#emc | Logs for 2009-08-04

[02:21:09] <tom3p> ?? Mentor_ ?? interested in EDM?
[02:26:57] <tom3p> re: " <SWPadnos> if you want to back up for EDM (or similar) purposes, then there are probably other ways to accomplish your goal"
[02:27:03] <tom3p> SWPadnos whats your thoughts on reversal between trajectory updates (in EDM, during the approach to one destination, the progress may be fwd/bwd/fwd according to the process)
[02:29:31] <tom3p> this is much finer than the coarse idea of reversing a gcode line, it is as fine as one servo update
[02:33:39] <tom3p> btw: flukes suck as scopes. a meter aint a scope. a digital scope aint an analog scope.... et infintum
[04:07:41] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
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[09:21:20] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[09:49:49] <GammaX> mornin
[10:02:29] <GammaX> whats the differance between a 10mhz oscope and a 60mhz oscope
[10:02:47] <archivist> 50mhz
[10:03:41] <GammaX> haha, well in terms of usefulness.
[10:03:49] <archivist> thats the 3db response that the makers quote
[10:04:26] <archivist> all depends on work you are doing, I prefer the faster
[10:05:17] <GammaX> im lookin for a cheap but ok quality digital oscope/multimeter
[10:05:27] <GammaX> http://www.amazon.com/HDS1022M-N-Handheld-Channel-Oscilloscope-Multimeter/dp/B000WOYEXI/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1249380248&sr=8-21
[10:05:29] <GammaX> like that
[10:07:17] <archivist> damned expensive for hand held
[10:08:03] <GammaX> archivist, you have one?
[10:08:27] <archivist> not a hand held but do have other scopes
[10:09:01] <GammaX> can you give any tips on buyin one maby?
[10:09:01] <archivist> most recent I got an 8 channel on ebay
[10:09:15] <GammaX> how much was an 8 channel! lol
[10:09:45] <archivist> less than you think :)
[10:10:27] <archivist> I have an advantage in knowing what the item was, the description was wrong
[10:11:16] <GammaX> nice
[10:11:38] <GammaX> hows tektronix?
[10:12:06] <archivist> tek is one of the best
[10:12:50] <GammaX> digital or analog?
[10:13:35] <archivist> top 3 makes are Tektronix, LeCroy and Agilent with Fluke also making handhelds (includes the old Philips brand)
[10:13:53] <archivist> Owon and others are chinese
[10:14:18] <GammaX> ewww chinese junk
[10:14:46] <archivist> even the best are getting stuff done over there
[10:16:30] <archivist> I get second hand because I can test and fix, and its within my price range
[10:17:26] <GammaX> if you see a good deal on an ebay handheld scope meter please let me know!
[10:18:12] <archivist> far cheaper than the one you were looking at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UT81B-portable-Scope-Digital-Multimeters-8M-bandwidth_W0QQitemZ280242794076QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET?hash=item413fc5ae5c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[10:20:12] <archivist> GammaX, you are in the states? where
[10:20:22] <GammaX> from newyork
[10:20:27] <GammaX> not in the states currently...
[10:20:40] <GammaX> ill be back in a month or so hopefully! lol
[10:22:25] <archivist> if I had spare money and the need ebay item 360169077362 way over the top for you as well
[10:25:20] <GammaX> 500mhz?
[10:26:23] <GammaX> what would that be used for neccasarily?
[10:27:46] <archivist> faster work
[10:27:50] <archivist> 220457391636
[10:29:28] <GammaX> I cant repair that lol
[10:29:35] <GammaX> Well I might be able to but is it worth it?
[10:30:22] <archivist> for spares if you already had one
[10:30:33] <GammaX> ahh ok
[10:31:10] <GammaX> im basicly gettin an oscope for my milling macine and an other general thing I run into.
[10:33:15] <archivist> 390076993472
[10:36:13] <GammaX> only 4mhz?
[10:37:18] <archivist> for mechanical work probably enough, dont forget halscope built into emc
[10:40:40] <GammaX> id rather have a physical oscope
[10:41:25] <GammaX> and I need a good multimeter so I figured buy a scope/meter
[11:04:05] <numen> weil irgendwie wird das ding in letzter zeit extrem heiss und der lüfter läuft dauernd
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[11:13:35] <Jymmm> that lil multiscope is cool looking
[11:13:48] <Jymmm> And they are in my area too
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[13:25:59] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.ca/img/7L3vWcVC.jpg
[13:27:20] <Valen> ?
[13:27:48] <skunkworks_> must be nice.
[13:27:56] <Valen> mmm prolly
[13:28:58] <archivist> the buggers can sleep anywhere
[13:28:59] <Valen> one of my dogs drools in his sleep
[13:29:37] <Valen> kind of a negative to letting him sleep on the bed
[13:32:54] <archivist> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/funny-pictures-cats-sleep-in-tupperware.jpg
[13:33:19] <Valen> heh ichcb sends me emails every day with funny pictures
[13:33:19] <Valen> i like the loldogs ones too
[13:33:20] <archivist> I have a set of favourite pages in firefox ichcb is always there
[13:56:24] <jepler> skunkworks_: worst slinky ever
[13:56:48] <skunkworks_> heh
[13:56:58] <skunkworks_> He sure knows how to sleep
[13:58:17] <skunkworks_> He actually looked up when the camera beeped - but decided it wasn't anything important (food) and put his head back down.
[14:01:15] <jepler> disassembling one of those tiny bluetooth USB dongles: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=282
[14:11:34] <Valen1> Valen1 is now known as Valen
[14:55:31] <Vq_> Vq_ is now known as Vq
[15:35:30] <Valen1> Valen1 is now known as Valen
[16:53:25] <GammaX> I cant make up my mind on what multimeter to buy... I am thinking about the fluke but I am also thinking about buying a lesser known scopemeter
[16:54:38] <archivist> one of each ?
[16:55:42] <GammaX> thats possible but Id rather have an all in one...
[17:01:15] <SWPadnos> GammaX, you asked what kind I use - it's a Radio Shack meter
[17:01:42] <GammaX> SWPadnos, seriously? lol
[17:01:50] <SWPadnos> I have an HP benchtop meter as well, but I usualy use the Radio Shack
[17:01:52] <SWPadnos> yes
[17:02:19] <GammaX> why dont you have a fluke with all your big bucks? haha
[17:02:33] <SWPadnos> no need
[17:02:37] <SWPadnos> and I have the HP ;)
[17:02:45] <cradek> http://geektrap.com/bill-files/01248711886/dscn7531.resized.jpg
[17:02:50] <cradek> you can see my favorite meter here
[17:03:01] <SWPadnos> looks like a Simpson
[17:03:10] <cradek> no, it's also a radio shack
[17:03:15] <SWPadnos> or any other one of that era :)
[17:03:17] <SWPadnos> heh
[17:03:21] <cradek> fetvom (I think all the simpsons are passive)
[17:04:02] <SWPadnos> an advantage of a meter vs. a scope is that you don't have to worry as much about grounding
[17:04:09] <cradek> yep, or plugging it in
[17:04:13] <GammaX> What is up with all you guys using radioshack devices? lol
[17:04:19] <cradek> GammaX: they used to be good
[17:04:20] <archivist> he wants a scopemeter
[17:04:22] <SWPadnos> they work
[17:04:41] <SWPadnos> I bought mine about 7-8 years ago, and it's a digital meter
[17:04:44] <cradek> often, the more functions a device has, the worse they all work
[17:04:48] <archivist> cheap shit for bench work
[17:04:52] <SWPadnos> has a serial port too, but I've never used the datalogging features
[17:05:07] <cradek> I wouldn't blindly buy a no-name scope meter thing and expect it to be usable
[17:05:28] <SWPadnos> if you're trying to measure milliohms or microvolts, they're not so good
[17:05:48] <SWPadnos> for most other things, they're fine. who cares if the 24V supply is 24.00000 or 24.01V?
[17:05:48] <cradek> I think my scope is 20 years old too :-)
[17:06:13] <GammaX> damn. You scope is almsot as old as me haha
[17:06:19] <cradek> heh
[17:06:29] <archivist> some of my scopes are older
[17:06:44] <cradek> yeah this is my "new" one, haha
[17:07:08] <cradek> finally have one with no tubes in it (except the crt of course)
[17:07:13] <cradek> bbl
[17:08:03] <archivist> I have one of teks early transistorised with sampling plugin
[17:08:06] <GammaX> I am also thinkin about getting a pair of smart tweezers for electric repair
[17:08:08] <DaViruz> my scopemeter is 20 years old, which is a bit newer then my crt scope..
[17:08:47] <DaViruz> the scopemeter is pretty amazing for it's age though
[17:10:55] <GammaX> well what would you guys recomend? I need a good multimeter and I want to get a scope...
[17:11:47] <GammaX> if you were involved in last nights conversation please remind me as I was accidentaly tripping out on ambian haha. I was trying to buy a scope meter and couldnt see the keyboard lol
[17:12:22] <archivist> last night, you mean this morning
[17:12:27] <bill2or3> summary: scopes are expensive.
[17:12:40] <GammaX> uhmm Wierd time differance.. I dont remember
[17:12:51] <archivist> can be cheap on fleaybay
[17:12:52] <GammaX> Im open for a used one on ebay if it is suggested
[17:13:28] <tom2> tom2 is now known as tom3p
[17:21:20] <tom3p> the config max5-triv.ini specifically says "does not provide proper multi-axis behavior.", does max5-kins.ini do so?
[17:32:38] <EbiDK|AWAY> UK peeps: Your politicians have officially gone completely bonkers: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/britain-to-put-cctv-cameras-inside-private-homes/
[17:43:05] <Guest57651> Guest57651 is now known as pjm
[17:50:41] <GammaX> Britain is a police state...
[17:51:58] <pjm> hear hear!
[17:52:32] <archivist> its an over taxed state
[17:53:41] <pjm> i'm not sure comrade brown would agree its a police state, more like a dictatorship
[17:55:26] <skunkworks_> pjm: i reference your machine a lot. :)
[17:55:36] <pjm> ah really!
[17:55:38] <pjm> thanks ;-)
[17:55:55] <pjm> its doing ok at the moment, still churning out pieces and bits
[17:56:21] <pjm> i'm looking at the MESA stuff currently
[17:56:52] <skunkworks_> That would sure be a nice upgrade
[17:57:59] <archivist> there are a few brits needing mesa stuff, was talking on the phone to some earlier
[17:58:16] <pjm> i reckon i need to go for a 5i20 + 7I47 to control 4 X steppers, have limit switch inputs (xyz etc) and spindle encoder
[17:58:36] <pjm> i'm slowly replaceing my microswitches with inductive proximity switches
[17:58:49] <pjm> i'd probably order the cards via my proxy in atlanta
[17:58:53] <skunkworks_> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86610&page=2
[17:59:05] <cradek> I don't see how you'd need a 7i47 for that
[17:59:14] <archivist> Ive run out of connections for switches
[17:59:30] <cradek> 7i47 is differential IO
[17:59:50] <skunkworks_> (I was being just a little mean)
[18:00:26] <pjm> cradek only because i'm too lazy to design and etch up a suitable I/F for the 5i20
[18:01:12] <pjm> i reckon i should have a 5i20 for all control related stuff but keep the parport for the MPG pendant
[18:04:53] <cradek> skunkworks_: even with the stepper rig-up thing he's using a springy holder
[18:05:50] <cradek> and then peck tapping with a springy holder - that can't be a good idea
[18:08:28] <archivist> he has straight fluted tap!
[18:10:18] <cradek> yikes
[18:11:08] <cradek> hm, the 6" kurt is on sale for $409 with free shipping...
[18:19:44] <skunkworks_> I just love the comparison
[18:20:24] <skunkworks_> cradek: are you planing on adding a few axis to jr?
[18:20:30] <skunkworks_> trunion or something?
[18:20:53] <skunkworks_> sure looks like it has decent z travel remembering sturats shop.
[18:21:07] <cradek> yeah it has maybe 18"
[18:21:11] <cradek> it would have to be small
[18:21:46] <skunkworks_> sturats?
[18:21:54] <archivist> you do need some XY travel with a trunion
[18:21:55] <skunkworks_> stuarts
[18:22:10] <cradek> wednesday the 12th we have "Think Your Drink" training at work
[18:22:34] <cradek> must be a follow-up to the salad training we had last month
[18:22:38] <cradek> * cradek sighs
[18:22:55] <archivist> ew, strange company
[18:23:45] <skunkworks_> seems like a very touchy feely company.
[18:24:13] <archivist> not for rough blokes then
[18:24:27] <cradek> fortunately (so far) all that kind of thing is optional
[18:25:24] <skunkworks_> 'what is your stapler thinking?'
[18:25:47] <cradek> can you believe 'office space' was 10 years ago?
[18:27:31] <kanzure> no :(
[18:28:17] <cradek> wow: http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=red+stapler
[18:28:19] <cradek> they still have them
[18:28:28] <skunkworks_> I know - seinfeld also...
[18:32:15] <skunkworks_> cradek: same guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaQb-eW_xCM&feature=channel_page
[18:34:02] <pjm> skunkworks do u reckon the write up of my machine on the wiki needs any additional details? I think it may be brief in some areas..
[18:34:40] <cradek> skunkworks_: he's so creative he could do some amazing things if he'd use emc instead
[19:16:17] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah hoss is a master
[19:17:18] <seb_kuzminsky> he's my hero
[19:19:54] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm currently building a belt drive for the spindle on my X2 using hoss's plans
[19:24:15] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw5HiP8JLN0&NR=1
[19:28:35] <Jymmm> cradek: whats so special about a red stapler?
[19:37:47] <geo01005> seb_kuzminsky, how is your mill project going?
[19:39:08] <cradek> Jymmm: it was an important part of that movie
[19:39:17] <seb_kuzminsky> geo01005: slowly :-/
[19:39:46] <Jymmm> cradek: oh, guess i missed that part of the conversation =)
[19:40:40] <geo01005> seb_kuzminsky: that is ok, I haven't touched my mill for weeks.
[19:41:42] <seb_kuzminsky> i learned how to grind flycutting tools and trammed my column and flycut a 6x4" Al plate
[19:41:49] <seb_kuzminsky> that's some kind of progress :-)
[19:41:55] <cradek> cool
[19:42:02] <cradek> 4" sounds pretty wide
[19:42:25] <seb_kuzminsky> it made a huge mess - nothing like a hot swarf shower to wake you up
[19:42:31] <Jymmm> * Jymmm is still watching all these videos of that tool changer
[19:42:40] <cradek> yep nothing like a flycutter to fling chips around
[19:42:59] <seb_kuzminsky> makes me want a cnc-converted machine, just so i can enclose it ;-)
[19:43:10] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: how's your mori-seki?
[19:43:27] <cradek> X homed last night
[19:43:40] <seb_kuzminsky> :-D
[19:43:48] <cradek> so, I think the hard stuff is done, it's just a matter of wiring it all up and writing ladder
[19:44:02] <cradek> figuring out how to come out of estop took some reverse-engineering
[19:44:07] <seb_kuzminsky> you're using 5i20 with servos?
[19:44:26] <cradek> I'm trying to use all the existing setup minus the old computer
[19:44:30] <cradek> yes
[19:44:41] <cradek> 5i20 + 7i33 + some opto22 stuff
[19:44:56] <seb_kuzminsky> 7i33 is pwm to +-10?
[19:45:07] <cradek> yes, and differential encoder receivers
[19:45:11] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[19:45:13] <cradek> 4 channels of each
[19:45:15] <seb_kuzminsky> index on the encoders?
[19:45:20] <cradek> yes of course :-)
[19:45:23] <seb_kuzminsky> herh
[19:45:24] <seb_kuzminsky> -r
[19:45:32] <cradek> homed X to index
[19:45:43] <seb_kuzminsky> * seb_kuzminsky drools :-)
[19:45:59] <cradek> about .0004" backlash in X - hard to measure for sure - almost none
[19:46:07] <cradek> I hope the rest are as good
[19:46:07] <seb_kuzminsky> wow
[19:46:18] <seb_kuzminsky> preloaded double-nuts on the ballscrews?
[19:46:35] <cradek> yes, surely so, although I haven't seen one yet
[19:46:52] <cradek> they may even be adjustable for wear (with shims)
[19:46:53] <seb_kuzminsky> is the table and head on dovetails?
[19:47:00] <cradek> no, it's linear rails
[19:47:10] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, nice machine chris
[19:47:24] <cradek> yeah I hope mothing major is wrong - it's good so far :-)
[19:56:48] <Jymmm> Fuuuuuck, that project started from a HF mini mill ?!
[19:57:05] <seb_kuzminsky> Jymmm: well, a couple, i think, but yes
[19:57:30] <Jymmm> http://www.hossmachine.info/images/IMG_1226edit_800x600.jpg
[19:59:37] <Jymmm> Is the spindle in the HF mill that good???
[20:00:25] <archivist> the column seems too narrow
[20:00:36] <Jymmm> http://www.hossmachine.info/images/IMG_0645_800x600.jpg
[20:00:50] <numen> anyone here working with solidcam?
[20:03:58] <EbiDK|AWAY> http://abstrusegoose.com/171 :p
[20:05:26] <robh_> hi
[20:06:01] <robh_> has any one throught about adding a M19 function for spindle positioning
[20:08:08] <archivist> or should the spindle be treated exactly as an axis like A or B rotaries
[20:08:56] <numen> any one here, who can give me an crashcourse in solidcam?
[20:09:05] <robh_> M19 Sxx is standard to postion spindle on mill or lathe
[20:09:38] <robh_> i used it very long time ago numen should be some tutorials in help
[20:21:54] <Jymmm> Heh, that ScopeMeter even has an analog scale in the sw.
[20:22:19] <numen> robh_ i allready tried :(
[20:22:54] <robh_> is it demo or full
[20:23:05] <numen> full
[20:23:07] <robh_> demo i not tryed maybe they took them out
[20:23:20] <robh_> full used to have them in help menu or as PDFs in install folder
[20:23:48] <numen> hmmm
[20:26:04] <robh_> im sure theres website some where that has tutorials
[20:28:51] <numen> my problem is the english :(
[20:30:18] <robh_> menus i found pritty ok, if u understnad machiing u can use it to some exstent for 2.5D 3D takes abit more button bashin
[20:32:05] <robh_> any one in here around when they did the mazak? did its spindle drive take -10v - +10v or was a new vfd fitted for it?
[20:36:01] <SWPadnos> I don't recall if it's the original or a new VFD, but it does take 0-10V for speed commands
[20:36:17] <SWPadnos> I'm also unsure as to whether it's +/-10 or o-10 plus direction inputs
[20:36:35] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: http://cgi.ebay.com/UT81B-portable-Scope-Digital-Multimeters-8M-bandwidth_W0QQitemZ220305939972QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item334b41de04&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[20:36:38] <robh_> was just looking at demo config file to see how they closed spindle loop on tool change location
[20:37:03] <SWPadnos> it's pretty slow PID - the response of the VFD isn't so hot
[20:37:04] <robh_> as all VFDs on my mills lathe etc are 0 -10v only with fw,rev inputs
[20:37:44] <SWPadnos> that's no bug deal. EMC outputs a signed number to HAL, which then deals with it however necessary
[20:37:48] <robh_> spindle drives need realy are but only need a 2/3degree window realy to change tool, or turn a touch probe to probe
[20:38:02] <SWPadnos> you'll have issues if you need to flip relays, but optos should be OK
[20:39:28] <robh_> i see with the spindle drives that have the orientation cards in our mills also they do is switch from fwd rev to hold a postion in window as no torque at low speed on spindle
[20:41:19] <robh_> on my leadwell i refitted it just had input for spindle orientation which takes care of it all for you. but as the drive is now down/not working just looking at whats around to replace it if i cant fix the dam thing
[20:41:21] <SWPadnos> Jymmm, it looks slow and low res to me, but you know me
[20:41:51] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Well, it's not a $50K scope =)
[20:58:48] <GammaX> Jymmm, im lookin at those 2... I want one but im affraid it will just mess me up... since I know nothing haha
[21:31:33] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Is it better than nothing (for what it is)?
[21:32:15] <GammaX> Jymmm, have you checked out the other kinds on there? there was a better model I saw for around 400 I believe. BUt yet a gain I dont know anything about them
[21:32:58] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: I really don't have a NEED for a scope, but having one around might come in handy once in a while. I want to play with uC eventually as well.
[21:33:29] <Jymmm> GammaX: I've seen the others, I'm just looking at cheap. Like I said, I don't NEED one.
[21:34:19] <GammaX> Jymmm, im in the same boat as you. Although I realy want to get an extremely nice multimeter... possibly a fluke and another non portable one for smt repair
[22:06:16] <Jymmm> Is creating a DXF creation lib worth while?
[22:07:06] <Jymmm> or just ue exiting tools to convert from svg to dxf?
[22:07:12] <Jymmm> s/ue/use/
[22:09:27] <mikeggg> so i have an e-stop switch wired to the enable pin on my servo amps
[22:09:32] <mikeggg> works fine
[22:09:49] <mikeggg> check the command voltage with drives disabled
[22:09:52] <mikeggg> 0 v
[22:10:24] <mikeggg> enable the drives, and one of them spins up and the command voltage reads ~0.5 volts
[22:10:25] <Jymmm> what happens in the wire to the amps gets cut?
[22:10:27] <mikeggg> any guesses
[22:10:29] <Jymmm> s/in/if/
[22:10:59] <mikeggg> was thinking ground loop
[22:11:19] <Jymmm> goes your e-stop switch kill the spindle too?
[22:11:26] <Jymmm> does
[22:11:26] <mikeggg> no
[22:11:59] <mikeggg> on the amp, it has a not enabled pin
[22:12:05] <Jymmm> So it's more of a stop button, not a EMERGENCY-STOP?
[22:12:07] <mikeggg> when you ground it, the drive is disabled
[22:12:49] <mikeggg> yeah, right now it's a servo amp on/off switch
[22:14:16] <Jymmm> Sorry, it's jsut that ppl use the term "E-STOP" ambigously. When they really mean an "oh shit" button, and not a "Somebody s about to get seriously injured" button.
[22:14:57] <mikeggg> well mcmaster doesn't sell oh-shit buttons
[22:15:10] <mikeggg> heh
[22:15:11] <Jymmm> Wanna bet?
[22:15:15] <mikeggg> they should
[22:16:01] <Jymmm> No, ppl should consider EMERGENCY STOP for what it is, in case of emergency, not because they or something screwed up.
[22:17:21] <mikeggg> yep, was ground loop
[22:17:34] <mikeggg> was using shielded twisted pair on that command wire
[22:17:43] <mikeggg> had it grounded on one end
[22:17:50] <GammaX> Estop is just a glorified limit switch... in my case atleast
[22:17:54] <mikeggg> just cut it, problem is gone
[22:18:10] <mikeggg> well i guess that's not technically a ground loop
[22:18:48] <GammaX> mikeggg, you can hook it into ur controller board and make that the reset...
[22:18:50] <GammaX> thats what I did
[22:20:08] <mikeggg> right. just ordered a 7i37TA for that yesterday
[22:28:55] <GammaX> nice. Is this a retro fit?
[22:33:31] <mikeggg> no
[22:33:49] <mikeggg> my company is developing a machine tool
[22:34:20] <mikeggg> though I have an old south bend lathe in my dad's garage I would love to convert
[22:45:27] <mikeggg> anyone know how to run the m5i20_pidtest.hal?
[22:45:42] <mikeggg> HAL: ERROR: thread 'm5i20.threa1' not foundm5i20pidtest.hal:25: addf failed
[22:45:58] <mikeggg> it's throwing an error
[22:51:36] <SWPadnos> if that's pasted in (rather than trasncribed), then you have some errors in the files
[22:51:52] <mikeggg> it is pasted
[22:52:45] <SWPadnos> then something is terribly wrong. The formatting of the erorr message looks wrong to me
[22:53:09] <SWPadnos> (I'm pretty sure there should be a space between the word "found" and the name of the file, m5i20pidtest.hal)
[22:53:24] <mikeggg> ah, there is
[22:53:33] <SWPadnos> so much for copy/paste ;)
[22:54:38] <mikeggg> well that was my bad
[22:54:49] <mikeggg> copy paste put a strange char in there
[22:55:16] <mikeggg> in my haste i didn't get the space back in
[22:55:25] <SWPadnos> and the "m5i20.threa1" - is that correct?
[22:55:30] <mikeggg> yes
[22:55:46] <SWPadnos> did you copy/paste when downloading the file?
[22:56:07] <mikeggg> which file m5i20_pidtest.hal?
[22:56:16] <mikeggg> not actually sure where I got that....
[22:56:28] <SWPadnos> me either. I'm looking for it now
[22:56:38] <mikeggg> might have been anders wallin
[22:57:04] <mikeggg> i put some stuff in the config directory that displays sliders for the following error
[22:57:16] <mikeggg> but those don't work yet
[22:58:41] <SWPadnos> wiki or are you using the hal_m5i20 driver or the hostmot2 driver?
[22:58:44] <SWPadnos> -wiki
[22:59:37] <SWPadnos> this file: http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blob_plain;f=configs/m5i20/m5i20_pidtest.hal;h=da068f92390bee01b42ed5b193dd1af7d72385b2;hb=HEAD is for testing with the old m5i20 driver, not the newer hostmot2 driver
[22:59:57] <SWPadnos> the file is included in the distribution (in the m5i20 sample config directory)
[23:00:11] <mikeggg> right, that's it
[23:00:39] <SWPadnos> you have typos in your file if the error you pasted is correct
[23:00:54] <mikeggg> went through the front end and chose the m5i20 servo sample...then told it to save the config files to my dir
[23:01:05] <mikeggg> which file?
[23:01:35] <mikeggg> oh, that is loading the m5i20 driver, not hostmot2
[23:02:05] <SWPadnos> correct
[23:02:15] <mikeggg> both of them
[23:02:28] <mikeggg> how do I tell it to use hostmot 2
[23:02:28] <SWPadnos> and there's no 1 in the thread name in the file on the web, so the one you have is wrong, or the error is incorrectly transcribed
[23:05:39] <SWPadnos> it would need some editing to use hostmot2. all the pin and function names are different (hm2_pci.xxx), and I think the watchdog has different requirements
[23:05:53] <SWPadnos> bbl. food
[23:05:58] <mikeggg> ok, thanks