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[00:06:47] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10documents/scratch.txt: diffs?
[00:11:40] <cradek> email diffs done
[00:13:12] <alex_joni> great stuff..
[00:13:33] <jmkasunich> I still haven't gotten the first one
[00:13:42] <jmkasunich> (first email.... damn isp)
[00:14:31] <cradek> you won't get any
[00:14:42] <jmkasunich> oh, you redirected to you for testing?
[00:14:44] <cradek> yes
[00:14:49] <jmkasunich> duh
[00:14:59] <dave-e> #+ Base task period, in secs - this is the fastest thread in the machine
[00:14:59] <dave-e> BASE_PERIOD = 0.000050
[00:14:59] <dave-e> #- Servo task period, in secs - will be rounded to an int multiple of BASE_PERIOD
[00:14:59] <dave-e> SERVO_PERIOD = 0.001000
[00:14:59] <dave-e> #- Trajectory Planner task period, in secs - will be rounded to an
[00:15:00] <dave-e> # integer multiple of SERVO_PERIOD
[00:15:04] <dave-e> TRAJ_PERIOD = 0.010000
[00:15:17] <cradek> hey a paste
[00:15:26] <cradek> dave-e: I'm glad you got a network connection out there
[00:16:07] <alex_joni> dave-e: you need to convert those numbers to nsec
[00:16:25] <jmkasunich> he's doing that
[00:16:29] <alex_joni> BASE_PERIOD = 50000
[00:16:32] <alex_joni> * alex_joni shuts up :)
[00:16:52] <jmkasunich> problem: too many copies of the same files in different directorys.... not editing the ones he thought he was editing
[00:20:48] <robin_sz> perhaps a BASE_FREQ=20000 might be easier to undestand
[00:21:26] <jmkasunich> cradek: is the .emcrc file in the release?
[00:21:31] <jmkasunich> or is it just in head?
[00:21:32] <robin_sz> the config parser could mung it as it went along
[00:21:34] <cradek> seems like it's not
[00:21:50] <cradek> also I notice it doesn't work right in head
[00:21:54] <jmkasunich> ok, that explains why dave has no emcrc
[00:22:03] <jmkasunich> hes getting something really strange
[00:22:11] <cradek> it starts with my default selection scrolled up off the display
[00:22:45] <jmkasunich> he's in /home/dave/something, and after attempting to run he winds up in home/dave/emc2/myconfigs/stg
[00:22:55] <jmkasunich> myconfigs doesn't even appear in the picker
[00:23:14] <cradek> myconfigs is bogus, he should delete it
[00:23:56] <jmkasunich> myconfigs might be the only place his custom config is stored... so no delete unless backed up
[00:24:18] <cradek> true enough
[00:24:30] <cradek> but nothing has ever used that path, unless he specified it on the commandline
[00:24:44] <jmkasunich> thats why I'm so mystified
[00:24:55] <jmkasunich> I'm having him check .emcrc
[00:25:08] <cradek> but there won't be one
[00:25:11] <jmkasunich> ok
[00:29:04] <jmkasunich> cd ~
[00:29:32] <jmkasunich> mv em2/myconfigs backup
[00:48:18] <jmkasunich> ls ~/emc2
[00:48:36] <jmkasunich> should show "configs"
[00:48:43] <jmkasunich> ls ~/emc2/configs
[00:48:51] <jmkasunich> should show at least "stg"
[00:49:03] <jmkasunich> ls ~/emc2/configs/stg
[00:49:17] <jmkasunich> should show your ini file(s) and hal files, including core-servo.hal
[00:51:20] <jmkasunich> cp ~/backup/core_servo.hal ~/emc2/configs/stg/core_servo.hal
[01:07:01] <jepler> the gateway machine to cvs.linuxcnc.org had a little glitch, but all's well now.
[01:07:23] <cradek> yay
[01:08:36] <jmkasunich> diff /etc/emc2/sample-configs/stg.stg.ini ~/emc2/configs/stg/stg_inch.ini
[01:09:32] <jmkasunich> diff /etc/emc2/sample-configs/stg/stg.ini ~/emc2/configs/stg/stg_inch.ini
[01:09:37] <jmkasunich> I made a mistake the first time
[01:14:05] <jmkasunich> http://pastebin.com/691489
[01:14:11] <dave-e> http://pastebin.com/691489
[01:16:40] <jmkasunich> diff /etc/emc2/sample-configs/stg/ ~/emc2/configs/stg/
[01:16:52] <jmkasunich> that will diff all the files
[01:23:47] <jmkasunich> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=691498
[01:28:48] <jmkasunich> success!
[01:29:08] <cradek> yay
[01:46:43] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10infrastructure/cvs-server/log: diffs in the emails
[01:48:53] <jmkasunich> nice
[01:49:12] <cradek> not really, the diff is bogus
[01:52:32] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10infrastructure/cvs-server/log: fix whitespace breakage in the diff
[01:52:40] <cradek> there
[01:52:43] <cradek> (maybe)
[01:52:53] <cradek> checking in the change is my idea of testing it I guess
[01:53:03] <cradek> yep that did it
[03:43:20] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c:
[03:43:20] <CIA-4> fix too-slow feed on the move after synchronization, and try to fix the
[03:43:20] <CIA-4> still-synchronized-after-abort problem
[03:45:28] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c: cleanup
[03:53:11] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c:
[03:53:11] <CIA-4> didn't mean to check in this hack that shows synced moves in a different
[03:53:11] <CIA-4> color, but we might want it later anyway when axis does something smart
[03:53:11] <CIA-4> with it.
[04:16:34] <dave-e> cradek you still around?
[04:16:51] <cradek> not for long
[04:16:59] <cradek> it's pretty late...
[04:17:01] <cradek> what's up?
[04:17:08] <dave-e> gee. I wonder why ;_0
[04:17:17] <dave-e> :-)
[04:17:46] <dave-e> were you running on stepper or sym or servo when you did the axis plot?
[04:18:05] <dave-e> sim
[04:18:20] <cradek> probably sim
[04:18:27] <cradek> do you still get an arc you don't expect?
[04:18:40] <dave-e> runs fine on stepper....
[04:18:46] <dave-e> but not on servo
[04:19:06] <cradek> wow, that's very strange then
[04:19:08] <dave-e> I'm beginning to suppect it needs more precision
[04:19:37] <cradek> yes it's probably something like that, but I'm surprised it's different for servo
[04:19:38] <dave-e> I'm going to try more significant figures tomorrow and see what happens.
[04:19:43] <cradek> ok
[04:19:58] <cradek> is it exactly that same code you sent me?
[04:20:13] <dave-e> yes... just a couple thou more lines of it
[04:20:19] <cradek> ok
[04:20:30] <cradek> maybe tomorrow I'll try it with jmk's simulated servo configuration
[04:20:37] <cradek> but you're probably right about the precision
[04:20:54] <dave-e> oh. good idea.. talk to you tomorrow or when I find out more.
[04:20:55] <cradek> let us know what you get
[04:20:58] <cradek> ok, goodnight
[04:21:05] <dave-e> will do have a good night.
[04:21:46] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c: more abort problems fixed
[04:22:58] <A-L-P-H-A> anyone got a good webpage stat thing?
[04:52:10] <Jymmm> A-L-P-H-A: awstats
[04:52:39] <Jymmm> http://awstats.sourceforge.net/
[05:01:59] <A-L-P-H-A> 'ight
[05:02:00] <A-L-P-H-A> I'll check it
[05:02:03] <A-L-P-H-A> just installed bbclone
[05:02:05] <A-L-P-H-A> php?
[05:12:19] <A-L-P-H-A> is a load average of load averages: 7.16, 14.69, 12.36 bad?
[05:12:32] <A-L-P-H-A> for a webserver
[06:18:41] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/TODO: module parameter handling fixes for kernel 2.6
[06:18:41] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/stepgen.c: module parameter handling fixes for kernel 2.6
[06:18:41] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_parport.c: module parameter handling fixes for kernel 2.6
[06:18:41] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/rtapi/rtapi.h: module parameter handling fixes for kernel 2.6
[06:18:42] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/hal_lib.c: module parameter handling fixes for kernel 2.6
[06:20:45] <CIA-4> 03compile-farm 07BDI-Live rc46 (2.4.25-adeos) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot4_log.txt
[06:26:46] <CIA-4> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[06:32:44] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/rtapi/rtapi.h: another attempt, trying to make it work for pre 2.6 now
[06:33:56] <CIA-4> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[06:43:55] <CIA-4> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build PASSED
[06:44:04] <jmkasunich> yay!
[06:48:00] <core386> Hi to all from Italy!
[06:49:13] <CIA-4> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build PASSED
[06:50:10] <core386> Could somebody help me with emc2 axis homing?
[06:50:20] <jmkasunich> what are you trying to do?
[06:51:12] <core386> i want to home to switches from Gcode, but i didn't find how.
[06:51:28] <jmkasunich> homing is not done from gcode
[06:51:54] <jmkasunich> homing is done by pressing the home button on the GUI
[06:52:18] <jmkasunich> (that is what starts the homing process)
[06:52:31] <jmkasunich> the actual process depends on things that you set in your ini file
[06:52:49] <jmkasunich> by default pushing the home button simply sets the current position as "home"
[06:53:44] <core386> yes, i've try and it works fine, is possible to send the "home" command from a custom Mcode?
[06:54:01] <jmkasunich> I don't think so
[06:54:11] <jmkasunich> I only know the low level stuff
[06:54:25] <jmkasunich> if it didn't home correctly from the GUI button I could help you
[06:54:35] <jmkasunich> but making it home from g-code I don't know that part
[06:55:10] <core386> From the gui it works fine, but sometimes i forgot ;)
[06:55:41] <jmkasunich> actually it might be possible with emcsh, but I don't know enough to be sure
[06:55:54] <jmkasunich> its also very late here, time for me to sleep
[06:56:12] <core386> thank you for your help
[06:56:20] <jmkasunich> not much help, sorry
[06:56:46] <core386> emc2 is great
[06:57:13] <jmkasunich> if you post your question on the emc-users mailing list you'll probably get an answer in 24 hours or less
[06:57:34] <core386> ok i will do
[07:01:41] <CIA-4> 03compile-farm 07BDI-Live rc46 (2.4.25-adeos) * 10emc2head/: build PASSED
[07:05:37] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/stepgen.c: one more try, array params for kernel 2.4
[07:05:37] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/rtapi/rtapi.h: one more try, array params for kernel 2.4
[07:11:27] <chinamill> * chinamill is away: -
[07:21:29] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_ax5214h.c: final cleanup of new module parameter code
[07:21:30] <CIA-4> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/rtapi/rtapi.h: final cleanup of new module parameter code
[07:22:11] <jmkasunich> bedtime
[09:09:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> logger_aj: bookmark
[09:09:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> See http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-05-01#T09-09-14
[09:11:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> can one get logger_aj to output earlier logs?
[09:15:07] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, I figured it out. pity logger_aj joined so late
[09:19:51] <fenn> sigh.. why is ^w close? that doesnt make any sense
[09:54:36] <Lerneaen_Hydra> is EMC in need of a new splashscreen (is the existsing one is old/outdated and so on)?
[09:56:01] <fenn> i mentioned it one time and nobody really seemed interested much
[10:00:22] <Lerneaen_Hydra> heh, I guess that's understandable though, if one takes into account the audience that EMC is made for (compared to the gimp or another program like that)
[11:51:37] <rayh> logger_aj, bookmark
[11:51:37] <rayh> See http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-05-01#T11-51-37
[12:37:29] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> Lerneaen_Hydra_ is now known as Lerneaen_Hydra
[12:38:11] <jepler> morning guys
[12:38:27] <SWPadnos> howdy
[12:38:32] <rayh> Hi jeff
[12:48:12] <Lerneaen_Hydra> mornin'
[12:48:31] <SWPadnos> hiya LH
[13:25:36] <robin__> robin__ is now known as robin_sz
[13:35:09] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10documents/scratch.txt: fix backslash problem in the diff
[13:35:23] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10infrastructure/cvs-server/log: fix backslash problem in the diff
[14:04:29] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/max/ (max.hal max.ini):
[14:04:29] <CIA-4> although this doesn't represent what's on the real machine anymore,
[14:04:29] <CIA-4> I think it's more valuable to have a simulated threading setup.
[14:43:10] <CIA-4> 03rayh 07HEAD * 10emc2/tcl/bin/halconfig.tcl: skip commented hal lines
[14:49:41] <robin__> robin__ is now known as robin_sz
[16:36:53] <CIA-4> 03jepler 07maint1_2 * 10axis/i18n/axis.pot: rebuild
[16:37:19] <CIA-4> 03jepler 07maint1_2 * 10axis/setup.py: bump version number for release
[16:37:20] <CIA-4> 03jepler 07maint1_2 * 10axis/scripts/axis.py: bump version number for release
[17:15:19] <CIA-4> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/ (scope.c scope_rt.c scope_rt.h scope_shm.h scope_usr.h): Fix typos in the word "Oscilloscope"
[17:59:52] <cradek> SWPadnos: thanks, can't believe I didn't see that
[18:00:43] <SWPadnos> heh - it's been bugging me for a long time
[18:28:01] <alpha1125> sup folks?
[18:28:34] <alpha1125> alpha1125 is now known as A-L-P-H-A
[18:42:55] <alex_joni> hello
[18:51:39] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emccanon.cc: fix XZ and YZ arcs when tool length compensation is in use
[18:54:55] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07v2_0_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emccanon.cc: fix XZ and YZ arcs when tool length compensation is in use
[18:57:23] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emccanon.cc: cleanup
[19:37:05] <chinamill> Hello
[19:37:30] <jepler> hi chinamill
[19:38:18] <chinamill> I made some progress on a THC driver for emc2
[19:38:40] <alex_joni> cool
[19:38:43] <chinamill> It's starting to work better :)
[19:39:33] <chinamill> So if you here of somebody wanting to set up a torch height controller you can direct them to me.
[19:45:36] <chinamill> I had a bizare thing today with emc2, after a program was done, I got strange values on XYZ. After setting new g54 offsets I could run again. and then back to the same strange values. Any ideas? (If it persists Ill get back to emc-devel)
[19:47:29] <cradek> maybe the program changes coordinate systems and one has unexpected offsets set?
[19:47:55] <cradek> you could check your var file to be sure
[19:48:44] <chinamill> ok... I'll do that later...
[20:56:08] <CIA-4> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10documents/lyx/Hal_Introduction.lyx:
[20:56:08] <CIA-4> Miscellaneous spelling and grammar corrections.
[20:56:08] <CIA-4> Added several new-ish features to the halcmd section
[20:56:08] <CIA-4> Miscellaneous corrections to various component descriptions
[20:57:07] <cradek> SWPadnos: can you make the pdf and update the one in emc2/docs?
[20:57:15] <SWPadnos> yep
[20:57:19] <cradek> thanks
[21:02:22] <SWPadnos> hmmm - the pdf file just jumped in size by 300k. maybe I need to use a different output filter
[21:02:56] <cradek> no clue here
[21:03:35] <alex_joni> which did you use?
[21:04:02] <SWPadnos> File->Export->PDF
[21:04:15] <SWPadnos> not specifically dvipdfm or pdflatex
[21:04:24] <alex_joni> I think JMK uses pdflatex
[21:04:33] <SWPadnos> ok. I'll try that one
[21:04:57] <SWPadnos> I wonder if this one has thumbnails or something
[21:05:02] <SWPadnos> or maybe embedded fonts
[21:05:53] <CIA-4> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10documents/lyx/Hal_Introduction.lyx: missed one oscilliscope
[21:07:16] <giacus> hello
[21:07:30] <SWPadnos> ok. that did it
[21:08:22] <SWPadnos> hi giacus
[21:08:37] <giacus> hi SWPadnos :)
[21:09:44] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: coo
[21:10:06] <SWPadnos> one day, I may try to see what the difference in the generated pdfs is
[21:10:33] <alex_joni> diff might be the wrong tool there
[21:10:46] <SWPadnos> eyeballs may work
[21:12:26] <CIA-4> 03swpadnos 07HEAD * 10emc2/docs/Hal_Introduction.pdf: Update pdf to match the documents module, with miscellaneous spelling/grammar corrections
[21:12:28] <SWPadnos> I don't think I have a TESTING checkout - can someone else copy the pdf over?
[21:25:15] <asdfqwega> logger_aj, bookmark
[21:25:15] <asdfqwega> See http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-05-01#T21-25-15
[21:32:04] <alex_joni> hi K4ts
[21:32:24] <K4ts> hello
[21:34:37] <alex_joni> Buon Compleanno!
[21:34:55] <K4ts> thanks
[21:36:09] <giacus> :)
[21:40:10] <Jymmm> When you have rough cut lumber (like redwood fencing), how are you suppose to smooth it out typically? Sanding? Planer? something else?
[21:43:10] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is off to bed
[21:43:15] <alex_joni> good night everyone
[21:43:29] <bill20r3> goodnight.
[21:43:49] <giacus> G night alex_joni
[21:44:18] <K4ts> night alex_joni
[21:49:08] <giacus> Jymmm: using an eco-blaster ?
[21:51:27] <giacus> I meant something likt this http://www.ibix.it/blaster_specialcleaning_english/eco_blasters/ecoblaster_ibix9f2.htm
[21:54:48] <giacus> - Because working pressure can be adjusted from 0.2 bar to 8/9 bar the machine can be adapted to the type of surface being cleaned (steel, aluminium, wood..
[21:55:12] <giacus> but I'm not sure it would work nice for that :)
[21:55:57] <giacus> depend on the hand who drive it ..
[21:56:40] <SWPadnos> that's more of a cleaning device, not a surface preparation device
[21:56:55] <SWPadnos> a planer, followed by sanding is the most common, I believe
[21:57:10] <SWPadnos> for small stuff, you can use a jointer/planer
[21:57:17] <SWPadnos> then a sander, if necessary
[22:03:10] <Jymmm> I dont have a jointer/planer, the problem is no storage for one.
[22:04:59] <Jymmm> I have a palm sander I use, what about a belt sander (large surface area)?
[22:06:07] <bill20r3> that'll work if it's really flat (or you want it to be).
[22:08:07] <Jymmm> not so much flat as much as smooth.... I'll be there for days trying to use my palm sander and 45 sheets later =)
[22:08:42] <bill20r3> * bill20r3 watches http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7613453617
[22:08:49] <Jymmm> This is what I have --> http://www.makita.co.nz/_images/products-large/BO4553-L.jpg
[22:08:59] <bill20r3> belt sanders will miss the low-spots, if it's pretty flat you should be find
[22:09:19] <Jymmm> * Jymmm bids $100
[22:09:28] <bill20r3> boo.
[22:09:33] <Jymmm> lol
[22:09:47] <bill20r3> I'm hoping they'll stay cheap since they dont have the rails with them.
[22:10:30] <Jymmm> Hmmm. I thought when you remove the trucks the bearing would fall out?
[22:10:36] <bill20r3> nah.
[22:11:58] <Jymmm> this looks SO wicked http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=30749
[22:12:50] <bill20r3> doesn't look like you can sand with the flat , just the end part.
[22:13:24] <Jymmm> no clue... just every thime I see it makes me think of some midevil torture device =)
[22:13:29] <Jymmm> medevil
[22:14:12] <giacus> :D
[22:15:14] <Jymmm> do they make variable speed belt sanders and would it make a difference?
[22:15:53] <bill20r3> I dont really know, I dont have a belt sander.
[22:16:14] <Jymmm> LOL Makita belt sander... $99 new at sears, $80 refurbed at HF
[22:16:31] <Jymmm> ah, they DO make variable speed
[22:17:05] <giacus> should not be difficult to get that
[22:20:38] <giacus> for small jobs I use this: http://www.bricoshop.it/details.asp?prodid=9096&cat=1202&path=1190,1202
[22:20:52] <giacus> by hand, of course
[22:30:42] <Jymmm> giacus: It's in italian!
[22:32:01] <giacus> sorry.. I've no idea how it is called in english :s
[22:33:07] <giacus> steel wool maybe ..
[22:33:45] <Jymmm> giacus on rough-cut lumber?! Humie don't play that!
[22:33:48] <Jymmm> Homie
[22:34:08] <giacus> yeah..
[22:34:13] <giacus> you're right
[22:34:48] <Jymmm> =)
[22:34:57] <giacus> I've to find a machine using that yet :(
[22:35:03] <giacus> would be nice
[22:35:14] <Jymmm> ?
[22:35:52] <giacus> using the material I showed
[22:36:13] <Jymmm> what material? I only saw steel wool
[22:36:22] <giacus> yeah, that
[22:36:45] <Jymmm> that's for giving a patina on a finich using 0000 steel wool
[22:36:50] <Jymmm> finish
[22:41:30] <giacus> K, i'm probably missing to understand the term you used
[22:41:50] <giacus> looking .. http://woodworking.about.com/od/woodworkingglossary/g/rough_cut.htm
[22:42:58] <giacus> is that ?
[22:43:04] <Jymmm> yes
[22:43:07] <giacus> ok
[22:43:44] <Jymmm> rough cut 2" x 8" --> http://www.realcountrylife.com/images/Web%20New%20Coop/lg%20new%20coop_04.jpg
[22:44:46] <Jymmm> giacus: Notice the nice shiny floor joist on the left? That's finished, the ones on top are riugh cut
[22:44:55] <Jymmm> err rough cut
[22:45:52] <giacus> looking
[22:53:50] <Jymmm> Niece article... http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/pages/h00050.asp
[22:55:14] <jepler> can someone tell me if G38.2 is supposed to work in emc2? Which of the G8x canned cycles work?
[22:56:43] <giacus> Jymmm: I'd like to know how work this http://cgi.ebay.it/PIALLA-PER-LEGNO-MAKITA-1902-K-PROFESSIONALE_W0QQitemZ7615347234QQcategoryZ20782QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[22:57:01] <giacus> but again, sorry, isn't english :(
[22:57:31] <Jymmm> giacus: It's a hand planer
[22:57:37] <giacus> yeah
[22:57:47] <giacus> could be faster ?
[22:58:08] <Jymmm> giacus: Yes, but can remove too much material easily too.
[22:58:47] <Jymmm> giacus: If I have to buy another power tool, I'd like to have mor ethan one use for it. A belt sander can remove a LOT of material.
[22:59:02] <Jymmm> from my understanding
[22:59:29] <Jymmm> I have more need in finishing tools than shaping ones.
[23:00:15] <Jymmm> giacus plus you have to replace blades too =)
[23:01:48] <giacus> yeah, I know ..
[23:10:36] <K4ts> night
[23:13:26] <giacus> I like this http://www.pmu.it/imgprod/levigatrice.JPG
[23:13:34] <giacus> or something like that
[23:14:04] <giacus> someebay price seems nice
[23:14:43] <giacus> bedtime.. G night
[23:15:03] <Jymmm> G'Night giacus
[23:21:46] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07v2_0_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c:
[23:21:46] <CIA-4> g33 is in the release; there's no need to have it broken. These are
[23:21:46] <CIA-4> changes 1.44-1.48 merged from head.
[23:33:17] <CIA-4> 03cradek 07HEAD * 10infrastructure/cvs-server/log: warn when lines are suppressed