#emc | Logs for 2006-12-01

[01:35:04] <cradek> hi mac
[01:35:04] <mdynac> anyone home???
[01:35:24] <mdynac> i have an emc question......
[01:36:19] <mdynac> if i download the latest cvs head version, will i get the adaptive feedrate function?
[01:36:27] <cradek> yes
[01:36:56] <cradek> you might want to grab the v2_1_branch which we're stabilizing for the 2.1.0 release
[01:37:00] <mdynac> and if so , how do i enable it, it has changed since the last time i dl it...
[01:37:20] <cradek> umm it's an M code now I think
[01:37:23] <cradek> let me see if I can figure it out
[01:37:36] <cradek> there's also a feedhold pin now and some other stuff
[01:37:37] <mdynac> please
[01:38:14] <mdynac> wow, nine inch nails are coming thru nicely on my fredhly tubed amp tonite.....
[01:38:33] <mdynac> feedhold, kewl....
[01:39:24] <cradek> M52 controls it
[01:39:30] <cradek> M52 P0 = enable adaptive feed
[01:39:35] <cradek> M52 P1 = disable adaptive feed
[01:39:56] <cradek> no I got it backward
[01:40:30] <mdynac> linuxcnc
[01:40:41] <cradek> M52 P1 enables, M52 P0 disables
[01:40:44] <mdynac> oops wrong keyboard
[01:41:10] <mdynac> okay kewl
[01:41:21] <cradek> in the same way, M53 controls feed hold
[01:41:26] <mdynac> gonna try it out tomorrow, at the shop
[01:41:42] <cradek> M50 controls feed override, M51 spindle speed override
[01:42:04] <cradek> a lot of new controls
[01:42:33] <mdynac> i c
[01:44:26] <mdynac> any you guys into vacuum tube audio?
[01:45:25] <cradek> I fix antique radios sometimes
[01:45:38] <cradek> but not into the audiophile stuff
[01:46:08] <mdynac> i'm obsessed....
[01:46:22] <cradek> hope you're not one of the guys who steals the 45s out of good old radios
[01:46:53] <mdynac> no sir, i leave old radios alone....they need to stay that way....
[01:46:58] <cradek> (there are lots of nice current manafacture tubes, people who screw up old stuff piss me off)
[01:47:06] <cradek> glad to hear that
[01:47:24] <mdynac> old = good
[01:47:40] <mdynac> you cannot beat a dynaco stereo 70
[01:47:42] <cradek> I always see projects online where some dork scrapped the guts of a good radio and glued his ipod inside it instead and thinks he's done something cool
[01:48:03] <cradek> and a flat panel screen, don't forget that!
[01:48:06] <cradek> arrrrrgh
[01:48:21] <mdynac> obviosly he does not understand how to load a tube....
[01:48:44] <cradek> have a photo of your amp?
[01:49:24] <mdynac> at the moment i listen to a Sonic Frontiers Anthem 1 Integrated
[01:49:41] <cradek> heh, no idea what that is
[01:49:48] <cradek> say atwater-kent and I'll know :-)
[01:49:52] <mdynac> google it
[01:50:48] <mdynac> using an A/D/S cd frontend along with a magnum/dynalab FT101A TUNER....
[01:51:34] <mdynac> all hooked to a set of Fulton Tempo speakers........
[01:52:32] <mdynac> an old friend of mine Bob Fulton was an audio pioneer, a genius with speakers.....google him too...
[01:52:39] <mdynac> god rest his soul
[01:54:30] <mdynac> VPI HW19 mkIII turntable with eminent technology air bearing tonearm.....(took a mortgage out for that!!!!)
[01:55:12] <mdynac> all made in North America i miht add.....
[01:57:54] <mdynac> i do have a fischer fm200b....a very sweet all tube stereo fm tuner.....
[02:05:41] <mdynac> so if i were to put the M52 P1 in my ini file under RS274NGC_startup_code it should be there???
[02:06:53] <mdynac> i have an adc channel on the motenc board set for it.....at least it used to work with the old G code
[03:03:55] <mdynac> hey skunk what be da hps bro????
[03:04:14] <mdynac> haps
[03:43:32] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile: funit-at-a-time is implied by -O2 where supported; workaround for bdi4.50 brain damage
[04:44:57] <cradek> jepler: I remember you saying you found a non-live install on the dapper CD but I don't see it. what's the trick?
[04:48:18] <skunkworks> I think he had the wrong cd. (do I actually remember that bit of info?) something prior to dapper.
[04:48:41] <cradek> ok that would explain it
[04:48:51] <SWPLinux> it was a dapper pre-release CD, but it said Dapper when it booted, IIRC
[04:49:01] <cradek> ok
[04:49:20] <SWPLinux> though that could have been the one that asked if he wanted to update to Edgy when he ran Update manager ;)
[04:50:49] <SWPLinux> hmmm - which was the magic recipe for doing the RT kernel patches?
[06:08:26] <flyboy> need help with folling
[06:09:45] <flyboy> need help with setup emc2
[06:11:43] <flyboy> I get 0 follow on x and y axis can anyone help a newbie
[06:12:37] <flyboy> hello
[06:13:29] <flyboy> * flyboy slaps jepler around a bit with a large trout
[06:14:58] <flyboy> anyone here
[06:22:17] <flyboy> ANY ONE HERE
[09:38:39] <ValarQ> ValarQ is now known as Vq^
[13:20:36] <skunkworks> Well I finally started looking at the mechanics of the k&t. It is going to require a little 'engineering'.
[13:21:07] <skunkworks> Come to find out - x they spin the lead screw. z they spin the nut. :(
[13:23:47] <skunkworks> it is unreal how they get the motion to Z (they used the same servo for x and z). they have a shaft that is parrallel with the x lead screw that has 3 ball slots in it. form there it changes direction and then gets coupled into the z axis nut.
[13:24:19] <alex_joni> heh
[13:24:44] <skunkworks> I mentioned to my father the other day.. 'wouldn't it suck if they spun the ball nut on the z axis?'
[13:25:33] <alex_joni> you can't escape what you're afraid of
[13:26:01] <skunkworks> thought creates reality ;)
[13:26:07] <alex_joni> right
[13:32:35] <SWPLinux_> SWPLinux_ is now known as SWPLinux
[13:33:31] <skunkworks> alex_joni: big plans for the weekend?
[13:36:40] <alex_joni> skunkworks: yeah.. a long sleep :D
[13:43:53] <lerman_> lerman_ is now known as lerman
[13:55:31] <lerman_> lerman_ is now known as lerman
[14:34:41] <jepler> cradek: yes, I had the wrong CD -- it was a dapper beta or something
[14:49:44] <cradek> it's a little too bad they took it out, but I like the new install, especially how fast it is
[14:53:41] <jepler> there's still an "alternate install" CD image if you want the desktop system packages but a text-mode installer
[14:53:46] <jepler> it's just not on the same media
[14:54:38] <jepler> even the ultra-cheapie motherboards are starting to see support for >4GB RAM onboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813157093
[14:55:46] <skunkworks> jepler: how long did it take you to get the fpga?
[14:56:32] <jepler> skunkworks: If I remember correctly, I ordered it on the monday before thanksgiving and got it on friday
[14:57:10] <skunkworks> ok - it is supposed to be usps 2day. But it depends on how quick they get it out ;)
[14:57:16] <skunkworks> 2-3day
[14:58:10] <skunkworks> and I have never had luck with usps package tracking
[14:58:22] <skunkworks> (compared to fedex/ups)
[14:58:23] <jepler> yeah it's pretty useless
[14:58:29] <jepler> you sound anxious to get this little toy!
[14:58:49] <skunkworks> yah. Time is always the issue though :)
[15:01:52] <skunkworks> with the cool performance cradek has gotten and my bit of playing. It really looks like a viable solution.
[15:02:34] <jepler> those performance graphs of cradek's are with emc's pwmgen, not the fpga
[15:02:59] <skunkworks> right - I mean the simple h-bridge - emc pid loop
[15:03:12] <jepler> I'm virtually convinced that emc's pwmgen is good enough for servos with a modest time constant .. it's the quadrature counting software can't keep up with
[15:04:38] <skunkworks> Right - and if I want higher resolution encoders (which I am not sure if I absoultly need yet) the fpga is great.
[15:04:55] <skunkworks> plus just a snappier machine :)
[15:06:49] <skunkworks> I am trying to remeber if our toshiba vfd has +/- 10 volt in as an option.
[15:06:52] <skunkworks> :)
[15:35:38] <jepler> hi ejholmgren
[15:35:59] <cradek> 7
[15:36:06] <jepler> why was 7 afraid?
[15:36:18] <jepler> because 7 10 11 </octal joke>
[15:37:13] <cradek> I don't get it
[15:39:08] <jepler> I botched it
[15:39:20] <jepler> it's "why was 6 afraid? because 7 10 11"
[15:39:22] <skunkworks> why would 7 be afraid - if 7 ate 9
[15:40:01] <skunkworks> ah
[15:53:53] <skunkworks> 100 dollars of any 1000 dollar order from tower hobbies ;)
[16:22:29] <alex_joni> jepler: the fpga-work you did is very nice
[16:22:51] <alex_joni> any possibility to put some stepgens in the the fpga and increase the max pulse frequency ?
[16:23:53] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 'lo
[16:23:57] <alex_joni> lo
[16:27:34] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
[16:35:26] <Lerneaen_Hydra> what's happening?
[16:37:10] <alex_joni> nothing
[16:40:33] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, one thing I wondered, in emc, the current backlash doesn't respect maxvel and maxaccel, right?
[16:40:39] <Lerneaen_Hydra> so what accel and vel does it use?
[16:40:52] <Lerneaen_Hydra> it can't be infinite, becuase then it wouldn't work at all
[16:43:45] <SWPadnos> the answer you seek lies shrouded in mystery
[16:43:59] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ah
[16:44:12] <Lerneaen_Hydra> maybe jmk would know
[16:44:29] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, btw, how strong is a strong stepper that doesn't cost lots?
[16:44:30] <SWPadnos> it's not in stepgen, I think
[16:44:35] <SWPadnos> heh
[16:44:35] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, I see
[16:44:45] <Lerneaen_Hydra> +-10^1
[16:44:55] <SWPadnos> that's a question like "how long is a piece of string"
[16:45:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> $100-ish?
[16:45:10] <Lerneaen_Hydra> $1000-ish?
[16:45:17] <Lerneaen_Hydra> $500ish?
[16:45:22] <SWPadnos> strong relative to a model airplane, or strong relative to a dump truck?
[16:45:23] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah, I know..
[16:45:35] <Lerneaen_Hydra> strong enough for 1:1 drive of a smaller mill
[16:45:42] <Lerneaen_Hydra> something like 2.5mm/rev
[16:45:58] <SWPadnos> ah - something like 150-300 oz-in then
[16:46:09] <Lerneaen_Hydra> what price range is that?
[16:46:09] <SWPadnos> maybe even less
[16:46:22] <SWPadnos> damned if I know - I'm a servo guy ;)
[16:46:26] <SWPadnos> and I only shop on eBay
[16:46:30] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, I see
[16:46:40] <Lerneaen_Hydra> anon should know
[16:47:12] <SWPadnos> it also depends on whay quantity and reason you're looking for
[16:47:26] <SWPadnos> a single retrofit for personal use, vs. a lot of motors on an ongoing basis
[16:48:11] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, this would be three motors for a single retrofit, yes
[16:48:19] <skunkworks> most any new stepping motor is 'expensive' :)
[16:48:54] <SWPadnos> oh wait - you said minimill, not micro-mill (like sherline)
[16:49:12] <SWPadnos> you my need more torque than I mentioned, if you want good performance
[16:49:42] <SWPadnos> http://web6.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Stepper_Systems/Motors_-z-_Cables
[16:49:46] <alex_joni> Lerneaen_Hydra: it does obey max vel and max accel
[16:50:01] <SWPadnos> that's not bad - 434 oz-in for $99
[16:50:08] <alex_joni> the only problem is if TP is also scheduling a move that obeys max accel and max vel at the same time
[16:50:16] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, then I'm in buisness :D
[16:50:17] <Lerneaen_Hydra> not bad at all
[16:50:29] <SWPadnos> $39 if 276 oz-in will do
[16:50:29] <alex_joni> the two moves will be performed together thus getting at 2xmax_vel and 2xmax_accel
[16:50:29] <Lerneaen_Hydra> alex_joni: then what's the problem with backlash?
[16:50:37] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I saw a task on sourceforge
[16:50:41] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ah
[16:50:46] <Lerneaen_Hydra> not so nice
[16:51:13] <alex_joni> but on reversals (when backlash is needed) it's unlikely the TP commands a full speed move
[16:51:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> um, why hasn't that been fixed years ago? it sounds like a really nasty problem
[16:51:31] <Lerneaen_Hydra> but possible
[16:51:38] <alex_joni> because it's hard to fix it right ;)
[16:51:40] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ah
[16:52:07] <alex_joni> I'm not sure how you could do it properly
[16:52:20] <SWPadnos> also, there are assumptions people usually make about backlash that aren't true (like "you're only moving the motor/screw, so there's not as much load")
[16:54:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> O.o
[16:54:05] <Lerneaen_Hydra> nice
[16:57:53] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://lerneaenhydra.shacknet.nu/images/images_other/random_other/img_6280.jpg <-- this is the mill I was looking into
[16:58:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> only 11 000sek +tax
[16:58:10] <Lerneaen_Hydra> quite cheap for sweden
[16:59:07] <skunkworks> http://web6.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Sensors_-z-_Encoders/Encoders/Light_Duty_Standard_Shaft_(TRD-S_Series)/TRD-S1000-BD
[16:59:17] <SWPadnos> if it already has ballscrews, that's a great deal
[16:59:23] <skunkworks> 81 dollars - not bad
[16:59:48] <SWPadnos> not bad at all. even USDigital would charge extra for that one since it's 1000CPR
[17:01:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ok, I'm definetly going for steppers than
[17:01:05] <alex_joni> skunkworks: nice catch
[17:01:12] <Lerneaen_Hydra> SWPadnos: acme screws
[17:01:30] <skunkworks> other than it is 12-24v open collector
[17:02:02] <SWPadnos> then get VD :)
[17:02:08] <skunkworks> ok http://web6.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Sensors_-z-_Encoders/Encoders/Light_Duty_Standard_Shaft_(TRD-S_Series)/TRD-S1000-VD
[17:02:13] <skunkworks> same price
[17:03:23] <SWPadnos> that's an awesome price for a 200KHz, differential drive, 1000CPR with index encoder
[17:04:07] <SWPadnos> though I haven't looked at the difference between "light duty" and "heavy duty" yet ;)
[17:04:17] <skunkworks> I don't think it has an index - does it?
[17:04:28] <SWPadnos> the specs say they do
[17:04:41] <SWPadnos> but I could have been looking at the wrong section
[17:05:31] <skunkworks> hmm - it says 2 phase plus home posision - wow
[17:08:03] <SWPadnos> unfortunately, they don't have the size I'd need for my motors
[17:08:32] <alex_joni> I don't see any index on those encoders
[17:08:32] <SWPadnos> those are ~2" diameter and my motors need the 1.5" :(
[17:08:51] <SWPadnos> the wiring diagrams and spec sheet rrefer to Z and "home"
[17:21:00] <SWPadnos> LH: that mill looks pretty small, so the smaller motors will probably work
[17:21:59] <SWPadnos> you can check to see how much torque you would need if you have a hanging scale (the kind in supermarkets, used for checking produce weight)
[17:22:27] <SWPadnos> especially if you can use one that can record the peak (sometimes used in high school physics lab experiments)
[17:27:47] <skunkworks> SWPLinux: where where you seeing the wiring diagrams?
[17:28:13] <SWPadnos> I clicked on "specifications", the cable color codes are beneath the device chart
[17:29:38] <jepler> I get this 2-page document and I don't see wiring diagrams. http://web6.automationdirect.com/static/specs/encoderld.pdf
[17:29:44] <skunkworks> So do I
[17:30:27] <Lerneaen_Hydra> SWPadnos: those for ~$40?
[17:30:55] <SWPadnos> LH: yes, they may be sufficient
[17:31:09] <Lerneaen_Hydra> nice, definetly in my price range
[17:31:26] <Lerneaen_Hydra> as long as they're <100 then it's ok
[17:31:29] <SWPadnos> in fact, you'd probably have a hard time mounting the larger motors to the mill, the NEMA23 (176 oz-in or so) may be appropriate
[17:32:02] <SWPadnos> oh - the 276 is NEMA23, so tha's good
[17:32:43] <SWPadnos> and the extra $10 is probably well worth it :) (vs. the 166 oz-in)
[17:33:23] <SWPadnos> you should definitely get advice from some machine expert like Ray first though - I'm mostly theoretical in this realm ;)
[17:35:19] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah, right now I'm just trying to see if it's remotely possible, and it seems to be with my budget
[17:37:00] <skunkworks> SWPLinux: link?
[17:37:10] <SWPadnos> what link?
[17:37:21] <skunkworks> The pdf that you are getting for the encoders
[17:37:29] <SWPadnos> oh. one sec
[17:37:38] <SWPadnos> I was looking at the medium-duty line, so that could be a difference
[17:37:42] <skunkworks> ah
[17:39:23] <SWPadnos> http://web6.automationdirect.com/static/specs/encodermd.pdf
[17:39:29] <skunkworks> ok - I see it. The light duty doesn't have the wiring diagram
[17:39:53] <SWPadnos> right. weird
[17:40:10] <skunkworks> but in the description it does say 'Two-phase + home position'
[17:40:17] <SWPadnos> yep
[17:43:01] <Lerneaen_Hydra> SWPadnos: what would you estimate a servo+encoder for the same machine would cost?
[17:44:04] <SWPadnos> from AD, shitloads ;)
[17:44:26] <SWPadnos> they only seem to have AC servos, and they're pretty expensive
[17:44:56] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, so >$100 per axis?
[17:45:13] <skunkworks> :) most likely
[17:45:17] <SWPadnos> more like $500-$1000/axis
[17:45:31] <SWPadnos> the motors alone are $300 or so (and up)
[17:45:42] <Lerneaen_Hydra> :|
[17:45:45] <Lerneaen_Hydra> right, steppers it is
[17:46:05] <SWPadnos> for small machines, that probably makes the most sense, unless you want to buy some cheap servos off eBay
[17:46:10] <Lerneaen_Hydra> is it common to have ones with >200 steps/rev?
[17:46:16] <SWPadnos> not very
[17:46:22] <skunkworks> Lerneaen_Hydra: what are you using for drives on your lathe?
[17:46:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hmm, then I'll need microstepping
[17:46:27] <SWPadnos> I think only 5-phase steppers are generally >200 steps/rev
[17:46:30] <jepler> steppers? No, 200 steps/rev is most common
[17:46:51] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I don't know, the ones that came with it. (very very old unipolar 72step/rev)
[17:46:52] <skunkworks> our 5 phase steppers are 1000 per rev.
[17:46:56] <Lerneaen_Hydra> mid 1980s
[17:47:22] <SWPadnos> 72 is common for small steppers - like the ones used in floppy drives
[17:47:29] <Lerneaen_Hydra> these ones are quite big though
[17:47:42] <SWPadnos> 8" floppies ;)
[17:47:52] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 50x50x80mm or so
[17:47:55] <SWPadnos> or 14", if you want to go way back
[17:48:02] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hmm, ore like 50x70x50
[17:48:55] <skunkworks> (or maybe they are 500 per rev with half stepping > 1000)
[17:49:17] <skunkworks> don't really know - the drive works and that is as far as we went ;)
[17:49:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> they do around 1000 steps/sec
[17:49:28] <Lerneaen_Hydra> with the driver that came with
[17:50:00] <SWPadnos> remember - microstepping doesn't increase resolution, it just improves smoothness
[17:51:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hmm, so 1:1 with a 2.5mm/rev screw is not doable?
[17:52:02] <SWPadnos> if 0.0125 mm resolution is OK, then it may be fine
[17:52:13] <SWPadnos> but I'd check the torque requirement first
[17:52:31] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, 0.01, right, I read that as 0.1 first :p
[17:52:39] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 0.01 should be good enough
[17:52:49] <Lerneaen_Hydra> that would mean that half-stepping should be enough
[17:52:56] <Lerneaen_Hydra> maybe even full step
[17:53:06] <SWPadnos> half stepping may increase resolution - I[m not sure
[17:53:17] <SWPadnos> it depends on the driver, I bet
[17:53:23] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I think it does
[17:53:27] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah
[17:53:29] <Lerneaen_Hydra> it should be possible though
[18:00:47] <skunkworks> Lerneaen_Hydra: that looks like it has a lot of z travel. Nice
[18:01:00] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah, X and Y too
[18:01:26] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.optimum-machines.com/products/milling-machines/bf-20-vario/index.html
[18:01:36] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 480x175
[18:01:43] <Lerneaen_Hydra> for the large model
[18:03:06] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.optimum-machines.com/products/cnc-pc-controls-and-adapter-kit/61/index.html they even have a cnc-ifying kit
[18:03:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> though I'll make my own one
[18:05:30] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I wonder what gear ratio they have
[18:07:00] <skunkworks> 28ipm - Should be able to do a lot better than that :)
[18:18:16] <Lerneaen_Hydra> any idea of the lifespan of a mill of that class? (dovetail slides, acme screws)
[18:19:48] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Part%202/pic321.jpg <-- this object is two seperate peices of wood that were attached to each other. how was it made? (it took a while for me to get it, really cool puzzle IMO)
[18:23:22] <SWPadnos> the key is circular
[18:25:42] <Lerneaen_Hydra> huh?
[18:25:48] <Lerneaen_Hydra> that's not how I solved it
[18:26:05] <SWPadnos> heh - I just looked fora second or two - that was the first thing that popped into mind
[18:26:20] <Lerneaen_Hydra> circular?
[18:26:22] <Lerneaen_Hydra> how?
[18:26:41] <SWPadnos> ie, the ywo keyways you see are the ends of a quarter circle of the key shape
[18:26:48] <SWPadnos> s/ywo/two/
[18:27:00] <SWPadnos> nit two perpendicular lines
[18:27:02] <SWPadnos> not
[18:28:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, it looks the same on tha back
[18:28:29] <Lerneaen_Hydra> err, the
[18:28:30] <SWPadnos> ah - I didn't see that part :)
[18:28:34] <Lerneaen_Hydra> in da hood man
[18:30:33] <SWPadnos> well, in that case I'd just make two "key lines" on parallel tracks, between adjacent edges (pointing directly away from the camera, in that shot)
[18:31:11] <Lerneaen_Hydra> whee!
[18:31:16] <Lerneaen_Hydra> quite a cute pussle though
[18:31:19] <Lerneaen_Hydra> err
[18:31:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> wtf is up with me today
[18:31:27] <Lerneaen_Hydra> puzzle
[18:31:32] <SWPadnos> yezz, a kewt pustle
[18:31:41] <Lerneaen_Hydra> :p
[18:31:50] <SWPadnos> my typing must be contagious
[18:31:55] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah
[18:31:57] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://deadc0de.istheshit.net/ <-- haha
[18:32:42] <SWPadnos> heh
[18:34:00] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://macgyver.istheshit.net/
[18:36:06] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://squarepoodle.istheshit.net/ O.O
[18:36:26] <SWPadnos> that's the best poodle I've ever seen :)
[18:36:52] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://other_means_of_payment.istheshit.net/ O_O
[18:36:53] <Lerneaen_Hydra> dude
[18:37:00] <Lerneaen_Hydra> that's just wrong
[18:37:11] <SWPadnos> http://amazon.com.istheshit.net/
[18:37:29] <SWPadnos> heh
[18:38:13] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://sega.istheshit.net/
[18:38:16] <Lerneaen_Hydra> err
[18:38:18] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah
[18:38:53] <SWPadnos> ok. that's enough of that shit
[18:39:01] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah...
[18:40:49] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://perspective.istheshit.net/ haha
[18:40:58] <Lerneaen_Hydra> (not the same type)
[18:48:58] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://no_brain.istheshit.net/ <-- I should get a sticker like that and apply it to various objects and people^W^W
[18:49:25] <SWPadnos> I like that warning
[19:27:08] <skunkworks> mdynac: how goes the edm?
[19:28:26] <mdynac> well i kinda got snowed out today....
[19:29:20] <skunkworks> oh - you where part of the blizzard
[19:29:45] <mdynac> yep, about 10" or so, but the sun is out now
[19:30:02] <mdynac> piles of white stuff everywhere....
[19:33:28] <skunkworks> we had just a little dusting this morning. gone now
[19:35:45] <mdynac> well i'm about 50 miles west of Chicago
[19:35:52] <mdynac> we got nailed
[19:36:07] <skunkworks> I am near lacrosse WI
[19:36:19] <skunkworks> west edge of WI
[19:39:53] <mdynac> ah yes cheeseland, i have property 50 miles northwest of green bay....
[19:42:55] <skunkworks> Nice - big hunter or snowmobiler?
[19:46:51] <mdynac> niether, big sailor....
[19:58:59] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> ey wtf
[19:59:05] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> wonderful disconnects
[20:09:07] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> logger_emc: bookmark
[20:09:07] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-12-01.txt
[20:25:32] <Guest649> Guest649 is now known as skunkworks_
[20:30:52] <skunkworks_> skunkworks_ is now known as skunkworks
[21:40:24] <tomp> hello
[21:55:24] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> 'night all
[22:30:21] <dastumster> dastumster is now known as Stumpy
[22:45:53] <alex_joni> http://www.bumotec.ch/videos/des192FT.php
[23:09:03] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos