#emc | Logs for 2006-06-22

[00:10:12] <giacus> it seems irc is kicking many peoples this evening
[00:12:58] <giacus> giacus is a very aggressive person. He attacked others 2 times.
[00:13:07] <giacus> jmkasunich can't control his aggressions, either. He picked on others 1 times.
[00:13:09] <giacus> lol
[00:14:40] <cradek> Dallur: that's great, thanks for closing it when you can
[00:26:03] <A-L-P-H-A> dmessier? am I going to get the drawings?
[00:39:34] <dmessier> 905 723 5086 i tink i have bruin' phone with batteries chargd... 3 phones suk... WHERE
[00:42:07] <dmessier> how's your friday looking..after 1:30pm
[00:42:45] <dmessier> lets just peeland brk... em...
[00:46:37] <Jymmm> * Jymmm doesn't want to know what dmessier just said.
[00:52:09] <giacus> Jymmm: what are you thinking ?
[00:52:24] <giacus> you familiar with armatures ?
[00:52:44] <giacus> The armature Object is the key Object of character animation. It is an object comprising several interconnected or not interconnected "bones". A series of interconnected bones is an "Inverse Kinematics (IK) Chain" or simply "Chain" of bones.
[00:53:22] <giacus> work exactly like a robot ?
[00:56:48] <giacus> yes, Bones can be moved as if they were a set of rigid, undeformable Objects with perfect joints
[00:57:28] <giacus> going to get tux 8 axis now ..
[01:01:11] <giacus> once you set up the bones and armature you can play with the model similar to a dolly
[01:01:19] <giacus> found a new toy :D
[01:04:12] <Dallur> okey I got a feature complete plasma config now for both Bob Campbells THC and CandCNC THC, it is still not fully tested but .. should I check this in under sample-configs ?
[01:04:50] <Dallur> Is there anyone else here asside from me and chinamill that is interested in testing this (and using) ?
[01:11:09] <giacus> I think many peoples are away right now, a post in the ML maybe could be better
[01:11:26] <Dallur> yup, I think I will post it in ML and sleep on it
[01:18:08] <Dallur> gnite
[01:20:52] <giacus> right, Goodnight all
[02:37:04] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as CodesWithIdiots
[02:39:45] <CodesWithIdiots> CodesWithIdiots is now known as Jymmm
[02:59:37] <Jymmm> gawd I love this lil saw!
[02:59:52] <Jymmm> scares the shit out of me, but still =)
[03:44:12] <A-L-P-H-A> I've got no clue what dmessier said either...
[03:54:32] <Jymmm> I dont think he does either =)
[03:54:45] <Jymmm> but...we just nod and go "uh huh"
[05:03:29] <Jymmm> Is it possible to have gcode run in a smei manual operation? I have some external num_pads that I'd like to use as a pseudo pendant, then setup the program to START the program, then get ready to run again on a keystroke from the num_pad.
[05:03:39] <Jymmm> s/smei/semi/
[05:04:56] <Jymmm> It's just drilling a coupe of holes, but clamoing the material in, running the program, unclamping, stick on a new piece, etc is too time consuming.
[05:09:07] <fenn> the mazak had a cycle_start button
[05:11:30] <Jymmm> yeah, something like that sounds about right.
[05:11:54] <fenn> it doesnt seem to be hooked up in the cvs .hal file, but i'm pretty sure it was working at fest
[05:55:39] <Jymmm> I'm not sure if that'll work with external num_pad though.
[06:24:36] <fenn> oh i see
[06:24:46] <Jymmm> =)
[06:24:52] <fenn> just start digging in axis/tkemc and re-map the keys
[06:25:10] <Jymmm> Sure, but remap WHAT, is the questions =)
[06:25:16] <Jymmm> -s
[06:25:27] <fenn> well, "home" would start your homing routine.. :{
[06:25:32] <fenn> blerf
[06:25:45] <Jymmm> I dont' wan tto home, I want to cycle =)
[06:26:03] <fenn> alright well get to work!
[06:27:47] <fenn> .menu.machine add command \
[06:27:47] <fenn> -accelerator R \
[06:27:47] <fenn> -command task_run
[06:27:47] <fenn> setup_menu_accel .menu.machine end [_ "_Run program"]
[06:27:53] <fenn> in axis.tcl
[06:28:18] <fenn> change R to your key - i dunno how to specify num pad keys
[06:31:15] <Jymmm> Yeah, it's kinda funky under AXIS. NUMPAD_9 iirc under mini
[06:31:30] <fenn> ah well there you go
[06:31:43] <Jymmm> and what REALLY sucks, is if you upgrade, your settings are gone
[06:32:15] <fenn> so make a patch
[06:32:35] <Jymmm> I don't know python
[06:32:41] <fenn> it doesnt matter
[06:32:45] <Jymmm> or bash for that matter =)
[06:32:58] <fenn> a patch file just applies your changes to the file as best it acn
[06:33:10] <fenn> so you upgrade, then patch it with your modifications
[06:33:29] <Jymmm> so, what is this "patch" written in?
[06:33:37] <fenn> unified diff format i think its called
[06:34:29] <fenn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff
[06:34:33] <Jymmm> Ok, lets save this conversation till I have emc2 running. right now I have bdi
[06:34:40] <fenn> oh jeeeez
[06:34:55] <fenn> i thought you were using turbocad :P
[06:35:05] <Jymmm> s/cad/cnc/
[06:35:06] <fenn> or whatever the fuck thats called
[06:35:17] <Jymmm> I have that too... tri-boot
[06:36:45] <Jymmm> you being an OS zealot?
[06:37:15] <Jymmm> I like DOS =)
[06:37:36] <fenn> no i'm a cnc control zealot
[06:37:59] <Jymmm> heh
[06:38:07] <fenn> ok i'll admit, i'm also an OS zealot
[06:39:27] <Jymmm> I use what works for me
[06:40:16] <Jymmm> Though, I do like Netware too =)
[06:40:25] <Jymmm> the accounting features are awesome!
[07:24:09] <A-L-P-H-A> netware... aren't they dead? Novel is Canadian... just wondering when they're dead.
[07:31:24] <Jymmm> lol, no they're are in Utah
[07:31:37] <Jymmm> and still going pretty strong
[07:38:18] <fenn> hmm puredata is pretty cool.. it's like hal sorta but designed for music
[07:38:42] <fenn> well, shouldnt say designed for music.. it could be adapted to a lot of things
[08:02:04] <A-L-P-H-A> novel was originally a CDN company
[08:02:25] <A-L-P-H-A> oh
[08:02:26] <A-L-P-H-A> they weren't.
[08:03:17] <A-L-P-H-A> OHHHH!!! I'm thinking Corel!
[08:04:03] <A-L-P-H-A> I drowned a nasty looking bug.
[08:04:38] <A-L-P-H-A> it fell into a water pitcher, and I decided to fill the pitcher with some water...
[08:04:56] <A-L-P-H-A> added some soap... thinking it would thin the water tension enough for it to drown fast...
[08:04:57] <A-L-P-H-A> nope.
[08:07:50] <anonimasu> hello
[08:08:45] <anonimasu> A-L-P-H-A: cruek
[08:08:46] <anonimasu> l
[08:08:46] <anonimasu> :)
[08:11:09] <A-L-P-H-A> ?
[08:11:26] <A-L-P-H-A> cruel. I see.
[08:11:31] <A-L-P-H-A> maybe... but it was an ugly bug.
[08:11:38] <A-L-P-H-A> maybe about 3cm long...
[08:11:58] <A-L-P-H-A> 7 or 8 mm wide at the abdomin... and a tinny 1.5mm head.
[08:12:18] <A-L-P-H-A> ugly... I would take a photo of it... but I gave my 3mp camera to my sister.
[08:12:25] <A-L-P-H-A> want to buy a pentax A10 camera.
[08:19:14] <anonimasu> :)
[08:19:38] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10071900&catid=24255
[09:22:58] <fogl> hello
[09:24:11] <fogl> can you tell me what is the difference between velocity and acceleration parameters in [traj] section of .ini file and velocity ecceleration in [axis] section
[09:36:45] <fenn> [axis] only applies to one axis, for example if your Z moves up and down slowly X and Y won't be affected
[09:36:57] <fenn> [traj] applies to all of them at once
[09:49:58] <fogl> so what if i set the velocity in traj section to 200 and in axis section to 500....what will be the velocity then?
[09:51:37] <fenn> 200
[09:52:22] <fenn> but, say you have a velocity of 100 in X and 100 in Y and 200 in traj, the max velocity will be 141.4 or so
[10:00:24] <fogl> ok, so traj sets the actual tool velocity, so what if i use two pairs of independant axis...than i should set the traj for every pair of axis, how?
[11:50:18] <jepler> fogl: I'm not sure why you'd set it lower than sqrt(sum of squares of axis speeds). G1 is a "coordinated move", so all moving axes will be, say, 10% along the move at the same moment
[12:32:51] <giacus> morning
[12:41:21] <Bo^Dick> i've tried to connect this current limiter which comes from the LM317 datasheet. http://www.carmi.se/misterstarshine/img/2.gif
[12:43:10] <Bo^Dick> i've got the following values: R1=3.3 ohms, R2=200 ohms, IDSS=5mA, Vin=18 volts, Vss=-10 volts
[12:43:24] <Bo^Dick> could someone tell me why i cant go below 82mA?
[12:44:50] <jepler> I looked at the schematic but I don't feel I understand the principle it works on.
[12:45:23] <Bo^Dick> it's a simple circuit but yet so advanced
[12:46:30] <jepler> clearly
[12:47:25] <Bo^Dick> the schematic is completed with a couple of confusing equations too
[12:48:31] <jepler> indeed
[12:49:24] <Bo^Dick> so right now i'm dependant on an analouge electronics hardass
[13:02:26] <Jymmm> Mr LEs!!!
[13:02:44] <les_w> hey jymmm
[13:03:24] <les_w> just taking a breakfast from the machine shop
[13:03:37] <les_w> breakfast break that is
[13:03:48] <Jymmm> Sounds good to me, only 6am here.
[13:03:58] <Jymmm> been up since 0430
[13:04:09] <Jymmm> went to bed at 0200
[13:04:18] <les_w> I got up that early yesterday and was at work at 5
[13:04:31] <les_w> today I got up at 6.
[13:04:58] <les_w> I don't sleep as much with the long summer days
[13:05:12] <les_w> and yesterday was the longest
[13:05:39] <Jymmm> Hey, you have any other hints or tips on a light pipe? Just sanding the surface isn't giving me enough diffusion sometimes.
[13:05:46] <les_w> not as dramatic as up north though
[13:06:05] <Jymmm> oh that's right... The longest day of the year.
[13:06:19] <les_w> I make little microrides sometimes
[13:06:27] <les_w> ridges
[13:06:37] <Jymmm> Like REALLY REALLY REALLY small toy cars =)
[13:06:47] <Jymmm> =)
[13:06:50] <Jymmm> couldn't resist
[13:06:58] <bullzebub> hello
[13:07:03] <Jymmm> like sawtooth or like squarewave?
[13:07:13] <les_w> hi bullzebub
[13:07:16] <bullzebub> can i ask a REALLY n00bish question?
[13:07:18] <cradek> hi
[13:07:30] <les_w> sawtooth
[13:07:31] <Jymmm> bullzebub can we laugh about it?
[13:07:45] <bullzebub> Jymmm : Sure! :-)
[13:07:47] <Jymmm> go for it!! =)
[13:07:49] <cradek> only Jymmm will laugh, and you can safely ignore him
[13:08:05] <bullzebub> how do i save a file in nano?!
[13:08:32] <cradek> looks like it's called "WriteOut" inexplicably
[13:08:36] <bullzebub> * bullzebub laugh at bullzebub
[13:09:00] <cradek> see the help at the bottom of the window? The ^ means Control
[13:09:05] <Jymmm> * Jymmm laughs at cradek for GP
[13:09:06] <cradek> so control-O saves
[13:09:13] <cradek> control-X exits
[13:09:15] <les_w> jymmm....
[13:09:17] <les_w> http://www.britastro.org/iandi/manning2.htm
[13:09:17] <bullzebub> thnx
[13:09:26] <Jymmm> les_w Yes Sir?
[13:09:37] <Jymmm> oh, looking...
[13:10:41] <les_w> you don't need lines that fine, but it can be done
[13:11:42] <Jymmm> les_w: One of the big factors is that I'm having to use extruded acrylic for this one piece
[13:11:51] <les_w> servo controlled 15,000 lines per inch
[13:12:45] <bullzebub> Whohoo! i sucseeded in compiling and installing fluxbox!
[13:12:58] <les_w> you could try things like sand and bead blasting too
[13:13:18] <Jymmm> les_w Oh, I found out something interesting... If you laser etch extruded acrylic, then hit it with denatured alcohol the thing micro fractures like crazy =)
[13:15:33] <Jymmm> les_w: I picked up a bench grinder the other day, working on turn one of the wheel sinto a disc sander.
[13:15:45] <anonimasu> :)
[13:17:35] <Jymmm> anonimasu: whatcha smilin bout?
[13:17:46] <anonimasu> I got my spindle motor :)
[13:17:58] <anonimasu> and couplings
[13:18:06] <anonimasu> for the ballscrews
[13:18:32] <Jymmm> anonimasu let me guess... 9.6V cordless drill =)
[13:19:07] <anonimasu> a 3cm3 huydralic motor
[13:19:26] <anonimasu> or well 3cc..
[13:19:27] <anonimasu> ;)
[13:19:53] <Jymmm> Yeah, but does it do Margaritas is the quesiton
[13:20:02] <Jymmm> =)
[13:20:06] <anonimasu> :D
[13:20:15] <anonimasu> nope, but it'll give me 4kw at the spindle
[13:20:23] <anonimasu> weighing 0.3kg..
[13:20:36] <Jymmm> not too shabby at all =)
[13:20:39] <anonimasu> yep
[13:20:46] <anonimasu> that's at 5600rpm
[13:21:27] <anonimasu> making a slide system for the Z axis.. as a test
[13:21:49] <anonimasu> going to order THK slides once the spindle is there and have been tested
[13:22:03] <Jymmm> any reason THK?
[13:22:16] <Jymmm> or do you mean "THK like"
[13:22:30] <anonimasu> no, because my dealer stocks thk slides
[13:22:40] <Jymmm> Ah, ok.
[13:22:41] <anonimasu> and the other slides had a 4 week deliery
[13:22:54] <anonimasu> isel slides.. that is
[13:23:00] <anonimasu> :)
[13:23:48] <Jymmm> There's another brand, imports that are on my machine and Les orders from too.
[13:24:11] <Jymmm> but you sound like your in a hurry anyway =)
[13:25:17] <anonimasu> Jymmm: how long has it been since I started talking about a machine ;)
[13:25:27] <anonimasu> I feel like being all talk ;)
[13:25:44] <Jymmm> 1740
[13:25:55] <Jymmm> AD
[13:26:10] <Jymmm> honestly , I really don't know.
[13:26:37] <anonimasu> it's about a year ago
[13:27:09] <Jymmm> Ah, but you have parts now, kinda speeds up things a bit
[13:27:37] <anonimasu> well, as my body is better now that it's summer I can spend more time machining