are you following standard convention for X and Y positive directions? If not you will get into trouble with Cam generated Gcode..
[19:43:13] <GonMD> as for standard convention, im not sure.
[19:46:03] <GonMD> so instead of me trying to describe something that may or may not be wrong, here are some screen grabs
[19:47:24] <awallin> anyone actually using one of those Intel ATOM-based motherboards for EMC2? With a mesa 5I20 card? any good?
[19:49:00] <GonMD> http://tinyurl.com/parallel-setup http://tinyurl.com/ylroywo http://tinyurl.com/ybjlysh http://tinyurl.com/zsetup
[19:49:56] <GonMD> http://tinyurl.com/yjd3cd5 <--EMC2
[19:50:37] <Dave911> I'm using a couple of the Intel Atom 330 CPU boards.. I forget the number They work great!
[19:54:16] <Dave911> Your workspace is a long ways from the plot. What does it look like after you home the machine?
[19:55:31] <awallin> Dave911: sounds good, I might ask on the list for more user experience, might be one choice for the PC on the lathe I'm building
[19:56:36] <Dave911> GonMD: Your workspace is a long ways from the plot. What does it look like after you home the machine?
[19:57:47] <GonMD> Dave911: exact same except with with a few yellow lines but the cone goes back to that corner.
[19:58:49] <Dave911> >>I might ask on the list for more user experience ..... Makes sense to me. :-)
[19:59:45] <GonMD> ill keep poking around with it. its just begining to become irksome. ive been at this for a few days trying to get it calibrated
[20:00:02] <Dave911> GonMD: I've seen a similar display on my lathe before I home it. But not after.
[20:00:31] <GonMD> ill keep messing around. i just wanted to try on my own for a few days before i came to irc
[20:01:47] <Dave911> I suspect you have a G54 offset problem. Try touching off using G54 offsets at your 0,0 position. I think that might clear up your issue.
[20:02:14] <GonMD> ill try that, brb
[20:10:31] <GonMD> no change
[20:11:46] <SWPadnos> awallin, I have experience with a bunch of D954GCLF2 motherboards, and I can say that the Mesa cards work fine in them
[20:12:28] <SWPadnos> I haven't used EMC2/RTAI on them, but several others have (jmkasunich, skunkworks, Eric Johnson (?), etc)
[20:12:34] <GonMD> thing is, when i edit the table travel numbers enough to where, after the machine is homed, and i move it to its pysical length of travel, the yellow line goes from one end of the red box to the other. but once i get that done, now models will fit in that red box
[20:18:39] <SWPadnos> GonMD, you're doing all of this in stepconf, correct?
[20:18:45] <GonMD> aye
[20:19:42] <GonMD> but like i said, i have no idea if im doing all of this correctly. my table is 2'x3'x6". and i think i have the right numbers in my conf
[20:20:21] <micges> GonMD: paste you ini file
[20:23:08] <GonMD> gonna be alot of text
[20:23:10] <GonMD> # Generated by stepconf at Thu May 29 20:30:55 2003
[20:23:10] <GonMD> # If you make changes to this file, they will be
[20:23:10] <GonMD> # overwritten when you run stepconf again
[20:23:14] <GonMD> [EMC]
[20:23:14] <GonMD> MACHINE = geko
[20:23:16] <GonMD> NML_FILE = emc.nml
[20:23:18] <GonMD> DEBUG = 0
[20:23:20] <GonMD> [DISPLAY]
[20:23:21] <GonMD> DISPLAY = axis
[20:23:24] <GonMD> EDITOR = gedit
[20:23:30] <GonMD> MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 1.2
[20:23:31] <GonMD> INTRO_GRAPHIC = emc2.gif
[20:23:33] <GonMD> INTRO_TIME = 5
[20:23:35] <GonMD> PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/erok/emc2/nc_files
[20:23:37] <GonMD> INCREMENTS = .1in .05in .01in .005in .001in .0005in .0001in
[20:23:39] <GonMD> [FILTER]
[20:23:41] <GonMD> PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .png,.gif,.jpg Greyscale Depth Image
[20:23:43] <GonMD> PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script
[20:23:45] <GonMD> png = image-to-gcode
[20:23:46] <GonMD> gif = image-to-gcode
[20:23:48] <GonMD> jpg = image-to-gcode
[20:23:50] <GonMD> py = python
[20:23:53] <GonMD> [TASK]
[20:23:55] <GonMD> TASK = milltask
[20:23:56] <GonMD> CYCLE_TIME = 0.010
[20:23:57] <GonMD> [RS274NGC]
[20:23:58] <GonMD> PARAMETER_FILE = emc.var
[20:24:01] <GonMD> [EMCMOT]
[20:24:03] <GonMD> EMCMOT = motmod
[20:24:04] <GonMD> COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0
[20:24:06] <GonMD> COMM_WAIT = 0.010
[20:24:08] <GonMD> BASE_PERIOD = 28409
[20:24:10] <GonMD> SERVO_PERIOD = 1000000
[20:24:12] <GonMD> [HAL]
[20:24:15] <GonMD> HALUI = halui
[20:24:16] <GonMD> HALFILE = geko.hal
[20:24:18] <GonMD> HALFILE = custom.hal
[20:24:20] <GonMD> POSTGUI_HALFILE = custom_postgui.hal
[20:24:22] <GonMD> [HALUI]
[20:24:25] <GonMD> # add halui MDI commands here (max 64)
[20:24:26] <GonMD> [TRAJ]
[20:24:28] <GonMD> AXES = 3
[20:24:30] <GonMD> COORDINATES = X Y Z
[20:24:32] <GonMD> LINEAR_UNITS = inch
[20:24:34] <GonMD> ANGULAR_UNITS = degree
[20:24:36] <GonMD> CYCLE_TIME = 0.010
[20:24:38] <GonMD> DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 0.10
[20:24:40] <GonMD> MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 0.40
[20:24:42] <GonMD> [EMCIO]
[20:24:44] <micges> NOT HERE !!!
[20:24:44] <GonMD> EMCIO = io
[20:24:46] <GonMD> CYCLE_TIME = 0.100
[20:24:48] <GonMD> TOOL_TABLE = tool.tbl
[20:24:52] <GonMD> [AXIS_0]
[20:24:53] <GonMD> TYPE = LINEAR
[20:24:54] <GonMD> HOME = 0.0
[20:24:56] <GonMD> MAX_VELOCITY = 0.380001216004
[20:24:58] <GonMD> MAX_ACCELERATION = 2.0
[20:25:00] <GonMD> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 2.5
[20:25:02] <GonMD> SCALE = 88000.0
[20:25:04] <GonMD> FERROR = 0.05
[20:25:06] <GonMD> MIN_FERROR = 0.01
[20:25:08] <GonMD> MIN_LIMIT = -0.01
[20:25:10] <GonMD> MAX_LIMIT = 24.0
[20:25:12] <GonMD> HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
[20:25:14] <GonMD> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = 0.040000
[20:25:16] <GonMD> HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.005682
[20:25:20] <GonMD> HOME_SEQUENCE = 1
[20:25:22] <GonMD> [AXIS_1]
[20:25:24] <GonMD> TYPE = LINEAR
[20:25:26] <GonMD> HOME = 0.0
[20:25:28] <GonMD> MAX_VELOCITY = 0.380001216004
[20:25:31] <GonMD> MAX_ACCELERATION = 2.0
[20:25:32] <GonMD> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 2.5
[20:25:34] <GonMD> SCALE = 88000.0
[20:25:36] <GonMD> FERROR = 0.05
[20:25:38] <GonMD> MIN_FERROR = 0.01
[20:25:40] <GonMD> MIN_LIMIT = -0.01
[20:25:42] <GonMD> MAX_LIMIT = 36.0
[20:25:44] <GonMD> HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
[20:25:46] <GonMD> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = 0.040000
[20:25:48] <GonMD> HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.005682
[20:25:53] <GonMD> HOME_SEQUENCE = 2
[20:25:54] <GonMD> [AXIS_2]
[20:25:57] <GonMD> TYPE = LINEAR
[20:25:59] <GonMD> HOME = 0.0
[20:26:00] <GonMD> MAX_VELOCITY = 0.1
[20:26:02] <GonMD> MAX_ACCELERATION = 1.0
[20:26:04] <GonMD> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 1.25
[20:26:11] <GonMD> SCALE = 88000.0
[20:26:11] <GonMD> FERROR = 0.05
[20:26:11] <GonMD> MIN_FERROR = 0.01
[20:26:12] <GonMD> MIN_LIMIT = -0.6
[20:26:15] <GonMD> MAX_LIMIT = 0.01
[20:26:16] <GonMD> HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
[20:26:18] <GonMD> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = 0.040000
[20:26:21] <GonMD> HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.005682
[20:26:24] <GonMD> HOME_SEQUENCE = 0
[20:26:31] <GonMD> yeah, sorry about that. http://gonmd.com/uploads/files/geko.ini
[20:28:51] <Dave911> I think he meant Pastebin your Ini file... oh well
[20:28:53] <Dave911> Your velocities are super slow.
[20:30:11] <GonMD> that is on purpose till im comfortable with the machine
[20:31:45] <micges> GonMD: I'm lost, once again, with that ini file you pasted what wrong happens?
[20:39:03] <GonMD> Okay, my table is 2'x3'x6" x y z. I am trying to get the correct table travel numbers. I work in inches, not mm. So, when under each axis in stepconf, for home i have o for all 3 axis. for travel its 0 to 24.0 for X, 0 to 36 for Y, and then when i boot up EMC2, the position cone sits in the wrong corner, that my router is actually sitting at after I home. Then, when i move the axis to the opposite side of its maximum travel, the amount traveled on the red dott
[20:39:03] <GonMD> box, is miniscule. So then I edit the X and Y down real low, so that the amount moved in EMC is equal to actual travel. once i do that though, no models will fit inside the workspace
[20:40:31] <GonMD> if all this still doesnt make sence, ill just go back to editing stuff till i can manage to get it right.
[20:43:02] <micges> what units are used in Axis?
[20:43:54] <GonMD> well, i told EMC stepconf i work in inches, so im assuming inches
[20:45:21] <micges> it is settable in view menu
[20:55:44] <GonMD> its set to Display Inch. Now, i just messed around a bit more. i touched off all 3 axis to G54 and the sample supplied model is within the red box
[21:04:06] <rob__> rob__ is now known as robh_
[21:34:43] <andypugh> Does anyone know if a Mesa 7i43 would be OK with a 1k pull-up on an output pin?
[21:38:16] <eric_unterhausen> you have no isolation between your machine and the gate array?
[21:42:21] <andypugh> Yes, that is rather the problem.
[21:42:48] <andypugh> I am trying to force the buffer into a known state, regardless off the state of the 7i43
[22:16:17] <Dave911> GonMD: Cool, I'm glad you got past that problem.
[22:32:50] <GonMD> Dave911: theres still the problem of the box size versus actual table size
[22:33:05] <GonMD> which im still working on
[22:40:56] <GonMD> its like, stepconf is reading my table travel in feet, rather then inches
[22:43:19] <MarkusBec> MarkusBec is now known as MarkusBec_away
[23:18:05] <MarkusBec_away> MarkusBec_away is now known as MarkusBec
[23:24:41] <andypugh> Gah! Had an IDC header out-of-pitch. I hope no damage has been done...
[23:33:51] <MarkusBec> MarkusBec is now known as MarkusBec_away
[23:42:59] <Jymmm> How do you calculate the length of the diagonal piece? http://imagebin.ca/view/Kvek2MVu.html
[23:43:46] <Jymmm> be it 45 or 30 or whatever
[23:47:15] <andypugh> Pythagarus.
[23:47:46] <andypugh> Actually, Pythagorus might work better.
[23:47:59] <Jymmm> he's dead dude
[23:48:05] <andypugh> Good point.
[23:49:23] <andypugh> But square root of (short side1 x short side 1) + (short side2 x short side 2) will work.
[23:49:48] <andypugh> Personally, I woulsn't bother. I would offer a piece up, mark it with a pencil and cut.
[23:50:06] <andypugh> Then make several identical ones.
[23:50:34] <andypugh> Actually, I wouldn't even do that, I would go down to the shop and buy some shelf brackets.
[23:50:46] <Jymmm> fsck that, too exesinve
[23:50:49] <Jymmm> expensive
[23:51:16] <Jymmm> 2x4 = $2, 2 brackets = $20
[23:52:36] <Jymmm> sqrt(x^2 + y^2) ?
[23:52:51] <andypugh> Yeah
[23:53:03] <Jymmm> is that the OUTSIDE length?
[23:53:22] <andypugh> It works for both, as long as you use the right X and Y
[23:53:35] <andypugh> http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9297133&fh_view_size=10&fh_sort_order=1&fh_sort_by=_price_rrp_min&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=shelf+bracket&fh_eds=ß&fh_refview=search&ts=1260402751140&isSearch=true
[23:53:40] <Jymmm> well, there's 1.5" diff
[23:53:45] <Jymmm> sorta
[23:54:06] <andypugh> Yes. The diagonal has sides of different lengths
[23:54:58] <Jymmm> LOL.... 1) USA, 2) The shelf is 96"x16" =)
[23:55:29] <andypugh> And a packet of 20 steel shelf brackets is £12, call it $20.
[23:55:36] <Jymmm> made out of a 2x4 frame
[23:55:42] <Jymmm> and a 2x4 is still $2
[23:55:48] <Jymmm> save $18
[23:56:03] <Jymmm> and I already have the 2x4's
[23:57:01] <andypugh> Yeah, but everything is loads cheaper in the US. I would expect you can get 20 brackets for $10
[23:57:30] <Jymmm> Not heavy duty welded ones, they're $10/ea
[23:57:34] <Jymmm> 16"
[23:57:52] <Jymmm> this is a shelf in the garage
[23:58:13] <Jymmm> not some wussy nick nack shelf on the wall in the livingroom
[23:58:23] <Jymmm> =)
[23:58:39] <Jymmm> ok 22.6274"
[23:59:45] <andypugh> My bench grinder shelf is on a couple of the £12 for 20 brackets. My old lathe used to be mounted on a shelf held up by them. Admittedly it was a very small lathe.