#emc | Logs for 2009-07-05

[00:17:28] <dmess> hi all
[00:19:05] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.ca/img/aJ2jSp2.jpg
[00:19:52] <dmess> someone's ready to hit the switch ;)
[00:20:31] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.ca/img/oaiKhtJ.jpg
[00:21:55] <skunkworks> little better picture of the siding http://imagebin.ca/img/jrjnbJa.jpg
[00:22:20] <SWPadnos> cool stuff
[00:22:25] <skunkworks> getting there
[00:22:26] <SWPadnos> what kind of siding is that?
[00:22:39] <skunkworks> vinyl
[00:22:49] <skunkworks> certenteed(sp)
[00:23:00] <skunkworks> seems like it is pretty decent
[00:23:03] <SWPadnos> ah, ok
[00:23:28] <skunkworks> thicker because it is a darker color
[00:24:32] <skunkworks> Need to get everything ready to go - so when they come to disconnect the house and connect the garage we have very little down time.
[00:24:50] <skunkworks> (backfeeding the house from the garage)
[00:31:02] <Jymmm> skunkworks: WTF?!
[00:31:24] <Jymmm> skunkworks: That aint a 400 Amp service
[00:32:09] <Jymmm> skunkworks: have you had/used siding like that before?
[00:33:32] <Jymmm> skunkworks: I like that you raised the sides up 6" or so from the foundation
[00:38:40] <skunkworks> I have not used this brand. used cheaper.
[00:39:15] <skunkworks> This stuff has the material folded over where the nail slots are.. So it is a lot stronger there.
[00:40:21] <Jymmm> it doesn't dry out and crack or anything?
[00:40:24] <skunkworks> also - once it is popped together to the previous row - it is very hard to get back apart.
[00:40:25] <Jymmm> (in general)
[00:41:11] <skunkworks> The stuff I have used seemed to be more brittle. This stuff doesn't seem to fracture.
[00:41:21] <skunkworks> time will tell
[00:41:37] <Jymmm> much mouch $$$?
[00:42:19] <Jymmm> to cover the garage with siding
[00:44:27] <Jymmm> skunkworks: Why do you need a meter for the garage alone? Can't tap into the existing?
[00:52:23] <skunkworks> The house is only a 125 amp service. So I will run 200 amp service into the garage and run the house off of that.
[00:53:48] <skunkworks> I don't feel like changing that breaker box out. :)
[00:54:08] <skunkworks> (also - don't really see the house needing more than that)
[00:54:19] <Jymmm> House no, shop yes!
[01:01:55] <Jymmm> skunkworks: How else you going to power the 18,000 christmas lights =)
[01:02:24] <Jymmm> skunkworks: per sq ft =)
[01:35:06] <Goslowjimbo> I can't seem to get the sspi function of the 7i43 board to work. Does anyone know what a raw dump on the syslog should look like for the working SPI interface?
[01:35:36] <Goslowjimbo> http://pastebin.com/m2bb85d1
[01:40:30] <Goslowjimbo> http://pastebin.com/m7ae7e8cc is the SPI component.
[01:45:14] <Goslowjimbo> Raw dump is the only instruction I am sure has worked in raw mode.
[02:41:05] <pcw_home> Goslowjimbo: (if you read the logs) at least one problem I can see at a glance:
[02:41:07] <pcw_home> the SPI rate register value (0) gives a SPI clock (25 MHz) which is too fast for the 7I64
[02:41:08] <pcw_home> A value of 2 should be used which gives a SPI clock of 8.33 MHz
[02:44:26] <pcw_home> If I get a chance I'll hand verify the setup and post a working setup script on Monday
[02:44:53] <SWPadnos> pcw_home, do you have a spare 7I64 around?
[02:47:02] <SWPadnos> oh hey, they're for sale now. nevermind
[02:50:25] <pcw_home> Yes got production boards now plus a proto of you want to play with one
[02:51:24] <SWPadnos> I may want to play around with the USB mode
[02:52:41] <pcw_home> OK Ill look in ye old junk pile
[02:52:51] <SWPadnos> heh. thanks :)
[02:53:02] <SWPadnos> then again, I may play with the SPI mode instead :)
[02:53:31] <pcw_home> It does either, just not both at once
[02:53:38] <SWPadnos> yep
[02:54:06] <SWPadnos> hmm. same price a sa 5i20
[02:54:08] <SWPadnos> as a
[02:54:32] <SWPadnos> isolated though
[02:55:25] <SWPadnos> damn. I never did buy myself a 7i43. I really should get one of those on order
[02:55:26] <pcw_home> its all the _individually_ isolated I/O, we may make a version with commons on inputs and outputs thats cheaper (isolated at SPI)
[02:55:41] <SWPadnos> ok, interesting
[02:56:04] <SWPadnos> do you have 7i43 in stock?
[02:56:19] <SWPadnos> (well, at work, not at home :) )
[02:56:22] <pcw_home> Yep just got the REV C cards in
[02:56:33] <SWPadnos> cool. 200k and 400k?
[02:56:38] <pcw_home> both
[02:56:48] <pcw_home> (mostly 400K)
[02:56:51] <SWPadnos> great. I'll try to remember to order one on Monday
[03:25:32] <SWPadnos> pcw_home, I think I see an error in the 7i64 manual
[03:25:54] <SWPadnos> page 15 (19 of the PDF), the write example table
[03:26:27] <SWPadnos> the write address is set to 8, not 0 as the text above describes
[03:27:01] <SWPadnos> (the LSB has a 1 in the AI column, probably a copy/paste error)
[03:27:58] <SWPadnos> oh hmm. and the read example too. The AS bit should be 0 to specify "the current address", but it's a 1 in the table
[03:52:26] <cradek> tonight we bored the other two pulleys and milled the other two motor mounts for jepler's servo conversion
[03:52:54] <cradek> everything worked great. I got perfect .749 bores with the boring head. (that never works!)
[03:53:35] <toastydeath> awesome!
[03:53:42] <pcw_home> OK thanks SWPadnos its a copy paste error from the 7I43 manual I think
[03:53:43] <toastydeath> when a boring head works it is like a victory lap
[03:53:43] <pcw_home> Ill fix it Monday
[03:53:45] <toastydeath> around the shop
[03:53:46] <toastydeath> is necessary
[04:04:53] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/imag0041.jpg
[04:05:03] <cradek> haha, here's a terrible photo I took while we were making the last one
[04:15:29] <SWPadnos> pcw_home, cool. I'm sure Monday is soon enough :)
[04:15:46] <SWPadnos> in other news - woohoo! I found a place to buy an M19x1.0mm tap
[04:18:02] <cradek> not mcmaster!?
[04:18:07] <SWPadnos> nope
[04:18:10] <SWPadnos> nor MSC
[04:18:14] <cradek> wow
[04:18:36] <SWPadnos> there's one seller on eBay, but they're in the UK and they want GBP 55 each
[04:18:46] <cradek> ouch
[04:18:53] <SWPadnos> they're $22.00 here: http://www.victornet.com/
[04:18:55] <cradek> I figured the price would be cringeworthy no matter what
[04:19:06] <cradek> I think that's surprisingly cheap
[04:19:09] <SWPadnos> yeah
[04:19:56] <cradek> ouch, their website
[04:20:00] <SWPadnos> heh
[04:20:05] <cradek> but they have an amazing selection of taps
[04:20:18] <SWPadnos> yep. and lots of drills and other things too
[04:22:09] <SWPadnos> oh. they have a reasonable selection of square cutting tools, in carbide and cobalt
[04:22:15] <SWPadnos> at about $1-2.50 each
[04:22:23] <cradek> oh lathe bits?
[04:22:27] <SWPadnos> yep
[04:22:38] <cradek> I like to have a huge pile of those around. I grind them into all sorts of crazy stuff.
[04:23:14] <SWPadnos> oh, maybe I didn't see carbide, but they do have cobalt
[04:23:38] <cradek> I still can't grind carbide... I should get with the times.
[04:23:40] <SWPadnos> look on the "other HS cutting Tools & Blades" -> Fly Cutters page
[04:24:20] <SWPadnos> cobalt may be better for some lathe stuff. it doesn't chip like carbide, but is quite hard
[04:25:40] <SWPadnos> oops. I guess I got the prices wrong too
[05:59:25] <Jymmm> I gotta say, the illegal fireworks around here are pretty cool!
[07:55:05] <Valen> muwhhaaha I own my nick again
[08:33:34] <acemi_> acemi_ is now known as acemi
[10:12:37] <EbiDK> EbiDK is now known as EbiDK|AWAY
[12:57:02] <BigJohnT> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,26/id,486/lang,en/
[13:34:54] <cradek> BigJohnT: I just hand-write my lathe gcode. I wish I had something better but I don't.
[13:36:31] <cradek> on the other hand, I never seem to do complex shapes. one or two arcs or tapers is about as fancy as I ever get.
[13:36:37] <BigJohnT> cradek: thanks
[13:36:43] <cradek> not much help :-)
[13:37:24] <BigJohnT> I actually started once a dxf to g code for a lathe but it got lost in the shuffle
[13:38:32] <cradek> I'd like emc to have some kind of roughing/finishing cycle
[13:38:51] <cradek> that combined with an extremely simple dxf to gcode (like a slightly hacked REALIZE) would be pretty effective
[13:39:03] <cradek> but, I haven't written it - it's not easy.
[13:39:11] <BigJohnT> my buddy has that on his Anilam lathe
[13:39:44] <BigJohnT> another cool thing he has is chamfer with the MPG
[13:40:03] <cradek> that's easy - you can do it in hal
[13:40:44] <cradek> heh, I guess I just use a file - I did that yesterday
[13:40:58] <cradek> I should set up the hal for it.
[13:42:16] <BigJohnT> he toggles back and forth between X, Z and chamfer to move the tool bit to the work and put a quick chamfer on a part
[13:42:57] <cradek> yeah I'm picturing a 3-way switch by the jogwheel for that
[13:43:52] <SWPadnos> and a knob to set the angle :)
[13:44:14] <cradek> yeah, easy
[13:44:21] <cradek> (but you always want 45)
[13:44:30] <SWPadnos> not me, not me :)
[13:44:42] <cradek> 45 and 60?
[13:44:47] <SWPadnos> (you can tell I don't machine much, huh)
[13:44:54] <SWPadnos> yeah, I was thinking about 60
[13:44:56] <cradek> haha
[13:45:08] <BigJohnT> 60 which way?
[13:45:14] <SWPadnos> ayes
[13:45:17] <SWPadnos> yes
[13:45:19] <cradek> for the beginning of a thread you might think you want 60, but I think 45 still works better
[15:45:49] <Jymmm> I gotta say, the illegal fireworks around here are pretty cool!
[15:48:33] <Jymmm> Someone setup this one that lasted a full 5 minutes, screamed, and shot up about 40 feet. I think it was a bunch of them chained together somehow, because there was like a 3s pause, then went off again.
[15:49:01] <Jymmm> I gotta head over there and see if there's a hole in the ground. LOL
[16:16:12] <Goslowjimbo> pcw_home: Thanks for your kind support. I evidently mis-read the application of the clock generator.
[16:17:30] <Goslowjimbo> There may be something else happening that I am not aware of. I hadn't tried to work the table or spindle since I started working on the SPI interface.
[16:18:35] <Goslowjimbo> Since my oldest was home for the 4th, I decided to show off the works. I couldn't get any of the axis to work.
[16:19:30] <Goslowjimbo> I'll try to research that some today, and see If I can find a solution to at least that portion of the puzzle.
[16:27:32] <Goslowjimbo> skunkworks: I have been saving up for years to build a new house. Then the economy falls apart, and I found a house for about half it's original price. Didn't feel I could turn it down.
[16:30:30] <cradek> it's funny - mine's value is back down to exactly what I bought it for
[16:30:40] <Goslowjimbo> Is your garage going to be the machine shed also?
[16:30:49] <cradek> which is great - lower taxes to pay
[16:32:12] <Goslowjimbo> Yeah, I get to pay a lot more in taxes. This one has 6 bedrooms.
[16:33:34] <Goslowjimbo> Gotta go now. I'm holding up the festivities. Bye.
[16:35:39] <Jymmm> cradek: at least it isn't in the red
[16:36:19] <cradek> Jymmm: well I don't care one bit what its value does - it's where I live and that's only important if I want to sell it, which I don't
[16:37:07] <Jymmm> Well if it goes in the red, you're paying more than it's worth is what I mean.
[16:37:33] <Jymmm> If your mortgage is $250K and it's worth $200K
[16:37:35] <cradek> fortunately I bought it back when prices were sane
[16:38:15] <Jymmm> good for you =)
[16:38:51] <Jymmm> around here ppl were insane paying $1.2M for a $850K home
[16:39:03] <Jymmm> and are *SO* screwed now.
[16:40:09] <cradek> they're only screwed if it isn't worth $1.2M for them to live there - and if it isn't, why did they buy it for that?
[16:40:43] <cradek> I just don't understand this stuff
[16:40:59] <Jymmm> They worked for a pharamacutical company and could afford it at the time
[16:41:19] <Jymmm> housing was hard ti find at the time
[16:41:30] <cradek> I think people were buying houses to get rich (because prices will always increase!!) instead of to have a place to live - they were crazy.
[16:42:05] <Jymmm> Yep
[16:42:06] <BigJohnT> I bought my house from the local lumber yard...
[16:42:26] <BigJohnT> one truck full at a time :)
[16:42:37] <Jymmm> You beat me to it
[16:43:20] <Jymmm> Well the land values around here are still obscene... like $650K, improvements $50K
[16:43:41] <Jymmm> where improvements are the house itself
[16:44:21] <cradek> heh, wow
[16:44:47] <Jymmm> And that's from the County Assesors records
[16:44:49] <Jymmm> (sp)
[16:45:12] <cradek> don't need insurance - if the house burns down you lose 7% of your value...
[16:45:52] <Jymmm> No, get the insurance, if it burns save the money and sell the land outright
[16:46:06] <Jymmm> $50k Profit
[16:46:39] <anonimasu> toastydeath: awake?
[16:49:01] <Jymmm> s/awake?/on the planet?/
[16:49:18] <anonimasu> haha
[16:49:19] <anonimasu> indeed
[16:51:09] <Jymmm> Well, i guess I should stop screwing around and learn to program this robot
[16:51:49] <anonimasu> hehe
[16:51:56] <anonimasu> im designing a lathe
[16:51:57] <anonimasu> :)
[16:53:20] <Jymmm> Heh, this is to learn python - not a tangible robot.
[16:53:29] <anonimasu> I see :)
[16:53:57] <anonimasu> though im doing stiffness calcs.. and to get it stiff enough it'll be $$$$$$
[16:54:10] <Jymmm> Viagra?
[16:54:20] <anonimasu> indeed
[16:54:53] <anonimasu> seems like linear slides arent too awesome in small sizes..
[16:55:31] <Jymmm> Does anyone know if it's possible to make a airflow meter using a 3 wire muffin fan?
[16:55:36] <Jymmm> s/a/an/
[16:56:30] <Jymmm> I saw some handheld ones, and they look like a muffin fan and a LCD display
[16:57:27] <anonimasu> sure you can, though it depends a bit if you have a reference to calibrate it against
[16:57:50] <Jymmm> Heh, that's the problem... no reference
[16:58:42] <Jymmm> I really want to measure CFM
[16:59:01] <anonimasu> then you need a reference to calibrate your meter against
[16:59:54] <Jymmm> A $2 hooker?
[17:01:15] <anonimasu> mm, or a calibrated meter
[17:01:27] <Jymmm> mm ?
[17:02:55] <anonimasu> haha, if your hooker can blow a known cfm :]
[17:03:04] <anonimasu> 400Nm isnt too shabby..
[17:03:32] <Jymmm> Took ya long enough to get that =)
[17:03:47] <anonimasu> but, that's with 5mm deflection
[17:03:51] <cradek> seems like you could use an auto MAF sensor ... somehow
[17:04:06] <anonimasu> that would work, but he cant calibrate that either :)
[17:04:08] <Jymmm> cradek: They are $169
[17:04:21] <cradek> heck I could buy a whole car for that
[17:04:22] <Jymmm> Tha handheld ones are $150
[17:04:28] <Jymmm> cradek: no doubt
[17:04:37] <anonimasu> go to the store and try one :D
[17:04:55] <Jymmm> anonimasu: all I saw were online
[17:06:17] <Jymmm> http://www.goodmart.com/products/1200650.htm
[17:06:17] <anonimasu> I see
[17:06:34] <anonimasu> http://www.solectro.se/Archive/Documents/Produktblad/LFS-8-3.pdf
[17:06:43] <anonimasu> can someone look at this and tell me if im getting it right
[17:07:07] <anonimasu> at 500mm I should have 0.0mm of deflection with 100N loading
[17:07:57] <Jymmm> Dont those use HDPE ?
[17:09:04] <Jymmm> Oh V-Groove rollers
[17:18:38] <skunkworks> we bought this housing crisis - they had already lowered it 60K or so.
[17:19:04] <skunkworks> (it really was not worth what they where asking initially.
[17:19:28] <skunkworks> (even during the boom)
[17:20:38] <anonimasu> no, roller carrige
[17:22:01] <Jymmm> For?
[17:22:35] <skunkworks> wow - I think I have heat stroke.
[17:22:49] <skunkworks> we bought this house *during* the housing crisis
[17:23:34] <Jymmm> skunkworks: QUICK jump in the freezer for 4 hours!
[17:23:54] <skunkworks> heh - it really isn't too bad today - as long as you are not directly in the sun
[17:24:20] <Jymmm> nauseous?
[17:24:36] <Jymmm> light headed?
[17:27:49] <Jymmm> you sure it isn't a hangover? lol
[17:29:59] <anonimasu> err ball carridge
[17:30:47] <jtr> Jymmm: http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Monitor/ about 2/3 of the way down for airflow meter discussion
[17:31:46] <Jymmm> looking...
[17:38:59] <Jymmm> jtr: Was already thinking of using a 3 wire fan, it's finding a refernce that's the issue.
[17:39:03] <Jymmm> reference
[17:39:21] <Jymmm> good to know about the "cog" ring though.
[17:43:12] <Jymmm> Heh, I do like the $3 data logger... http://ca.geocities.com/site@rogers.com/logger.html
[17:47:18] <Jymmm> BAH.... "I have not taken the time to calibrate my anemometer before installing it, so I cannot map it's rotation speed to wind speed. However, I'm able to see how the wind fluctuates." http://www.raphnet.net/divers/anemometre/anemometer_en.php OH so close *sigh*
[17:48:23] <jtr> Calibrate using the speedometer on your car...
[17:48:34] <jtr> * jtr is out to lunch
[17:48:43] <jtr> oh, that didn't come out right...
[17:49:08] <Jymmm> maybe it did =)
[17:49:59] <Jymmm> Can MPH be converted to CFM?
[17:51:52] <Jymmm> http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28064
[18:13:51] <cradek> mph has units distance/time, cfm is volume/time. so you're off by a factor of 'area'
[18:14:33] <cradek> if you can measure air speed in mph and you know the area it's going through (like the velocity of the air going through a pipe), you can calculate cfm by multiplying by the cross sectional area of the pipe.
[18:14:41] <Jymmm> If I get a muffin fan, I could look at the datasheet to get the area of the opeoning
[18:14:44] <cradek> and massaging your crazy american units accordingly, of course
[18:15:12] <cradek> yes, or simply measure the diameter
[18:30:35] <tomp> is there a channel for heekscad?
[18:30:51] <BigJohnT> #cam
[18:31:11] <tomp> thx
[18:31:17] <tomp> join #cam
[18:31:38] <tomp> argh
[18:41:30] <Jymmm> cradek: you ARE a crazy American unit!!!
[19:08:42] <Jymmm> Hmmm, I wonder if I could use a fan with known specs as a reference
[19:09:40] <Jymmm> Would a larger fan (120mm -vs- 60mm) be more accurate?
[19:11:08] <cradek> the center hub on the fan doesn't let air through, so you need to measure that and the hole diameter both
[19:11:25] <archivist> consumer fan and accurate !!!!
[19:13:13] <Jymmm> I know I need to measure the donut
[19:13:46] <Jymmm> but does the size of the fan make a difference other than for calibration?
[19:13:57] <cradek> a fan with a 4" hole and 1" hub gives about 12 in^2 area, at 20mph velocity that gives 146 cfm
[19:17:43] <Jymmm> Since I really want to measure CFM, and not speed, using a larger fan as a sensor seems reasonable.
[19:18:53] <Jymmm> Or it be like pushing the output of a 20" fan thru a 4" duct.
[19:19:29] <archivist> 4" duct WITH an impediment
[19:19:30] <cradek> you should call up your local heating/ac places and see if they would loan you their device
[19:19:47] <cradek> I've seen the guys walk around my office with the thing they hold up to the ceiling vents
[19:20:03] <archivist> a real air flow meter would be best
[19:20:04] <cradek> at least you know it'd be close to right
[19:20:08] <Jymmm> cradek: That be for calibration I'd think
[19:20:49] <Jymmm> I have a fan with a known 60 CFM I could use as a pseudo reference at least.
[19:21:19] <archivist> only known if the load is the same
[19:21:58] <Jymmm> then find a long straight road and see if the 20MPH calcs the same.
[19:22:29] <Jymmm> archivist: What load? shove the output of the faninto the sensor one
[19:22:47] <archivist> heh think
[19:23:07] <archivist> any restriction to flow is a load
[19:23:35] <Jymmm> archivist: I'm not going to reduce the flow to any less that what the fan is
[19:24:11] <archivist> another being used for measurement IS a load
[19:24:20] <Jymmm> If the fan is 60mm and I use a 120mm sensor, would make sense that any load would be very minimal
[19:24:39] <Jymmm> If what that artical says anyway
[19:25:10] <archivist> ah ,, random web article must be right
[19:25:29] <Jymmm> archivist: DUH... Everything you read on the internet is right silly!
[19:25:36] <BigJohnT_> I did a butterfly wing in NURBs :)
[19:26:18] <archivist> I am quoting for an airflow measuring and controlling job
[19:29:15] <Jymmm> archivist: I'm just trying to get an idea of the effective cooling of a 20" box fan mounted to a 24"x24"x36" enclosed 14U rack
[19:30:25] <Jymmm> archivist: I'm trying find an alternative to the 3x 15K RPM screaming banshee fans per server.
[19:30:29] <archivist> read specs, get fan measure pressure in the box compare with cfm at that pressure load in the spec
[19:31:10] <Jymmm> archivist: But I need somethign to READ the pressure first, thus the 3 wire fans
[19:31:16] <archivist> as the pressure rises the fan will stall
[19:31:52] <archivist> stall in the sense of no flow
[19:31:57] <Jymmm> Yeah, I already shoved the fan on it's face on the ground to measure that factor =)
[19:32:12] <Jymmm> It has no balls
[19:33:01] <Jymmm> no hovercraft candidates here =)
[19:33:32] <Jymmm> I hit 5 stores looking for others, all the same damn Lasko brand - POS
[19:35:07] <Jymmm> It says it's 3880 CFM, not sure if I trust that at all.
[19:35:42] <Jymmm> archivist: Like you said... no load it's probably 3880 CFM
[19:39:32] <BigJohnT_> BigJohnT_ is now known as BigJohnT
[20:23:50] <Guest739> has anyone installed emc2 on ubuntu 9.04
[20:27:24] <archivist> you would need to install the realtime kernel etc, I believe it has been done a few times
[20:28:00] <archivist> why do you want 9.04
[20:39:11] <Guest739> its just whats installed on here and it finds my wireless straight away
[20:39:53] <Jymmm> As in on a laptop?
[20:40:00] <Guest739> yes
[20:40:20] <Guest739> i know its not good running emc2 on here but i just want simulation on it
[20:40:37] <Jymmm> you could just use a livecd
[20:40:41] <Jymmm> s/a/the/
[20:41:22] <Guest739> but then i have the problem of the wireless card not working on ubuntu 8.04
[20:41:33] <Jymmm> so plug it in?
[20:41:42] <Guest739> its built in
[20:41:57] <Jymmm> So pug it into your network
[20:41:59] <Jymmm> plug
[20:42:03] <Guest739> works fine on this version just dont seam gto be able to get it to run on 8.04 mind im a novice
[20:45:18] <Guest739> problem with plugging it in is that i dont have a p of the routercable longth enough to reach so i would be sat on to
[20:46:06] <Guest739> top of the router
[20:52:17] <frallzor> yo
[20:54:27] <alex_joni> good night all
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[21:24:16] <cradek> yay!