#emc | Logs for 2006-05-19

[00:06:07] <skunkworks> skunkworks is now known as skkwrk_galesburg
[00:33:55] <dmessier> bonsoir tous
[00:52:12] <giacus> hello dmessier
[01:04:15] <giacus> night
[03:40:20] <CIA-8> 03rayh 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/demo_mazak.ini: changed from demo_mazak.nml to emc.nml (new naming convention already used by all the other configs)
[03:44:50] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/ (demo_mazak.tbl demo_mazak.var): added var and tbl files to config
[04:41:39] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/classicladder/files.c:
[04:41:39] <CIA-8> use a proper temporary directory for saving the files. always remove it and its contents when done
[04:41:39] <CIA-8> using them.
[04:55:46] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/halui.cc: halui jogwheel
[04:56:28] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/weighted_sum.c: This component computes a weighted sum, based on bit pin inputs and weighting parameters
[04:58:55] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/scripts/axis.py: guard live plotter one more time
[05:00:04] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/ (Makefile Makefile.inc.in): Make the weighted summer component build
[05:08:08] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/sim/test.vcp: Added an LED widget to hal_vcp
[05:08:08] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/vcp/ (vcp.h vcp_main.c vcp_widgets.c): Added an LED widget to hal_vcp
[05:11:17] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/halui.cc: zero out counts so a jog isn't issued right away
[05:35:47] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/demo_mazak.hal:
[05:35:47] <CIA-8> Added weighted sum conponent load, and connected magazine position inputs to it.
[05:35:47] <CIA-8> Added output signal "magazine-position" with the result
[06:20:11] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/weighted_sum.c: Added additional error check: don't load if no bit counts are specified
[06:29:12] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/demo_mazak.hal: Connect wsum hold bit to the magazine-in-position input (will probably need to be inverted)
[06:31:44] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/demo_mazak.hal: fix typo
[10:12:08] <st4ts`_> st4ts`_ is now known as st4ts`
[10:27:53] <giacus`> giacus` is now known as giacus
[10:29:40] <alex_joni> morning giacus
[10:30:24] <giacus> hi alex_joni
[10:31:26] <chinamill> Hello guys
[10:31:34] <alex_joni> hi chinamill
[10:31:54] <chinamill> alex_joni: The frenchi did not yet show up?
[10:32:02] <alex_joni> nope
[10:38:27] <giacus> hi chinamill
[11:06:04] <giacus`> giacus` is now known as giacus
[12:27:31] <les_w> morning
[12:27:58] <les_w> how is workshop going?
[12:28:39] <les_w> oh...it's 7:30 out there.... all asleep!
[12:31:01] <giacus> hello captain :)
[12:31:32] <giacus> nice afternoon here, sun and strong wind
[12:31:36] <giacus> K roger :P
[12:33:14] <giacus> cq cq dx, cq dx
[12:36:03] <skkwrk_galesburg> hey les how is it going?
[12:36:09] <skkwrk_galesburg> morning giacus
[12:36:39] <giacus> morning skkwrk_galesburg
[12:39:19] <les_w> aw getting ready for big deal teleconference with chicago
[12:39:22] <les_w> ...again
[12:40:27] <skkwrk_galesburg> I hear they like flashy led pannels :)
[12:40:34] <les_w> haha
[12:41:03] <les_w> yeah so the president of finishing systems has a gadget
[12:41:21] <skkwrk_galesburg> how may watts are you up to?
[12:41:28] <anonimas1> lol
[12:41:33] <anonimas1> anonimas1 is now known as anonimasu
[12:41:34] <les_w> I fear they will ask for a "manhattan project on the thing"
[12:41:47] <les_w> 2.5, 5.2 VA
[12:41:58] <anonimasu> hm, weapon?
[12:42:17] <les_w> ha
[12:42:43] <les_w> if they piss me off it will be
[12:43:06] <les_w> I'll come up there and throw the gadget at them and hit them on the head
[12:43:59] <anonimasu> * anonimasu is crammed up with devel work now
[12:45:38] <les_w> you too huh
[12:45:49] <les_w> devil work?
[12:47:13] <anonimasu> yeah
[12:47:14] <anonimasu> hehe
[12:47:27] <anonimasu> writing a production version of my code
[12:50:08] <les_w> I am going to ask for a $41,000 Agilent real time impedance analyzer
[12:50:11] <les_w> buy or rent
[13:07:27] <anonimasu> rent one
[13:07:35] <anonimasu> or have them buy you one
[13:07:36] <anonimasu> :)
[14:12:16] <jepler> les_w: workshop has been going well. there have been a lot of little things fixed or improved in emc2
[14:12:43] <jepler> les_w: we created new g-codes to support edm, but the guy with the edm machine broke it so we haven't tested it yet.
[14:12:55] <alex_joni> :-/
[14:13:11] <anonimasu> hey
[14:13:16] <anonimasu> hehe
[14:13:26] <anonimasu> hopefully you'll get around to testing it
[14:13:43] <anonimasu> jepler: will you be supporting a / axis on wire edm's?
[14:13:49] <anonimasu> later on ;)
[14:14:05] <jepler> les_w: the mazak is being worked on, now emc2 can display the numeric tool slot, as a step towards tool changing on it.
[14:14:29] <alex_joni> jepler: up to the gui?
[14:14:56] <jepler> anonimasu: 4 linear axes is already doable, but you have to call them XYZA, not XYUV, in your g-code
[14:15:02] <jepler> (well, doable, but untested)
[14:15:41] <jepler> alex_joni: it was just being displayed in halmeter, I think
[14:15:54] <alex_joni> jepler: ok, from there it's a small step
[14:16:09] <alex_joni> iocontrol should already have it all (untested ;)
[14:16:27] <jepler> the next step is a HAL component to output +, -, or 0 and some ladder logic to go to the next desired slot in the best direction
[14:16:42] <jepler> well, that's the next step that SWPadnos was doing
[14:16:55] <alex_joni> cool, tell him to bug me about that part of the code
[14:17:41] <jepler> I'm sure he won't hesitate to ask
[14:18:24] <alex_joni> asking is easy.. bugging the right one is harder ;)
[14:18:39] <jepler> in AXIS, we've worked on a "lathe mode" which mostly disables a bunch of stuff and has a different preset view
[14:18:52] <alex_joni> I've seen the CIA messages.. nice
[14:19:11] <alex_joni> do you see the stock?
[14:19:51] <jepler> some guys with a software package called "onecnc" were interested in supporting emc with their software, so we pointed them at the g-code section of the user manual
[14:20:21] <alex_joni> right
[14:20:22] <jepler> no, it doesn't show the stock
[14:20:31] <alex_joni> jepler: that would be nice.. one day ;)
[14:21:23] <jepler> several people have been asking for axis to show the stock and do material removal
[14:21:27] <jepler> next time I have a week free maybe I'll look at it
[14:21:30] <jepler> but that has to be a lot of work
[14:21:53] <jepler> anyway I need to get ready for breakfast.
[14:21:56] <alex_joni> sure sounds like that
[14:22:02] <alex_joni> enjoy breakfast & catch you later
[14:22:06] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes preparing
[15:01:17] <jepler> I hate converting arc formats frm one system to another
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[16:52:12] <giacus`> uhmm seems a bad day for freenode
[17:03:46] <giacus`> giacus` is now known as giacus
[17:15:05] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hi
[17:38:46] <Lerneaen_Hydra> not alot of activity here today is there?
[17:38:57] <jmkasunich> lots actually
[17:39:11] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh? I must have just joined at a bad time
[17:39:26] <bill203> Zzzz
[17:39:30] <jmkasunich> oh, wrong "here", sorry
[17:39:42] <jmkasunich> lots of activity here at the CNC workshop
[17:39:53] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, yes that I can understand
[17:40:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> what was the webcam lin?
[17:40:23] <Lerneaen_Hydra> *link
[17:40:28] <jmkasunich> its down
[17:40:41] <jmkasunich> I never managed to get it to work on the little computer
[17:40:44] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, that's too bad. overloaded?
[17:40:46] <Lerneaen_Hydra> ok
[17:40:58] <jmkasunich> and the big computer that it works on isn't in the room where most of the activity is
[18:05:47] <les_w> hey jmk
[18:14:59] <giacus> hello
[18:16:49] <giacus> jmkasunich: the interpeter msg "Bug code not g43 or g49" mean it was expecting one of these 2 command(g43-g49) and received another instead?
[18:22:39] <jepler> giacus: yes
[18:22:51] <jepler> (or maybe it received no other code)
[18:23:03] <giacus> ty
[18:24:39] <jmkasunich> I don't know what that means
[18:24:58] <jmkasunich> the ones that start with "Bug" are internal errors, that hopefully a user will never see
[18:25:14] <jmkasunich> only an interpreter expert would know what that means
[18:25:25] <jmkasunich> (and I'm not an interpreter expert)
[18:25:33] <giacus> np, thanks
[18:25:46] <jmkasunich> are you getting that message? or are you doing translation?
[18:26:47] <giacus> just attempting to translate
[18:27:10] <LawrenceG> hi jmkasunich how are all the festicles behaving? Everybody having a good time?
[18:27:16] <giacus> it's all clean for me, except that ..
[18:27:17] <jmkasunich> I would leave those in english - if a user sees them he should report it to the developers, and the developers will have to figure it out
[18:27:42] <giacus> jmkasunich: you're right.. all should be in english
[18:28:03] <giacus> but there are pot and po for the i18n
[18:28:17] <giacus> I think expert peoples can use english
[18:28:30] <giacus> who not, can use his how language and
[18:28:43] <giacus> change language in console: LANGUAGE=
[18:28:45] <giacus> right ?
[18:29:02] <giacus> otherwise we should stop to translate enything :(
[18:29:45] <giacus> at least, I'm expeting peoples know how to change language in linux ..
[18:30:13] <giacus> I don think they want to post in a ML 30 lines of italian errors :P
[18:30:37] <giacus> but this is my opinion ..
[18:31:31] <giacus> it could happen too
[18:32:12] <giacus> I spent few hours to translate it :(
[18:32:35] <giacus> LawrenceG: was you a CB ?
[18:33:31] <giacus> upload an album this afternoon http://www.giacus.org/photo/hobby/1iro447/index.html
[18:33:40] <giacus> was what before internet :P
[18:34:04] <giacus> what was
[18:34:52] <giacus> that are just few, I've thousand here ..
[18:35:15] <giacus> was really funny
[18:35:54] <giacus> * giacus is a bit nostalgic ..
[18:38:51] <giacus> this is cool http://www.giacus.org/photo/hobby/1iro447/img035.jpeg.html Indonesia :)
[18:40:04] <LawrenceG> giacus: hi... I did use CB in the early 70's, then I got my ham radio license and I am still plying with radios
[18:41:31] <giacus> check your QSL from Italy :D
[18:41:42] <giacus> you could find the mine hahaha
[18:42:07] <giacus> It was 1989 ..
[18:42:26] <giacus> I did about 32 countries
[18:42:50] <giacus> thousand of postcard from any place of italy :/
[18:43:35] <giacus> the coolest one is the Faroe Island
[18:44:12] <LawrenceG> Italy is a long way from here.... most of the USA and Canada and all of the Atlantic is between us.
[18:44:34] <giacus> I was using a president jackson
[18:44:54] <giacus> but with linear amplifier and H antenna (yagi)
[18:44:58] <giacus> 4 elements
[18:45:18] <giacus> was around 100 W I guess
[18:46:56] <giacus> I had lot of issue with TV interferences all around here ..
[18:47:28] <giacus> no one was able to watch the tv on the evening LOL
[18:47:56] <giacus> nobody*
[18:49:59] <giacus> 73-51 .. dinner :)
[18:54:33] <dmessier> hello all
[18:57:21] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hello dmessier, cradek
[18:57:28] <cradek> hi
[19:00:13] <dmessier> hello..
[19:00:48] <dmessier> anyone have any thoughts on the puppy version of emc2???>>
[19:02:04] <dmessier> i'd like to know how realisti it would be to plug it into fanuc hardware??
[19:15:31] <alex_joni> dmessier: what hardware is that?
[19:16:44] <dmessier> fanuc drives... and servo amps...
[19:16:58] <dmessier> i wanna replace the fanuc BRAIN
[19:17:18] <SWPadnos> easy, there are two steps:
[19:17:34] <dmessier> rip... & replace...
[19:17:39] <SWPadnos> 1) get an analog board (I'm assuming their drives are analog), and write a driver for it
[19:17:57] <SWPadnos> 2) write a new interpreter that perfectly emulated fanuc G-code ;)
[19:17:59] <dmessier> digital drives
[19:17:59] <alex_joni> or get one of the existing
[19:18:02] <SWPadnos> emulates
[19:18:19] <alex_joni> digital makes it a bit harder.. what protocol?
[19:18:31] <dmessier> why should i need to emulate fanuc??
[19:18:39] <alex_joni> IF you want to replace it
[19:19:46] <SWPadnos> right - if you still want it to act like a fanuc, you need some interpreter changes
[19:19:53] <dmessier> the servo drve are hooked to amps... the amps accept step / dir.. signals... why cant emc sent the straight there...
[19:20:07] <alex_joni> step/dir ??
[19:20:14] <dmessier> basics..
[19:20:16] <alex_joni> what kind of fanuc is that??
[19:20:59] <dmessier> its a 10t
[19:21:54] <dmessier> but there is a nice lookin m/c with a 6m and steppers... out of a high school.. 2200 hrs.. 1988
[19:42:47] <K4ts> hello
[19:46:08] <K4ts> giacus
[19:46:43] <K4ts> hi alex_joni
[19:46:45] <alex_joni> hi K4ts
[19:54:05] <giacus> hello
[19:54:12] <giacus> K4ts: http://loituma.antyx.net/loituma.swf :D
[19:54:47] <giacus> nice eh ?
[19:55:42] <K4ts> http://www.paesionline.it/catalogo_viaggi_sicilia/piraino_villaggio_club_calanovellamare.asp
[19:56:07] <K4ts> alex_joni: look
[19:56:57] <alex_joni> K4ts: looking
[19:57:13] <K4ts> price for appartments
[19:57:34] <K4ts> end for day
[19:57:50] <giacus> uhm
[19:58:14] <giacus> K4ts: what about antonietta depliants ?
[19:58:16] <alex_joni> too many stars ;)
[19:58:29] <K4ts> yes
[19:58:37] <K4ts> is two folgi
[19:58:40] <giacus> K4ts: we already googled a bi ..t
[19:58:48] <giacus> le hai prese ?
[19:58:51] <K4ts> si
[19:58:59] <giacus> ok..
[19:59:12] <giacus> lets go to acquire them
[19:59:19] <giacus> with the scanner
[19:59:28] <K4ts> non si vede bene con scanner
[19:59:28] <giacus> do you know how to do ?
[19:59:31] <K4ts> ho provato
[19:59:46] <giacus> missed setting ..
[19:59:53] <K4ts> cmq i prezzi di uno sono quelli che sono sul sito
[19:59:54] <giacus> wait
[20:00:02] <giacus> uhm
[20:20:50] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/demo_mazak.hal: fix polarity of magazine position calculator 'hold' pin
[20:34:54] <les_w> afternoon all
[20:34:58] <les_w> or evening
[20:35:01] <cradek> hi les
[20:35:12] <les_w> how's workshop?
[20:35:19] <cradek> nice
[20:35:37] <cradek> we've accomplished a few things, and also a lot of people are leaving excited about emc2
[20:35:40] <les_w> things went ok here
[20:35:44] <les_w> ok meeting
[20:35:56] <les_w> but my grass is dying
[20:36:15] <les_w> a wekk of dry 30 kt plus winds
[20:36:27] <les_w> I've never seen anything like it
[20:37:02] <les_w> how much time is left for the workshop?
[20:37:16] <cradek> through saturday or sunday, not sure when we'll wrap up
[20:37:40] <cradek> it's pretty wet here...
[20:38:13] <les_w> that persistent cut off low pressure is one of the weirdest things I have ever seen
[20:41:01] <les_w> I kinda pushed more for RT linux factory automation at the meeting
[20:41:07] <les_w> i.e. HAL
[20:41:28] <les_w> didn't seem to meet any resistance
[20:43:21] <les_w> FFT complex autospectra...some pattern recognition stuff....lasers....PID with lots of special feedforward
[20:47:23] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc:
[20:47:23] <CIA-8> Disabled Hardware limit checks inside Task.
[20:47:23] <CIA-8> These tests take place in the motion controller
[20:47:23] <CIA-8> - in RealTime,
[20:47:23] <CIA-8> - and they take the possibility of homing against hardware switches into consideration
[20:47:23] <CIA-8> If the removed code isn't really needed (from the initial tests it's not),
[20:47:25] <CIA-8> then it should get removed for good.
[21:02:14] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/ (tester.hal tester.vcp): initial commit of a 'test panel' for the mazak - displays lots of status info
[21:08:53] <K4ts> hi les
[21:09:04] <les_w> hi anna!
[21:23:44] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/ (Makefile Makefile.inc.in):
[21:23:44] <CIA-8> Add "modmath" component.
[21:23:44] <CIA-8> This may eventually have several modulo arithmetic functions, but there's only one now
[21:23:44] <CIA-8> The function is "mod_dir" - this determines the shortest path from a "current position" to
[21:23:44] <CIA-8> a "desired position", and outputs bits for up, down, or on target.
[21:23:44] <CIA-8> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/modmath.c:
[21:23:48] <CIA-8> Add "modmath" component.
[21:23:50] <CIA-8> This may eventually have several modulo arithmetic functions, but there's only one now
[21:23:52] <CIA-8> The function is "mod_dir" - this determines the shortest path from a "current position" to
[21:23:54] <CIA-8> a "desired position", and outputs bits for up, down, or on target.
[22:26:42] <anonimasu> hello
[22:27:23] <Jymmm> hi anonimasu
[22:31:25] <alex_joni> hello
[23:00:46] <fenn-fest> http://fenn.freeshell.org/retrofest/SUNP0026.JPG http://fenn.freeshell.org/retrofest/SUNP0024.JPG
[23:11:19] <alex_joni> what's that fenn?
[23:13:58] <fenn-fest> that's the mazak's first test part
[23:14:02] <fenn-fest> heres an action ship
[23:14:13] <fenn-fest> shot even.. http://fenn.freeshell.org/retrofest/SUNP0028.JPG
[23:14:32] <fenn-fest> i took some movies but the camera didnt save them (maybe because i dont kow how to use it)
[23:17:18] <alex_joni> if jeff around?
[23:18:16] <alex_joni> damn, just had a power glitch (seems the whole city had it)
[23:18:20] <alex_joni> only <1sec
[23:59:58] <giacus> hello fenn-fest