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    [00:17:28] <dmess> hi all 
    
[00:19:05] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.ca/img/aJ2jSp2.jpg 
    [00:19:52] <dmess> someone's ready to hit the switch ;) 
    
[00:20:31] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.ca/img/oaiKhtJ.jpg 
    [00:21:55] <skunkworks> little better picture of the siding 
http://imagebin.ca/img/jrjnbJa.jpg 
    [00:22:20] <SWPadnos> cool stuff 
    
[00:22:25] <skunkworks> getting there 
    
[00:22:26] <SWPadnos> what kind of siding is that? 
    
[00:22:39] <skunkworks> vinyl 
    
[00:22:49] <skunkworks> certenteed(sp) 
    
[00:23:00] <skunkworks> seems like it is pretty decent 
    
[00:23:03] <SWPadnos> ah, ok 
    
[00:23:28] <skunkworks> thicker because it is a darker color 
    
[00:24:32] <skunkworks> Need to get everything ready to go - so when they come to disconnect the house and connect the garage we have very little down time. 
    
[00:24:50] <skunkworks> (backfeeding the house from the garage) 
    
[00:31:02] <Jymmm> skunkworks: WTF?! 
    
[00:31:24] <Jymmm> skunkworks: That aint a 400 Amp service 
    
[00:32:09] <Jymmm> skunkworks: have you had/used siding like that before? 
    
[00:33:32] <Jymmm> skunkworks: I like that you raised the sides up 6" or so from the foundation 
    
[00:38:40] <skunkworks> I have not used this brand.  used cheaper. 
    
[00:39:15] <skunkworks> This stuff has the material folded over where the nail slots are..  So it is a lot stronger there. 
    
[00:40:21] <Jymmm> it doesn't dry out and crack or anything? 
    
[00:40:24] <skunkworks> also - once it is popped together to the previous row - it is very hard to get back apart.  
    
[00:40:25] <Jymmm> (in general) 
    
[00:41:11] <skunkworks> The stuff I have used seemed to be more brittle.  This stuff doesn't seem to fracture. 
    
[00:41:21] <skunkworks> time will tell 
    
[00:41:37] <Jymmm> much mouch $$$? 
    
[00:42:19] <Jymmm> to cover the garage with siding 
    
[00:44:27] <Jymmm> skunkworks: Why do you need a meter for the garage alone? Can't tap into the existing? 
    
[00:52:23] <skunkworks> The house is only a 125 amp service.  So I will run 200 amp service into the garage and run the house off of that. 
    
[00:53:48] <skunkworks> I don't feel like changing that breaker box out. :) 
    
[00:54:08] <skunkworks> (also - don't really see the house needing more than that) 
    
[00:54:19] <Jymmm> House no, shop yes! 
    
[01:01:55] <Jymmm> skunkworks: How else you going to power the 18,000 christmas lights =) 
    
[01:02:24] <Jymmm> skunkworks: per sq ft =) 
    
[01:35:06] <Goslowjimbo> I can't seem to get the sspi function of the 7i43 board to work.  Does anyone know what a raw dump on the syslog should look like for the working SPI interface? 
    
[01:35:36] <Goslowjimbo> http://pastebin.com/m2bb85d1 
    [01:40:30] <Goslowjimbo> http://pastebin.com/m7ae7e8cc is the SPI component. 
    
[01:45:14] <Goslowjimbo> Raw dump is the only instruction I am sure has worked in raw mode.  
    
[02:41:05] <pcw_home> Goslowjimbo: (if you read the logs) at least one problem I can see at a glance:  
    
[02:41:07] <pcw_home> the SPI rate register value (0) gives a SPI clock (25 MHz)  which is too fast for the 7I64 
    
[02:41:08] <pcw_home> A value of 2 should be used which gives a SPI clock of 8.33 MHz 
    
[02:44:26] <pcw_home> If I get a chance I'll hand verify the setup and post a working setup script on Monday 
    
[02:44:53] <SWPadnos> pcw_home, do you have a spare 7I64 around? 
    
[02:47:02] <SWPadnos> oh hey, they're for sale now.  nevermind 
    
[02:50:25] <pcw_home> Yes got production boards now plus a proto of you want to play with one 
    
[02:51:24] <SWPadnos> I may want to play around with the USB mode 
    
[02:52:41] <pcw_home> OK Ill look in ye old junk pile 
    
[02:52:51] <SWPadnos> heh.  thanks :) 
    
[02:53:02] <SWPadnos> then again, I may play with the SPI mode instead :) 
    
[02:53:31] <pcw_home> It does either, just not both at once 
    
[02:53:38] <SWPadnos> yep 
    
[02:54:06] <SWPadnos> hmm.  same price a sa 5i20 
    
[02:54:08] <SWPadnos> as a 
    
[02:54:32] <SWPadnos> isolated though 
    
[02:55:25] <SWPadnos> damn.  I never did buy myself a 7i43.  I really should get one of those on order 
    
[02:55:26] <pcw_home> its all the _individually_ isolated I/O, we may make a version with commons on inputs and outputs thats cheaper (isolated at SPI) 
    
[02:55:41] <SWPadnos> ok, interesting 
    
[02:56:04] <SWPadnos> do you have 7i43 in stock? 
    
[02:56:19] <SWPadnos> (well, at work, not at home :) ) 
    
[02:56:22] <pcw_home> Yep just got the REV C cards in  
    
[02:56:33] <SWPadnos> cool.  200k and 400k? 
    
[02:56:38] <pcw_home> both 
    
[02:56:48] <pcw_home> (mostly 400K) 
    
[02:56:51] <SWPadnos> great.  I'll try to remember to order one on Monday 
    
[03:25:32] <SWPadnos> pcw_home, I think I see an error in the 7i64 manual 
    
[03:25:54] <SWPadnos> page 15 (19 of the PDF), the write example table 
    
[03:26:27] <SWPadnos> the write address is set to 8, not 0 as the text above describes 
    
[03:27:01] <SWPadnos> (the LSB has a 1 in the AI column, probably a copy/paste error) 
    
[03:27:58] <SWPadnos> oh hmm.  and the read example too.  The AS bit should be 0 to specify "the current address", but it's a 1 in the table 
    
[03:52:26] <cradek> tonight we bored the other two pulleys and milled the other two motor mounts for jepler's servo conversion 
    
[03:52:54] <cradek> everything worked great.  I got perfect .749 bores with the boring head.  (that never works!) 
    
[03:53:35] <toastydeath> awesome! 
    
[03:53:42] <pcw_home> OK thanks SWPadnos its a copy paste error from the 7I43 manual I think 
    
[03:53:43] <toastydeath> when a boring head works it is like a victory lap 
    
[03:53:43] <pcw_home> Ill fix it Monday 
    
[03:53:45] <toastydeath> around the shop 
    
[03:53:46] <toastydeath> is necessary 
    
[04:04:53] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/imag0041.jpg 
    [04:05:03] <cradek> haha, here's a terrible photo I took while we were making the last one 
    
[04:15:29] <SWPadnos> pcw_home, cool.  I'm sure Monday is soon enough :) 
    
[04:15:46] <SWPadnos> in other news - woohoo!  I found a place to buy an M19x1.0mm tap 
    
[04:18:02] <cradek> not mcmaster!? 
    
[04:18:07] <SWPadnos> nope 
    
[04:18:10] <SWPadnos> nor MSC 
    
[04:18:14] <cradek> wow 
    
[04:18:36] <SWPadnos> there's one seller on eBay, but they're in the UK and they want GBP 55 each 
    
[04:18:46] <cradek> ouch 
    
[04:18:53] <SWPadnos> they're $22.00 here:  
http://www.victornet.com/ 
    [04:18:55] <cradek> I figured the price would be cringeworthy no matter what 
    
[04:19:06] <cradek> I think that's surprisingly cheap 
    
[04:19:09] <SWPadnos> yeah 
    
[04:19:56] <cradek> ouch, their website 
    
[04:20:00] <SWPadnos> heh 
    
[04:20:05] <cradek> but they have an amazing selection of taps 
    
[04:20:18] <SWPadnos> yep.  and lots of drills and other things too 
    
[04:22:09] <SWPadnos> oh.  they have a reasonable selection of square cutting tools, in carbide and cobalt 
    
[04:22:15] <SWPadnos> at about $1-2.50 each 
    
[04:22:23] <cradek> oh lathe bits? 
    
[04:22:27] <SWPadnos> yep 
    
[04:22:38] <cradek> I like to have a huge pile of those around.  I grind them into all sorts of crazy stuff. 
    
[04:23:14] <SWPadnos> oh, maybe I didn't see carbide, but they do have cobalt 
    
[04:23:38] <cradek> I still can't grind carbide...  I should get with the times. 
    
[04:23:40] <SWPadnos> look on the "other HS cutting Tools & Blades" -> Fly Cutters page 
    
[04:24:20] <SWPadnos> cobalt may be better for some lathe stuff.  it doesn't chip like carbide, but is quite hard 
    
[04:25:40] <SWPadnos> oops.  I guess I got the prices wrong too 
    
[05:59:25] <Jymmm> I gotta say, the illegal fireworks around here are pretty cool! 
    
[07:55:05] <Valen> muwhhaaha I own my nick again 
    
[08:33:34] <acemi_> acemi_ is now known as acemi 
    
[10:12:37] <EbiDK> EbiDK is now known as EbiDK|AWAY 
    
[12:57:02] <BigJohnT> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,26/id,486/lang,en/ 
    [13:34:54] <cradek> BigJohnT: I just hand-write my lathe gcode.  I wish I had something better but I don't. 
    
[13:36:31] <cradek> on the other hand, I never seem to do complex shapes.  one or two arcs or tapers is about as fancy as I ever get. 
    
[13:36:37] <BigJohnT> cradek: thanks 
    
[13:36:43] <cradek> not much help :-) 
    
[13:37:24] <BigJohnT> I actually started once a dxf to g code for a lathe but it got lost in the shuffle 
    
[13:38:32] <cradek> I'd like emc to have some kind of roughing/finishing cycle 
    
[13:38:51] <cradek> that combined with an extremely simple dxf to gcode (like a slightly hacked REALIZE) would be pretty effective 
    
[13:39:03] <cradek> but, I haven't written it - it's not easy. 
    
[13:39:11] <BigJohnT> my buddy has that on his Anilam lathe 
    
[13:39:44] <BigJohnT> another cool thing he has is chamfer with the MPG 
    
[13:40:03] <cradek> that's easy - you can do it in hal 
    
[13:40:44] <cradek> heh, I guess I just use a file - I did that yesterday 
    
[13:40:58] <cradek> I should set up the hal for it. 
    
[13:42:16] <BigJohnT> he toggles back and forth between X, Z and chamfer to move the tool bit to the work and put a quick chamfer on a part 
    
[13:42:57] <cradek> yeah I'm picturing a 3-way switch by the jogwheel for that 
    
[13:43:52] <SWPadnos> and a knob to set the angle :) 
    
[13:44:14] <cradek> yeah, easy 
    
[13:44:21] <cradek> (but you always want 45) 
    
[13:44:30] <SWPadnos> not me, not me :) 
    
[13:44:42] <cradek> 45 and 60? 
    
[13:44:47] <SWPadnos> (you can tell I don't machine much, huh) 
    
[13:44:54] <SWPadnos> yeah, I was thinking about 60 
    
[13:44:56] <cradek> haha 
    
[13:45:08] <BigJohnT> 60 which way? 
    
[13:45:14] <SWPadnos> ayes 
    
[13:45:17] <SWPadnos> yes 
    
[13:45:19] <cradek> for the beginning of a thread you might think you want 60, but I think 45 still works better 
    
[15:45:49] <Jymmm> I gotta say, the illegal fireworks around here are pretty cool! 
    
[15:48:33] <Jymmm> Someone setup this one that lasted a full 5 minutes, screamed, and shot up about 40 feet. I think it was a bunch of them chained together somehow, because there was like a 3s pause, then went off again. 
    
[15:49:01] <Jymmm> I gotta head over there and see if there's a hole in the ground. LOL 
    
[16:16:12] <Goslowjimbo> pcw_home:  Thanks for your kind support.  I evidently mis-read the application of the clock generator. 
    
[16:17:30] <Goslowjimbo> There may be something else happening that I am not aware of.  I hadn't tried to work the table or spindle since I started working on the SPI interface. 
    
[16:18:35] <Goslowjimbo> Since my oldest was home for the 4th, I decided to show off the works.   I couldn't get any of the axis to work. 
    
[16:19:30] <Goslowjimbo> I'll try to research that some today, and see If I can find a solution to at least that portion of the puzzle. 
    
[16:27:32] <Goslowjimbo> skunkworks:  I have been saving up for years to build a new house.  Then the economy falls apart, and I found a house for about half it's original price.  Didn't feel I could turn it down. 
    
[16:30:30] <cradek> it's funny - mine's value is back down to exactly what I bought it for 
    
[16:30:40] <Goslowjimbo> Is your garage going to be the machine shed also? 
    
[16:30:49] <cradek> which is great - lower taxes to pay 
    
[16:32:12] <Goslowjimbo> Yeah, I get to pay a lot more in taxes.  This one has 6 bedrooms. 
    
[16:33:34] <Goslowjimbo> Gotta go now.  I'm holding up the festivities.  Bye. 
    
[16:35:39] <Jymmm> cradek: at least it isn't in the red 
    
[16:36:19] <cradek> Jymmm: well I don't care one bit what its value does - it's where I live and that's only important if I want to sell it, which I don't 
    
[16:37:07] <Jymmm> Well if it goes in the red, you're paying more than it's worth is what I mean. 
    
[16:37:33] <Jymmm> If your mortgage is $250K and it's worth $200K 
    
[16:37:35] <cradek> fortunately I bought it back when prices were sane 
    
[16:38:15] <Jymmm> good for you =) 
    
[16:38:51] <Jymmm> around here ppl were insane paying $1.2M for a $850K home 
    
[16:39:03] <Jymmm> and are *SO* screwed now. 
    
[16:40:09] <cradek> they're only screwed if it isn't worth $1.2M for them to live there - and if it isn't, why did they buy it for that? 
    
[16:40:43] <cradek> I just don't understand this stuff 
    
[16:40:59] <Jymmm> They worked for a pharamacutical company and could afford it at the time 
    
[16:41:19] <Jymmm> housing was hard ti find at the time 
    
[16:41:30] <cradek> I think people were buying houses to get rich (because prices will always increase!!) instead of to have a place to live - they were crazy. 
    
[16:42:05] <Jymmm> Yep 
    
[16:42:06] <BigJohnT> I bought my house from the local lumber yard... 
    
[16:42:26] <BigJohnT> one truck full at a time :) 
    
[16:42:37] <Jymmm> You beat me to it 
    
[16:43:20] <Jymmm> Well the land values around here are still obscene... like $650K, improvements $50K 
    
[16:43:41] <Jymmm> where improvements are the house itself 
    
[16:44:21] <cradek> heh, wow 
    
[16:44:47] <Jymmm> And that's from the County Assesors records 
    
[16:44:49] <Jymmm> (sp) 
    
[16:45:12] <cradek> don't need insurance - if the house burns down you lose 7% of your value... 
    
[16:45:52] <Jymmm> No, get the insurance, if it burns save the money and sell the land outright 
    
[16:46:06] <Jymmm> $50k Profit 
    
[16:46:39] <anonimasu> toastydeath: awake? 
    
[16:49:01] <Jymmm> s/awake?/on the planet?/ 
    
[16:49:18] <anonimasu> haha 
    
[16:49:19] <anonimasu> indeed 
    
[16:51:09] <Jymmm> Well, i guess I should stop screwing around and learn to program this robot 
    
[16:51:49] <anonimasu> hehe 
    
[16:51:56] <anonimasu> im designing a lathe 
    
[16:51:57] <anonimasu> :) 
    
[16:53:20] <Jymmm> Heh, this is to learn python - not a tangible robot. 
    
[16:53:29] <anonimasu> I see :) 
    
[16:53:57] <anonimasu> though im doing stiffness calcs.. and to get it stiff enough it'll be $$$$$$ 
    
[16:54:10] <Jymmm> Viagra? 
    
[16:54:20] <anonimasu> indeed 
    
[16:54:53] <anonimasu> seems like linear slides arent too awesome in small sizes.. 
    
[16:55:31] <Jymmm> Does anyone know if it's possible to make a airflow meter using a 3 wire muffin fan? 
    
[16:55:36] <Jymmm> s/a/an/ 
    
[16:56:30] <Jymmm> I saw some handheld ones, and they look like a muffin fan and a LCD display 
    
[16:57:27] <anonimasu> sure you can, though it depends a bit if you have a reference to calibrate it against 
    
[16:57:50] <Jymmm> Heh, that's the problem... no reference 
    
[16:58:42] <Jymmm> I really want to measure CFM 
    
[16:59:01] <anonimasu> then you need a reference to calibrate your meter against 
    
[16:59:54] <Jymmm> A $2 hooker? 
    
[17:01:15] <anonimasu> mm, or a calibrated meter 
    
[17:01:27] <Jymmm> mm ? 
    
[17:02:55] <anonimasu> haha, if your hooker can blow a known cfm :] 
    
[17:03:04] <anonimasu> 400Nm isnt too shabby.. 
    
[17:03:32] <Jymmm> Took ya long enough to get that =) 
    
[17:03:47] <anonimasu> but, that's with 5mm deflection 
    
[17:03:51] <cradek> seems like you could use an auto MAF sensor ... somehow 
    
[17:04:06] <anonimasu> that would work, but he cant calibrate that either :) 
    
[17:04:08] <Jymmm> cradek: They are $169 
    
[17:04:21] <cradek> heck I could buy a whole car for that 
    
[17:04:22] <Jymmm> Tha handheld ones are $150 
    
[17:04:28] <Jymmm> cradek: no doubt 
    
[17:04:37] <anonimasu> go to the store and try one :D 
    
[17:04:55] <Jymmm> anonimasu: all I saw were online 
    
[17:06:17] <Jymmm> http://www.goodmart.com/products/1200650.htm 
    [17:06:17] <anonimasu> I see 
    
[17:06:34] <anonimasu> http://www.solectro.se/Archive/Documents/Produktblad/LFS-8-3.pdf 
    [17:06:43] <anonimasu> can someone look at this and tell me if im getting it right 
    
[17:07:07] <anonimasu> at 500mm I should have 0.0mm of deflection with 100N loading 
    
[17:07:57] <Jymmm> Dont those use HDPE ? 
    
[17:09:04] <Jymmm> Oh V-Groove rollers 
    
[17:18:38] <skunkworks> we bought this housing crisis - they had already lowered it 60K or so.   
    
[17:19:04] <skunkworks> (it really was not worth what they where asking initially. 
    
[17:19:28] <skunkworks> (even during the boom) 
    
[17:20:38] <anonimasu> no, roller carrige 
    
[17:22:01] <Jymmm> For? 
    
[17:22:35] <skunkworks> wow - I think I have heat stroke.   
    
[17:22:49] <skunkworks> we bought this house *during* the housing crisis 
    
[17:23:34] <Jymmm> skunkworks: QUICK jump in the freezer for 4 hours! 
    
[17:23:54] <skunkworks> heh - it really isn't too bad today - as long as you are not directly in the sun 
    
[17:24:20] <Jymmm> nauseous? 
    
[17:24:36] <Jymmm> light headed? 
    
[17:27:49] <Jymmm> you sure it isn't a hangover?  lol 
    
[17:29:59] <anonimasu> err ball carridge 
    
[17:30:47] <jtr> Jymmm: 
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Monitor/  about 2/3 of the way down for airflow meter discussion 
    
[17:31:46] <Jymmm> looking... 
    
[17:38:59] <Jymmm> jtr: Was already thinking of using a 3 wire fan, it's finding a refernce that's the issue. 
    
[17:39:03] <Jymmm> reference 
    
[17:39:21] <Jymmm> good to know about the "cog" ring though. 
    
[17:43:12] <Jymmm> Heh, I do like the $3 data logger...  
http://ca.geocities.com/site@rogers.com/logger.html 
    [17:47:18] <Jymmm> BAH.... "I have not taken the time to calibrate my anemometer before installing it, so I cannot map it's rotation speed to wind speed. However, I'm able to see how the wind fluctuates."   
http://www.raphnet.net/divers/anemometre/anemometer_en.php  OH so close *sigh* 
    
[17:48:23] <jtr> Calibrate using the speedometer on your car... 
    
[17:48:34] <jtr> * jtr is out to lunch 
    
[17:48:43] <jtr> oh, that didn't come out right... 
    
[17:49:08] <Jymmm> maybe it did =) 
    
[17:49:59] <Jymmm> Can MPH be converted to CFM? 
    
[17:51:52] <Jymmm> http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28064 
    [18:13:51] <cradek> mph has units distance/time, cfm is volume/time.  so you're off by a factor of 'area' 
    
[18:14:33] <cradek> if you can measure air speed in mph and you know the area it's going through (like the velocity of the air going through a pipe), you can calculate cfm by multiplying by the cross sectional area of the pipe. 
    
[18:14:41] <Jymmm> If I get a muffin fan, I could look at the datasheet to get the area of the opeoning 
    
[18:14:44] <cradek> and massaging your crazy american units accordingly, of course 
    
[18:15:12] <cradek> yes, or simply measure the diameter 
    
[18:30:35] <tomp> is there a channel for heekscad? 
    
[18:30:51] <BigJohnT> #cam 
    
[18:31:11] <tomp> thx 
    
[18:31:17] <tomp> join #cam 
    
[18:31:38] <tomp> argh 
    
[18:41:30] <Jymmm> cradek: you ARE a crazy American unit!!! 
    
[19:08:42] <Jymmm> Hmmm, I wonder if I could use a fan with known specs as a reference 
    
[19:09:40] <Jymmm> Would a larger fan (120mm -vs- 60mm) be more accurate? 
    
[19:11:08] <cradek> the center hub on the fan doesn't let air through, so you need to measure that and the hole diameter both 
    
[19:11:25] <archivist> consumer fan and accurate !!!! 
    
[19:13:13] <Jymmm> I know I need to measure the donut 
    
[19:13:46] <Jymmm> but does the size of the fan make a difference other than for calibration? 
    
[19:13:57] <cradek> a fan with a 4" hole and 1" hub gives about 12 in^2 area, at 20mph velocity that gives 146 cfm 
    
[19:17:43] <Jymmm> Since I really want to measure CFM, and not speed, using a larger fan as a sensor seems reasonable.  
    
[19:18:53] <Jymmm> Or it be like pushing the output of a 20" fan thru a 4" duct. 
    
[19:19:29] <archivist> 4" duct WITH an impediment 
    
[19:19:30] <cradek> you should call up your local heating/ac places and see if they would loan you their device 
    
[19:19:47] <cradek> I've seen the guys walk around my office with the thing they hold up to the ceiling vents 
    
[19:20:03] <archivist> a real air flow meter would be best 
    
[19:20:04] <cradek> at least you know it'd be close to right 
    
[19:20:08] <Jymmm> cradek: That be for calibration I'd think 
    
[19:20:49] <Jymmm> I have a fan with a known 60 CFM I could use as a pseudo reference at least. 
    
[19:21:19] <archivist> only known if the load is the same 
    
[19:21:58] <Jymmm> then find a long straight road and see if the 20MPH calcs the same. 
    
[19:22:29] <Jymmm> archivist: What load? shove the output of the faninto the sensor one 
    
[19:22:47] <archivist> heh think 
    
[19:23:07] <archivist> any restriction to flow is a load 
    
[19:23:35] <Jymmm> archivist: I'm not going to reduce the flow to any less that what the fan is  
    
[19:24:11] <archivist> another being used for measurement IS a load 
    
[19:24:20] <Jymmm> If the fan is 60mm and I use a 120mm sensor, would make sense that any load would be very minimal 
    
[19:24:39] <Jymmm> If what that artical says anyway 
    
[19:25:10] <archivist> ah ,, random web article must be right 
    
[19:25:29] <Jymmm> archivist: DUH... Everything you read on the internet is right silly! 
    
[19:25:36] <BigJohnT_> I did a butterfly wing in NURBs :) 
    
[19:26:18] <archivist> I am quoting for an airflow measuring and controlling job 
    
[19:29:15] <Jymmm> archivist: I'm just trying to get an idea of the effective cooling of a 20" box fan mounted to a 24"x24"x36" enclosed 14U rack 
    
[19:30:25] <Jymmm> archivist: I'm trying find an alternative to the 3x 15K RPM screaming banshee fans per server. 
    
[19:30:29] <archivist> read specs, get fan measure pressure in the box compare with cfm at that pressure load in the spec 
    
[19:31:10] <Jymmm> archivist: But I need somethign to READ the pressure first, thus the 3 wire fans 
    
[19:31:16] <archivist> as the pressure rises the fan will stall 
    
[19:31:52] <archivist> stall in the sense of no flow 
    
[19:31:57] <Jymmm> Yeah, I already shoved the fan on it's face on the ground to measure that factor =) 
    
[19:32:12] <Jymmm> It has no balls 
    
[19:33:01] <Jymmm> no hovercraft candidates here =) 
    
[19:33:32] <Jymmm> I hit 5 stores looking for others, all the same damn Lasko brand - POS 
    
[19:35:07] <Jymmm> It says it's 3880 CFM, not sure if I trust that at all. 
    
[19:35:42] <Jymmm> archivist: Like you said... no load it's probably 3880 CFM 
    
[19:39:32] <BigJohnT_> BigJohnT_ is now known as BigJohnT 
    
[20:23:50] <Guest739> has anyone installed emc2 on ubuntu 9.04 
    
[20:27:24] <archivist> you would need to install the realtime kernel etc, I believe it has been done a few times  
    
[20:28:00] <archivist> why do you want 9.04 
    
[20:39:11] <Guest739> its just whats installed on here and it finds my wireless straight away 
    
[20:39:53] <Jymmm> As in on a laptop? 
    
[20:40:00] <Guest739> yes  
    
[20:40:20] <Guest739> i know its not good running emc2 on here but i just want simulation on it 
    
[20:40:37] <Jymmm> you could just use a livecd 
    
[20:40:41] <Jymmm> s/a/the/ 
    
[20:41:22] <Guest739> but then i have the problem of the wireless card not working on ubuntu 8.04 
    
[20:41:33] <Jymmm> so plug it in? 
    
[20:41:42] <Guest739> its built in 
    
[20:41:57] <Jymmm> So pug it into your network 
    
[20:41:59] <Jymmm> plug 
    
[20:42:03] <Guest739> works fine on this version just dont seam gto be able to get it to run on 8.04 mind im a novice 
    
[20:45:18] <Guest739> problem with plugging it in is that i dont have a p of the routercable longth enough to reach so i would be sat on to 
    
[20:46:06] <Guest739> top of the router 
    
[20:52:17] <frallzor> yo 
    
[20:54:27] <alex_joni> good night all 
    
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[21:24:16] <cradek> yay!