#emc | Logs for 2006-07-07

[02:21:06] <jmkasunich> very quiet tonight...
[02:22:33] <SWPadnos> shhhhh - you'll wake the wabbits
[02:22:50] <fenn> not in my house.. got a couple hundred dirty punk drunks in da house
[02:23:14] <fenn> hmm i shouldnt say that - they're clean punk drunks
[02:23:15] <SWPadnos> oh. uh - yay, I guess
[02:24:06] <cradek> whee
[02:24:12] <cradek> * cradek does a little dance
[02:24:17] <cradek> X axis is done
[02:24:22] <jmkasunich> yay!
[02:24:24] <jmkasunich> photos?
[02:24:30] <SWPadnos> err - make a little love, get down tonight ??
[02:24:35] <cradek> I didn't actually do a little dance, it's just an expression
[02:24:43] <SWPadnos> phew
[02:24:54] <cradek> I'm not sure I've ever been excited enough to actually do a little dance.
[02:25:00] <SWPadnos> heh
[02:25:03] <cradek> kind of depressing, that
[02:25:19] <SWPadnos> even out at the bars/clubs, I don't do a little dance
[02:25:25] <SWPadnos> not that I go to those places often
[02:25:53] <cradek> my kind of bar is the one where you can sit at a table and eat pizza with friends, preferably at a time when the place is about empty
[02:25:54] <jmkasunich> SWP does a BIG dance
[02:26:23] <SWPadnos> I guess my kind of bar would be something you can feed into a lathe
[02:26:33] <cradek> I did plenty of that tonight
[02:26:34] <SWPadnos> yeah - I'm like devo on the dance floor
[02:26:45] <fenn> * fenn thinks swpadnos is a poseur
[02:27:05] <cradek> if I see a dance floor, it means I've accidentally gone in the wrong place
[02:27:41] <jmkasunich> heh, got that right
[02:27:43] <cradek> same as a salad/food bar with a guy slicing a roast on the end of it
[02:28:06] <SWPadnos> heh
[02:28:12] <SWPadnos> that I can get behind
[02:28:15] <SWPadnos> err - in front of
[02:28:30] <cradek> we have a place here called "old country buffet" but it's affectionately called "old people buffet" by the locals
[02:28:39] <SWPadnos> heh
[02:28:41] <fenn> do they really eat old people?
[02:28:45] <jmkasunich> yeah, those places are the same everywhere
[02:28:47] <SWPadnos> my wife designed their logo way back when
[02:28:50] <jmkasunich> Soylent Green!
[02:28:52] <cradek> not while I was there
[02:28:54] <SWPadnos> or their menu or something
[02:28:57] <fenn> soylent green is for old people!
[02:29:05] <cradek> SWPadnos: for the lincoln one? or is it a chain?
[02:29:09] <jmkasunich> soylent green is old people
[02:29:10] <SWPadnos> it's a chain
[02:29:15] <cradek> oh god
[02:29:17] <cradek> I had no idea
[02:29:32] <jmkasunich> that SG was old people? ;-)
[02:29:34] <fenn> yes, a continuous cycle of fat
[02:29:47] <fenn> ever see fight club?
[02:29:51] <cradek> sure
[02:30:50] <SWPadnos> is the Lincoln one at 2241 O street?
[02:31:04] <jepler> sure could be
[02:31:21] <SWPadnos> I think they've updated their logo
[02:31:34] <Jymmm> Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Golden Corral
[02:31:43] <cradek> ugh
[02:31:43] <SWPadnos> or maybe it wa sthe menu - I thought they used to have a brownish thing, with a cracker barrel or something
[02:32:01] <cradek> yeah 22nd & O is right
[02:32:14] <Jymmm> I just ate dinner and you guys are making me hungry!
[02:32:39] <SWPadnos> I just had some Dal and Mattar Paneer, plus Brie and crackers
[02:32:45] <SWPadnos> very nice
[02:32:55] <cradek> haha you can't eat dal and brie together
[02:33:03] <SWPadnos> I ate teh brie first
[02:33:05] <SWPadnos> the
[02:33:05] <asdfqwega> cradek: what X axis is done?
[02:33:14] <cradek> asdfqwega: my lathe conversion
[02:33:14] <SWPadnos> the unknown axis, X
[02:33:29] <Jymmm> indian food --> Dal and Mattar Paneer ???
[02:33:30] <asdfqwega> Way Boffo Keen-O Kewl
[02:33:34] <SWPadnos> yes
[02:33:48] <Jymmm> I've probably had it, but wouldn't have known
[02:33:50] <SWPadnos> brie == french, and the crackers were English
[02:34:03] <cradek> my indian friend taught me to cook some things, I was on a real indian food kick for a while, not so much now
[02:34:16] <SWPadnos> it's tasty stuff
[02:34:21] <SWPadnos> sometimes too tasty
[02:34:23] <cradek> that's good in the winter when there's not fresh vegetables everywhere
[02:34:30] <SWPadnos> and when it's cold
[02:34:34] <cradek> right
[02:34:38] <SWPadnos> outside - not the food
[02:34:52] <SWPadnos> hotels at Niagara falls are expensive as hell
[02:35:00] <SWPadnos> possibly more expensive than hell
[02:35:17] <jepler> I assumed the accomodations in hell were free
[02:35:29] <SWPadnos> hmmm - I'm sure there's a cost somewhere
[02:35:36] <cradek> theonion.com is having a 10 year recap, I forgot how good they used to be
[02:36:04] <SWPadnos> "Kodak and Polaroid apologize for a one-night merger"
[02:37:00] <cradek> ok I better take a photo of this for you guys
[02:37:05] <asdfqwega> * asdfqwega tries to build python-axis package...
[02:41:05] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/DSCN6290.JPG
[02:43:15] <jepler> now take another picture without so much cat-hair in it
[02:43:38] <cradek> ugh, I hadn't noticed
[02:43:53] <cradek> the fabric on the wrist wrest collects it
[02:44:14] <cradek> at least you can tell the keyboard isn't all brown and gross like some people's
[02:44:59] <jmkasunich> wow, the pulley flange just barely clears the motor
[02:45:04] <jmkasunich> was that planned or luck?
[02:45:16] <cradek> neither, it's the angle
[02:45:54] <cradek> there's > 1/16" of space there
[02:46:15] <jmkasunich> oh
[02:46:40] <cradek> the motor standoffs are male-female extensions like we talked about
[02:47:25] <cradek> I couldn't find long socket head set screws, so I screwed in a regular screw until it binds then cut the head off
[02:47:58] <jmkasunich> that works
[02:49:25] <cradek> the back of the pulley has a seat cut out for the front thrust bearing to hide inside
[02:49:28] <jepler> 'night
[02:49:32] <cradek> bye
[02:49:37] <jmkasunich> goodnight jeff
[02:49:50] <jmkasunich> how much end play did you wind up with?
[02:49:59] <cradek> none measurable
[02:50:11] <cradek> the leadnut has backlash though, maybe .05mm
[02:51:18] <cradek> but there's not much I can do about that right now I guess
[02:51:28] <cradek> maybe with servos I can actually use backlash comp in emc
[02:51:35] <jmkasunich> probably
[02:54:11] <cradek> I'm pleased how the motor screws ended up right in the center of their adjustment slots
[02:54:31] <cradek> it's nice when something comes out as expected
[02:54:37] <jmkasunich> yep
[02:59:42] <cradek> skunkworks: http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/DSCN6290.JPG
[03:13:56] <skunkworks> cradek: very nice. Any tuning yet?
[03:14:04] <cradek> no, I haven't even moved it
[03:14:29] <cradek> I'll have to do some wiring and come up with a proper power supply
[03:15:27] <skunkworks> I have been working on house stuff and my car. feel like I am out of the loop
[03:16:12] <cradek> there hasn't been too much going on here I guess
[03:16:58] <Jymmm> cradek: you makin a router?
[03:17:15] <cradek> no, converting one of my lathes
[03:17:23] <Jymmm> cradek ah, ok.
[03:17:59] <skunkworks> thats good - I think :)
[03:18:20] <cradek> it'll be good for emc I'm sure
[03:18:32] <cradek> because it won't have cranks anymore :-)
[03:18:48] <skunkworks> (I ment not missing much)
[03:18:58] <skunkworks> but yes that is good also
[03:19:56] <skunkworks> had to make some rear adjustabel control arms for my car - too much camber
[03:19:57] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/morecar/controlarms.JPG
[03:20:44] <cradek> very nice!
[03:21:00] <skunkworks> mostly just assembling ;) some lathe work
[03:21:04] <Jymmm> Other than a full sized router motor, can anyone think of a bit smaller spindle tha'll take a 3/8" bit ?
[03:22:01] <cradek> why did you have to replace alignment parts?
[03:22:29] <cradek> did you raise or lower the car or something?
[03:22:32] <Jymmm> Sorry skunkworks, I don't know enough to say "very nice", but I'll say it anyway... very nice! =)
[03:23:27] <cradek> * cradek only messes with his car when it breaks
[03:33:24] <skunkworks> the car is a 92 - the alignment place could not get the rear into spec - very common with these cars. (that have a cammed bolt that just doesn;t have enough movement. - so this is the fix
[03:35:10] <skunkworks> cradek - how did the milling of the adaptor plate go?
[03:35:25] <skunkworks> have you done stuff that big on your max?
[03:35:27] <skunkworks> thick
[03:56:07] <Jymmm> does anyone use a wirewrap gun?
[04:02:46] <skunkworks> not since college :)
[04:05:17] <Jymmm> do they automatically strip the wire?
[04:05:36] <skunkworks> I don't think the ones I used did.
[04:05:42] <Jymmm> k
[04:05:47] <Jymmm> thanks =)
[06:19:39] <Jymmm> hi alex, G'Night alex
[06:29:27] <alex_joni> morning & g'night
[11:57:22] <^Eugenics> Anyone know a good source of couplings? (I need 5/10mm)
[12:02:20] <alex_joni> I've used these before: http://www.ktr.com/katalog/EN/KTR_110.pdf
[12:02:28] <alex_joni> not sure if they are the right thing for you
[12:09:05] <^Eugenics> looks like a good solution. They come unbored I presume? Do you have any idea about the price?
[12:09:49] <alex_joni> I get mine already bored
[12:10:00] <alex_joni> for about 20-30 EUR
[12:10:08] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile:
[12:10:08] <CIA-8> automatically re-build configure from configure.in, and automatically re-run
[12:10:08] <CIA-8> configure when it has changed.
[12:10:10] <^Eugenics> Sounds perfect
[12:10:14] <alex_joni> but that's a fter 1-2 dealers, so directly might be lots cheaper
[12:10:30] <jepler> good morning guys
[12:10:36] <alex_joni> morning jeff
[12:10:47] <^Eugenics> eh, you do not order from ktr?
[12:11:09] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: no, I order from the robot manufacturer
[12:11:10] <^Eugenics> do you know if they can make the bore for me?
[12:11:29] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: I think you specify the hole diameter when you order
[12:11:46] <^Eugenics> I will mail them and find out
[12:11:54] <^Eugenics> thanks for the tip!
[12:12:15] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[12:12:19] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: where are you from?
[12:12:24] <alex_joni> jepler: oh-oh ;)
[12:12:34] <^Eugenics> btw, I got too tired of my old nick, chinamill
[12:12:43] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: ok then ;)
[12:12:49] <^Eugenics> :)
[12:13:14] <giacus> ^Eugenics: you french ?
[12:13:28] <^Eugenics> nope, swedish
[12:13:32] <giacus> ah ok
[12:13:33] <alex_joni> jepler: think you put a too high autoconf number in there
[12:13:35] <giacus> :)
[12:13:36] <jepler> alex_joni: I didn
[12:13:38] <jepler> 't put the number there
[12:13:43] <^Eugenics> giacus: but try to line in france
[12:13:45] <alex_joni> or, whoever put it
[12:13:55] <giacus> ^Eugenics: nice
[12:14:17] <alex_joni> jepler: no worries, that number has been changed at least a couple dozen times
[12:14:31] <^Eugenics> giacus: I promised you that I notify you if I changed my nic, so I did, I do not use chinamill anymore
[12:14:34] <jepler> I'll just revert that portion of the Makefile change
[12:15:10] <giacus> ^Eugenics: cool :)
[12:15:23] <alex_joni> jepler: ok, I figured out what you did now.. sorry ;)
[12:15:25] <giacus> I'll update it then
[12:15:31] <giacus> thank you
[12:16:04] <alex_joni> jepler: configure.in has some stuff in it, that needs a newer autoconf package than is available on BDI-TNG
[12:16:12] <^Eugenics> giacus: how was the live music you went to?
[12:16:24] <alex_joni> jepler: but if you generate ./configure on another machine, it works perfectly well
[12:16:55] <giacus> ^Eugenics: was cool the first 15 min., after that I don't remember what happen :(
[12:17:13] <giacus> too much drinks
[12:17:23] <jepler> alex_joni: the problem is that CVS may give configure.in a newer date than configure .. there's actually no reason to be regenerating the file on that machine, since the one in CVS is up to date.
[12:17:29] <alex_joni> giacus: keep off the booze
[12:17:37] <giacus> hehe
[12:17:42] <^Eugenics> giacus: ok, you probably had fun then
[12:18:10] <alex_joni> jepler: I think we're safe for now if we update it every time we touch configure.in
[12:18:38] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile: revert earlier change
[12:18:50] <giacus> ^Eugenics: I have to say its a funny time in these days, really, the only thing the weather is going to be bad
[12:19:03] <giacus> waiting rain for tomorrow/sunday
[12:19:07] <giacus> and storms
[12:19:17] <giacus> strange july
[12:19:24] <giacus> tropical weather
[12:19:32] <giacus> as never seen before
[12:19:54] <giacus> how is there ?
[12:21:09] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: I've also used these ones before: http://gb.desch.demo.x2-gmbh.de/index.php/171/DESCH-Hadeflex-Coupling/
[12:21:29] <^Eugenics> now it's fair, yesterday I went wavesurfing = quite windy
[12:21:48] <giacus> got few fantastic days, Italy team won on Germany, discovery on the space and Freedom fest in US
[12:22:10] <giacus> it couldnt be better until now
[12:22:21] <giacus> great 2006
[12:22:38] <giacus> better than how I was hoping
[12:22:54] <^Eugenics> did you get your couplings already bored from the dealer?
[12:23:08] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: usually yes
[12:23:34] <alex_joni> ^Eugenics: I've used another type too, but can't find the manufacturer
[12:23:50] <^Eugenics> do you have any idea of the cost?
[12:24:21] <alex_joni> this type: http://www.rinomechanical.com/images/Torqlink25C_gs_66.jpg
[12:25:21] <^Eugenics> do you have any clue wich one is the cheaper?
[12:25:31] <alex_joni> not really.. sorry
[12:36:55] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/iotask/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:37:00] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:37:00] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:37:00] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/classicladder/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:37:01] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/vcp/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:37:05] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:37:07] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/devices/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
[12:38:19] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build PASSED
[12:45:16] <alex_joni> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/photography/01152273021 <- if anyone likes flowers :D
[13:29:00] <giacus> aaaarrrggggghhhh !!!!
[13:29:16] <giacus> someone hacked my website
[13:29:25] <giacus> http://www.giacus.org/emcstats/emc.html
[13:33:57] <giacus> http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Extra/2006/Germania2006/articoli/pop_telecronache.shtml
[13:34:00] <giacus> :DD
[13:35:08] <giacus> you like the miss italia on the right side of the banner eh ?? :P
[13:35:09] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/halmodule.c: add experimental hal module
[13:35:09] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/scripts/haltest.py: add experimental hal module
[13:35:09] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/setup.py: add experimental hal module
[13:37:39] <giacus> she's Miss Italia 2006 :))
[13:38:18] <A-L-P-H-A> why do I get some random white guy as my picture?
[13:38:39] <SWPadnos> possibly because you haven't set up a photo yourself
[13:38:46] <SWPadnos> (same with me, and jmk, and ...)
[13:38:57] <giacus> A-L-P-H-A: you're Grosso !!
[13:38:58] <SWPadnos> I think cradek is the only one who has a custom photo :)
[13:39:04] <giacus> the striker
[13:39:09] <A-L-P-H-A> bah...
[13:39:12] <giacus> haha
[13:39:17] <giacus> reload the page
[13:39:30] <giacus> what browser are U using ?
[13:39:36] <A-L-P-H-A> firefox
[13:39:39] <giacus> bad cache I guess..
[13:39:40] <A-L-P-H-A> I hit ctrl-f5
[13:39:54] <A-L-P-H-A> I'm still that random whiteguy with the parted hair.
[13:39:58] <cradek> rayh is a lot younger than I remember
[13:40:05] <giacus> :))
[13:40:27] <giacus> A-L-P-H-A: try Dillo
[13:40:32] <cradek> and jmkasunich is older than I remember
[13:40:34] <giacus> hehe
[13:40:58] <SWPadnos> and you're cuter than I remember
[13:40:59] <jepler> I dunno, he's pretty old
[13:41:15] <giacus> the cracker who did that work jumped cradek : no reason I guess
[13:41:19] <cradek> SWPadnos: hmm you're right
[13:41:30] <giacus> skipped*
[13:41:54] <giacus> probably he liked the old pic :D
[13:41:59] <cradek> I think you should leave it, it's funny
[13:42:17] <giacus> haha
[13:42:43] <cradek> fenn always lets us know what he's doing: 28 actions!
[13:42:46] <giacus> lets sse what happen sunday ..
[13:42:49] <cradek> For example, like this:
[13:42:51] <cradek> * fenn blows chunks
[13:42:57] <giacus> lol
[13:43:00] <cradek> hahahaha
[13:43:08] <giacus> ;P
[13:44:29] <SWPadnos> I really needed to know that
[13:46:44] <giacus> SWPadnos: you are fabio cannavaro
[13:46:50] <giacus> not bad I'd say
[13:46:52] <giacus> :)
[13:47:05] <SWPadnos> well, I never thought I'd be a Fabio
[13:47:12] <giacus> best defender of the planet :D
[13:47:35] <giacus> the funny thing he will play on serie 'B' next year ..
[13:48:38] <giacus> one of the best defenders of the planet
[14:13:02] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/nc_files/useful-subroutines.ngc: the demo holes shouldn't overlap
[14:28:59] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/classicladder/Submakefile: fix incorrect rules using libemchal
[14:29:00] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/Submakefile: fix incorrect rules using libemchal
[14:29:04] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/Submakefile: fix incorrect rules using libemchal
[14:29:42] <A-L-P-H-A> <-- longer back logs.
[14:41:47] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/hal_lib.c:
[14:41:47] <CIA-8> since more than one component per userland process doesn't work (segfault after
[14:41:47] <CIA-8> the first one exits), diagnose this in hal_init() and return an error
[15:48:18] <A-L-P-H-A> hello K4ts
[15:48:40] <K4ts> hi A-L-P-H-A
[15:49:29] <robin_sz> shhh, sleeping
[15:49:54] <K4ts> ihih
[15:50:25] <K4ts> robin svegliaaaaaaaaa
[15:54:57] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz, WHAT WAS THAT?!?!
[15:55:04] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU?!?
[15:55:54] <giacus> wake up
[15:56:08] <giacus> I think is what she meant
[15:58:16] <giacus> K4ts: robin_sz should be at work right now !
[15:59:10] <giacus> K4ts: daughter ask me how to solve an issue
[15:59:38] <giacus> after a windoze upgrade, every 10 mins a msg apper:
[15:59:48] <giacus> this copy is not authentical
[16:00:03] <giacus> does anyone know how to remove it ? O_O
[16:00:17] <giacus> that was an optional update ..
[16:00:44] <giacus> it apper on login and after on a tray bar, she sayd
[16:01:01] <cradek> I know how to remove windows
[16:01:16] <cradek> authentic copy or not
[16:01:23] <giacus> I tried to explain her I'm not good doze user :(
[16:01:52] <giacus> btw, tried to help her by vnc
[16:01:56] <giacus> got no luck
[16:02:01] <SWPadnos> welcome to Microsoft Genuine Advantage
[16:02:25] <giacus> it sounds like a recent M$ update
[16:02:45] <SWPadnos> it is
[16:02:46] <jepler> SWPadnos: I don't understand -- what's the Advantage for me?
[16:03:05] <SWPadnos> well - WGA has been around for a while - it just got more annoying recently
[16:03:06] <giacus> I adviced K4ts to NOT updated her system !
[16:03:21] <A-L-P-H-A> sec giacus
[16:03:23] <jepler> right, I'm just asking what the Advantage is
[16:03:32] <SWPadnos> jepler, no, I think they're missing a couple of characters : microsoft's genuine advantage
[16:03:57] <SWPadnos> maybe only one char - no apostrophe :)
[16:03:59] <giacus> strange, it run in a tray bar ..
[16:04:42] <SWPadnos> that's one downfall of automatic updates - it allows an external party to run arbitrary code (at administrator privilege level) on your machine
[16:05:14] <giacus> tried to run msconf, but I don't know the process to kill
[16:05:29] <A-L-P-H-A> giacus. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914
[16:05:29] <giacus> or exclude from boot
[16:05:52] <A-L-P-H-A> jepler, you know as well as everyone else, there is no advantage.
[16:06:27] <giacus> A-L-P-H-A: doh !
[16:06:30] <giacus> thanks
[16:10:07] <A-L-P-H-A> np
[16:11:31] <Bo^Dick> is this a good idea for an adjustable current limiter? http://www.carmi.se/misterstarshine/img/2.gif
[16:12:32] <A-L-P-H-A> <-- is no E. engineer
[16:12:44] <A-L-P-H-A> <-- is professional meanie.
[16:39:07] <robin_sz> Bo^Dick, sort of ... but it depends on what you are trying to do ///
[16:39:55] <giacus> aaargh
[16:39:57] <robin_sz> for a start, its a linear regulator, so will be horribly inefficient in its current limited mode
[16:41:17] <giacus> nmap -sF -T insane d83-184-191-114.cust.tele2.it!!
[16:41:25] <giacus> hi robin_sz
[16:41:49] <giacus> got an attack from UK this afternoon
[16:42:05] <robin_sz> thats odd, we usually get them from italy ;)
[16:42:12] <giacus> someone from you're factory I guess ..
[16:42:15] <giacus> :DD
[16:42:24] <robin_sz> but, why worry, thats what firewalls are for
[16:42:36] <giacus> robin_sz: what's up ?!
[16:42:47] <giacus> cheers from K4ts
[16:43:19] <robin_sz> * robin_sz waits for his traditional english food to arrive for tea
[16:43:38] <giacus> tea of 5 o clock ?
[16:43:46] <giacus> hehe
[16:43:49] <giacus> cool
[16:44:20] <giacus> but we replaced tea with stong coffee
[16:44:36] <giacus> brasilian strong coffe :)
[16:44:55] <robin_sz> they make coffee in brazil?
[16:45:06] <giacus> we noticed nervous cnc machines works better with coffee
[16:45:09] <giacus> really
[16:45:26] <giacus> brasil have the better coffe of the world
[16:45:34] <robin_sz> I thought the brasillian national product was cocaine, not coffee
[16:45:39] <giacus> you didnt know it ?
[16:45:45] <giacus> nahhh
[16:45:51] <giacus> that was columbia
[16:45:55] <giacus> not brasil
[16:46:04] <SWPadnos> brazil nuts
[16:46:06] <giacus> robin_sz: you're uotdated ! :(
[16:46:18] <giacus> better cocaine comes from columbia
[16:46:22] <giacus> ecuador
[16:46:27] <giacus> venezuela
[16:46:41] <giacus> Brasil doesnt matter on that
[16:47:02] <giacus> didnt know that ? O_O
[16:47:28] <giacus> oh .. you should see Al Pacino Scarface then ..
[16:47:31] <robin_sz> I dont know much about brasil
[16:47:48] <robin_sz> its just a large country of deep valleys and flat plains and deserts and mud
[16:47:50] <giacus> well, brasil its a coool country really
[16:47:59] <giacus> I like Dominican Republic too
[16:48:12] <giacus> but its far away from my budget :(
[16:48:19] <giacus> maybe you can
[16:48:41] <giacus> center america
[16:48:51] <robin_sz> I think brasil is outside my budget ...
[16:48:59] <giacus> nahhh
[16:49:04] <robin_sz> maybe a I buy a smaller country first and trade it in later
[16:49:08] <giacus> you're like berlusconi yet !
[16:49:13] <giacus> you could ..
[16:49:18] <giacus> but you wont :(
[16:50:07] <giacus> robin_sz: going not cheap !
[16:50:19] <giacus> you have the power
[16:50:23] <giacus> :)
[16:51:31] <giacus> later
[16:52:02] <giacus> have to give 2-3 sound cards to a friend of mine ;)
[16:53:03] <robin_sz> that is something yhou dont see any more .. soundcards
[16:53:10] <robin_sz> now every PC has one built in
[16:53:17] <bill203> AdLib!
[17:18:31] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hi
[17:21:57] <Guest993> anyone knows how to configure emc2 for using with an smc800?
[17:22:12] <alex_joni> what's a smc800?
[17:22:58] <Guest993> it's an controller for stepping motors using parallel
[17:23:09] <alex_joni> do you have a link (URL) for it?
[17:23:31] <alex_joni> this one? http://engraving.majosoft.com/html/body_conrad_stepper_driver_smc800_and_smc1500.html
[17:24:28] <Guest993> yes
[17:24:48] <alex_joni> Guest993: I'm looking around conrad.de but can only find the smc1500
[17:25:00] <Lerneaen_Hydra> Guest993: shouldn't be that hard, to begin with you'd need the pin assignments
[17:25:01] <alex_joni> do you have any idea what the pinout for that card is?
[17:25:09] <alex_joni> or what signals it needs?
[17:25:51] <Lerneaen_Hydra> alex_joni: since it's either half or full step it's probably step/dir with a pin to toggle half/full (or maybe an onboard jumper)
[17:26:02] <alex_joni> found a manual now
[17:26:28] <Guest993> it seems that pin 2, clock signal x-motor, pin 3 direction signal x-motor, pin 4 clock signal y-motor, pin 5 direction signal y-motor, pin 6 clock signal z-motor and pin 7 direction signal z-motor
[17:27:18] <alex_joni> Guest993: are you from germany?
[17:27:26] <Guest993> no, from spain
[17:28:14] <alex_joni> oh. nice ;)
[17:28:36] <alex_joni> here's the manual I found: http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/950000-974999/967785-an-01-en-SMC_1500_Schrittmotor_Karte.pdf
[17:28:39] <Lerneaen_Hydra> clock would be the same as step?
[17:28:47] <alex_joni> yeah
[17:29:10] <alex_joni> but the manual mentions something else.. (that you need an supplimentary card to do that)
[17:30:08] <alex_joni> Guest993: do you have the extra card they mention?
[17:30:26] <alex_joni> it seems that without that card you can talk some protocol with the smc800
[17:30:32] <alex_joni> and tell it positions and such
[17:31:50] <Guest993> i only have the smc800, supplementary card i think it's the pcb. that card works with pcnc smc version
[17:33:40] <alex_joni> Guest993: I think emc can be adapted to work with this smc, but it's probably not a 5 minute hack. I don't quite understand the protocol from that manual. you could make it work with emc as it is, if you use the adapter board (although it doesn't say if the adapter works with 800 too, or only with the 1500)
[17:35:29] <alex_joni> "The additional PCB SMC1500Z (only possible to use with SMC1500) is for controlling the stepper motor card by clock and direction signal."
[17:36:00] <Guest993> it seems that at page 28 of the manual it's the protocol
[17:39:00] <alex_joni> that's a pinout, not a protocol
[17:39:21] <alex_joni> oh.. you meant the printed 28
[17:39:25] <alex_joni> yes, you are right
[17:39:41] <alex_joni> it seems like a terribly dumb protocol (you can only move one axis at a time)
[17:40:19] <alex_joni> and you need to alter the motor windings current
[17:41:49] <alex_joni> Guest993: I'm sorry to say, but I don't really think it's a good solution
[17:43:52] <Guest993> but, can be used with emc?
[17:44:23] <alex_joni> not as it is, a small driver needs to get written
[17:44:41] <alex_joni> but I expect it to be not really trivial
[17:45:25] <alex_joni> Guest993: did you already buy it?
[17:46:25] <Guest993> wait, i think i have some source code for controlling that machine. i bought the smc800 controller and the machine 2 year ago
[17:47:01] <alex_joni> if I were you I would replace the driver with simple L297/L298 drivers
[17:48:20] <alex_joni> for instance this one: http://www.pminmo.com/l297-8/l297-8.htm
[17:48:44] <Guest993> i have no money. do you want i send you source code for controlling that machine (but isn't tested)?
[17:49:44] <alex_joni> Guest993: unfortunately I can't promise I'll work on it..
[17:50:02] <alex_joni> have loads on my to-do list, and I'm leaving for a couple of weeks
[17:51:01] <Guest993> thanl you. i'm using web interface for using irc. can you give me some e-mail for sending you the source code?
[17:51:11] <alex_joni> alex.joni AT robcon.ro
[17:54:41] <Guest993> My name is diego
[17:54:57] <alex_joni> hello diego
[18:02:44] <alex_joni> morning Jymmm
[18:03:00] <Jymmm> hi alex
[18:03:19] <alex_joni> what's cookin'?
[18:04:08] <Jymmm> Under a time crunch to get these completed for the swapmeet tomorrow at 4am
[18:04:32] <alex_joni> sounds like a nice thing
[18:05:16] <Jymmm> LOTS TODO... still need to find/get a table, make order forms, finish these parts, etc, etc, etc.
[18:05:35] <Guest993> hello alex. because of using web interface i couldn't copy our conversation. Could you send me our conversation for saving it? It's important to me
[18:05:44] <alex_joni> logger_aj: bookmark
[18:05:44] <alex_joni> See
[18:05:54] <alex_joni> Guest993: you can see it there
[18:06:57] <Guest993> thank you
[18:07:03] <alex_joni> no problem
[18:07:37] <giacus> hello Jymmm!!
[18:07:46] <giacus> storms here
[18:08:03] <Jymmm> kaos here!
[18:08:12] <giacus> going for a pizza wanna come ? :P
[18:08:20] <alex_joni> Jymmm: then I won't bother you with pictures :D
[18:08:23] <giacus> why caos ? nahhhh
[18:08:24] <Jymmm> if you deliver, sure.
[18:08:38] <giacus> yeah, planning to go now
[18:11:41] <giacus> but storms and lightning
[18:13:23] <giacus> wow
[18:13:24] <giacus> 130 kw lightning!!
[18:13:24] <giacus> off ..
[18:13:25] <Jymmm> alex_joni Remind me in 24 hours. I doubt I'll sleep at all tonight.
[18:13:57] <alex_joni> :)
[18:17:19] <Guest993> goodbye
[18:17:30] <alex_joni> bye Guest993
[18:47:55] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm... why not sleep?
[18:47:58] <A-L-P-H-A> you are getting sleepy
[18:48:04] <A-L-P-H-A> you are getting very sleep... muahahhaha
[19:09:07] <A-L-P-H-A> hey mess
[19:12:36] <Jymmm> If I get sleepy, I might accidently hit my "bitchslap A-L-P-H-A" button!
[20:33:14] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/ (control.c mot_priv.h motion.c): added a motion-inpos pin to power down stepper drives, while not moving
[20:33:55] <Lerneaen_Hydra> alex_joni: ooh, nice
[20:34:06] <Lerneaen_Hydra> alex_joni: some timeout type thing?
[20:34:12] <alex_joni> not really
[20:34:18] <alex_joni> you can do the timeout with CL if you need
[20:35:09] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, ok. CL can do basically everything a PLC can, if only a bit slower?
[20:35:17] <alex_joni> not necessarely slower
[20:35:27] <Lerneaen_Hydra> CL is RT?
[20:35:30] <alex_joni> yes
[20:35:36] <alex_joni> only the GUI is not RT
[20:35:44] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, ok
[20:58:21] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc: provide easy access to joint position information
[21:14:03] <A-L-P-H-A> burning DVDs is so slow
[21:14:09] <A-L-P-H-A> reminds me of the early days of CDs.
[21:14:12] <A-L-P-H-A> 1x, 2x...
[21:14:13] <A-L-P-H-A> 4x...
[21:14:14] <A-L-P-H-A> :(
[21:14:59] <alex_joni> get a zippo
[21:15:12] <A-L-P-H-A> the lighters made in Canada?
[21:15:29] <A-L-P-H-A> alex_joni... you're not good at making smart alec remarks. :)
[21:22:06] <Lerneaen_Hydra> g'night all
[21:46:34] <asdfq-shop> jepler: New package not work.
[21:46:51] <alex_joni> asdfq-shop: what package?
[21:51:04] <alex_joni> asdfq-shop: what package?
[21:53:09] <asdfq-shop> Trying to build python-axis for BDI4
[21:53:32] <asdfq-shop> It built, but I've got an error when trying to run it
[21:55:22] <alex_joni> I suspect a pastebin of the results would be usefull
[21:55:53] <giacus> ah !
[21:55:56] <giacus> bad ..
[21:56:00] <giacus> really bad
[21:57:38] <giacus> should > I look at apache log ?
[21:57:54] <giacus> :))
[21:58:25] <giacus> french friends stay calms ..
[21:59:00] <giacus> dont hurt me please
[21:59:04] <giacus> :))
[22:01:18] <asdfq-shop> Gonna have to light the candles and draw up the chalk circle...time to do the "I hate Direcway" ritual
[22:01:40] <giacus> candle in the wind ?
[22:02:03] <giacus> miss Diana ?
[22:10:55] <asdfq-shop> Whee! One more time!
[22:11:07] <giacus> fucking
[22:11:32] <asdfq-shop> * asdfq-shop perks his ears at the magic word
[22:12:01] <giacus> ah!
[22:12:11] <giacus> asdfq-shop: bad
[22:13:25] <asdfq-shop> You said it, not me
[23:09:41] <robin_sz> http://www.porkolt.com/other/shocking/apache/gunship/attack/iraq/kill/war/footage-of-apache-gunship-taking-out-iraqis-795.html
[23:47:57] <Twingy> I may have a prerelease of gcam for testing sunday evening