#emc | Logs for 2007-09-26

[00:52:51] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
[02:01:01] <wholepair> hello
[02:01:48] <toast_> hai
[02:04:05] <wholepair> I have a question about the axis interface
[02:06:33] <tomp2> just ask,someone may be able to help
[02:07:41] <wholepair> actualy I got confused for a second - it is about the TKemc interface - in the active commands area the current workplane doesn't seem to follow the program I am running
[02:08:25] <wholepair> part of my program uses g54 and another part uses g55 but the commands show g55 when I think it is cutting in g54 ?
[02:08:46] <jmkasunich_> the active commands show the state as of the line that the interpreter is interpreting
[02:08:56] <jmkasunich_> the interpreter works well ahead of the actual motion controller
[02:09:07] <jmkasunich_> (up to 200 lines or more)
[02:09:14] <wholepair> thats what I thought - just wanted to ask to be sure -
[02:10:34] <wholepair> but as a not - that is kinda confusing - not what is common on industrial machine controlers like HASS and FANUK
[02:10:38] <wholepair> note
[02:10:51] <wholepair> HAAS
[02:11:04] <wholepair> Thanks for the clarification though
[02:12:42] <wholepair> bye
[02:33:36] <cradek> fwiw I don't like that either
[02:34:02] <cradek> but, it's a pretty minor thing
[02:34:15] <cradek> I guess I never look at those at all
[02:34:31] <jmkasunich_> you don't use tkemc much at all do you?
[02:34:55] <cradek> those are in AXIS too, but we put them on the MDI tab because we figured they were useless at all other times
[04:25:58] <toast_> toast_ is now known as toastydeath
[06:52:57] <anonimasu> hm
[06:53:15] <anonimasu> did anyone tune a random drive before?
[06:53:24] <anonimasu> with unknown potentiometers :p
[06:53:39] <anonimasu> I have P1 P2 and P3 and I have nfc what they are, They are PID(that much I know)
[06:54:10] <anonimasu> can you cange one and see what hapens and determinate if it's P/I/D?
[06:56:55] <Jymmm> no docs available?
[10:01:21] <toast__> aggressive cat is aggressive!
[10:01:24] <toast__> defensive cat is defensive!
[10:40:07] <alex_joni> toast__: ?
[10:50:35] <toast__> logger_emc is logging?
[10:50:38] <toast__> it sounded kind of like a lolcat meme
[12:05:53] <alex_joni> bbl
[12:15:47] <Guest969> Guest969 is now known as skunkworks_
[12:19:32] <cradek_> cradek_ is now known as cradek
[12:33:40] <Guest969> Guest969 is now known as skunkworks__
[12:36:53] <skunkworks__> skunkworks__ is now known as skunkworks_
[12:50:18] <jeeten> where can we order the live cd?
[12:50:47] <archivist> download it
[12:51:00] <jeeten> i tried 4 times...my internet provider sucks
[12:51:28] <jeeten> takes 50 hours
[12:51:28] <archivist> ah ok
[12:51:40] <jeeten> then connection cuts
[12:52:03] <jeeten> anywhere i can order it?
[12:53:10] <jeeten> hello?
[12:53:18] <jepler> jeeten: just a second, I'm looking for a link to a mailing list post for you
[12:53:33] <jepler> jeeten: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/2386/focus=2391
[12:53:36] <jeeten> thanks mucho gracias
[12:53:55] <jepler> I don't know if anyone actually tried this service the last time it was mentioned
[12:54:45] <jlmjvm> jepler:how close is the 2.2 release?
[12:55:13] <SWPadnos> hi jeeten
[12:55:24] <jeeten> hi there people
[12:55:30] <SWPadnos> I can probably send you a CD - I believe I have your address
[12:55:41] <SWPadnos> I'm not sure what shipping to Mauritius costs though :)
[12:56:15] <jeeten> ok..no problem...i will gladly wire you the money.
[12:56:25] <jeeten> including cd duplication costa
[12:56:28] <SWPadnos> heh
[12:56:50] <jeeten> my email is jeetendra_g10@yahoo.com
[12:57:01] <SWPadnos> not necessary, unless I see that it costs $100 to ship to you
[12:57:11] <jeeten> could you give me details to wire transfer ?
[12:57:30] <jeeten> lol..
[12:57:34] <SWPadnos> if necessary, I will. I don't mind spending a few bucks on shipping for you
[12:57:45] <SWPadnos> (as long as you buy dinner if I ever get out there :) )
[12:57:53] <jeeten> i would gladly wire you...just to keep things interesting...
[12:58:03] <jeeten> oic..
[12:58:04] <jeeten> lol..
[12:58:25] <jeeten> ok...heres the deal.. you stay at my place,board + room
[12:58:27] <SWPadnos> (I'm the guy who mentioned travel on the gecko list, if you haven't figured it out yet :) )
[12:58:31] <SWPadnos> that's a deal!
[12:58:56] <jeeten> you will give me a good advance notice before coming..
[12:59:03] <jeeten> so i can set up things
[12:59:12] <SWPadnos> well, since it takes about 3 days to fly there, I can't help it
[12:59:25] <SWPadnos> as long as I mention it before I take off
[12:59:46] <archivist> hmm could be time to set up a bittorrent feed
[12:59:47] <SWPadnos> do you want to wait for 2.2 or get something now?
[12:59:48] <jeeten> looool...
[13:00:06] <jeeten> um..i am hard pressed by some poeple to get something solid working
[13:00:15] <SWPadnos> I think 2.2 will be released "before the end of the year", but I don't know for sure
[13:00:27] <SWPadnos> ok. let me check shipping prices
[13:00:36] <jeeten> well,i just need to get something for PR...
[13:00:50] <jeeten> they just want to see something made in mauritius cutting somethin
[13:00:52] <jeeten> g
[13:01:54] <jeeten> (seriously..do give me a few weeks notice if you are coming)
[13:01:57] <SWPadnos> heh
[13:02:21] <SWPadnos> you'll probably have 6 months notice - it's not all that cheap to get there so it would take some planning :)
[13:02:46] <SWPadnos> unless I manage to do a round-the-world trip this November-December, which I may do
[13:02:46] <jeeten> wait for winter...summer is taken up by elite tourists
[13:02:53] <SWPadnos> bastards! :)
[13:03:24] <jeeten> the air mauritius raises prices severely in summer
[13:03:27] <skunkworks_> wait wait - I want to send you cd's also..
[13:03:45] <jeeten> lol..
[13:03:51] <skunkworks_> :)
[13:05:06] <SWPadnos> which heh
[13:05:15] <SWPadnos> hmmm. so it's spring there right now
[13:05:41] <jeeten> winter is ending .
[13:06:11] <jeeten> the hotelas are gearing up,tourist prices skyrocketing right now
[13:06:38] <jeeten> even now they are room -saturated..
[13:06:47] <jeeten> but if u stay at my place..
[13:06:54] <jeeten> things are super cheap
[13:07:27] <SWPadnos> I remember you mentioning that very good restaurants are like $5 a meal
[13:08:01] <jeeten> location based: in city quite cheap
[13:08:22] <archivist> just get cheese on toast for that here at a cheap cafe
[13:08:23] <jeeten> near beaches and resorts (or if you look like a white rich tourist)
[13:08:29] <jeeten> things get expensive.
[13:09:01] <SWPadnos> archivist, heh - you can't even get coffee there for that price (none you'd want to drink anyway)
[13:09:02] <jeeten> nah...no need for cheese..
[13:09:13] <archivist> hehe
[13:09:19] <jeeten> if i order..(i'm indian of origin) i make things cheap
[13:09:30] <SWPadnos> I'd look like a white rich tourist for a couple of days, then I'd start to look like a red rich tourist :)
[13:09:46] <jeeten> yeah...my bro in law..he's scotish
[13:09:49] <archivist> SWPadnos, cheap roadside drivers cafe not the posh crap
[13:09:53] <jeeten> he had a hell of a time with the sun
[13:10:17] <jeeten> he became completely like a lobster..
[13:10:28] <jeeten> he got cooked
[13:10:52] <SWPadnos> my ancestry is eastern european, so if I spend much time outdoors, I end up with a nice dark tan - I'm kind of olive skinned unless i'm pasty white from being in the basement at the computer all the time :)
[13:10:57] <jeeten> he didn't really like MRU though
[13:11:28] <jeeten> too placid...not much to do except swim,fish.hike,
[13:11:50] <jeeten> water sports..
[13:12:01] <jeeten> some shopping.
[13:12:10] <jeeten> very good if looking for relax time.
[13:12:10] <SWPadnos> do you have postal codes there? I don't see one with your address
[13:12:28] <jeeten> nah...too small country...no postal code
[13:12:35] <SWPadnos> heh -ok
[13:14:44] <jeeten> which address is that..the one saying morc montreal coromandel?
[13:14:48] <SWPadnos> well, UPS and FedEx are expensive as hell. US postal service isn't too bad, but there's no transit time listed forthe $2.70 rate
[13:14:59] <SWPadnos> Morcellement Montreal
[13:15:03] <jeeten> ah--ok..
[13:15:10] <jeeten> normal posting should do
[13:15:26] <jeeten> we bought a 5 axis cnc,a vmc and an edm
[13:15:38] <jeeten> we should make killer gantries with those.
[13:15:57] <SWPadnos> the transit time is likely to be 2-3 weeks. the priority and express mail are 6-10 days
[13:16:19] <jeeten> just take ordinary mail...
[13:16:31] <SWPadnos> "First Class International" only says "varies" for transit time, but it's only $2.70 :)
[13:16:47] <jeeten> that should do...
[13:17:08] <jeeten> i will be needing emc only in like a month..
[13:17:27] <SWPadnos> ok, so the address you posted in the gecko group is good - at Adaptive Neuro-Computing Associates ??
[13:17:42] <jeeten> yeah...one is my office...
[13:17:47] <jeeten> one is my home office.
[13:18:07] <jeeten> both are used...but i prefer morc montreal..
[13:18:37] <jeeten> what do you think of my purchases:
[13:18:43] <jeeten> 1 vmc
[13:18:48] <jeeten> 1 5 axis cnc
[13:18:50] <jeeten> 1 edm
[13:19:30] <SWPadnos> ok - that's the one I have. I'll try to get it out this week, though I'm busy on a big project so I'm not sure I'll be able to
[13:19:30] <SWPadnos> sounds good to me :)
[13:19:30] <jeeten> that should be great for my factory
[13:19:30] <SWPadnos> indeed. the only thing missing is a lathe
[13:19:34] <SWPadnos> and big bandsaw
[13:19:39] <jeeten> take your time..i am stepping from VB io.dll right now...fine for small stuff
[13:19:47] <SWPadnos> and a grinding machine
[13:19:59] <SWPadnos> and a polishing machine
[13:20:24] <jeeten> i had a 15000 $ loan. i got each second hand for like 5000$
[13:20:35] <SWPadnos> oh, in that case you're doing well :
[13:20:37] <SWPadnos> :)
[13:20:38] <jeeten> there was a fanuc lathe... i had no money left
[13:20:41] <SWPadnos> bummer
[13:20:49] <jeeten> someone from madagascar took it
[13:21:06] <jeeten> the prices was like near scrap...
[13:21:29] <jeeten> now i have to figure what is damaged,what is still working etc..
[13:22:04] <jeeten> should take me two months..
[13:22:25] <jeeten> even i can't recondition them all immediately,i think thats the best purchases i got
[13:22:30] <SWPadnos> let's hope so :)
[13:22:37] <jeeten> the 5 axis cnc has a lathe..
[13:23:00] <SWPadnos> you can use a reasonably-sized mill as a lathe for some projects
[13:23:01] <jeeten> but no feeder.
[13:23:12] <jepler> SWPadnos: what site did you point me at the other day when you were talking about the quad quad athlon 1u system?
[13:23:21] <SWPadnos> aberdeen systems
[13:23:51] <SWPadnos> http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/Stonehaven-A135.htm
[13:24:22] <jeeten> thnaks swpadnos...if any problem do advise me...gotta do a db software for a customer.
[13:24:25] <jeeten> catch u guys later
[13:24:33] <SWPadnos> ok - see you later
[13:24:36] <jepler> SWPadnos: thanks
[13:24:41] <jeeten> c u jep
[13:24:56] <SWPadnos> that thing is probably the loudest computer you've ever seen - it has 6 pairs of 1u fans, which are probably running at 5000 RPM
[13:25:37] <SWPadnos> jepler, thinking of upgrading your compile server? :)
[13:25:55] <SWPadnos> that's a whole farm on its own
[13:27:43] <jepler> SWPadnos: oh I just wanna look at the specs and drool
[13:27:48] <SWPadnos> heh
[13:27:56] <jepler> that's a whole lotta computer
[13:28:07] <SWPadnos> I'm surprised it only takes up to 64G memory
[13:28:18] <SWPadnos> yeah, it is
[13:30:16] <SWPadnos> wow - only $1750 for the motherboard
[13:33:37] <SWPadnos> heh - ok. I was initially surprised it's so inexpensive, but I think that system could be put together for around half the price
[13:40:41] <jepler> I don't spot any 16-core AMDs besides the 1U -- am I overlooking them?
[13:40:58] <SWPadnos> they're just using a SuperMicro 1u server
[13:41:06] <SWPadnos> the motherboard is available for $800
[13:41:40] <SWPadnos> it's about $9k for a motherboard, 4xquad-core CPU, 63 GB, and 3x 1TB drives (plus a big-ass case to hold it all)
[13:41:47] <SWPadnos> err - 64 GB
[13:42:14] <jepler> can you ship one of those to me? If so, you can sleep on my floor when you come visiting..
[13:42:20] <SWPadnos> wow!
[13:42:28] <SWPadnos> I may want you to pay for shipping though
[13:42:58] <SWPadnos> incidentally, I found a place that has those high resolution monitors in stock for only $1000 or so
[13:43:08] <jepler> stop tempting me
[13:43:15] <SWPadnos> which is a lot for a 22" LCD but ...
[13:43:14] <SWPadnos> :)
[13:43:59] <SWPadnos> I need to see if I can get Wolf:ET to work at full res. that would be awesome (if it's not a slideshow)
[13:44:51] <cradek> I think I'd be disappointed in a 200dpi screen because I'd be keenly aware of all the software that works badly with it
[13:44:59] <SWPadnos> heh
[13:45:52] <SWPadnos> also, the cheapo one I have will only get to 33 or 40 Hz refresh or some such, and that's assuming I had 4 DVI outputs set up the right way
[13:45:57] <cradek> otoh, $1k isn't all that much - I still have (and use) a 21" monitor that cost me more than that
[13:46:08] <SWPadnos> yeah
[13:46:15] <jepler> cradek: with jigglywindow technology you could set certain ill-behaved windows to have a fixed 2x magnification
[13:46:25] <SWPadnos> the color probably isn't as good on the LCD, though it's not bad by any means
[13:46:52] <cradek> jepler: is jigglywindow the same as jellovision, or is this another new X "technology"?
[13:46:59] <jepler> cradek: sorry, I meant jellovision
[13:48:13] <SWPadnos> it's amazing how much my wife likes her jellovision
[13:49:43] <jepler> not many places on pricewatch.com show the opteron 8347 or 8350
[13:49:50] <SWPadnos> nope
[13:49:53] <jepler> is it just a paper launch?
[13:50:04] <SWPadnos> $800 cheapest, $900 for the HE version
[13:50:07] <SWPadnos> no, I think they actually exist
[13:50:50] <SWPadnos> but the 8xxx series is only needed for quad or octal socket machines, so it's not a very consumer-ish thing
[13:51:54] <jepler> wow -- 4 cores @ 1.9GHz in only 55W? (8347HE)
[13:52:37] <SWPadnos> pretty amazing, huh
[13:53:03] <SWPadnos> the core2 duo is available in 33W packages (up to 2GHz or thereabouts)
[13:53:35] <SWPadnos> (dual core, just for the power comparison)
[13:55:58] <jepler> that sure is a turnaround compared to the 130W monsters of a couple years ago (Pentium D for instance)
[14:24:52] <SWPadnos> yeah - I think my Athlon 1800 (1533 MHz) is 95W
[14:25:07] <SWPadnos> and some of the Pentium-whatevers were in the 200W range IIRC
[15:22:08] <Adam1_> morning
[17:03:09] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/scripts/latency-test:
[17:03:09] <CIA-8> * Allow specification of both base-period and servo period
[17:03:09] <CIA-8> * Allow use of standard suffixes (e.g., ms, us, ns) when specifying period to te
[17:03:09] <CIA-8> st
[17:03:09] <CIA-8> * Allow testing of one-thread systems (specify "-" or 0 for other period)
[17:47:25] <JymmmEMC> got anything coming Fed Ex? http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/09/26/vo.tx.fedex.truck.crash.wfaa
[17:51:10] <LawrenceG> flash.... crap... oh yea Hi JymmmEMC
[17:52:08] <JymmmEMC> LawrenceG: if you can't watch the video on ubuntu, you suck =)
[17:52:14] <JymmmEMC> oh hi LawrenceG ;)
[17:52:26] <LawrenceG> http://imagebin.ca/view/8y5uQE.html
[17:52:58] <LawrenceG> got some new collets for my machine
[17:53:21] <LawrenceG> todays job is to build a box around the holder I cut
[17:53:22] <JymmmEMC> on the LG washing machine?
[17:53:47] <JymmmEMC> or the HF machine =)
[17:53:48] <LawrenceG> LG... they stole my intials!
[17:54:28] <LawrenceG> my messy desk.... better pictures in a few hours :}
[17:54:55] <JymmmEMC> s/hours/years/
[17:55:06] <LawrenceG> bbl... taking the dog and the wife for a walk
[17:55:25] <JymmmEMC> who's walking who?
[18:15:14] <SWPadnos> howdy Matt
[18:15:26] <mshaver> hi steve!
[18:15:43] <SWPadnos> how are you these days?
[18:15:55] <mshaver> do you know where the sample gcode is on the stock ubuntu install?
[18:16:05] <mshaver> good, working!
[18:16:46] <SWPadnos> /etc/emc/something_or_other
[18:17:29] <SWPadnos> no, wait. that's not it
[18:17:49] <mshaver> ok
[18:18:18] <mshaver> got a guy on the phone & no system here...
[18:18:40] <SWPadnos> /usr/share/emc/ncfiles
[18:20:00] <mshaver> THANKS!!!!
[18:20:27] <cradek> if you run a sample config (without installing it in your home directory) it will default to that location
[18:21:00] <SWPadnos> you're welcome
[18:21:10] <cradek> (I think)
[18:21:12] <SWPadnos> hey - do you still have that modbus VFD sitting around?
[18:21:14] <cradek> Hi, matt
[18:21:17] <mshaver> cool, a guy in CA is asking me...
[18:21:41] <mshaver> hey chris!
[18:22:05] <mshaver> SWP: yes!
[18:22:38] <SWPadnos> ok. any way you can spare it for a little while so I can test my modbus module with something other than a $6000 PLC?
[18:22:48] <SWPadnos> (that I have to give back soon)
[18:23:21] <mshaver> the whole modbus project keeps coming & going. No one can decide whether they're going to put a modbus plc in this machine or not...
[18:24:05] <SWPadnos> I downloaded libmodbus (one of the two of them anyway), and it seems to work fine. I can read/write registers with the demo program
[18:24:08] <mshaver> the drive is installed in a machine, but I'm supposed to get a plc to play with from these folks any day now
[18:24:12] <SWPadnos> ah, ok
[18:24:36] <mshaver> yep, everyone calls theirs libmodbus!
[18:24:49] <SWPadnos> heh
[18:25:14] <mshaver> Is this code you can send me? I can try it out here this evening if you want!
[18:25:18] <SWPadnos> the main problem is making a generic modbus HAL module (user or kernel space)
[18:25:40] <mshaver> I was thinking user space
[18:25:55] <SWPadnos> well, it's kind of geared toward the PLC I have at the moment. lemme get the link to this libmodbus though - it works with minimal tweaking
[18:26:16] <SWPadnos> the generic part is the problem
[18:26:30] <SWPadnos> maybe it makes more sense to have specific modules for whatever is connected
[18:27:16] <mshaver> it would be like "loadusr (if thats the command) modbus 40200 40201 40202" I guess...
[18:27:40] <SWPadnos> well, sort of
[18:27:55] <mshaver> so you'd know what registeres you could read & write
[18:28:05] <mshaver> yea, sort of...
[18:28:17] <SWPadnos> there are several address spaces for modbus, and some PLCs can combine two 16-bit integers into a single 32-bit integer
[18:28:24] <mshaver> OK, I admit it, I haven't thought this through! ;)
[18:28:44] <SWPadnos> you can send block read/write commands, so aggregating multiple addresses into a single packet is much more efficient
[18:28:53] <SWPadnos> dot dot dot :)
[18:29:31] <mshaver> I was sticking with the old time standard stuff, 16 bit registers, commands 3 & 6 (I think are read regs & wrte regs)
[18:29:44] <SWPadnos> then again, if you want separate modules for each device, then you have a problem of sharing the serial port
[18:30:03] <SWPadnos> there's still read_register_multiple
[18:30:07] <SWPadnos> or write
[18:30:24] <SWPadnos> fora PLC, there are also coil read/write and input/output read/write
[18:30:27] <mshaver> that's handled by the device address, but there could only be one module
[18:30:54] <SWPadnos> no - sharing the serial port as in "two modules wanted to write at the same time, which one gets to?"
[18:30:58] <mshaver> one module/port
[18:31:08] <SWPadnos> icky-poo ;)
[18:31:23] <mshaver> icky, but worky!
[18:31:26] <SWPadnos> mayb-y
[18:31:41] <SWPadnos> that means one device per port
[18:32:07] <SWPadnos> EMC2 - taking the "bus" out of "modbus" for 37 minutes!
[18:32:08] <mshaver> or multiple devices all defined statically at module load time
[18:32:11] <SWPadnos> sure
[18:32:19] <SWPadnos> that's the "sharing the serial port" question
[18:32:39] <mshaver> we're almost killing the "mod" part too!
[18:32:57] <SWPadnos> I guess a userspace program can have as much config data as it wants - it can use its own ini / xml file if necessary
[18:33:08] <SWPadnos> I was thinking of the issues for an RT implementation
[18:33:28] <mshaver> I was just going to say that, but I can't bear to add more config files...
[18:33:33] <SWPadnos> heh
[18:33:49] <SWPadnos> once we move everything over to SGML, it'll all be in one file ...
[18:34:06] <mshaver> worse in the rt domain is modbus/tcp
[18:34:28] <mshaver> how'd you like to autodetect & drive network card hardware!
[18:34:33] <SWPadnos> this library does support TCP packets, and RTNet works, for small values of work
[18:35:09] <mshaver> haven't looked at RTNet yet
[18:35:29] <SWPadnos> I did a little, plus talked to some guys that got it working (for power substations, I think)
[18:35:49] <JymmmEMC> Even has a optional probe.... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921754000P?vName=Gifts&keyword=009-21754&sLevel=0&sid=ie_11502_A_x8
[18:36:03] <SWPadnos> https://launchpad.net/libmodbus/
[18:36:22] <SWPadnos> http://copyleft.free.fr/wordpress/index.php/libmodbus/
[18:36:33] <SWPadnos> the second link is where I downloaded it
[18:36:42] <SWPadnos> I haven't emailed about 1.4 yet
[18:36:46] <SWPadnos> (it's at version 1.2 now)
[18:37:06] <SWPadnos> I think the other one is at 0.2.1 or something
[18:37:52] <SWPadnos> oh, it's at 0.0.1 I guess :)
[18:39:21] <JymmmEMC> Craftsman CNC machine, Even has a optional probe.... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921754000P?vName=Gifts&keyword=009-21754&sLevel=0&sid=ie_11502_A_x8
[18:40:02] <mshaver> I'll look....
[18:41:45] <mshaver> I have got this going here with the VFD: http://pes.free.fr/
[18:43:09] <mshaver> Well, back after a while...
[18:43:30] <SWPadnos> that's the crappy one
[18:45:25] <mshaver> I did a lot of rework & de-Frenchifying
[18:48:03] <SWPadnos> I basically only had to remove all the write loops in the demo (and change the baud rate)
[18:48:36] <SWPadnos> there's not a lot of documentation, but the code is reasonably laid out
[19:11:45] <skunkworks_> hmm - stuff oozing out of this video card capasitors is probably why it became flakey.
[19:12:24] <jepler> hm yeah that's not supposed to happen
[19:12:47] <SWPadnos> that's why they have the little creases in the top of the can
[19:13:07] <SWPadnos> so they can spray instead of explode (neither of which is supposed to happen :) )
[19:15:26] <skunkworks_> yey
[19:15:35] <skunkworks_> I think it may have gotten too hot.
[19:16:10] <skunkworks_> The card was the second card in a dell slim case. where the cards sit - there is no real airflow.
[19:16:18] <skunkworks_> (well - now there is ;))
[19:39:51] <alex_joni> hi all
[19:42:36] <skunkworks_> Hi alex
[19:44:15] <alex_joni> what's up skunkworks_ ?
[19:44:31] <alex_joni> I meant to say sam .. but autocomplete has a weird way to function
[19:44:40] <skunkworks_> busy
[19:44:41] <alex_joni> it seldom writes what I mean it to :P
[19:44:42] <skunkworks_> :)
[19:44:46] <skunkworks_> heh
[19:48:29] <alex_joni> * alex_joni gets dizzy from looking at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Debian-package-cycle.png
[19:54:45] <skunkworks_> clear as muc
[19:54:47] <skunkworks_> or mud
[19:57:17] <skunkworks_> Hi user__
[19:59:32] <user__> Hello today skunkworks, skinnupuppy here working on pops pc...
[20:01:30] <alex_joni> * alex_joni laughs at "My Buddhist Name"
[20:01:30] <skunkworks_> ah
[20:02:02] <user__> user__ is now known as skinnypuppy2
[20:03:01] <alex_joni> seems my name is "Prince Brilliant Wisdom"
[20:03:40] <skunkworks_> alex_joni: you must have a link..
[20:04:07] <alex_joni> http://mybuddhistname.com/index.php
[20:04:55] <skunkworks_> heh
[20:05:48] <skunkworks_> Joy Moon Queen
[20:05:51] <alex_joni> heh, seems yours fits you too
[20:05:58] <alex_joni> err.. not that
[20:06:01] <skunkworks_> what did you get?
[20:06:03] <alex_joni> I tried "sam sokolik"
[20:06:10] <skunkworks_> ah - I added my middle name
[20:06:10] <alex_joni> Great Teacher Cloud Pure
[20:06:13] <skunkworks_> heh
[20:06:21] <skunkworks_> I like that better
[20:06:25] <alex_joni> sounds about right
[20:06:47] <skunkworks_> * skunkworks_ doesn't know about the 'pure' part
[20:06:48] <alex_joni> great teacher (on cncforum at least :P), and cloud pure for innocence
[20:06:58] <alex_joni> * alex_joni didn't want to say naivity :P
[20:08:00] <Roguish> gentlemen, good day, is there a match4 or match2 along with match8 in hal?
[20:08:25] <Roguish> and where might i find the syntax for match
[20:08:39] <Roguish> match8? or 2 or 4?
[20:08:46] <Roguish> if it exists?
[20:09:27] <jepler> Roguish: "man match8"
[20:09:42] <jepler> Roguish: you can use it as a match4 by leaving some of the .aN pins and .bN pins unconnected
[20:09:48] <alex_joni> just leave unneeded pins unconnected
[20:10:00] <jepler> for instance, by connecting only .a0, .a1, .b0, and .b1 you create a "match2"
[20:10:17] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/match8.9.html
[20:10:34] <jepler> (when not otherwise documented, pins generally default to 0, 0.0 or FALSE; you'll notice that the manpage shows that match8.N.in, the cascade input, defaults to 1 or TRUE)
[20:11:08] <Roguish> then does one loadrt match8 or match4 or match2?
[20:11:17] <SWPadnos> heh. I have two great names, depending on whether I use my middle name or not:
[20:11:20] <SWPadnos> "Great Teacher Diamond Pleasure Pounder"
[20:11:23] <jepler> you 'loadrt match8' and refer to 'match8.0.etc'
[20:11:30] <jepler> but in your mind you know you're only matching two elements
[20:11:29] <SWPadnos> and "The Monk Great Eloquence"
[20:11:36] <Roguish> ok
[20:11:48] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: pleasure pounder? eww
[20:11:56] <SWPadnos> heh
[20:12:21] <alex_joni> sounds like some of the stuff that spamassassin doesn't catch
[20:12:25] <SWPadnos> maybe when you get older, it won't seem so ewww ;)
[20:12:55] <alex_joni> maybe eww wasn't the best sound :)
[20:41:17] <skunkworks_> pleasure pounder.. just rolls off the Tongue
[20:41:38] <cradek> sounds like something you'd order at burger king
[20:41:39] <alex_joni> it was about time someone implemented an alternative to DNS
[20:41:53] <alex_joni> and ANDNA sounds nie
[20:41:54] <alex_joni> nice
[20:42:14] <alex_joni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANDNA
[20:42:13] <skunkworks_> * skunkworks_ pronounces it a few times..
[20:42:27] <alex_joni> ROFL
[20:45:05] <Roguish> jepler: can i use net with a float? like with a mux input?
[20:45:31] <Roguish> or anyone else?
[20:46:12] <alex_joni> sure you can
[20:46:40] <alex_joni> net signal-name(of_type_float) halpin(float) halpin(float) ...
[20:47:32] <Roguish> so 'net mux4.0.in0 0.01' is ok?
[20:47:44] <alex_joni> no
[20:47:48] <alex_joni> you want to set a value?
[20:47:54] <alex_joni> net links pins together
[20:48:26] <jepler> Roguish: If you look at the manpage for mux4 (terminal: man mux4) you'll see that 'in0' through 'in3' are of type 'float'
[20:48:44] <Roguish> ok, what about man page for 'net'?
[20:48:52] <jepler> "man halcmd"
[20:49:01] <jepler> net signame pinname ...
[20:49:01] <jepler> Create signname to match the type of pinname if it does not yet
[20:49:01] <jepler> exist. Then, link signame to each pinname in turn. Arrows may
[20:49:01] <jepler> be used as in linkps.
[20:49:51] <Roguish> ok
[20:50:11] <jepler> if 'signame' existed already but with a different type (such as bit) then the net command will fail with an error
[20:50:47] <Roguish> gotta use the long way.
[20:50:51] <Roguish> ok
[20:51:35] <jepler> $ halrun
[20:51:35] <jepler> halcmd: loadrt mux4
[20:51:35] <jepler> halcmd: net example mux4.0.in0
[20:51:35] <jepler> halcmd: net example mux4.0.sel0
[20:51:35] <jepler> <stdin>:2: Type mismatch on pin 'mux4.0.sel0'
[20:51:51] <jepler> bbl
[20:59:10] <lerneaen_hydra> what was the command called that brought up a line with the current execution time of various threads?
[21:00:27] <SWPadnos> halcmd show thread
[21:00:40] <lerneaen_hydra> oh, right
[21:00:44] <SWPadnos> the execution times are in parentheses next to the thread names and the function names
[21:00:56] <lerneaen_hydra> here I was thinking it was a much longer convoluted name
[21:01:09] <SWPadnos> you can alias halcmd to something much longer if you choose
[21:01:20] <lerneaen_hydra> good point
[21:02:32] <alex_joni> good night all
[21:03:36] <SWPadnos> see yo alex_joni
[21:03:55] <SWPadnos> or should I say "Prince Brilliant Wisdom"
[21:04:08] <alex_joni> lol
[21:04:25] <alex_joni> good night Great Teacher Diamond Pleasure Pounder
[21:04:55] <SWPadnos> POUNDER!!!
[21:04:57] <SWPadnos> err - night
[22:09:57] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: That's QUARTER POUNDER to you
[22:23:24] <dmess> is someone feeling PROUD???
[23:12:41] <toast> toast is now known as toastydeath
[23:20:06] <skyfox00> when you have an emc e-stop output(via pluto_servo) and an external e-stop button or'ed together, should the output of the or'ing be sent back into emc so it knows when the user hits the external e-stop?(instead of freaking becauss of falowing error)
[23:35:33] <fenn> yes
[23:37:45] <skyfox00> what emc signal would that input be conected to?
[23:55:27] <fenn> iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in
[23:57:26] <skyfox00> ok, thanks!