#emc | Logs for 2006-09-30

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[11:44:14] <anonimasu> hm
[11:44:19] <anonimasu> got x and y on my mill now
[11:45:39] <alex_jon3> nice
[11:45:51] <alex_jon3> moving?
[11:45:53] <anonimasu> not yet
[11:45:55] <anonimasu> in the afternoon
[11:46:12] <anonimasu> need to get electronics cleaner and spray my geckos..
[11:46:20] <anonimasu> I think I have coolant in them.
[11:47:51] <anonimasu> :)
[11:48:04] <anonimasu> * anonimasu is looking forward to moving it
[11:50:30] <anonimasu> how much work is there setting up emc2?
[11:50:41] <alex_jon3> half an hour tops
[11:50:44] <anonimasu> not extremely much for standard use
[11:50:45] <anonimasu> right?
[11:50:50] <alex_jon3> right
[11:50:54] <anonimasu> nice :)
[11:50:58] <alex_jon3> there's a liveCD with emc2 on it
[11:51:06] <anonimasu> though I'm going to test it with tcnc..
[11:51:07] <alex_jon3> so simply d/l it, burn & play
[11:51:15] <anonimasu> need to wire up the usc too..
[11:51:18] <anonimasu> in a enclosure
[11:51:34] <anonimasu> :)
[11:52:32] <alex_jon3> TCNC = Turfgrass Council of North Carolina ?
[11:52:40] <anonimasu> turbocnc
[11:53:00] <anonimasu> set up your step and dir and off you go..
[11:53:01] <alex_jon3> Technology Center for Nuclear Control ?
[11:53:20] <anonimasu> I dont have a spindle yet
[11:53:21] <anonimasu> :)
[11:59:23] <alex_jon3> awww... tcnc looks bad
[11:59:40] <anonimasu> it works pretty ok.
[12:00:04] <anonimasu> not if you compare it with a properly set up emc ;)
[12:00:22] <anonimasu> but it's not a big deal yet...
[12:00:36] <anonimasu> need to get bellows for my screws before attempting to machine anything
[12:02:03] <alex_jon3> you should be able to run emc2 with a stepper imediately
[12:02:07] <alex_jon3> without fiddling anything
[12:03:51] <alex_jon3> alex_jon3 is now known as alex_joni
[12:07:05] <robin_sz> meep?
[12:07:47] <alex_joni> meep
[12:08:56] <anonimasu> m33p
[12:12:52] <alex_joni> . beew
[12:13:17] <anonimasu> bll
[12:13:18] <anonimasu> bbl
[14:06:52] <anonimasu> iab
[14:08:33] <anonimasu> going to move x and y in a bit
[14:45:38] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/ (tc.c tc.h tp.c tp.h): use measured period to also get correct velocities in coord mode
[14:45:39] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/ (control.c motion.c usrmotintf.cc): use measured period to also get correct velocities in coord mode
[14:48:07] <anonimasu> brb..
[14:48:09] <anonimasu> moving the machine ;)
[15:01:26] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/sim/axis-puresim.ini: fix vel/accel for diagonals and axis jog slider max
[17:47:43] <danex> Hello All
[17:49:23] <alex_joni> hi danex
[18:02:01] <danex> How is your weekend ?
[18:02:46] <danex> I spent today replacing a Renishaw probe system
[18:02:46] <alex_joni> pretty ok
[18:03:26] <danex> That is what crashed the last time I was on
[18:03:42] <alex_joni> eek :)
[18:04:21] <danex> Four Thousand dollars worth of parts
[18:04:38] <alex_joni> what did you do with the old one? ;)
[18:04:56] <danex> It was trash, total loss
[18:05:07] <alex_joni> too bad :(
[18:06:08] <danex> The operator tried to probe a boss inside a cylinder, no part of the program was right
[18:07:10] <danex> You work with robots, correct?
[18:07:22] <alex_joni> right
[18:07:48] <danex> Waht Brand or your own brand?
[18:07:56] <danex> What?
[18:07:57] <alex_joni> cloos - welding bots
[18:08:08] <alex_joni> german brand, we are the local distributor
[18:08:39] <danex> Ther are a few motoman robots at my customers plant
[18:08:48] <alex_joni> I worked once with a motoman
[18:08:51] <alex_joni> but only briefly
[18:08:58] <alex_joni> http://www.cloos.de/english/produkte/Systemloesungen/Schweissprozesse/Welding_processes.php
[18:10:08] <danex> They use the motomans for welding and torch beveling
[18:10:26] <alex_joni> yeah :)
[18:10:45] <alex_joni> motoman is afaik teh biggest player in the US
[18:10:51] <alex_joni> fanuc follows that
[18:11:05] <danex> They seem to use a lot of motors
[18:11:05] <alex_joni> not so common around here though :)
[18:11:19] <alex_joni> how do you mean that?
[18:12:37] <danex> The motors do not seem to last as long as I would expect
[18:13:17] <alex_joni> ahh.. that way :(
[18:13:26] <alex_joni> I only changed a motor once on our robots
[18:13:44] <alex_joni> in the past 6 years
[18:13:50] <alex_joni> on about 30 robots
[18:14:19] <danex> I am not directly involved with the robots (yet) but I have seen the Maint dept change them about 9 months or so
[18:15:51] <danex> I think they have 11 robots plant wide, and six motors that I know of in a year
[18:17:50] <alex_joni> sounds like quite a lot
[18:18:34] <danex> I was able to get the EMC2-head to work the way I needed, with classicladder in the mix
[18:18:52] <alex_joni> danex: I still don't quite understand how that can happen
[18:20:52] <danex> I was checking the hal show and the related pins. there is a difference between the head and the release versions. on what is displayed about the pins
[18:21:36] <alex_joni> how so?
[18:21:41] <danex> It appears to be related to the output pins of the motenc cards.
[18:21:59] <alex_joni> danex: so you're saying the signal stays at the value you want
[18:22:06] <alex_joni> yet the motenc outputs don't
[18:22:07] <alex_joni> ?
[18:24:20] <danex> It seems that the signals react differently due to a parameter set?
[18:24:47] <danex> It will be better if I can copy and paste ths in a file
[18:24:59] <alex_joni> indeed.. right now it's very .. dim
[18:25:46] <A-L-P-H-A> sup?
[18:26:43] <danex> When Hal Show displays info about the pin/ parameter / signal . This is where I see the main difference Under the "dir"
[18:26:54] <jmkasunich> oh!
[18:27:00] <jmkasunich> we changed the terminology
[18:27:29] <danex> On pins to In and OUT
[18:27:35] <jmkasunich> you are seeing things like in/out/io for pins, instead of read/write
[18:27:35] <danex> ?
[18:27:46] <jmkasunich> and ro/rw for params
[18:27:55] <danex> That part is correct
[18:28:53] <danex> for what iI am seeing?
[18:29:09] <jmkasunich> ?
[18:29:48] <danex> Perhaps it would be better for me to make a file and send it
[18:30:04] <jmkasunich> pastebin it
[18:30:30] <danex> Because what happens when the program runs also may be a clue
[18:30:30] <jmkasunich> but the difference under dir is strictly cosmetic, and to reduce confusion
[18:31:02] <jmkasunich> I wouldn't expect any change when running, at least not from the "dir" changes
[18:33:10] <A-L-P-H-A> anyword on a 2.0.3?
[18:33:16] <A-L-P-H-A> oops, anyword on a 2.0.4?
[18:33:35] <danex> The other item I have is, I installed a new motherboard and new video card the "delay" message was gone with the exception of one time. But today when I powered up it occured every time? any other causes?
[18:36:18] <danex> It does not seem to affect the running of the program
[18:39:46] <danex> Well I have to go
[18:39:59] <danex> I will paste the file monday
[18:40:09] <danex> goodbye all
[18:42:01] <A-L-P-H-A> run away, it's K`zan.
[18:42:11] <A-L-P-H-A> K`zan's got cooties
[18:50:22] <Jymmm> A-L-P-H-A get/buy a girlfriend already
[18:50:41] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... russian or chinese...
[18:50:49] <alex_joni> thai should be cheap
[18:50:55] <Jymmm> A-L-P-H-A laytex
[18:51:15] <A-L-P-H-A> gotta make sure that the thai is a girl... and not a guy-l.
[18:54:58] <anonimasu> hm
[18:55:01] <anonimasu> my machine moves :)
[18:55:03] <anonimasu> nicely
[18:55:08] <anonimasu> both servos are sufficient
[18:55:15] <Jymmm> anonimasu congrats!
[18:55:18] <anonimasu> thanks
[18:55:30] <anonimasu> A-L-P-H-A: I was going to take movies but I didnt have the phone with me
[18:55:33] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu: all axis?
[18:55:36] <anonimasu> x and y
[18:55:42] <anonimasu> Z comes later :)
[18:55:44] <A-L-P-H-A> where's Z?
[18:55:47] <A-L-P-H-A> okie.
[18:55:54] <A-L-P-H-A> my Z took me a while to get one.
[18:55:57] <anonimasu> I think I need a larger servo..
[18:55:59] <A-L-P-H-A> I did a manual Z for a while.
[18:56:01] <anonimasu> it's something like 100kg..
[18:56:07] <A-L-P-H-A> oh.
[18:56:13] <anonimasu> knee..
[18:56:23] <anonimasu> not a big deal.. just need another servo :)
[18:56:23] <A-L-P-H-A> not a quill?
[18:56:26] <anonimasu> no
[18:56:36] <anonimasu> quill?
[18:56:36] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... how square is that knee?
[18:56:45] <A-L-P-H-A> knee is where the table moves
[18:56:48] <anonimasu> yeah..
[18:56:49] <A-L-P-H-A> quill is like a drill press
[18:56:52] <anonimasu> ah
[18:56:55] <anonimasu> knee.
[18:57:09] <anonimasu> probably more square then 98% of the machines out there..
[18:57:12] <anonimasu> :)
[18:58:44] <anonimasu> http://www.technolada.ru/images/muller/3488_1.jpg
[18:59:47] <anonimasu> A-L-P-H-A: just wanted clarification :)
[19:00:21] <anonimasu> im running at 3m/min now
[19:00:30] <anonimasu> going up to something like 6m/min with emc or more..
[19:00:50] <A-L-P-H-A> uh... damn
[19:00:52] <A-L-P-H-A> fast.
[19:01:07] <anonimasu> nah
[19:01:18] <anonimasu> 10m/min is the aim for rapids..
[19:01:40] <anonimasu> ;)
[19:01:50] <anonimasu> but it might be too fast for a small machine..
[19:02:05] <alex_joni> anonimasu: what drives did you have again?
[19:02:08] <anonimasu> geckos.
[19:02:15] <alex_joni> oh, G340 ?
[19:02:18] <anonimasu> yeah
[19:02:26] <anonimasu> I'll get stuck on the max pulserate.. :/
[19:02:35] <alex_joni> use the multiplier ;)
[19:02:38] <alex_joni> or the USC
[19:02:41] <anonimasu> I have both ;)
[19:02:46] <anonimasu> with a feedback board..
[19:02:52] <alex_joni> bet you won't get stuck then :)
[19:02:54] <anonimasu> hehe
[19:03:03] <alex_joni> 250kHz * 10 ;)
[19:03:12] <anonimasu> heh
[19:03:14] <anonimasu> damn
[19:03:25] <anonimasu> going to build spindle tomorrow
[19:03:35] <anonimasu> hopefully I'll be making parts before next weekend
[19:03:52] <anonimasu> need to order bellows at monday :)
[19:04:15] <robin_sz> below!
[19:04:58] <anonimasu> hehe
[19:05:10] <anonimasu> I'm really looking forward to making chips
[19:05:20] <robin_sz> you can cook?
[19:05:33] <anonimasu> alu chips
[19:05:33] <A-L-P-H-A> what's the transformers called that look like donuts? terroid?
[19:05:38] <anonimasu> torroid
[19:05:40] <robin_sz> toroid
[19:05:44] <robin_sz> well that
[19:05:47] <anonimasu> ^
[19:05:49] <anonimasu> that :D
[19:06:04] <robin_sz> we have some winding machines for them
[19:08:12] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz: really??
[19:08:15] <A-L-P-H-A> can you make me one??
[19:08:31] <robin_sz> if you cant buy it .. sure
[19:09:34] <A-L-P-H-A> how muchf or one that uses 115:50V for say? 100VAC
[19:10:16] <alex_joni> 30$ ?
[19:10:26] <alex_joni> probably less
[19:10:37] <A-L-P-H-A> I can't find one for that...
[19:12:07] <alex_joni> http://store.qkits.com/category.cfm/TR
[19:16:51] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... I guess anything 15x my plate rating should be okay... (motors are rated from 3V to 4.2V. So a 115:36VCT sounds okay)
[19:18:11] <alex_joni> http://stores.ebay.com/Antek-inc_Transformers_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ3QQftidZ2QQtZkm
[19:18:26] <alex_joni> http://cgi.ebay.com/25-25V-100VA-Toroid-Transformer-Stepper-Motor-Driver_W0QQitemZ7612490540QQihZ017QQcategoryZ4660QQcmdZViewItem
[19:22:07] <alpha-lappy> logger_aj: bookmark
[19:22:07] <alpha-lappy> See
[19:27:02] <alpha-lappy> alex_joni: thanks for the ebay link
[19:27:55] <anonimasu> :)
[19:31:08] <alex_joni> GIYF
[19:32:36] <robin_sz> A-L-P-H-A, 115 in, 50V out?
[19:33:19] <robin_sz> 36V ct toroids are easy to find
[19:33:36] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah... 36 easy... 50no.
[19:34:15] <robin_sz> 50 is easy too 25-0-25 right?
[19:35:37] <robin_sz> how many VA?
[19:35:42] <alex_joni> he said 100
[19:36:33] <robin_sz> http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=9531890
[19:36:48] <robin_sz> 25-0-25 is a standard txfmr
[19:40:00] <robin_sz> http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=4335211
[19:40:03] <robin_sz> or that one
[19:40:16] <Jymmm> But as alex_joni pointed out, the amps rating on a v-0-v transformer is per leg. So, a "12-0-12 @ 2A" is 12V@2A, and 24V@1A.
[19:40:58] <robin_sz> 100VA is 100VA
[19:41:20] <Jymmm> I was only pointing out misleading ads.
[19:41:26] <anonimasu> :)
[19:41:56] <Jymmm> robin_sz: Not necessarily.
[19:42:26] <robin_sz> you may not be able to take all 100VA off a single winding
[19:42:45] <Jymmm> 12-0-12 @ 100VA could be 24v@50va
[19:42:55] <robin_sz> no
[19:43:04] <alex_joni> Jymmm: not sure about toroidal
[19:43:07] <robin_sz> go and find out what VA are and then come back
[19:43:07] <alex_joni> might be better there
[19:43:24] <Jymmm> robin_sz dont be an ass.
[19:43:30] <alex_joni> robin_sz: only A, not VA
[19:43:53] <robin_sz> hes talking about A, I am talking about VA, he has no clue as to waht VA is ...
[19:44:20] <alex_joni> robin_sz: still.. no reason to treat him too harsh
[19:44:43] <robin_sz> I was OK, right to the poitn of being called an ass. ..
[19:45:08] <robin_sz> in a nutshell ...
[19:45:16] <alex_joni> 22:43 < robin_sz> go and find out what VA are and then come back
[19:45:16] <alex_joni> 22:43 < Jymmm> robin_sz dont be an ass.
[19:45:23] <robin_sz> a 100VA transformer will deliver ...
[19:45:24] <alex_joni> somehow I got them the other way around..
[19:46:09] <robin_sz> 1 amp at 100V ... or 50V at 2A or 25V at 4 amps ... (assuming you had tappings/windings for thos e voltages)
[19:46:31] <alex_joni> right, and the wires are usually the problem
[19:47:14] <jmkasunich> if you have a 100VA transformer with 2 12V secondaries, AND the secondaries are identical (probably are, but that is an assumption)
[19:47:14] <robin_sz> alex_joni, Jymmm is often happy to be harsh himself, so it comes back from time to time
[19:47:20] <jmkasunich> then each secondary is 50VA
[19:47:33] <robin_sz> possibly ...
[19:47:37] <jmkasunich> 50VA / 12V = ~4A per secondary
[19:47:47] <robin_sz> if the wire is thick enough you could pull it all from one secondary ...
[19:47:59] <jmkasunich> but in general its not
[19:48:11] <jmkasunich> you can parallel them tho, to get 12V at 8A
[19:48:16] <robin_sz> indeed.
[19:48:18] <jmkasunich> or series them for 24V at 4A
[19:48:30] <robin_sz> basically ... its the core size that sets the VA rating
[19:48:54] <jmkasunich> thats oversimplified
[19:49:19] <jmkasunich> huge core wound with undersized wire won't give you the VA you expect
[19:49:25] <jmkasunich> both copper and core set the rating
[19:49:29] <robin_sz> anyway ... the ads are not "misleading" ... 100VA is 100VA
[19:49:31] <robin_sz> true
[19:49:49] <jmkasunich> they're only misleading to those who don't understand what a VA is
[19:50:06] <robin_sz> I tink that is a the point :)
[19:50:27] <robin_sz> I wish I could type too :)
[19:50:37] <jmkasunich> those antek transformers are beefy
[19:50:52] <jmkasunich> 10 degrees C rise after an hour at full load
[19:51:09] <jmkasunich> I'm used to industrial scale transformers designed for 100C rise
[19:52:03] <robin_sz> yeah. same as steppers really ... designed to run hot
[19:52:42] <jmkasunich> I guess the plastic wrapping around the toroids limits the max temperature
[19:53:02] <robin_sz> can do ... most use polyester
[19:53:43] <jmkasunich> 12% voltage drop at full load, relatively high impedance
[19:53:55] <jmkasunich> but mostly inductive, not resistive, so not too much losses
[19:54:14] <robin_sz> the trick is to use enough between the primary and secondary to stop the wires getting in between each other and the insulation failing under thermal stress
[20:58:16] <A-L-P-H-A> back
[20:58:28] <A-L-P-H-A> made a hole in my power supply box, for the power outlet.
[20:58:30] <A-L-P-H-A> fun.
[21:00:20] <robin_sz> with a drill, a gas torch or a 12 guage?
[21:05:28] <jmkasunich> .50BMG?
[21:06:23] <K`zan> My kind of drill :-).
[21:06:37] <K`zan> Or, more appropriately, hole punch :-)
[21:07:35] <jmkasunich> ;-)
[21:07:47] <jmkasunich> I usually punch smaller holes
[21:08:17] <jmkasunich> .22, and sometimes .45
[21:08:37] <A-L-P-H-A> sheet metal nippers.
[21:08:48] <A-L-P-H-A> I'll photo it with my shit camera phone.
[21:08:50] <A-L-P-H-A> bbiab.
[21:09:50] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/docs/man/.cvsignore: all files in man9 are generated
[21:10:21] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/docs/src/motion/.cvsignore: files to ignore
[21:14:18] <A-L-P-H-A> wonder if linux will autodetect my razr
[21:14:49] <K`zan> In Canada you have to do it with (probably dull) nippers :-).
[21:14:58] <A-L-P-H-A> uhuh
[21:22:21] <tomp> hello
[21:25:23] <A-L-P-H-A> hi
[21:27:14] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... can't get bitpim to work with my phone
[21:27:15] <A-L-P-H-A> pooh
[21:27:53] <robin_sz> bitpim?
[21:27:55] <SWPadnos> howdy folks
[21:27:59] <jmkasunich> hi
[21:28:12] <A-L-P-H-A> bitpim is a sf project... works great in windows...
[21:28:24] <A-L-P-H-A> it's a syncing program, and filemanager for lots of cell phones.
[21:28:38] <SWPadnos> does it work with the Razr?
[21:28:45] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah, in windows it does.
[21:28:45] <jmkasunich> what part of "phone" needs a file manager?
[21:28:59] <jmkasunich> sheesh, modern technology....
[21:29:00] <A-L-P-H-A> jmkasunich: photos, mp3s, sound bites
[21:29:02] <SWPadnos> you can have 1000 contacts, don'tcha know ...
[21:29:06] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich is a luddite
[21:29:11] <SWPadnos> with multiple numbers per person
[21:29:13] <jmkasunich> phones are for making phone calls
[21:29:24] <SWPadnos> and remembering phone numbers
[21:32:15] <SWPadnos> cool. it does work with the V3c
[21:40:18] <tomp> anyone want to sell a breakout board for an STG II ?
[21:44:08] <A-L-P-H-A> :( well... the phone's detected.. but no go on getting the stuffoff.
[21:44:22] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos: ? how'd you get it to work??
[21:44:24] <A-L-P-H-A> bitpim?
[21:44:32] <A-L-P-H-A> you got a v3c as well??
[21:44:38] <SWPadnos> I just looked at the docs, I haven't tried it
[21:44:43] <A-L-P-H-A> oh...
[21:44:57] <A-L-P-H-A> well... it detects the phone, but doesn't actually work for me.
[21:45:01] <A-L-P-H-A> I can't get anything off of it
[21:45:38] <A-L-P-H-A> ooooooooh... it's reading something
[21:45:41] <A-L-P-H-A> it's READING!
[21:45:43] <A-L-P-H-A> it's ALIVE!
[21:45:50] <A-L-P-H-A> pretty damn ass slow though. :(
[21:45:55] <A-L-P-H-A> wonder why.
[21:46:20] <SWPadnos> usb sqrt(2)
[21:46:21] <A-L-P-H-A> I don't think it's fully functional with the v3c... but it does seem like it's getting my photos off my phone.
[21:46:43] <A-L-P-H-A> it's usb2... well my computer is, not sure about the razr...
[21:47:11] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos: here's something to help you out... http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quietearth.us%2Farticles%2F2006%2F09%2F11%2FUbuntu-Installing-bitpim&ei=4-EeRd-ABZLK-QHWyNGeDA&sig=__Osf44c7EM-DBaKBiDMe60brNsHI=&sig2=lcA0o14LcUNyt2ij7W4LuQ however there are typos in that document.
[21:48:09] <SWPadnos> cool - a desktop file
[21:48:43] <SWPadnos> I saw the other instructions in the bitpim help pages
[21:49:04] <SWPadnos> funny - quietearth.us
[21:49:07] <SWPadnos> good movie
[21:49:44] <A-L-P-H-A>
[21:50:29] <A-L-P-H-A>
[21:51:21] <SWPadnos> heh - those photos look kinda phone-ey ;)
[21:51:35] <A-L-P-H-A> It's the RAZR!
[21:51:44] <A-L-P-H-A> that's it... I'm going to buy a new cam on Monday.
[21:51:51] <A-L-P-H-A> I gave my good camera to my sister. :(
[21:52:01] <A-L-P-H-A> and been cameraless for a few months.
[21:52:02] <SWPadnos> bummer
[21:52:18] <SWPadnos> well, I've been surrounded by cameras for the last couple of days
[21:52:42] <A-L-P-H-A> she was dumb, and bought $750 in camera stuff at bestbuy... I told her to return it all... and i'll give her my stuff...
[21:52:45] <SWPadnos> from 640x480 crap to 39MP flash capture to 160MP scanning backs
[21:53:20] <A-L-P-H-A> someone did some cool scanner + pinhole camera stuff a while back.
[21:53:22] <A-L-P-H-A> that was COOL.
[21:53:31] <anonimasu> :)
[21:53:36] <A-L-P-H-A> each photo was something like 100-200 megs. if not more.
[21:54:08] <SWPadnos> I don't remember that
[21:54:34] <SWPadnos> but there was a cool scanner - I saw a guy laying on the table getting scanned one time I passed by :)
[21:55:26] <SWPadnos> I have a photo from this thing that's amazing. they scanned a Monet painting, then printed the image with a high end Epson printer
[21:55:48] <SWPadnos> you have to touch the print to see that it's not textured like the painting. it's amazing
[21:55:55] <SWPadnos> doubly amazing ;)
[22:00:09] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-demo-scanner-cam.html
[22:02:08] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/bin/.cvsignore: no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:17] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/configs/sim/axis.ini: no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:17] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/ (comp.g halcmd.c scope_rt.c): no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:17] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/motion.c: no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:17] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/hal/components/ (18 files): no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:18] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/hal/hal_lib.c: no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:20] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/hal/classicladder/module_rt.c: no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:22] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c: no-realtime on a branch
[22:02:24] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07nort_testing * 10emc2/src/ (Makefile configure configure.in): no-realtime on a branch
[22:04:37] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... to see a buddy play in a band... where they may actually suck... and drive 45 minutes to go there... where the food's expensive, umm... and no girls of my liking there... hmm... maybe I'll pass
[22:06:04] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos, oh yeah... if you are going to install bitpim, do an ls libtiff instead, and link that file, not the one he states.
[22:06:28] <SWPadnos> sure thing. thanks
[22:09:32] <A-L-P-H-A> I wonder is spinach safe to eat agan
[22:09:33] <A-L-P-H-A> again
[22:10:34] <alex_joni> again?
[22:10:55] <SWPadnos> just cook it if you're concerned
[22:11:20] <SWPadnos> sauteed spinach with garlic is quite yummy
[22:11:41] <SWPadnos> though much smaller than the same amount of raw spinach
[22:12:01] <cradek> mmm, saag
[22:12:08] <SWPadnos> yummy
[22:12:14] <SWPadnos> aloo saag, even
[22:12:21] <cradek> with or without paneer?
[22:12:25] <SWPadnos> either
[22:12:27] <cradek> (I say with)
[22:12:37] <Jymmm> alex_joni: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=52034&nfid=crss
[22:12:41] <SWPadnos> that's OK for you, but I usually eat it as a vegetable side dish
[22:14:36] <alex_joni> I see
[22:14:59] <A-L-P-H-A> alex_joni: again... there was a outbreak of ecoli or something from the dirty US.
[22:15:07] <alex_joni> A-L-P-H-A: just read that
[22:15:11] <A-L-P-H-A> alex_joni: sorry. :)
[22:15:18] <alex_joni> A-L-P-H-A: sorry to hear that
[22:15:24] <A-L-P-H-A> alex_joni: those dirty US people... selling dirty food.
[22:15:39] <A-L-P-H-A> mad cow, ecoli, salmonella...
[22:15:43] <SWPadnos> dirty organic food eaters - dying and all
[22:15:46] <A-L-P-H-A> those cave people.
[22:15:53] <SWPadnos> how dare they?!!!?
[22:15:58] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos: exactly.
[22:15:59] <alex_joni> :)
[22:16:15] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes back at watching SG-Atlantis
[22:16:21] <SWPadnos> I think they should be forced to destroy the environment and poison their children!
[22:16:30] <SWPadnos> oh wait, they're dead :(
[22:16:52] <A-L-P-H-A> so... I'm starving... just ordered a nice pizza. don't know how odd this will sound to you people... no tomatoe sauce, but bbq sauce, mushrooms, (real) grilled chicken slices, and ground sausages...
[22:17:03] <A-L-P-H-A> alex_joni: they don't die...
[22:17:10] <A-L-P-H-A> alex_joni: which eps?
[22:17:25] <alex_joni> 3x07 right now
[22:18:11] <A-L-P-H-A> 3x09 is out...
[22:18:24] <alex_joni> I have 3x10 too :)
[22:18:24] <A-L-P-H-A> downloaded the torrents right? :D
[22:18:31] <A-L-P-H-A> hang on...
[22:18:34] <alex_joni> who me?.. never ;)
[22:19:20] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah... I got S03E10
[22:28:32] <anonimasu> A-L-P-H-A: I want one
[22:37:57] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu: ?
[22:37:58] <A-L-P-H-A> huh
[22:38:04] <A-L-P-H-A> a slice of my pizza?
[22:38:40] <anonimasu> yeah
[22:38:41] <anonimasu> :)
[22:40:46] <A-L-P-H-A> I'd type more... but enjoying this pizza too much
[22:46:39] <K`zan> A-L-P-H-A: Sheez, I eat with one hand and type with the other...
[22:47:02] <K`zan> Time to go drill and tap the tool holders. bbl.
[22:48:26] <anonimasu> K`zan: nice :
[22:48:27] <anonimasu> :)
[22:48:55] <K`zan> WELL?!??!? ;-) LOL
[22:49:03] <K`zan> Off I go, bbl
[22:50:00] <A-L-P-H-A> pop from a can somehow tastes different than from a bottle.
[22:50:55] <A-L-P-H-A> K`zan:
[23:04:20] <anonimasu> hehe
[23:04:22] <anonimasu> yeah
[23:04:52] <A-L-P-H-A> looking for D-sub 25 parallel ports for my case... I only have one... need/want two.
[23:06:18] <SWPadnos> for your servo/stepper box?
[23:06:23] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah.
[23:06:31] <SWPadnos> does digi-key ship to Canada?
[23:06:36] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah.
[23:06:39] <A-L-P-H-A> looking on digikey.
[23:06:43] <SWPadnos> well, there you have it
[23:06:44] <A-L-P-H-A> they want like $12/each
[23:07:03] <SWPadnos> are you looking at the AMP mil-spec connectors?
[23:07:07] <A-L-P-H-A> nono.
[23:07:11] <A-L-P-H-A> I'll go photo it.
[23:07:22] <SWPadnos> I know what a parallel port looks like ;)
[23:07:41] <SWPadnos> AMP has mil-spec D-sub connectors of various flavors
[23:08:36] <A-L-P-H-A> d-sub 25 male, to a headerport.
[23:09:09] <SWPadnos> you mean a cable, with a panel-mount D-sub at one end?
[23:09:17] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah
[23:09:20] <SWPadnos> or a crimp-on panel mount D-sub connector?
[23:09:30] <SWPadnos> IDC, not crimp-on
[23:09:42] <A-L-P-H-A> don't know what a IDC is
[23:10:03] <Jymmm> * Jymmm does..... ewwwwwwwwwwww
[23:10:17] <Jymmm> think robbon cable
[23:10:21] <Jymmm> ribbon
[23:10:39] <A-L-P-H-A> I need to go delete old photos off my phone.
[23:10:49] <A-L-P-H-A> take's freak'n forever to read them all in bitpim
[23:15:55] <A-L-P-H-A> not bitpim won't connect to the phone proper
[23:21:30] <SWPadnos> argh. now I'm going to bed. good night all.
[23:21:36] <A-L-P-H-A> WHAT?
[23:21:37] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos: ?
[23:21:40] <anonimasu> hm
[23:21:40] <A-L-P-H-A> it's not even 8pm!
[23:21:42] <anonimasu> night swp
[23:21:56] <alex_joni> it's 1am in germany
[23:21:57] <SWPadnos> it's 1:22PM here
[23:21:59] <alex_joni> night SWPadnos
[23:22:02] <SWPadnos> err - 1:22 AM
[23:22:03] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu: something's wrong... or swampy's getting freaky with his wife, if it's this early.
[23:22:09] <alex_joni> 02:22 < SWPadnos> err - 1:22 AM
[23:22:17] <SWPadnos> I'm in Germany, you dolt ;)
[23:22:28] <SWPadnos> GMT +1
[23:22:33] <A-L-P-H-A> when did you go to Germany?
[23:22:35] <SWPadnos> or is it +2?
[23:22:39] <SWPadnos> a few days ago
[23:22:42] <alex_joni> +1
[23:22:42] <A-L-P-H-A> why?
[23:22:46] <A-L-P-H-A> it's German!
[23:23:01] <SWPadnos> for http://www.photokina-cologne.com/
[23:23:22] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos: cool... have fun.
[23:23:45] <SWPadnos> I am, except that I'm tired ;)
[23:23:47] <SWPadnos> night
[23:29:12] <A-L-P-H-A> the d-sub I want
[23:32:09] <anonimasu> db25?
[23:32:13] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah
[23:32:16] <anonimasu> hehe
[23:32:18] <A-L-P-H-A> looking for those cheap.
[23:32:31] <A-L-P-H-A> I stole that from an OLD (386 times...) IO card.
[23:33:21] <A-L-P-H-A> close... http://cgi.ebay.com/25-Pin-Female-DSUB-Ribbon-Connector-Black-Amp-IDC-DB25_W0QQitemZ3878783943QQihZ017QQcategoryZ58272QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem but I want male
[23:33:45] <anonimasu> oh..
[23:33:45] <anonimasu> heh
[23:33:48] <anonimasu> they are cheap
[23:33:48] <anonimasu> even new
[23:33:57] <anonimasu> i think 1$
[23:34:01] <A-L-P-H-A> not from digikey... they want like $8 each
[23:34:36] <anonimasu> :/
[23:37:28] <anonimasu> 2$ in elfa
[23:37:38] <A-L-P-H-A> elfa? what's elfa?
[23:38:23] <anonimasu> www.elfa.se
[23:41:57] <A-L-P-H-A> yikes... I'm in Canada... that ain't gonna work.
[23:42:05] <A-L-P-H-A> I can't even check my local sources...
[23:42:10] <A-L-P-H-A> I have three local places.
[23:42:16] <A-L-P-H-A> oh... there's radioshack as well...
[23:42:19] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm...
[23:43:07] <anonimasu> hehe
[23:43:10] <anonimasu> *yawns
[23:43:16] <anonimasu> * anonimasu feels like making parts
[23:45:06] <A-L-P-H-A> looking for premade ribbon cables.
[23:47:52] <anonimasu> hm..
[23:57:20] <A-L-P-H-A> sweet... found it locally, for $1.48/each... except there's a min order or $25. I think
[23:57:46] <anonimasu> :/
[23:58:09] <anonimasu> hm once I get home it's time to start toying with visualmill again