#emc | Logs for 2006-07-27

[00:26:56] <fenn> wheee
[01:09:21] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as Jymmmm
[01:41:06] <Jymmmm> Jymmmm is now known as Red70sShow
[01:41:06] <Red70sShow> Red70sShow is now known as Jymmmm
[02:07:43] <Jymmmm> Jymmmm is now known as Jymmm
[04:25:42] <tfmacz> _join #emc-devel
[05:31:36] <LawrenceG> hello Ted
[05:32:33] <LawrenceG> tfmacz: boink?
[05:48:15] <NickServ> This nickname is owned by someone else
[05:48:15] <NickServ> If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[05:48:47] <LawrenceG> hey Jymmm
[05:49:57] <Jymmm> how ya doin?
[05:50:14] <LawrenceG> not bad... enjoying the heat of the summer up here
[05:50:51] <Jymmm> it finally cooled down to 90 today,
[05:51:24] <Jymmm> ran the AC for 36hours straight
[05:52:16] <LawrenceG> yup... I finally broke down and turned on the a/c..... usually only needs to be on for a couple of weeks.... I already notice the evenings getting shorter and cooler
[05:54:18] <LawrenceG> well... I am off to bed.... see ya in about 12hours or so!
[05:54:53] <Jymmm> g'night
[05:55:12] <LawrenceG> * LawrenceG zzzzz............
[11:08:16] <lilo> [Global Notice] Hi all. Please check out the news on http://freenode.net/news.shtml .... contents: Tor access and cloak formats are changing.
[11:08:32] <lilo> [Global Notice] Thank you for using freenode, and have a great day!
[11:40:52] <Mess> Bonjour tous
[11:46:29] <A-L-P-H-A> sup?
[11:52:01] <Mess> not much you???
[11:52:20] <Mess> you feel better after a nap..??
[11:52:20] <A-L-P-H-A> working on some html code for a client.
[11:52:30] <A-L-P-H-A> I slept for 10 hours last time.
[11:52:35] <A-L-P-H-A> I still have yet to sleep today
[11:52:41] <A-L-P-H-A> then again, I did wake up at 4pm yesterday
[11:53:01] <Mess> wokin' on the nite shift... ; )
[11:55:28] <les_w> morning
[12:03:27] <Mess> good morning les
[12:15:36] <Lerneaen_Hydra> um, was it just me or was paul's post on the weblist trolly/flamy?
[12:17:22] <cradek> don't think it was just you
[12:17:45] <cradek> and he's already saying he won't provide what jeff wants (the scripts controlling compilation)
[12:17:52] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ... wtf?
[12:17:54] <cradek> so we'll have to wait and see how it goes.
[12:18:05] <Lerneaen_Hydra> that doesn't sound very nice
[12:18:16] <cradek> well, he's not very nice lately.
[12:19:10] <cradek> about the wiki comments: jepler has tried for a long time to help BDI users use AXIS; that's probably the posts paul's talking about
[12:20:22] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh dear.
[12:20:47] <Lerneaen_Hydra> lets just hope things don't get too messy
[12:20:47] <cradek> I have to get to work, bbl
[12:20:54] <cradek> oh they are :-)
[12:22:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ok, bye
[12:22:22] <Lerneaen_Hydra> eugh. more than we end-users see?
[12:22:42] <Lerneaen_Hydra> like the dev-list and internal stuff?
[12:28:49] <jepler> he removed several pages, including the one cached here:
[12:29:04] <jepler> and then copied his "wiki" to a different server and made it read-only, at least for me
[12:29:17] <jepler> what do you think -- "grubby defacement"?
[12:30:09] <jepler> cradek: don't miss where he says he'll have to choose the format he gives the diffs to me in
[12:39:55] <Lerneaen_Hydra> jepler: IIRC SWPadnos sent a link yesterday about the format, and why obfusticated is not acceptable
[12:40:01] <Lerneaen_Hydra> logger_aj: bookmark
[12:40:01] <Lerneaen_Hydra> See
[12:40:47] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/08/msg00412.html
[12:42:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> jepler: have things always been this... strained when it comes to things like this, or is this a recent development
[12:42:45] <Lerneaen_Hydra> and his comment "grubby defacement" really smacks of trolling/flameing
[12:45:09] <jepler> Lerneaen_Hydra: oh, the bad blood between me and paul goes back to the first time I asked him how to rebuild the bdi4 .deb packages for emc and axis
[12:45:44] <Lerneaen_Hydra> great...
[12:53:11] <jepler> I guess this was back in January, but it feels like years have passed.
[12:54:47] <Lerneaen_Hydra> sounds fun...
[12:55:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I can't say I'm envious of your current situation
[12:55:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> lets just hope things clear up
[12:56:02] <jepler> I guess I'm not too optimistic
[12:57:05] <Mess> dont let his nikkers in a knot be your problem
[12:57:35] <jepler> Mess: I don't lose any sleep over it
[13:00:48] <Mess> good to hear..
[13:02:57] <steves_logging> steves_logging is now known as steve_stallings
[13:03:32] <Lerneaen_Hydra> jepler: I'm sure you know what everyone else thinks of this
[13:11:03] <SWPadnos> hi folks
[13:11:19] <cradek> hi all
[13:14:43] <cradek> he's sure wrong that jepler (as a copyright holder who released his code under the GPL) has no right to demand the source because the board also can
[13:18:11] <SWPadnos> anyone can - all they have to do is download a BDI, and then they're a "user"
[13:18:25] <steve_stallings> Where were Paul's recent comments posted? I did not get anything on either the EMC or BDI lists.
[13:18:39] <cradek> steve_stallings: the emc-users list
[13:18:58] <cradek> it's been very slow lately
[13:19:04] <steve_stallings> OK, flakey list syndrome again...
[13:21:19] <rayh> Hi guys.
[13:21:35] <cradek> morning ray
[13:21:36] <SWPadnos> ho Rayh - long time no see
[13:21:59] <rayh> Hi steven.
[13:22:04] <rayh> phone brb
[13:23:21] <SWPadnos> that was a long conversation ;)
[13:23:41] <SWPadnos> just wait - I'll start getting phone calls in a minute
[13:31:46] <jepler> ugh, nothing on the web archive of the emc-users list since the 24th
[13:32:03] <SWPadnos> the 24th of what?
[13:32:19] <SWPadnos> it had stopped in March, last I recall
[13:32:34] <jepler> it has messages from July
[13:32:35] <SWPadnos> or maybe May
[13:32:42] <SWPadnos> ok, greatt - they're catching up :)
[13:36:08] <steve_stallings> Last message that I received by e-mail was from 5:30 PM on 25 July.
[13:36:54] <SWPadnos> I got Paul's message from yesterday morning sometime between 2AM today and now
[13:37:10] <SWPadnos> they're definitely a bit laggy
[14:18:51] <steve_stallings> steve_stallings is now known as steves_logging
[14:24:45] <A-L-P-H-A> how do I become affiliated?
[14:25:15] <cradek> ?
[14:25:26] <A-L-P-H-A> look at SWPadnos's affiliation, and mine.
[14:25:31] <SWPadnos> donate
[14:25:37] <A-L-P-H-A> Oh. :)
[14:25:43] <cradek> ah
[14:26:11] <A-L-P-H-A> so, cradek, and SWPadnos has donated.
[14:26:16] <A-L-P-H-A> pdpc? wha's that?
[14:26:17] <SWPadnos> apparently
[14:26:22] <cradek> what's the difference between sustaining and active?
[14:26:26] <SWPadnos> the hosts of freenode ...
[14:26:42] <SWPadnos> Peer Directed Project Center or some such
[14:27:00] <SWPadnos> the level of donation, I think
[14:27:36] <cradek> I don't remember what mine was except >0
[14:29:27] <SWPadnos> active = #32, sustaining = $64
[14:29:30] <SWPadnos> $32
[14:48:37] <cradek> heh, I'm pretty cheap then aren't I
[15:14:20] <etla> anyone know how to use crapahalic ( or something else to visualize HAL code ?)
[15:15:45] <fenn> halcmd show | python halgui.py
[15:15:57] <fenn> oops no that doesnt work
[15:16:07] <fenn> halcmd show > poop.hal; python halgui.py poop.hal
[15:17:26] <etla> thanks, I'll test that
[15:17:27] <fenn> there is a wiki page with not much on it
[15:17:32] <rayh> halshow might work from the menu of the gui
[15:17:37] <etla> is halgui.py in normal CVS ?
[15:18:01] <fenn> src/hal/utils/halgui/halgui.py
[15:20:03] <etla> hmm... so far it just hangs. maybe it's slow.
[15:20:42] <fenn> it does freeze on some layouts..
[15:21:23] <etla> maybe I'll try something simpler.
[15:23:22] <etla> still nothing. halgui is supposed to bring up a window with the pins/connections/components ?
[15:24:05] <etla> ok now it failed with an error message
[15:33:13] <^Eugenics> etla: How is your motor drivers working?
[15:34:05] <^Eugenics> uops, he's gone..
[17:57:04] <Mess> Hi all.. im back from lunch... ; )
[17:57:39] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 'lo
[17:58:27] <Mess> so who's having fun???
[18:00:36] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hmm, define fun
[18:01:40] <fenn> i'm having fun
[18:02:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh? doing?
[18:03:40] <fenn> eating food
[18:03:48] <fenn> chatting on irc
[18:03:57] <fenn> tormenting the dog
[18:05:58] <Lerneaen_Hydra> sounds like the best thing one can do
[18:06:23] <fenn> i think the mind control transmitter must be down for maintenance today
[18:06:58] <Mess> yeah.. thats it... :)
[18:07:50] <Mess> im on-site at a supplier's... hardly workin'
[18:08:06] <fenn> obviously
[18:08:37] <fenn> work is for chumps
[18:09:17] <Mess> well not really... its for Champs actually
[18:10:39] <fenn> the ability to do nothing is very powerful, but it must not be abused!
[18:14:06] <Mess> i used to work with my hands .. now i work with my fingers... i point and say YOU do that.. NOW..
[18:37:55] <Jymmm> * Jymmm points back to Mess
[18:38:22] <Jymmm> Mess guess which finger I'm pointing with? Go on, guess.
[18:38:50] <Jymmm> =)
[19:01:10] <Mess> i dont guess... i guess i know..
[19:02:24] <Mess> Les... the eclipse 500 got its certification today..
[19:03:38] <Mess> http://www.eclipseaviation.com/index.php?option=com_newsroom&task=viewpr&id=1086&Itemid=348
[20:14:12] <Mess> h all
[20:14:16] <Mess> hi
[20:15:38] <Jymmm> howdy
[20:26:11] <Mess> Very cool meeting this afternoon.... and the fact that the jet got certified today is cool too
[21:21:49] <linuxNewbie> linuxNewbie is now known as Mhel
[23:07:28] <danex> mess, how goes the work on the Mazaks?