#emc | Logs for 2006-05-16

[00:01:08] <dmessier> Tonyp...i'd need to see the electrolosys setup....but i like the military prospects already
[00:06:47] <dmessier> i can see how the hybrid would work...
[00:07:02] <dmessier> sweet
[00:08:01] <dmessier> the right pc timing gas vs hydrogen burn... reminicent of appallo
[00:08:31] <Jymmm> http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/05/12/mythbusters-exploding-pants-finale/
[00:08:58] <Jymmm> that's the episode... is does generate hydrogen gas, just doens't do shit for the car.
[00:09:12] <Jymmm> till they grab a tanke of hydrogen gas
[00:09:30] <dmessier> and pipe her in..
[00:10:13] <Jymmm> the used cooking oil worked the best!
[00:10:34] <Jymmm> 36MPG diesel, 33MPG used cooking oil
[00:11:08] <giacus> G'night all
[00:13:29] <dmessier> enviro diesel... is good... french fry oil a little detergents... and giver'
[00:14:23] <Jymmm> Nope, just filtered the used cooking oil thru a coffee filter like thing to remove the solds, and tossed it in, and it ran
[00:14:40] <Jymmm> Now, I have seen where it does MUCH better if heated to 100 F
[00:14:44] <dmessier> my propane is still quite drivable... but its time to start the retro fits.. ; )
[00:15:10] <Jymmm> I'd buy a lil diesel pickup just for that... free fuel!
[00:15:32] <dmessier> likewise...
[00:15:58] <dmessier> 4 cyl perlins diesel...
[00:16:02] <Jymmm> Hell, I'll even setup a hose, pump, storage tanks and filtering system in the back (or underneith)
[00:16:07] <dmessier> perkins
[00:16:34] <Jymmm> I bet something like a pool filter might work
[00:17:00] <dmessier> ive been dreamin of a hydrostatic system... 1 pump controler...
[00:17:19] <dmessier> 4 motors.... @ the wheels..
[00:17:34] <Jymmm> There's a million deep fryers in america... I'd go biodiesel as we know it works
[00:18:37] <dmessier> but is AS it drawbacks... ; ( solid waste..
[00:19:07] <Jymmm> What the solids? Toss em in the garbage... just icky frecnh fries
[00:19:10] <dmessier> same as diesel..
[00:19:35] <Jymmm> or do you mean out the tailpipe
[00:19:46] <Jymmm> which is it damnit! speak up!!!
[00:19:49] <Jymmm> =)
[00:19:55] <dmessier> if ALL the cars on the planet WERE diesel... WE'de be buried in 50 ft of ash
[00:20:27] <Jymmm> Nah, our shit mostly comes from processing plants
[00:20:39] <Jymmm> cars just dont help the matter any.
[00:20:41] <dmessier> it leaveas a solid ash as a BEST burned residue...
[00:21:15] <dmessier> ever been to a tractorr pull...??
[00:21:16] <Jymmm> Hey, if I dont have to pay $3.50/gallon, use it for asphalt roads
[00:21:27] <Jymmm> or some other such thing
[00:21:45] <dmessier> them machines are working WELL...
[00:22:03] <dmessier> and SPEWW solid waste....
[00:22:58] <dmessier> i feel the pain... but electric is best... im working n free electric power this week... ; )
[03:44:53] <A-L-P-H-A> shibby... gas is that expensive in the states?
[03:45:31] <jmkasunich> close to $3
[03:48:16] <skunkworks> jmk - how did the first day go?
[03:48:29] <jmkasunich> busy
[03:48:31] <jmkasunich> still going
[03:49:15] <skunkworks> Good. I think :)
[04:09:37] <skunkworks> night
[04:10:10] <jepler> goodnight skunkworks
[04:10:26] <skunkworks> you guys don't play too hard :)
[05:57:11] <alex_joni> morning
[05:59:00] <jepler> hi alex
[06:01:50] <alex_joni> still busy at fest?
[06:02:19] <jepler> I'm back at the hotel but still working on emc2
[06:02:30] <alex_joni> oh.. feed-override?
[06:02:30] <jepler> after this checkin (which will break all the systems using the parallel port) I'll go to sleep
[06:02:34] <jepler> nope, something else
[06:02:44] <alex_joni> care to share what?
[06:02:58] <jepler> oh, the commit message will explain it more thoroughly than I'm inclined to
[06:03:04] <alex_joni> damn, the screen is blury :D
[06:03:23] <jepler> it's something jon elson mentioned earlier, about the hard-to-debug problem of other software talking to the parallel port while emc is too
[06:03:25] <alex_joni> ok, I'll read it later..
[06:05:04] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c: (log message trimmed)
[06:05:04] <CIA-8> demonstrate using request_region() / release_region(), documented as working on 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels by
[06:05:04] <CIA-8> http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ch02.html
[06:05:04] <CIA-8> This will probably need to be changed/reorganized or even deferred for now,
[06:05:04] <CIA-8> but it shows how to use the linux request_region() / release_region()
[06:05:04] <CIA-8> to make sure that the parport is not also being used by something else---e.g.,
[06:05:09] <CIA-8> the linux 'parport' driver.
[06:05:21] <jepler> (read the full commit message if you want)
[06:05:54] <jepler> though this doesn't actually help jon elson because it only applies to hal_parport, not hal_ppmc or whatever it's called.
[06:05:57] <jepler> goodnight
[06:06:15] <alex_joni> goodnight
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[06:51:34] <alex_joni> A-L-P-H-A: ?
[06:51:44] <alex_joni> anything you wanna change?
[06:52:57] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/ (demo_mazak.hal demo_mazak.ini): changed old iocontrol pin names to match current code
[06:54:53] <A-L-P-H-A> ?
[06:54:57] <A-L-P-H-A> oops
[06:54:59] <A-L-P-H-A> no
[06:55:05] <A-L-P-H-A> I doubled clicked by accident in mirc
[06:55:20] <Jymmm> lol
[06:55:35] <alex_joni> ;)
[06:57:55] <cradek> hey, get to bed
[06:57:56] <Jymmm> jmkasunich What like 2am there?
[06:58:08] <cradek> yes
[06:58:10] <jmkasunich> I'm about to leave
[06:58:19] <jmkasunich> cradek: who is worse
[06:58:21] <Jymmm> You part animals you!
[06:58:22] <cradek> jmkasunich: I see jepler's new bug was assigned to you, not me
[06:58:46] <cradek> so yay
[06:58:51] <jmkasunich> the guy who leaves, but gets to the hotel and logs back in, or the guy who is still here, but will actually go to sleep when getting to the hotel?
[06:59:06] <jmkasunich> the guy who leaves, but gets to the hotel and logs back in, or the guy who is still here, but will actually go to sleep when getting to the hotel?
[06:59:07] <cradek> we're just differently crazy
[06:59:13] <cradek> we're just differently crazy
[06:59:25] <jmkasunich> first time only part of it appeared here
[06:59:48] <cradek> it's not often I talk to alex in his morning
[07:00:21] <jmkasunich> what bug was assigned to me?
[07:00:50] <alex_joni> heh.. same here
[07:00:51] <cradek> a new one, feed override being lost after a following error?
[07:00:57] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: some feed override problem
[07:01:15] <jmkasunich> I wonder why I didn't get a mail?
[07:01:21] <alex_joni> I sure did
[07:01:27] <cradek> maybe you will in a bit
[07:01:31] <jmkasunich> then it must be assigned to you!
[07:01:52] <alex_joni> right, cradek should do it :D
[07:02:07] <alex_joni> http://loituma.antyx.net/loituma.swf
[07:02:12] <alex_joni> something for the late night :D
[07:03:05] <cradek> so why is she swinging a scallion?
[07:03:41] <cradek> you find the strangest things
[07:07:11] <jmkasunich> apparently changing etc/hostname alone isn't enough to change the name of an ubuntu box
[07:08:13] <alex_joni> cradek: still there?
[07:08:46] <alex_joni> I got an error on my last commit:
[07:08:54] <alex_joni> Checking in hal_parport.c;
[07:08:54] <alex_joni> /cvs/emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c,v <-- hal_parport.c
[07:08:54] <alex_joni> new revision: 1.15; previous revision: 1.14
[07:08:54] <alex_joni> cvs [commit aborted]: could not open lock file `/cvs/emc2/src/hal/drivers/,hal_parport.c,': Permission denied
[07:09:04] <cradek> yuck
[07:09:46] <alex_joni> probably nothing for this late at nite
[07:09:58] <alex_joni> or this early (for others) ;-)
[07:11:25] <cradek> huh, I don't see anything wrong
[07:12:23] <alex_joni> odd
[07:12:29] <cradek> try again?
[07:13:28] <alex_joni> same thing
[07:13:29] <cradek> duh, I bet you have an anon checkout
[07:13:36] <alex_joni> I mean DUH
[07:13:41] <cradek> hahaha
[07:13:49] <alex_joni> sorry.. it's too early :/
[07:13:56] <alex_joni> and this isn't my machine
[07:14:10] <cradek> that took less than 5 minutes to figure out, but only barely less
[07:17:51] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c: fixed the thing jepler meant, now it shuts down cleanly if the requested region is not available
[07:18:11] <cradek> cool
[07:18:23] <alex_joni> one-liner
[07:19:17] <cradek> best kind
[07:23:08] <jmkasunich> still get a compile warning from parport
[07:23:22] <alex_joni> really? what kind? and on what system?
[07:23:25] <jmkasunich> /home/jmkasunich/emc2head/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c: In function `init_module':
[07:23:25] <jmkasunich> /home/jmkasunich/emc2head/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c:306: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
[07:23:28] <jmkasunich> ubuntu
[07:23:43] <alex_joni> odd, I didn't see that one
[07:24:26] <jmkasunich> I'm going to bed
[07:24:34] <alex_joni> ok, good night
[07:40:55] <CIA-8> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c: return useful error code because it's shown right to the user
[09:16:34] <les_w> good morning
[09:38:44] <anonimasu> morning les
[11:30:16] <les_w> bleh I'm tired...working too hard....I think I may need to hire an engineer.
[11:31:01] <les_w> Or at least get a business partner
[11:32:00] <les_w> today though....Some TRACTOR SEAT time!!
[11:32:36] <les_w> some car detailing too
[11:34:11] <les_w> I have to discuss some manufacturing methods for this stuff....and I am planning and will discuss using a real time Linux based system.
[11:35:40] <les_w> It's not cnc...It's high speed trim to frequency of a fifth order device.
[11:37:14] <alex_joni> les_w: in order to relax you should listen to loituma
[11:37:25] <les_w> what is that?
[11:37:28] <alex_joni> http://loituma.antyx.net/loituma.swf
[11:37:32] <alex_joni> try it ;)
[11:37:34] <les_w> looking
[11:37:51] <anonimasu> it rocks
[11:37:55] <anonimasu> the song's better though
[11:38:02] <alex_joni> anonimasu: got it?
[11:38:06] <anonimasu> yeah
[11:38:13] <anonimasu> on the comp back home
[11:38:15] <alex_joni> dcc it to me PLEASE
[11:38:21] <alex_joni> when you're home ;)
[11:38:26] <anonimasu> sure
[11:38:35] <anonimasu> I think somone posted it here yesterday
[11:39:50] <anonimasu> http://files.ww.com/getfile.html/14040/393222742/Loituma%20-%20Leva's%20Polka%20(bbm%20remix).mp3
[11:39:56] <les_w> ha
[11:40:03] <les_w> listening now...
[11:40:28] <les_w> what is that? Romainian?
[11:40:34] <alex_joni> les_w: finnish
[11:40:34] <anonimasu> bleh
[11:40:36] <anonimasu> crap
[11:40:38] <anonimasu> wrong file
[11:40:42] <alex_joni> If I can read that right..
[11:40:42] <les_w> ah
[11:40:58] <anonimasu> logger_aj: bookmark
[11:40:58] <anonimasu> See
[11:41:31] <anonimasu> http://loituma.antyx.net/
[11:41:36] <anonimasu> there you have the real song
[11:42:03] <alex_joni> Full audio?
[11:42:21] <anonimasu> yeah
[11:42:35] <alex_joni> coo
[11:42:55] <anonimasu> the images is from a anime series called bleach if you'r curious*usless knowing'
[11:43:25] <les_w> yeah I had already found the real performance
[11:45:34] <les_w> I need to find a tree stump grinder to get the shop enlargement going
[11:45:45] <les_w> about 1.2 meter diam oak
[12:02:04] <alex_joni> what's a good GTK designer software?
[13:07:35] <les_w> hi sam.
[13:25:29] <skunkworks> morning les
[13:27:33] <skunkworks> is the finger burner a go?
[16:48:43] <giacus> hello
[16:49:00] <giacus> here's my robo-toy http://www.giacus.org/en/robots.html
[16:49:14] <giacus> I tried to translate the page in english.. :(
[16:49:37] <bill203> good morning giacus.
[16:49:44] <giacus> hi bill203
[16:50:04] <bill203> did you build that robot?
[16:50:16] <bill203> from scratch?
[16:50:20] <giacus> i'm working on it
[16:50:22] <giacus> nah ..
[16:50:34] <giacus> just buyng parts
[16:50:46] <giacus> I'm not an engineer :P
[16:51:20] <giacus> dunno how much terms I missed there ..
[16:52:28] <bill203> I see a few mis-spellings, if you'd like me to point them out.
[16:52:58] <giacus> yes, thanks, where ?
[16:53:24] <bill203> just one actually 'tipical' should be 'typical'
[16:53:34] <giacus> ok
[16:55:05] <bill203> that looks like a fun project.
[16:55:35] <giacus> probably, done for 50%
[16:57:46] <giacus> espandible or expandible ?
[16:58:02] <giacus> mean the same thing ?
[16:58:11] <bill203> expandible means you can add to it.
[16:58:32] <giacus> so, espandible is probably wrong ..
[16:58:45] <bill203> yeah
[17:00:03] <giacus> corrected..
[17:02:02] <giacus> and replaced evoulution with evolution
[17:02:35] <giacus> ouch momements .. lol
[19:01:02] <anonimasu> hm
[19:01:18] <anonimasu> alex_joni: there?
[19:18:22] <LawrenceG> time to wake up the headless guy on festcam... he has been standing there since last night :}
[19:18:32] <LawrenceG> http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
[19:21:53] <LawrenceG> key Jymmm whats up?
[19:22:02] <Jymmm> EMC Cam awefully dark... wonder if they are all passed out still =)
[19:22:12] <Jymmm> LawrenceG Hey, whats happening
[19:22:22] <LawrenceG> yea same pix as last night... headless man
[19:22:41] <Jymmm> lol
[19:23:17] <LawrenceG> wish it wasnt so far away... would be fun to meet all the guys
[19:23:31] <giacus> :-)
[19:23:37] <giacus> evening
[19:23:38] <Jymmm> =)
[19:23:40] <LawrenceG> 4 days drive
[19:24:13] <giacus> LawrenceG: 8 hours flyng ..
[19:24:41] <LawrenceG> not bad I would guess 4hours flying from here
[19:25:24] <LawrenceG> I am not sure what closest major center is... Chicago?
[19:27:08] <giacus> maybe.. no clue
[19:27:30] <giacus> EUG would be nice ..
[19:27:40] <jepler> yeah chicago is 150 or 200 miles from here
[19:28:21] <LawrenceG> that would not be too bad... United flys from here to there
[19:28:22] <giacus> hey jepler :)
[19:29:04] <giacus> jepler: I think EUG's would be ok
[19:30:02] <giacus> not ?
[19:32:49] <giacus> well, Emc User Groups ..
[19:33:01] <giacus> a fest in US another in EU and so on
[19:33:32] <giacus> could I drive your machine 8k km away from here ? :P
[19:34:03] <anonimasu> hm, I cant wait for a eu fest :)
[19:34:20] <alex_joni> anonimasu: now
[19:34:30] <anonimasu> alex_joni: ?
[19:34:40] <alex_joni> 22:04 < anonimasu> alex_joni: there?
[19:34:46] <giacus> hi alex_joni, anonimasu
[19:34:52] <alex_joni> hi giacus
[19:34:53] <anonimasu> ah
[19:55:39] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/motion.h: changed to motion.h for adaptive feedrate - new emcmot command to turn it on and off, new status variable to show its value. Committed to define the interface between high and low level code.
[20:03:04] <alex_joni> g'night all
[20:04:42] <giacus> G'night alex_joni
[20:12:12] <Jymmm> hey SWPadnos, you made it!!!
[20:13:03] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/motion.h: added one more item to motion status structure
[20:16:21] <SWPadnos> uh - yeah. finally
[20:16:28] <Jymmm> =)
[20:18:01] <giacus> SWPadnos: why dou did it ?
[20:18:16] <giacus> you
[21:31:47] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/ (Submakefile hal_skeleton.c):
[21:31:47] <CIA-8> remove the userspace portion of hal_skeleton. perhaps it should be resurrected
[21:31:47] <CIA-8> as user_comps/hal_skeleton.
[21:41:42] <jmkasunich> matt?
[21:43:01] <jshaver> yes
[21:43:20] <jmkasunich> getting ready to travel?
[21:43:27] <jshaver> i'm setting this up for joan
[21:43:27] <jshaver> while steve & I are gone
[21:43:33] <jmkasunich> ah
[21:43:35] <jshaver> yes - steve is on his way here
[22:34:02] <dmessier> hi all... another scrappy Tuesday.... ; (
[22:35:08] <dmessier> f18 launch bar ... $$$
[22:36:00] <dmessier> 0.073" drill busted and dug in... bad
[22:38:01] <dmessier> its fro a grease nipple.... go figure eh... $63 000 us
[22:43:13] <Jymmm> $63 for a nipple, you could got the whole tit for $50 =)
[22:43:29] <Jymmm> a pair of em even
[22:43:40] <dmessier> no the hole is for a grease nipple
[22:44:36] <dmessier> the part is 64 K US
[22:45:02] <Jymmm> You could get LOTS of boobs for $65,000 USD, plus a whole lot more too!
[22:45:35] <dmessier> but can you hook her to a catapult...???
[22:45:52] <Jymmm> Sure, but the quantity of boobs goes down.
[22:45:58] <dmessier> with an f18 on her back
[22:46:24] <dmessier> and SHE has to hang on
[22:46:27] <Jymmm> absolutely
[22:46:37] <Jymmm> http://BunnyRanch.com/
[22:46:48] <dmessier> man your meetin the tough ones arent ya...
[22:46:52] <Jymmm> You can even get a p0rn star!
[22:47:04] <dmessier> or a pop star...
[22:47:35] <Jymmm> nah, you need $100,000 USD for that
[22:47:39] <dmessier> im sure they arent the same strength as aermet 100
[22:48:34] <dmessier> even such a small piece... envelope ??? 3"x4"x30"
[22:48:49] <Jymmm> no clue
[22:49:02] <dmessier> but it isnt the whole envelope
[22:49:27] <dmessier> 75mmx100mmx.9M
[22:49:45] <Jymmm> back from the dentist in under 15 minutes, and got a script for some antibiotics for this damn sinus infection too @ no charge
[22:50:20] <dmessier> the script is no charge... the drugs ARE
[22:50:46] <Jymmm> No, had a tooth repaired in 15 minutes
[22:51:03] <giacus> exctracted ?
[22:51:07] <Jymmm> If I had to go to a doctro to tget the script it would have been a $60 visit charge
[22:51:14] <Jymmm> giacus repaired
[22:51:16] <dmessier> dont ever let it get to a sinal infestation... cause wierd stuff happens.. like bells-palsy
[22:51:25] <giacus> wow
[22:52:08] <dmessier> i lost all motor motion in 1/2 my face for a few months...
[22:52:22] <dmessier> i coulnd not blink
[22:52:27] <dmessier> in 1 eye
[22:52:37] <Jymmm> no shots, just grabbed the grinder and polisher and fixed it
[22:52:48] <dmessier> or lift my mouth to smile...
[22:53:37] <dmessier> i did an in/out dentist same way... you grind... fix... you hurt... I fix YOU
[22:55:32] <dmessier> on the Bells-palsy bit... it never goes away... i feel it on cold winter days... it tritches..
[22:56:19] <dmessier> docs sayed 60 % never recover from the 1st episode/infesation of the verves
[22:56:45] <giacus> :S
[22:57:44] <dmessier> so one day 1 will be a 1 eyed freaky people -- monster eater...
[22:58:35] <giacus> I just go to the dentist with a bug gun
[22:58:43] <giacus> got no problem until now
[22:58:44] <dmessier> with a full shop of EMC machines... ; )
[23:00:03] <dmessier> bug gun?? my father showed me a tennis racket thing that fries airborn bugs... works on the kids too
[23:00:20] <Jymmm> dmessier harborfreight sells those
[23:00:38] <dmessier> i WOULD not like to see one dropped in a TUB...
[23:00:40] <giacus> big*
[23:01:01] <Jymmm> $3 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=40122
[23:02:14] <dmessier> thats different... we have a national gun controlled registry that lets me see what guns my dentist has to be able to borrow /rent a bigger gun.. AND i know if he has the right ammo for it
[23:02:57] <dmessier> but it did cost us 2 BILLION dollars
[23:03:05] <dmessier> no shite
[23:03:31] <giacus> haha
[23:04:12] <dmessier> check it out .. its our national farce...
[23:05:16] <dmessier> guess what... we know now what we knew before... WE've ALL got guns..... we HUNT for OUR food...
[23:05:38] <dmessier> with what.. stones...???
[23:06:08] <dmessier> you whities gave us guns... and the evil booze
[23:11:17] <giacus> both sides of the gun
[23:28:48] <giacus> bauahaha http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/2697
[23:33:26] <giacus> the link at complete video on this page http://www.repubblica.it/index.html
[23:34:20] <giacus> :D
[23:44:06] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c:
[23:44:06] <CIA-8> create rtapi_request_region and rtapi_release_region (wrappers around the linux
[23:44:06] <CIA-8> kernel calls when it exists) and use them in hal_parport instead of the direct
[23:44:06] <CIA-8> linux calls.
[23:44:07] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/rtapi/rtapi.h:
[23:44:07] <CIA-8> create rtapi_request_region and rtapi_release_region (wrappers around the linux
[23:44:08] <CIA-8> kernel calls when it exists) and use them in hal_parport instead of the direct
[23:44:13] <CIA-8> linux calls.
[23:53:39] <Jymmm> jepler cradek : You might find this interesting... http://hypertextbook.com/chaos/33.shtml
[23:53:44] <Jymmm> ~~~~~
[23:53:50] <giacus> cool guy this goma :)
[23:54:36] <giacus> hope he got the job at the end! rotl