#emc | Logs for 2007-06-14

[00:28:58] <Skullworks-PGAB> such drama
[00:30:21] <Skullworks-PGAB> It appears they attempted to deliver my mill today - and despite my nagging still managed to use my home address instead of the shop address.
[01:05:48] <chr0n1c> those stinky shipping people...
[01:06:04] <chr0n1c> chr0n1c is now known as ohiopctechDOTcom
[01:10:07] <Skullworks-PGAB> yeah - I was all "mindset' to spent hours hoisting that beast into position, and now I find it isn't here...
[02:43:10] <David36_LA> hi, is it possible to run scripts/emc when not loged in as root. I did the make setuid setp but cannot run as normal user
[02:43:34] <David36_LA> rtai fails to allocate shared mem
[02:43:38] <David36_LA> works fine as root
[02:45:50] <David36_LA> error is RTAPI: ERROR: failed to map shmem
[02:46:30] <David36_LA> I can run "realtime start" with no errors
[02:52:11] <toastydeath> take up manual machining?
[02:52:21] <skunkworks> David36_LA: most of the developers are pre-occupied at the moment.
[02:52:31] <skunkworks> http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
[02:53:48] <Jymmm> David36_LA: how did you install?
[02:54:21] <tomp> David36_LA: that works fine with a live cd or an install done with a live cd. also, i think its make ; sudo make install when i build a run-in-place system from cvs
[02:54:46] <Jymmm> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?RtaiSteps
[02:55:33] <Jymmm> another bug.. it seems udev deletes the shared memory device files <Not a bug - udev maintains a dynamic /dev, creating and deleting devices on demand.> ... this is confirmed by rebooting, and /dev/rtai_shm and /dev/rtf[0-9] disappear. a temporary fix to this problem is to re-make the device files, then tell udev not to delete them. sudo (cd /usr/local/src/rtai-3.2/ ; make dev ) sudo cp -a /dev/rtai_shm /etc/udev/devices/ sudo cp -a /dev/rtf[0-9] /etc/udev/d
[02:55:45] <Jymmm> but that was last updated 2005
[02:57:05] <toastydeath> wtf are they doing
[02:57:15] <toastydeath> did they just ship machines in
[02:57:16] <toastydeath> or what
[02:57:31] <Jymmm> they've been there for years
[02:59:06] <toastydeath> oh
[02:59:23] <toastydeath> i am half excited, my place of business might use emc for a diamond turning machine
[02:59:51] <toastydeath> which would be a cool project to get paid to do
[03:01:20] <skunkworks> toastydeath: for turning lenses?
[03:01:33] <toastydeath> nah, bearings
[03:05:16] <toastydeath> they used to be manual machines
[03:05:28] <toastydeath> and the controls they stuck on them suck really bad
[03:06:42] <toastydeath> so if it works one one, it might make sense to put it on the other three
[03:06:45] <toastydeath> because it doesn't use g-code
[03:07:13] <toastydeath> and doesn't have any real control mechanism other than basic feedrates/repetition
[03:07:27] <toastydeath> which is a problem, because while it has "roughing" cycles, EMC does not
[03:07:52] <toastydeath> and that's a major part of the operation
[03:09:23] <toastydeath> if i had any sort of legitimate programming ability i would try to code type I roughing
[03:09:33] <Jymmm> You just gotta love it when you're uploading at 1M BYTE /s
[03:09:46] <cradek> you're talking about lathe roughing cycle?
[03:10:53] <toastydeath> yar
[03:11:26] <toastydeath> type II would be difficult to code
[03:11:41] <toastydeath> but type I doesn't allow a decrease in X
[03:11:56] <cradek> where can I find a good description of how type I is programmed and what it does?
[03:12:14] <toastydeath> me, unfortunately
[03:12:23] <toastydeath> or the Haas manual i believe has a pretty good description
[03:12:50] <cradek> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HaasRoughingFinishing
[03:12:55] <cradek> someone (maybe you?) made this page
[03:13:05] <toastydeath> not i
[03:13:08] <toastydeath> i've never been to the wiki
[03:13:16] <toastydeath> that's quite the
[03:13:17] <toastydeath> uh
[03:13:25] <toastydeath> long example for something that's a bit simpler than that
[03:13:39] <cradek> unfortunately the page is not descriptive enough to implement
[03:13:42] <toastydeath> anyway type I roughing is usually g71
[03:13:48] <cradek> maybe it needs an example or something
[03:13:54] <toastydeath> the important parts are the P and Q words
[03:14:06] <toastydeath> it reads the block that starts with P
[03:14:11] <toastydeath> and ends at the one with Q
[03:14:17] <toastydeath> it looks for the profile
[03:14:22] <toastydeath> whatever toolpath is defined
[03:14:29] <toastydeath> then turns down to it, in steps
[03:14:33] <skunkworks> cradek: 2 words.. rigid tapping. Your getting sidetracked ;)
[03:14:48] <cradek> could you draw a picture with the dimensions and toolpath shown?
[03:15:01] <toastydeath> i think i can just find one
[03:15:04] <toastydeath> give me a minute or ten
[03:15:10] <cradek> that would be helpful
[03:16:37] <cradek> skunkworks: I've written some lathe programs here for demos, and the roughing is tedious
[03:17:10] <skunkworks> I bet.
[03:17:17] <toastydeath> here's a fanuc example
[03:17:19] <toastydeath> http://toolingandproduction.com/archives/1098/1098sptk.asp
[03:17:41] <toastydeath> please note after a g71/g72 roughing cycle, after the Q block
[03:18:07] <toastydeath> calling g70 after it (no words necessary) will cause the lathe to follow the toolpath exactly
[03:18:22] <toastydeath> that the last g71/72 cycle turned to
[03:19:04] <toastydeath> the example i found didn't mention that
[03:19:05] <cradek> reading...
[03:20:25] <cradek> I'm puzzled by the M.08 (doesn't help that it's floating between two lines)
[03:20:49] <cradek> oh I see, it's on N6
[03:21:04] <toastydeath> yar
[03:23:56] <cradek> too bad I can't see those dimensions :-/
[03:24:12] <toastydeath> =(
[03:24:27] <toastydeath> the haas cnc lathe programmer's guide
[03:24:28] <toastydeath> has it
[03:24:37] <toastydeath> like, has twelve pages on the subject or something
[03:24:42] <toastydeath> but i can't find it, sorry
[03:25:31] <Jymmm> anonimasu: check your email now or when you wake up
[03:31:57] <cradek> hmm, this is a lot more complicated than I expected
[03:32:23] <toastydeath> are you looking at type I or type II
[03:32:39] <toastydeath> in type I, you may only increase X as you get closer to the spindle
[03:32:47] <toastydeath> so there's no clearance issues
[03:34:22] <toastydeath> type II is the one with clearance issues
[03:37:04] <toastydeath> it is aggrivating that the most important lathe canned cycle is the hardest to write
[03:38:05] <Jymmm> poor old jmkasunich... gets to ditch work for a week and STILL stuck behind the computer coding.
[03:54:32] <CIA-2> 03jmelson 07v2_1_branch * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_ppmc.c: make index sense wait after index-enable
[03:55:24] <mdynac> how's the fest going?
[04:00:18] <CIA-2> 03jmelson 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_ppmc.c: make index wait after index-enable asserted
[04:11:12] <jmkasunich> pretty good
[04:11:27] <mdynac> kewl
[04:15:10] <jmkasunich> goodnight
[04:15:26] <mdynac> night
[04:36:07] <CIA-2> 03jepler 07v2_1_branch * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_motenc.c: merge rev 1.23: fix index handling
[04:46:31] <CIA-2> 03jepler 07v2_1_branch * 10emc2/debian/changelog: note changes
[04:48:33] <cradek> df
[04:48:36] <cradek> oops
[04:48:51] <Jymmm> 99.9% used
[04:49:22] <cradek> yep always
[04:50:20] <Jymmm> =)
[05:09:18] <ds2> Hmmmmm
[06:01:57] <Jymmm> ???
[07:37:17] <anonimasu> Jymmm: nice!
[07:37:27] <anonimasu> Jymmm: what program do you use?
[07:37:38] <Jymmm> BASIC
[07:38:10] <Jymmm> is that what you drawing was?
[07:38:23] <anonimasu> eh?
[07:38:34] <anonimasu> it was really nice..
[07:38:35] <anonimasu> :)
[07:38:48] <anonimasu> though how'd you make the nc code?
[07:38:49] <anonimasu> :D
[07:39:32] <anonimasu> im going to test engrave it tonight
[11:47:14] <tomp> Dallur ? Could you tell me whats' the select on Position Sel B ( Mux2 #5 ) of the THC drawing?
[11:48:46] <tomp> or, where's hall files compliment to the .odg file, then i wont be asking questions ;)
[11:48:54] <tomp> hal
[13:04:58] <cradek_> cradek_ is now known as cradek
[16:04:49] <archivist> * archivist is waiting for some shiny new object to appear in front of the webcam "look what we made!"
[16:08:26] <jmkasunich> me mostly make a mess
[16:08:32] <jmkasunich> s/me/we
[16:09:53] <jepler> archivist: http://axis.unpy.net/ <-- some stuff done on the lathe
[16:10:01] <jepler> archivist: we haven't made chips on mazak yet
[16:11:06] <archivist> nice cnc threading here would be very nice
[16:11:08] <jepler> scroll down for the "evil bullets" also made on lathe: http://axis.unpy.net/01181527543
[16:11:38] <jepler> emc2.1 does threading .. emc2.2 will add some more lathe features as detailed in that second URL
[16:13:00] <archivist> Im just quoting for some parts where I need to "borrow" a local cnc
[16:13:44] <archivist> www.archivist.info/p6130001.jpg for example shapes
[16:15:21] <jepler> doesn't look like anything too tricky, but you need the right equipment (I don't have it either)
[16:16:36] <archivist> yes a local machine shop has a new hass tl2 and no operator, so if the price is right I can go and play with it
[16:16:43] <archivist> haas
[16:17:32] <archivist> in some respects it looks slower than using the capstan here
[16:20:48] <archivist> does emc do tapered threads
[16:54:02] <xemet> hi
[16:54:13] <xemet> jepler: here: http://axis.unpy.net/01181319466
[16:54:27] <xemet> I cannot download the file go-rtai-smp.sh
[16:54:41] <xemet> is that file available?
[17:07:22] <maddash> in axis, trigger a limit switch in auto mode. then, do the following sequence: trigger estop (f1), trigger estop reset (f1 again), and click "Override limits." the resulting EMC_AXIS_OVERRIDE_LIMITS would not work (but it should), and emc drops the message packet without any sort of response message (at least not in DEBUG = 0X 7FFF...). yet another bug...
[17:09:24] <maddash> for the lazy folk who ask for repeatability procedures but are unwilling to try them out: "would not work" in this case means that clicking on the "override limits" would mark its check box momentarily, after which the check mark would disappear again.
[17:10:03] <maddash> ^^ v2.1.5... I tried 2.1.6, but it tried biting my arm off...
[17:32:26] <elovalvo> xemet?
[17:36:02] <elovalvo> #join cam
[17:37:00] <xemet> qui sono
[17:38:11] <elovalvo> hai ricevuto la mia mail?
[17:38:17] <xemet> si
[17:38:54] <elovalvo> stamattina ho preparato la macchina con ubutu 6.06 amd64
[17:39:02] <xemet> ho chiesto sopra per il file...ma jepler ancora non ha risposto
[17:39:30] <xemet> funziona?
[17:39:41] <elovalvo> ah, io l'ho mandato a Radek
[17:40:04] <xemet> no è jepler
[17:40:36] <elovalvo> ho spedito i CD all'AITEm
[17:41:19] <xemet> domani vengo in dipartimento
[17:41:28] <elovalvo> ok
[17:41:38] <xemet> ma è rimasta una copia per me?
[17:41:46] <elovalvo> certo...!
[17:41:53] <xemet> ancora devo vedere quello con il filmato
[17:42:22] <elovalvo> il filmato va bene, la voce è quella di Roberto....
[17:42:41] <elovalvo> si fa quello che si può...
[17:43:00] <xemet> pazienza
[17:43:23] <elovalvo> l'hai visto quel box linux?
[17:43:30] <elovalvo> hai capito che fa?
[17:43:49] <xemet> si
[17:43:58] <xemet> è più o meno quello che ho io
[17:44:06] <xemet> una scatola tutto compreso
[17:44:28] <xemet> c'è dentro un embedded, una scheda per la gestione dei motori, e l'alimentatore
[17:44:31] <elovalvo> e quanto ne vogliono?
[17:44:37] <xemet> non c'èil prezzo
[17:44:45] <xemet> se non ricordo male
[17:44:57] <elovalvo> e quale linux li pilota?
[17:45:24] <xemet> non c'è scritto...ma non c'è scritto neanche che software usa
[17:45:54] <xemet> mi pare strano che abbiano fatto un software loro...
[17:47:38] <xemet> ma la macchina 64 bit funziona?
[17:48:32] <elovalvo> ha solo il sistema operativo installato e funziona
[17:49:16] <elovalvo> ho dovuto solo sistemare la scheda video
[17:49:26] <elovalvo> in modalità vesa
[17:50:30] <xemet> quindi ora si dovrebbe cambiare il kernel
[17:50:50] <xemet> ma il file che non si riesce a scaricare cosa dovrebbe fare? Cosa è SMP?
[17:50:55] <elovalvo> appunto, ma la procedura descritta fa riferimento ad un file che non c'e'
[17:51:34] <elovalvo> no, a quanto ho caipto è una procedura che crea dei file .deb per aggiornare la macchina
[17:51:59] <elovalvo> senza stare li a copiare comandi astrusi
[17:52:35] <xemet> quindi crea tutto quello che serve? Oppure serve solo ad attivare l'SMP...non ho capito bene perchè il nome del file è go-rtai-smp
[17:52:53] <xemet> SMP = Symmetrical multi processing...ma non so bene cos'è, posso intuirlo dal nome
[17:54:00] <jepler> I can't read most of that, but there is a file missing from my website. I can't put it online until next week when I am home
[17:54:42] <jepler> after monday, remind me if I have still not put it online
[17:54:49] <xemet> jeler, ok
[17:55:11] <xemet> what exactly do that file?
[17:55:18] <elovalvo> jepler, thank you
[17:57:16] <elovalvo> Vado a cenare, a domani
[17:57:31] <xemet> qui c'è un altro sito per fresatrici: http://www.pubblinadia.com/
[18:00:11] <jepler> xemet: if I remember correctly, it is a script that invokes the "configure" script of rtai with a series of --enable and --disable flags
[18:01:46] <xemet> ok
[18:01:54] <xemet> thanks
[19:20:34] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/meter.c: Make keyboard selection of probe item actually work.
[19:32:56] <maddash> anyone want to buy my homemade PCI board? heh.
[19:36:48] <maddash> jmkasunich: hi.
[19:38:11] <JymmmmEMC> ds2: Hey Fry's has a 8 port 10/100 switch for $5 today is the last day of the sale on it.
[19:38:30] <ds2> and?
[19:38:43] <JymmmmEMC> ds2: what, you dont' do networking?
[19:38:55] <alex_joni> he only uses 2 port switches
[19:38:55] <JymmmmEMC> ds2: you carry around a floppy between your computers?
[19:39:05] <JymmmmEMC> alex_joni: LOL xover huh?
[19:39:18] <ds2> JymmmmEMC: I have a pile of about knee high of switches
[19:39:31] <JymmmmEMC> ds2: switches or hubs?
[19:39:35] <ds2> switches
[19:39:36] <ds2> also got hubs
[19:39:55] <JymmmmEMC> get rid of the hubs QUICK! just toss em in the trash
[19:40:09] <ds2> the hubs are integrated part of the router
[19:40:36] <JymmmmEMC> what this "router" from 1942 or what?!
[19:40:43] <maddash> hm, I thought `s/hubs/switches/` was true, not the other way.
[19:41:04] <ds2> nothing that nice
[19:41:55] <JymmmmEMC> maddash: you mena performance wise? Hun's are layer 1, switches are layer 2/3 you want a switch, not a hub.
[19:42:29] <JymmmmEMC> maddash: or broadcast traffic will suck the life out on your lan.
[19:42:36] <ds2> stop broadcasting then!
[19:42:48] <ds2> chuck samba and windows
[19:42:55] <ds2> disable ARP
[19:42:58] <ds2> =)
[19:43:07] <JymmmmEMC> ds2: disable arp, yeah... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
[19:43:18] <ds2> you do NOT need ARP to work
[19:43:37] <JymmmmEMC> why don't I just disable anything above layer 1 while I'm at it.
[19:43:51] <ds2> only if they broadcast
[19:44:05] <ds2> disabling arp enhances security of your network
[19:44:57] <ds2> if it isn't doable, why do you think the option is offered by ifconfig?
[19:45:06] <JymmmmEMC> why not just use string and tin cans instead!
[19:45:17] <ds2> wiretap issues with strings ;)
[19:45:19] <JymmmmEMC> because it's nix, and you can do anything!
[19:45:25] <JymmmmEMC> ds2: SMACK!
[19:45:48] <ds2> there are places who have for practical purposes did away with ARP
[19:46:04] <ds2> and most wireless routers offer that option
[19:48:37] <ds2> ARP is about as required as DHCP is required
[19:50:22] <robin_sz> meep?
[19:50:35] <robin_sz> * robin_sz got his new toy today
[19:51:55] <maddash> robin_sz: beep.
[19:52:35] <robin_sz> evening ...
[19:52:54] <robin_sz> got the nitrogen generator today
[19:56:20] <robin_sz> the final stage compressor is "interesting"
[19:56:30] <robin_sz> 20HP motor, 3 stages
[19:57:18] <robin_sz> dunno what it acheives in practice, but the guage on the third stage goes to 10,000 psi
[20:05:13] <robin_sz> nice bit of kit though, decent PLC and HMI on it
[20:06:12] <JymmmmEMC> Is it possible to add a REVERSE switch to most common household box fans somehow?
[20:06:58] <JymmmmEMC> robin_sz: You got a hooker as a toy? Nice!
[20:08:00] <JymmmmEMC> robin_sz: You adding that to the "company perks" so your employee doens't have to go Thailand now?
[20:28:51] <maddash_> jmkasunich: my computer is froze...
[20:28:55] <maddash_> n
[20:29:00] <maddash_> s/is/was/
[20:29:07] <maddash_> jmkasunich: could you pastebin that thing?
[20:30:06] <maddash_> maddash_ is now known as sudo_maddash
[20:50:08] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: how much did your laser cost?
[20:52:58] <robin_sz> sudo_maddash, which one?
[20:53:33] <sudo_maddash> grep -ri debounce *
[20:53:39] <sudo_maddash> oops.
[20:54:04] <robin_sz> my trumpf YAG laser cutter?
[20:54:20] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: the cheaper one. i'm thinking of getting one myself, because my bits are getting chewed up.
[20:54:47] <robin_sz> new price?
[20:55:05] <sudo_maddash> eh?
[20:55:22] <robin_sz> the price for a new one, or second hand?
[20:55:49] <sudo_maddash> the second?
[20:56:21] <robin_sz> mmm ... about 200K dollars should find a good used one, maybe 8 to ten years old
[20:56:38] <sudo_maddash> * sudo_maddash goes back to breaking bits
[20:56:50] <robin_sz> mine was about 500K USD new
[20:56:52] <ds2> how many watts are those YAG laser cutters?
[20:57:28] <robin_sz> ds2, they vary ... mine is 800w, but there is a 1200W version too
[20:57:55] <robin_sz> equivalent to about 1500 and 2500w of CO2 laser
[20:57:57] <ds2> robin_sz: is that enough to cut copper sheets?
[20:58:15] <robin_sz> nope
[20:58:41] <robin_sz> hint: the mirrors in CO2 lasers are made from what metal?
[20:58:56] <ds2> aren't they gold sputtered? (guessing)
[20:59:01] <sudo_maddash> psht. what can an laser do that a wire edm can't?
[20:59:15] <robin_sz> sudo_maddash, plastics
[20:59:34] <robin_sz> sudo_maddash, and cut at 20m/minute
[20:59:49] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: my cnc bits cut plastics fine
[21:00:11] <robin_sz> sudo_maddash, you asked: what can an laser do that a wire edm can't?
[21:00:14] <sudo_maddash> er, did you haphazardly tack on a zero?
[21:00:19] <ds2> engraving pictures
[21:00:45] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: lasers do 20 meters/minute?
[21:00:47] <ds2> what kind of power does one need to do SLOW engravings on balsa wood?
[21:01:04] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: at what thickness?
[21:01:25] <robin_sz> ds2, 10w
[21:01:45] <robin_sz> sudo_maddash, yes lasers do 20m a minute in thin stuff, like 1mm
[21:02:08] <ds2> 10W?! sigh so much for solidstate lasers
[21:02:24] <robin_sz> ds2, eh?
[21:02:43] <ds2> the biggest solid state lasers I see around are about 1W
[21:03:04] <robin_sz> you are kidding arent you?
[21:03:35] <ds2> no; just basing on what I actually found (not what I read about and no one seems to sell)
[21:03:44] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: what about 50 mm?
[21:03:58] <ds2> <-- laser newbie
[21:04:08] <robin_sz> sudo_maddash, 50mm is generally too thick for laser ... plasma or waterjet
[21:04:33] <robin_sz> ds2, most industrial pump diodes are 25 to 100w
[21:04:53] <ds2> robin_sz: in actually use outside of a lab?
[21:05:07] <sudo_maddash> robin_sz: :P
[21:05:08] <robin_sz> ds2, yes, in common useage
[21:05:12] <ds2> wow
[21:05:28] <robin_sz> obviously, you dont use them on their own
[21:05:37] <ds2> i should see where I can find one of those cheap/surplus
[21:05:54] <robin_sz> you arrange a few kw of them in a bank to be useful
[21:05:59] <robin_sz> ds2, try ebay
[21:06:23] <ds2> robin_sz: sorry, but I am morally oppose to doing business on ebay.
[21:06:54] <ds2> (which might be why I don't see the higher power lasers as being 'available')
[21:07:06] <robin_sz> probably
[21:07:08] <robin_sz> amish?
[21:08:35] <robin_sz> for balsa Id use a 10W sealed CO 2 tube
[21:08:45] <robin_sz> expect to pay about $100 to $200
[21:15:01] <robin_sz> http://cgi.ebay.com/Coherent-Diode-Laser_W0QQitemZ280124724573QQihZ018QQcategoryZ53141QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[21:16:46] <robin_sz> http://cgi.ebay.com/40W-808nm-OPEN-HEAT-SINK-DIODE-LASER-BAR-MO-0129-8474_W0QQitemZ320126606592QQihZ011QQcategoryZ7287QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[21:17:10] <ds2> no, I do not agree with the practices of ebay
[21:17:12] <ds2> be happy to go directly to a store or mail order
[21:17:16] <ds2> (sorry, network hiccup)
[21:19:04] <robin_sz> http://cgi.ebay.com/COHERENT-CLASS-4-60-100W-808nm-LASER-DIODE-ARRAY-DPSS_W0QQitemZ180130447491QQihZ008QQcategoryZ14954QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[21:21:03] <robin_sz> well, you can order them direct from Coherent if you prefer
[21:21:55] <robin_sz> a packaged 40w bar will set you back around 10K
[21:23:05] <ds2> =)
[21:23:37] <robin_sz> thats why a 10w sealed co2 is a better plan then
[21:23:51] <ds2> isn't the power supply a hassle?
[21:24:02] <robin_sz> not really
[21:24:19] <robin_sz> go to a medical eqpt auction
[21:24:23] <ds2> what about cooling? seems the commercial ones use liquids
[21:24:40] <robin_sz> by a complete co2 system for a few dollars
[21:24:53] <ds2> that would be ideal
[21:25:13] <robin_sz> $friend went to a medical eqpt auction this week
[21:25:28] <robin_sz> bought a hi tech YAG for 50
[21:25:40] <sudo_maddash_> $50?
[21:25:43] <robin_sz> several smal co2 went for <20
[21:25:45] <sudo_maddash_> sudo_maddash_ is now known as maddash
[21:26:50] <ds2> I'd offer to pay $40 for something like that =)
[21:27:32] <robin_sz> first find your local med eqpt auction
[21:27:51] <maddash> damn, how does this debounce gadget work?
[21:27:58] <ds2> donno how to do that around here
[21:28:12] <robin_sz> or, offer someone on here a say, 25% comission to buy you one on ebay
[21:28:38] <ds2> robin_sz: I just offered 100%+ commision!
[21:29:03] <robin_sz> see if anyone takes it up
[21:29:11] <robin_sz> * robin_sz is in the uk
[21:29:16] <ds2> *nod*
[21:31:02] <robin_sz> my other lasers are argon and co2
[21:32:12] <robin_sz> wow, apple macs .. moronic or what
[21:33:06] <robin_sz> $mate just maile dme .. he has a mac, and a file in ".hqx" format, ie compressed. obviously, it doesnt handle this natively, you need some sort of add on decomressor
[21:33:22] <ds2> hmmm
[21:33:27] <robin_sz> he has now downloaded several decompressors from the net ...
[21:33:31] <robin_sz> and guess what?
[21:33:58] <robin_sz> each one is supplied in a compressed format
[21:34:04] <ds2> hahahaahah
[21:34:20] <robin_sz> thats a special sort of stupidity that is
[21:34:21] <ds2> not Self Extracting?
[21:34:26] <robin_sz> nope
[21:34:57] <ds2> let's build vaults and put the combination knob on the inside!
[21:35:05] <robin_sz> apple. one button mice for one braincell users
[21:56:35] <alex_joni> g'night all
[22:19:57] <anonimasu> h
[22:19:58] <anonimasu> hmm
[22:20:04] <anonimasu> can anyone test how a part looks on their emc?
[22:24:11] <jepler> anonimasu: I can load it in 'sim' but nothing beyond that
[22:25:15] <anonimasu> that's great :)
[22:25:15] <anonimasu> let me post it
[22:26:33] <jepler> OK -- I may get pulled away to the mazak any minute but if I do I'll look at it when I get back
[22:30:02] <anonimasu> just a sec
[22:30:10] <anonimasu> err np
[22:30:10] <anonimasu> :9
[22:30:11] <anonimasu> :)
[22:31:07] <anonimasu> http://pastebin.com/929246
[22:32:27] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/halcmd.c: reject commands when they have too many arguments. Without this, 'linksp a b c d' was accepted as equivalent to 'linksp a b'
[22:33:00] <anonimasu> I dont know if its the full one of it sheetcam ate most of it
[22:33:12] <anonimasu> I dont have my serial/regkey here
[22:34:19] <jepler> anonimasu: looks like it might be incomplete
[22:34:24] <jepler> there are some blocky letter shapes and some arcs
[22:34:28] <anonimasu> nice
[22:34:28] <jepler> do you want a screenshot or something?
[22:34:39] <anonimasu> if it's not too much of a hassle
[22:34:40] <anonimasu> :)
[22:34:53] <anonimasu> *really happy it works*
[22:35:05] <anonimasu> http://imagebin.org/8962
[22:35:13] <anonimasu> that's how it should look the complete one
[22:36:15] <jepler> yeah it's incomplete
[22:36:58] <jepler> http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/1023-2.png http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/1023.png http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/1023-3.png
[22:37:34] <anonimasu> nice
[22:37:35] <anonimasu> :
[22:37:36] <anonimasu> :)
[22:37:43] <anonimasu> looks like it works great to make engravings with
[22:37:56] <anonimasu> is that 0.97" ?
[22:38:07] <jepler> http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/1023-prop.png
[22:38:11] <jepler> yes inch
[22:38:14] <anonimasu> yeah right size too
[22:38:52] <anonimasu> sheetcam says it'll take 2.5 minutes to engrave
[22:39:20] <anonimasu> not too bad
[22:40:27] <jepler> yeah the estimate from AXIS is obviously wrong (low)
[22:40:27] <jepler> not sure why
[22:40:44] <anonimasu> :)
[22:42:01] <anonimasu> thanks for the help!
[22:42:05] <anonimasu> I'm going to bed now
[22:42:56] <jepler> see you anonimasu
[22:43:02] <jepler> if you actually run it on emc send us pics
[22:46:32] <anonimasu> I'll do that
[22:52:48] <martin_lundstrom> Hello everyone
[22:53:27] <martin_lundstrom> Do anyone know a nice conveyor system for a plasma cutter?
[23:07:14] <anonimasu> night
[23:11:17] <martin_lundstrom> night
[23:12:31] <toastyde1th> fff
[23:12:36] <toastyde1th> by "nice" do you mean free?
[23:12:44] <toastyde1th> not that i have an answer for you, just curious
[23:26:45] <martin_lundstrom> no, not free, just a nice design to a fair price