#emc | Logs for 2009-05-22

[00:11:03] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
[01:57:33] <malem-cnc> need help with a g540
[01:58:54] <malem-cnc> anyone?
[01:59:25] <jmk-wvm> you might want to explain the problem
[01:59:57] <bglackin_> I cannot help - write everything you can on what your having trouvble with - others are idling and should reply as the look on the chat
[02:00:15] <bglackin_> as he said
[02:00:46] <malem-cnc> okay, I tested the machine with mach3 under windoze it works perfect
[02:01:18] <malem-cnc> now I configured it with stepconf used pretty much dthe defaults wich seemed correct
[02:01:34] <malem-cnc> the machine does not respond to jog commands
[02:01:53] <cradek> I think it has a charge pump
[02:01:54] <bglackin_> did you do a latency test on your computer?
[02:01:56] <malem-cnc> in fact the step motors arent @locked@
[02:02:09] <jmk-wvm> enable? charge pump?
[02:02:12] <malem-cnc> yes it doeas have a charge pump
[02:02:18] <malem-cnc> yes i did latency tests
[02:02:27] <malem-cnc> 15000
[02:02:34] <jmk-wvm> is EMC2 configured to generate the charge pump signal?
[02:02:36] <LawrenceG> there is a good chance your step and direction pins are reversed...... charge pump sounds more like the problem
[02:03:04] <malem-cnc> this option isnt in stepconf right?
[02:03:14] <malem-cnc> I'll go rtfm
[02:03:40] <bglackin_> You can set the pin in stepconf for the charge pump
[02:03:49] <bglackin_> just need to know which pin
[02:04:26] <cradek> are you talking about the axis test or emc running?
[02:04:59] <malem-cnc> emc running
[02:05:32] <malem-cnc> I'll try to find out from my mach3 configuration
[02:05:33] <cradek> ok, yeah, do check the charge pump
[02:05:47] <cradek> or the g540 documentation maybe?
[02:07:06] <malem-cnc> seems to be pin 16
[02:07:11] <malem-cnc> brb
[02:11:29] <malem-cnc> works!
[02:11:45] <malem-cnc> that you very much!
[02:11:48] <cradek> yay!
[02:12:08] <bglackin_> Grats
[02:13:04] <malem-cnc> hehe its even right on (precision wise)
[02:13:32] <malem-cnc> yay free from windoze! at last!
[02:14:34] <malem-cnc> anywone else with a ati rage 128?
[02:15:03] <malem-cnc> it freeze the kernel when axis is launched
[02:15:11] <cradek> try the vesa driver
[02:15:15] <malem-cnc> had to remove acceleration
[02:58:10] <steve_stallings> steve_stallings is now known as steves_logging
[12:23:16] <archivist> * archivist expected the flags on the map to move :)
[12:24:46] <archivist> page needs updating ! http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/blogcategory/15/12/lang,en/
[12:28:48] <archivist> it should have a link to the wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC_Fest_2009
[12:30:25] <pjm__> archivist did u get the parport working?
[12:30:51] <archivist> no, so used free pins for the first port
[12:30:59] <pjm__> ahh ok what was the fault?
[12:31:12] <archivist> so do have real 5 axis moves now
[12:31:38] <archivist> parpot 0 not the new card
[12:32:42] <als> you have pictures of this five axis move?
[12:32:53] <archivist> not yet
[12:33:07] <als> will be lookin
[12:34:02] <pjm__> is the 5axis on the head or the table?
[12:34:08] <pjm__> 5th !
[12:34:18] <archivist> X and Y axis limitations are really getting in the way now
[12:34:33] <archivist> table
[12:35:28] <archivist> B has a 90 deg angle plate with A bolted on it
[12:36:25] <pjm__> ah excellent
[12:38:26] <archivist> having seen a pic posted to a nice 5axis by hermle I may redesign when I can get materials
[12:39:23] <archivist> 90mm travel x and 130mm Y is just not enough
[12:40:21] <ich_bins> hi
[12:41:45] <ich_bins> has anyone the cheap stepper driver card running, that can be get by ebay from hong kong? i can't get informations about this card.
[12:43:00] <ich_bins> http://cgi.ebay.de/4-Achsen-stepper-Schrittmotor-fuer-CNC-Fraese-NEU_W0QQitemZ230343898664QQcmdZViewItemQQptZController?hash=item35a190f628&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50
[12:43:05] <ich_bins> this card
[12:44:18] <ich_bins> anyone living here?
[12:44:25] <pjm__> hello
[12:44:29] <archivist> no we died
[12:44:39] <pjm__> i moved out last week
[12:44:41] <ich_bins> hmmmmmm
[12:44:55] <pjm__> that card is probably ok
[12:45:09] <alex_joni> seems a bit low on the voltage side (only 12V)
[12:45:59] <archivist> worst engrish Ive seen recently
[12:46:42] <ich_bins> info i have is, that pin 4 is step and pin 5 direction for y, but if i test it, pin 2 is for step and 17 for direction. the doc-files of the card are totaly wrong
[12:47:09] <ich_bins> it says pin 17 is for relay, but it switch on pin 16
[12:48:10] <archivist> if they cant be bothered to document properly , says little for the quality
[12:48:24] <ich_bins> is it possible, that the cable is wrong?
[12:49:35] <alex_joni> archivist: engrish ;)
[12:49:42] <alex_joni> ich_bins: you can check that easily
[12:49:51] <ich_bins> how?
[12:50:42] <archivist> alex_joni, you read http://engrishfunny.com/ as well
[12:50:48] <alex_joni> measuring instrument
[12:51:12] <alex_joni> archivist: once in a while ;)
[12:53:07] <ich_bins> when i switch it on, stepper for a and z can be turned by hand, stepper for x and y not and the y stepper is getting really hot after a while.
[13:36:34] <jepler> well that's an interesting way to mount a chip that's designed for thru-hole .. http://www.kcheungshop.com/iwannebuy/pics/b_pc_driver_board_05.jpg
[13:36:56] <jepler> (from the auction that ich_bins linked)
[14:16:07] <steves_logging> steves_logging is now known as steve_stallings
[14:17:41] <steve_stallings> I have seen that mounting method used for zip-dip footprints, but never with unrelated traces and vias trying to hide in the gap near the body.
[14:18:57] <steve_stallings> jelper: which motel were you commenting on having working wi-fi?
[14:20:34] <jepler> steve_stallings: sunset
[14:44:18] <alSMT> any big projects like the mazak was this year?
[17:27:32] <steve_stallings> steve_stallings is now known as steves_logging
[17:50:29] <Jymmm> remote head??? http://www.frys.com/product/5875793?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[18:08:31] <kirk_wallace> That looks pret-Eee neat.
[18:12:14] <archivist> ello kirk, that gear gcode looks dead right here but as a generator I have not actually cut anything but air
[18:15:01] <Jymmm> kirk_wallace: Yeah, toss the LiveCd on a flash card and it would be pretty fast too.
[18:16:56] <Jymmm> Touch screen only http://cgi.ebay.com/Elo-LCD-Touchscreen-15-Touch-Flat-Screen-Monitor-1515L_W0QQitemZ360149524107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item53da959e8b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 for the same price you get a PC too!
[18:20:06] <EbiDK> EbiDK is now known as EbiDK|AWAY
[18:23:43] <kirk_wallace> archivist: I don't have a rotary axis yet, so I am more interested in the O word usage and gear concepts than actually cutting something. I suppose I am going to have to start thinking about making or getting a rotary axis.
[18:25:21] <archivist> I just got my second
[18:26:05] <garage_seb> micges, give Trunk a try, it's better than before but not perfect yet
[18:26:09] <archivist> I do tend to use O codes and loops to get what I want
[18:28:10] <kirk_wallace> Jymmm: A while back I was scouting out used touch screens on eBay. It seemed that if one is patient, there are some pretty good deals. I just wonder how well a touch screen would work with oily fingers?
[18:29:40] <alex_joni> garage_seb: I think that API is wrong
[18:29:46] <alex_joni> for pci_register_driver
[18:30:58] <alex_joni> garage_seb: http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2005/cdrom-beta-1/linux-mandocs- <- that one is more likely
[18:32:30] <micges> garage_seb: I can't
[18:32:43] <micges> on monday
[18:33:25] <micges> garage_seb: can you describe what was the problem?
[18:47:08] <Jymmm> kirk_wallace: I dun know... saran wrap maybe?
[19:03:27] <alex_joni> bbl
[19:05:01] <eric_unterhause1> I wonder if you can get tear off covers like the race car drivers use on their windshields. Seems like they might be sold to motorcyclists too.
[19:06:59] <Jymmm> Sure, they make em for cleanrooms too
[19:46:39] <colin__> is it possible to issue joint commands in a program ?
[19:47:21] <alex_joni> nope
[19:47:26] <colin__> :(
[19:47:36] <alex_joni> not at the moment (without rewriting parts of emc2 I mean)
[19:47:51] <colin__> would be nice if you could
[19:48:17] <alex_joni> well. maybe you can for some joints
[19:48:25] <alex_joni> the interpreter has XYZABCUVW
[19:48:41] <alex_joni> you can use a custom kins to directly map UVW to some joints (0,1,2)
[19:48:48] <alex_joni> then issue UVW moves to move j0,j1,j2
[19:49:11] <alex_joni> but I don't know if this wild idea would work, or how well ;)
[19:49:34] <colin__> ah right
[19:50:50] <colin__> probably not important
[19:50:54] <colin__> just thinking :)
[19:53:17] <alex_joni> colin__: the first limitation is the interpreter
[19:53:44] <colin__> ah i see
[20:44:38] <alex_joni> seb_: http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2005/cdrom-beta-1/linux-mandocs- <- that one is more likely
[20:48:09] <rektide> i was just talking about pci registers with respect to my radeon
[20:48:36] <rektide> i dont see the conversation that was a reply to alex_joni
[20:49:40] <alex_joni> rektide: a bit earlier
[20:49:43] <alex_joni> logger_emc: bookmark
[20:49:43] <alex_joni> Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2009-05-22.txt
[20:59:14] <colin_> is there a way to make axis load up in fullscreen ?
[21:00:38] <alex_joni> yup
[21:01:13] <colin_> is there a simple answer ?
[21:01:56] <colin_> im using xfce in xubuntu if that matters
[21:02:25] <alex_joni> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linuxcnc+AXIS+fullscreen&l=1
[21:02:50] <colin_> thanks :)
[21:02:54] <alex_joni> np ;)
[21:03:37] <alex_joni> * alex_joni heads to bed
[21:03:50] <alex_joni> good night all
[21:33:17] <sliptonic> Anyone familiar with the Single button probe/touchoff documented in the wiki?
[21:37:48] <toastatw1rk> the coolant pump on the machine next to me is wonky
[21:37:51] <toastatw1rk> it's pulsing
[21:38:02] <toastatw1rk> PSSSHHhhhhh..pppSSSHHHHhhh
[21:38:32] <archivist> sucking air, low on coolant
[21:39:05] <toastatw1rk> neither
[21:39:25] <toastatw1rk> it's not like, stopping? it's just pumping an enormous amount of coolant, then an average amount
[21:39:53] <toastatw1rk> the machine is topped up, one of the lines got clogged earlier so maybe this is related
[21:40:35] <archivist> could be if a lump is blocking flow
[21:42:42] <toastatw1rk> it was kinda funny the first time it clogged, i was like, why is the turret just dribbling coolant
[21:43:01] <toastatw1rk> then i turned on the chip wash sprayers, and got coated in high volume coolant
[21:43:11] <toastatw1rk> guess i won't be doing that again
[21:43:22] <archivist> I get pump problems here as well
[21:43:30] <toastatw1rk> i managed to unclog the line by pointing the airhose into the offending line
[21:43:53] <toastatw1rk> and it worked a little better than expected, again coating me in coolant
[21:44:05] <eric_unterhausen> I should thank the guy that bid 99 cents instead of my buy it now of $35, I'm at $31 with days to go
[21:44:51] <toastatw1rk> lol
[21:45:39] <eric_unterhausen> I'm starting to feel guilty about the price alread
[21:45:41] <eric_unterhausen> y
[22:06:10] <toastatw1rk> arg i should have barfed this job
[22:06:19] <toastatw1rk> ...bar fed, not barfed.
[22:06:28] <toastatw1rk> 225 small bushings
[22:09:02] <archivist> deadly boring is qty work
[22:13:52] <toastatw1rk> archivist ?
[22:14:25] <archivist> standing at a capstan making hundreds of parts
[22:14:50] <toastatw1rk> yes
[22:15:15] <toastatw1rk> this machine is pretty dimensionally stable under boring, i have to hold a -.0005/+0 bore
[22:15:23] <toastatw1rk> and it seems to be holding it fairly accurately
[22:15:51] <toastatw1rk> of course in-process gauging would be nice, as would a 2 spindle lathe with live tools