#emc | Logs for 2009-01-04

[00:00:43] <jepler> huh, there's "tearing" in that screenshot (the bottom part of the graph shifted further than the top); I know xwd didn't have this problem (though it temporarily freezes the X server from updating the screen); I guess it's another thing gnome does worse than old X
[00:15:05] <KimK> KimK is now known as KimK_brb
[00:43:21] <dmess> hi all
[01:32:52] <jmkasunich> and it was a good hike.... http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/index.html
[01:35:41] <eric_u> cool dog, I don't have enough patience to train ours
[01:36:10] <jmkasunich> I've had help from a real dog trainer
[01:36:35] <eric_u> we did too, he's a lot better now
[01:36:53] <eric_u> but he was pretty wild and fairly old when we got him
[01:37:58] <eric_u> why did you buy 16 spindles?
[01:38:35] <cradek> haha, his tongue: http://willepadnos.net/jmkasunich/buddy-come-2773.jpg
[01:39:30] <jmkasunich> yeah, thats one of the reasons I like that pic
[01:39:49] <jmkasunich> I just wish the camera had focused on him, not the trees in the background
[01:40:06] <cradek> dogs are cool, but I don't want one. I need one I can borrow!
[01:40:23] <jmkasunich> eric_u: I bought them because I can't pass up something cheap
[01:40:47] <jmkasunich> what I paid for all 16 wouldn't buy one of the bearings new
[01:41:10] <eric_u> I have that problem
[01:45:13] <eric_u> if any of them take moog tooling, I can set you up
[01:59:14] <tomp> hike last weekend http://imagebin.ca/view/qbE-hSg6.html and http://imagebin.ca/view/qbE-hSg6.html
[02:20:50] <dmess> My bernese was DIVING inth the fresh snow all week... was quite funny but forgot the camera at home.. my bad
[02:21:37] <dmess> what kinda spindles??
[02:22:15] <jmkasunich> dmess; snow diving like this?
[02:22:18] <jmkasunich> http://willepadnos.net/jmkasunich/buddy-leaping-2-1904.jpg
[02:22:24] <jmkasunich> http://willepadnos.net/jmkasunich/buddy-leaping-1-1909.jpg
[02:22:44] <jmkasunich> dmess: these spindles - http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/spindle-project
[02:22:49] <dmess> she would torpedo off the snowbank into the back soft stoff and dissapear for a few seconds... then pop here head up
[02:22:56] <jmkasunich> heh
[02:23:14] <jmkasunich> we very rarely get enough snow to disappear the dog - fortunately
[02:24:50] <dmess> we had a good 3+ feet when i got ther on firday... but it rained all day sunday and +8c so it took a shitkicking and it turned to ICE all over
[02:25:24] <dmess> the boyz skated from the house to the rink
[02:25:43] <dmess> it was -37c when i left this moirning
[02:26:34] <dmess> Sunday AM the lake had waves on it
[02:27:07] <dmess> a good 10-12 inches of water ON the last Bad ice
[02:27:15] <jmkasunich> nasty
[02:27:39] <dmess> there were sleds across it last lite
[02:27:43] <dmess> nite
[02:27:52] <dmess> idiots
[02:28:14] <dmess> my van went for a dump for a day
[02:28:32] <dmess> wouldn't start.. ;(
[02:28:59] <dmess> im not good when i dont have a working vehicle
[02:45:03] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: PING?
[03:17:36] <eric_u> PONG
[03:44:01] <tomp> hah usb cfg for tbird got a truncated file on it. xandros declared whole drive to be read only. i had to mount it on ubuntu to see where the problem was.
[05:06:08] <KimK_> jepler: Still around? Could you talk about this from your blog (is the metric part a bug? a feature? a to-do? something else?): AXIS uses RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE in the same way as emc. Before this, AXIS and emc could give different results for files that depended on the startup code. (It still gives different reuslts on metric systems where G20 is specified neither in the startup code nor in the loaded file)
[05:06:13] <KimK_> My ini file has native units of mm, but if I have in my ini file RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G17 G20 G90 shouldn't axis start in G20? It's starting in G21. Does it do that before homing? (I'm still playing, I can't really home it right now.)
[05:07:23] <SWPadnos> based on the blog comment, I think you shouldn't have a problem
[05:07:46] <KimK_> Oh, I'm not getting G90 either, maybe I'm doing something else wrong?
[05:07:54] <SWPadnos> it says that results are different if *neither* RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODES nor the program specify G20
[05:08:21] <SWPadnos> G90 should be default I think
[05:08:24] <KimK_> Maybe my RS274... has an error and is being ignored?
[05:08:43] <SWPadnos> well, if it's not spelled correctly, it doesn't exist as far as EMC is concerned :)
[05:08:52] <SWPadnos> (I don't know that it is, just mentioning it0
[05:08:54] <SWPadnos> )
[05:08:57] <KimK_> I'll check
[05:09:20] <SWPadnos> it looks like you have it right
[05:09:28] <SWPadnos> (no S at the end, like I put in)
[05:10:15] <KimK_> No commas?
[05:10:31] <KimK_> (just checking)
[05:11:13] <KimK_> Maybe I should test native units of inch and see what happens?
[05:11:21] <SWPadnos> check the section it's in
[05:11:30] <SWPadnos> it should be in EMC or RS274NGC
[05:11:41] <KimK_> [RS274NGC]
[05:13:06] <SWPadnos> just to confirm, you are saving the ini file, then restarting EMC using that ini file, right?
[05:13:57] <KimK_> I thought i wanted to use metric native (nice round #'s on ballscrew revs) but I wanted to come up in inches. Yes, but I will repeat to be sure. The G20 part I haven't changed for a long time, though.
[05:14:27] <SWPadnos> you can use whichever you want - the scale values are floating point
[05:14:47] <SWPadnos> even for steppers
[05:16:17] <KimK_> OK, I was wrong, I do see the G90 there (missed it before?) but the G21 is still present, no G20. I'm not executing anything, just looking in the MDI display.
[05:16:53] <SWPadnos> this is just loading the AXIS splah file?
[05:16:58] <KimK_> Yes.
[05:17:41] <KimK_> Is it stuck in metric (that is, native units) before homing?
[05:17:45] <SWPadnos> the AXIS splash file has a G20 in it
[05:18:20] <SWPadnos> what have you put in the startup codes?
[05:18:25] <SWPadnos> (G20 or G21)
[05:18:29] <KimK_> I didn't know. Is that an error to specify G20 twice?
[05:18:33] <SWPadnos> no
[05:19:06] <KimK_> Just like I pated before: RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G17 G20 G90
[05:19:11] <KimK_> pated = pasted
[05:19:19] <KimK_> I'm not bald yet
[05:19:24] <SWPadnos> heh
[05:19:44] <SWPadnos> ok, what do you see in the MDI active G codes window?
[05:22:33] <SWPadnos> actually, I see the same thing - G20 always shows up in the MDI active G-codes, regardless of what you put in the startup codes
[05:22:40] <KimK_> Boy, hope I copied these right, it wouldn't highlight (screen redraws?) G80 G17 G40 G21 G90 G94 G54 G49 G99 (next line) G64 G0 G97 M5 9 48 53 M0 F0 S0
[05:22:43] <SWPadnos> I don't know if that's an artifact of the program having G20 in it
[05:22:59] <SWPadnos> G21?
[05:23:01] <SWPadnos> weird
[05:23:01] <KimK_> Yours is native inches?
[05:23:11] <SWPadnos> I'm just using sim/axis
[05:23:29] <davidma> hello. i've successfully downgraded to 8.04 and got emc2 running.
[05:23:33] <KimK_> And sim/axis is simulating native inches?
[05:23:47] <KimK_> Hi davidma, congratulations
[05:23:56] <SWPadnos> dunno - I'd have to check (the laptop is in another room :) )
[05:23:58] <davidma> one question I have is the ubuntu update manager seems to want to upgrade about 150 packages. i'm hesitant to let it do so.
[05:24:21] <SWPadnos> as long as it's updating to the latest 8.04 packages, it should be OK
[05:24:22] <davidma> i didn't tell it 'dist-upgrade' or anything like that.
[05:24:26] <SWPadnos> ok
[05:24:29] <KimK_> Sounds about right, 8.04 has been out awhile
[05:24:37] <davidma> swpadnos - yep all i've got in my sources.list is heron.
[05:25:43] <davidma> what i want to do now is make a mini desktop mill, dremel-sized. i've got a harbor freight micromill, that is my 'big' mill.
[05:26:04] <davidma> just for messing around and possibly milling PCBs.
[05:26:26] <SWPadnos> KimK_, yes, sim/axis sues inch machine units
[05:26:44] <KimK_> SWPadnos: So is it "preferring" the native units on startup then? Is this a bug? Am I doing something wrong? I'm still unclear.
[05:26:54] <SWPadnos> I don't know
[05:28:12] <KimK_> OK. I'll try changing to native inches (same size, or as close as I can) and see what happens.
[05:29:38] <KimK_> davidma: you're in the right place, hang around and enjoy the chat
[05:30:16] <SWPadnos> KimK_, what's the scale for mm?
[05:30:27] <KimK_> 2000
[05:30:47] <SWPadnos> ok, so for inches you have 50800 - still a nice round number
[05:30:58] <KimK_> OK.
[05:30:58] <davidma> i'm new to this irc client - do things show up as a different color when they're messages?
[05:31:12] <SWPadnos> (not that it needs to be, but they are easier for humans to read)
[05:31:23] <KimK_> It might be highlighting lines with your nick?
[05:31:42] <KimK_> davidma: Is that it?
[05:31:49] <SWPadnos> messages may cause a new tab or window to open
[05:32:19] <SWPadnos> usually, lines that have your nick (or any other words you add to a "stalk list") will beep and/or be hilighted
[05:34:03] <davidma> kimk: yeah that was it, your name appeared in yellow.
[05:35:07] <KimK_> SWPadnos: If it makes a difference for debugging(?) I had negative scale and some limits on Y, as I anticipate that it will be backwards, but can't be sure for awhile yet.
[05:35:19] <SWPadnos> nope
[05:35:42] <SWPadnos> shouldn't make a difference. negating the scale is the easiest way of fixing reversed axis motion
[05:35:53] <davidma> for a DIY desktop mill, what are the pros and cons of a gantry design vs saddle design?
[05:36:19] <SWPadnos> uh. whichever is easier for you to build with the materials you have access to and the skills you have would be the best
[05:36:47] <davidma> haha okay. i'm thinking commodity materials.
[05:37:00] <davidma> if you recognize the name David Mucha, he had some plans for a mill using unistrut
[05:37:00] <SWPadnos> heh - you got the message though, that's good :)
[05:37:30] <SWPadnos> I think I've seen posts on CCED maybe (or the geckodrive Yahoo group)
[05:38:31] <KimK_> SWPadnos: OK, started in native inches and RS274=G20, got G20, no problem. Then, changed RS274=G21. Restarted. Still got G20. A bug?
[05:38:49] <SWPadnos> same thing you saw before, isn't it?
[05:38:58] <SWPadnos> ie, always starts up showing native units
[05:40:20] <KimK_> Yes, it seems to follow the native units, at least on startup. I can't go any further, does it come out of it after homing? I can't imagine that someone wouldn't have reported shifts in units while homing, though, seems unreasonable to guess that.
[05:40:59] <SWPadnos> since any good G-code programmer always puts G20/G21 in their g-code file, it shouldn't matter
[05:41:02] <SWPadnos> but it may be a bug
[05:42:25] <KimK_> And we have a lot of European colleagues, don't we? Maybe East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet? Good thing I stumble all over the place, then, eh?
[05:42:37] <SWPadnos> heh
[05:43:09] <KimK_> Glad to help(?)
[05:43:13] <KimK_> heh
[05:43:17] <stustev1> I don't think we have 5 gcode programs with a g20 or g21 in them. I had always wondered if we were any good or not. :)
[05:43:41] <SWPadnos> the only time this could be a problem is (a) if you issue MDI commands and you expect them to be in non-native units by default, or (b) if you routinely use G-code programs with no units setting in them
[05:43:43] <SWPadnos> like Stuart ;)
[05:44:06] <stustev1> just passing thru - good night :)
[05:44:13] <SWPadnos> see you :)
[05:44:24] <KimK_> thanks stustev1 , goodnight
[05:44:24] <SWPadnos> (troublemaker)
[05:45:17] <bglackin> Quick question - just installed 6.06 from the LiveCD. I cannot seem to get past 2.1.7.
[05:45:28] <bglackin> Do I need to wipe this out and reinstall?
[05:46:39] <SWPadnos> you can get 2.2.8 for 6.06
[05:46:56] <SWPadnos> you just need to change the repositories to read "emc2.2" instead of "emc2"
[05:46:59] <davidma> gotta reboot
[05:47:23] <SWPadnos> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.2
[05:47:44] <bglackin> lost me there - where do I find the repository to change?
[05:47:59] <SWPadnos> follow the directions on the wiki page I just linked to :)
[05:48:00] <bglackin> ahh- been through the site and did not find that
[05:48:07] <bglackin> will do.
[05:48:17] <SWPadnos> I don't know what to search on, it's a link on the main wiki page
[05:49:03] <KimK_> If you do an empty search (hit return) it seems to show all links
[05:49:32] <bglackin> looking at it now
[05:49:59] <KimK_> Of course, that's like going to a library and saying, "Do you have a book?"
[05:50:36] <bglackin> heh - Thats me
[05:54:07] <bglackin> mit appears to be busy this eve
[05:56:29] <bglackin> bah - key requests timing out
[05:56:52] <bglackin> and search<blank> = Pageindex on top of page....
[05:57:38] <KimK_> SWPadnos: I know it's getting late in Vermont (must be cold there too!) Thanks for helping me with this RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODES bug. (Can we call it that now?)
[05:57:44] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: yo
[05:58:22] <SWPadnos> KimK_, I don't know if it's a bug, intended operation, or that both of us don't know what we;re doing :)
[05:58:29] <SWPadnos> hi JymmmEMC
[05:58:38] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: Had a q for ya
[05:58:43] <SWPadnos> go ahead
[05:59:14] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: 30' cat5 cable, been working fine for months. alll of a sudden no go.
[05:59:23] <SWPadnos> birds
[05:59:28] <JymmmEMC> would get link, but ALL traffic like dialup
[05:59:39] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: replaced cable, same thing
[05:59:51] <JymmmEMC> swapped computer, same results
[05:59:54] <SWPadnos> did you change switch ports?
[06:00:18] <JymmmEMC> switched ports multiple times, swapped 3rd cable
[06:00:30] <JymmmEMC> power cycled switch
[06:00:37] <JymmmEMC> power cycled router
[06:01:03] <SWPadnos> huh
[06:01:05] <JymmmEMC> I thought it might have been bad nick
[06:01:12] <JymmmEMC> -k
[06:01:25] <SWPadnos> oh - I assumed that when you swapped PCs the NIC also changed
[06:01:50] <JymmmEMC> FINALLY, got wild hair up my ass, plugged cable into different switch all works
[06:02:06] <SWPadnos> please leave your ass out of it
[06:02:08] <SWPadnos> :)
[06:02:27] <JymmmEMC> 8port 10/100 switch. Has one 50' run from router, then multiple 8ft runs + the 30' run.
[06:02:51] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: any idea WHY this might of happened. is really weird
[06:02:55] <SWPadnos> was the other one gigabit capable?
[06:03:00] <SWPadnos> other switch
[06:03:01] <JymmmEMC> nope,
[06:03:04] <SWPadnos> hmm
[06:03:10] <bglackin> SW - do I need the key to run 2.2? Keep timing out on the keyserver requests
[06:03:19] <SWPadnos> well, I could guess all night, but I don't know
[06:03:46] <SWPadnos> if you swapped all parts and it still didn't work, then you swapped one part another time and it did, then it sounds random-ish
[06:03:48] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: just a fluke you think? I'm more interested in the casue than the effect of ccourse
[06:04:08] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: nothing had changed, just happened.
[06:04:20] <SWPadnos> about the only thing that might explain it (other than a fluke) is some new noise source, and the replacement router/switch is more robust
[06:05:02] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: Well, the only thing that changed was installed sw on the box, but even swtiched over to IdeaPAd and same result. But on 8ft cable to same seitch, no problem.
[06:05:05] <SWPadnos> bglackin, I think you can't get unsigned packages with synaptic/apt, so you should wait until the key downloads
[06:05:14] <JymmmEMC> by box, I mean xp
[06:05:27] <SWPadnos> JymmmEMC, did you notice a packet storm at the time, or was the line relatively quiet
[06:05:29] <SWPadnos> ?
[06:05:54] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: You know, I did notice a hell of alot of traffic on thw switch
[06:06:09] <bglackin> I did download the package - or so it told me it did - TIme for bed so I will fuss with it tomorrow - thanks for the help
[06:06:14] <JymmmEMC> very fast blinking lights
[06:06:20] <SWPadnos> see you bglackin
[06:06:40] <SWPadnos> ok, there could have been something else going on then
[06:06:57] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: The thing is, this computer and another worked just fine
[06:07:10] <KimK_> JymmmEMC: Was anything added or changed in the area? New computer/appliance/etc? New source of noise or current (ampere) usage?
[06:07:46] <JymmmEMC> KimK_: No, everything of that nature was the same as it had been for months.
[06:08:14] <davidma> ssh: connect to host cvs.linuxcnc.org port 22: Connection timed out
[06:08:14] <davidma> cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
[06:08:15] <JymmmEMC> put all three cat5 cables on tester - good.
[06:08:17] <davidma> ack!
[06:08:50] <JymmmEMC> it's as if the switch didn't have enough juice to handle botht hte 50' and the 30' run
[06:09:45] <JymmmEMC> as of now, it's: DSL -> router -> Switch1 -> AP/Switch2 and works
[06:10:04] <JymmmEMC> same frickin cable too
[06:10:28] <JymmmEMC> anyhow, if anything comes to mind, let me know.
[06:10:39] <KimK_> Does that switch have an IEC AC cord (PC-style) or a wall cube? Maybe someone swapped cubes? ("What? You mean they're *not* all the same?")
[06:10:40] <SWPadnos> JymmmEMC, well, it's possible that you're right - that the switch lost a cap in its power supply or something
[06:10:51] <SWPadnos> or it got static zapped or something
[06:11:32] <SWPadnos> davidma, hmmm. it looks like the CVS server is down
[06:12:08] <davidma> oh well i'll live. can always check it out later.
[06:12:13] <SWPadnos> yep
[06:12:22] <SWPadnos> sorry about that
[06:12:34] <davidma> does anyone here use eclipse? just curious.
[06:12:50] <SWPadnos> I've looked at it, but not long enough to figure out if it's useful for me :)
[06:13:03] <davidma> pretty much the same here, just played with it a little bit.
[06:13:20] <davidma> one thing that is pretty cool is it'llgive you a pop-up of all the methods of a class, as you are coding.
[06:13:41] <davidma> so you don't have to try to remember 'gee is it size() or length() to get the length of a java String'
[06:14:06] <davidma> i have no idea whether it's useful outside the java world.
[06:14:33] <SWPadnos> the Borland C++ editor has done that for about a decade
[06:14:36] <SWPadnos> it's nice
[06:14:39] <davidma> jymmemc: this ethernet cable of yours, is it going to a backyard workshop or something? just curious if both locations are grounded.
[06:14:47] <davidma> really, i didn't know that about borland.
[06:14:49] <SWPadnos> I think Anjuta does that also
[06:15:05] <davidma> see, i've pretty much been an x-term and vi guy for the last 10-
[06:15:07] <davidma> 15 years.
[06:15:10] <SWPadnos> heh
[06:15:13] <KimK_> KimK_ is now known as KimK
[06:15:32] <SWPadnos> I'm a vi guy now, because that seems to be the default CVS commit message editor on Ubuntu 8.xx
[06:15:33] <davidma> but since it's 2009 now i figure it's time to enter the 21st century.
[06:15:39] <SWPadnos> but it's not by choice :)
[06:15:53] <davidma> i first started using vi in 1989 on ultrix.
[06:16:15] <davidma> so i guess it's been more than 15 years.
[06:16:28] <SWPadnos> I learned enough to quit or save and exit, and that was as far as it got (on Irix)
[06:17:09] <SWPadnos> I used emacs back then, but I've more or less forgotten everything (except how to save and/or quit :) )
[06:19:36] <davidma> does emc do ellipses now? I last tried it about 5 years ago on a very ancient (2001-2002) version, and that particular g-code was not implemented.
[06:20:15] <SWPadnos> no, you can only do circular arcs with the mainline code
[06:20:32] <SWPadnos> someone made a NURBS or spline extension, but I'm not sure where it is
[06:21:12] <SWPadnos> I think the underlying CANON calls can support ellipses, and maybe even non-orthogonal planes, but it's not in the G-code yet
[06:21:36] <SWPadnos> (though someone made a demo with non-orthogonal planes)
[06:29:32] <topls64> I have a choice of parker oem650 or oem750 drives. Any gotchas I should watch for?
[06:33:06] <topls64> as i recall the 750 _is_ the better of the two
[06:33:57] <davidma> I like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6drMZqmyXQc&feature=related
[06:57:56] <JymmmEMC> topls64: 750 has mid band compensation (goo thing), 650 doesn't
[06:58:02] <JymmmEMC> good
[06:58:32] <topls64> think 72usd for four is a good price?
[06:58:38] <topls64> soory
[06:58:47] <topls64> 72 each
[06:58:54] <JymmmEMC> for 750's very good - if they work
[06:59:09] <topls64> guys says they do...
[06:59:37] <JymmmEMC> 300 for 4, eh. you can get gecko 540 for $300 new and includes optoisolation and vfd etc
[06:59:57] <JymmmEMC> getting link...
[07:00:21] <JymmmEMC> topls64: http://www.geckodrive.com/product.aspx?c=3&i=14469
[07:00:54] <JymmmEMC> topls64: everything in a single ready to go case, no breakoutbaord, just add ps
[07:01:19] <JymmmEMC> but it's fixed at 10 microstep if that matters to you
[07:01:23] <topls64> when did they come out with that? I am so buying one
[07:01:35] <topls64> no. home hobbiest
[07:02:09] <topls64> I have other microstep drives if i need the resolution
[07:04:12] <topls64> I have to check my motor current ratings
[12:26:21] <steve_tek> hello
[12:26:47] <steve_tek> is there anyone here who is using a mesa 7i43 as a step/dir generator (and would like to share advice / hal config)?
[13:36:09] <JanVanGilsen> http://imagebin.org/34997
[13:38:15] <alex_joni> JanVanGilsen: how does it update?
[13:38:18] <alex_joni> time based?
[13:40:19] <JanVanGilsen> it checks if the currenttime >= lastupdatetime + offset
[13:40:42] <alex_joni> right.. nice ;)
[13:40:58] <alex_joni> does it autoscale?
[13:41:08] <alex_joni> or do you set the scale?
[13:41:58] <JanVanGilsen> the lenghth of the timeaxis is a fixed time...
[13:42:24] <BigJohnT> JanVanGilsen: nice
[13:43:22] <alex_joni> I meant the other one
[13:44:29] <JanVanGilsen> you set <max_>,<min_> and <scale> values
[13:44:38] <alex_joni> sounds good :)
[13:46:27] <BigJohnT> dang you would think the compiler would know you really didn't mean to call it a pointer :)
[13:46:35] <alex_joni> heh
[13:46:57] <alex_joni> well.. try to write one, and you'll start to understand why it's so nice to "guess" what the programmer meant
[13:47:16] <BigJohnT> LOL I bet that would be a nightmare
[13:47:25] <alex_joni> it's actually not that complicated
[13:50:55] <BigJohnT> you would think that the error messages would be a bit more descriptive like "did you really mean to use a pointer with x"
[14:19:53] <JanVanGilsen> http://imagebin.org/35002 added a <minorscale>
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[15:23:23] <alex_joni> now the logger
[15:25:06] <JanVanGilsen> http://imagebin.org/35007 : added <majortimescale> and <minortimescale>
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[15:27:14] <jepler> JanVanGilsen: those graphs are looking really nice
[15:28:51] <JanVanGilsen> I still need to add an optional title, and recaled fonts :)
[15:30:00] <JanVanGilsen> jepler: wait 'till you see them move ;)
[15:33:57] <JanVanGilsen> I also wanted to ad the option to ad multiple lines on one graph, I might do that if i get the multiple level xml-tags issues solved
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[16:51:51] <micges> hello all
[16:52:57] <DanielFalck> micges: hello
[16:55:38] <micges> DanielFalck: how digging dxf code is going ?:)
[16:56:03] <DanielFalck> good- I'm having some fun with it - learning
[16:56:21] <DanielFalck> studying more about python than anything else
[16:56:42] <micges> cool
[17:54:08] <skunkworks> I figure by june I will have stopped putting 2008 on everything..
[17:58:28] <eric_unterhausen> I'm the opposite, at the beginning of the year, I get it right. By March I have to fight the urge to put the last year on everything
[19:51:51] <christel> [Global Notice] Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen -- it's time for a somewhat late christmas pantomime.. I need to do a spot of rehubbing, it shouldn't take too long and you're welcome to point and laugh if it all breaks! Apologies for the inconvenience and have a nice day!