#emc | Logs for 2006-02-20

[00:06:16] <A-L-P-H-A> later
[00:15:37] <cradek> looks like I just missed alex
[01:03:23] <bill__> bill__ is now known as bill20r3
[02:20:57] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich * 10emc2/src/Makefile: make the vti driver compile on 2.4 based systems
[02:48:19] <CIA-8> 03jepler * 10emc2/tcl/mini.tcl:
[02:48:20] <CIA-8> The slowness in mini's startup was the unnecessary 'after 10000' which was used
[02:48:20] <CIA-8> to calculate the resolution of [clock clicks], which was only used in some
[02:48:20] <CIA-8> nonfunctional code.
[02:48:20] <CIA-8> Remove the nonfunctional code, the 'after 10000', and all the 'update's which
[02:48:20] <CIA-8> were added in an attempt to make the mini window appear more quickly
[03:36:42] <skunkworks> logger_aj: bookmark
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[17:50:21] <Jymmm> Hi les_w
[17:50:33] <les_w> hey jymmm
[17:50:44] <les_w> lunch break for me
[17:50:58] <Jymmm> les_w Ah, ok. Enjoy!
[17:51:13] <les_w> and was talking with some patent law guys
[17:51:22] <les_w> no I finished lunch
[17:51:44] <Jymmm> les_w you writing another patent?
[17:52:15] <les_w> in aug 06 a key patent consigned to ITW EXPIRES
[17:52:22] <les_w> stuck key
[17:52:30] <les_w> that's the heaer one....
[17:52:34] <les_w> heater
[17:52:38] <Jymmm> les_w: Ah, so how can we exploit that?
[17:52:51] <les_w> with over half a billion in sales
[17:53:18] <les_w> I think i'm gonna get an offer I can't refuse.....
[17:53:20] <les_w> haha
[17:54:15] <Jymmm> SO what do you do, create something new?
[17:54:25] <les_w> but yeah....I think they want to kep my little head busy
[17:55:08] <les_w> Well it's all in my head...(the heater)
[17:55:23] <les_w> they want me to come back
[17:55:25] <les_w> but
[17:55:27] <les_w> no!
[17:55:29] <les_w> haha
[17:56:00] <Jymmm> They want you to create somethign else, no just keep your mouth shut?
[17:56:05] <Jymmm> s/no/or/
[17:56:12] <les_w> anyway, I'm still creating good products for them
[17:56:52] <les_w> They know I am aggressive, entrepreneurial...and would jump on the heater.....
[17:57:12] <les_w> they'll talk me out of it I expect
[17:57:49] <Jymmm> They want you to create somethign else, -or- just keep your mouth shut?
[17:58:03] <les_w> all I can say is I want things to turn out so I never have to think about money again
[17:58:14] <les_w> yes to both
[17:58:34] <les_w> the reason this came up is I thought my patents were 20 years
[17:58:53] <les_w> but in 89...they are only 17 years
[17:59:08] <les_w> so aug this year!!!!
[17:59:12] <les_w> not 3 years
[18:01:13] <les_w> so big surprise to me
[18:02:54] <Jymmm> But couldn't someone else just exploit the expired patent?
[18:04:00] <les_w> Only I know how to make it. They still use my software to design them, and they have no idea how it works.
[18:04:19] <Jymmm> ah, ok
[18:04:31] <les_w> The patents don't tell how to make themeither.
[18:05:57] <Jymmm> TT resistor
[18:06:11] <les_w> I was showing paul some of that source code....half an inch stck of paper
[18:06:30] <les_w> it's a cam system
[18:07:31] <Jymmm> ah, ok
[18:08:17] <les_w> oh, well. Back to the shop. the clutch is acting up on the lathe....you know, the split cone south bend type
[18:08:31] <les_w> might have to make a new one.
[18:08:50] <les_w> the lathe can make some parts for itself!
[18:09:05] <Jymmm> les_w I had a question
[18:09:10] <les_w> yeah?
[18:09:34] <Jymmm> les_w could you see any reason why I would have issue carving douglas fir, but none using mdf or ironwood?
[18:09:58] <les_w> desert iron wood?
[18:10:02] <Jymmm> ipe
[18:10:07] <les_w> oh ok
[18:10:20] <les_w> well doug fir is splintery that's all
[18:10:27] <les_w> what issues?
[18:10:47] <Jymmm> I seem to ALWAYS have one issue or another with Douglas fir. It's never the same issue, but always enough to destroy the piece.
[18:10:51] <les_w> fuzzing up?
[18:11:34] <Jymmm> fuzzing I can fix easily. just the way the tool moves thru it somethign mucks up. This time it
[18:12:32] <les_w> ?
[18:12:38] <Jymmm> as if the tool raised up in the v carving
[18:13:08] <les_w> a low spot will do that
[18:14:32] <Jymmm> Well, what I wanted to know is if there's characteristics in douglas fir that could cause various issues, when other speciies dont.
[18:15:56] <les_w> sorry heard the chickens squaking....it was just a cat.
[18:16:18] <Jymmm> np
[18:16:25] <les_w> yeah, doug fir is very splintery and not the easiest to machine
[18:16:50] <les_w> you know, hard woods often rout cleaner
[18:17:17] <Jymmm> so I would probably have the same issues carving pine as well
[18:17:31] <les_w> maple and cherry are a little tough also due to the tendency to scortch
[18:17:35] <les_w> ah phone
[18:17:39] <Jymmm> k
[18:29:35] <les_w> investment manager.
[18:29:55] <les_w> I didn't have problems like that a little while ago.
[18:30:19] <les_w> heck, I might be broke next year!
[18:30:30] <les_w> (but I might not)
[18:30:35] <les_w> haha
[18:31:06] <les_w> ok back to the shop...and jymmm....just don't use doug fir!
[19:08:45] <Jymmm> les_w it's cheap! and purrrrty too
[19:51:19] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni * 10emc2/docs/man/man1/emc.1: initial version
[19:56:51] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni * 10emc2/src/Makefile: install emc manpage
[20:11:30] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni * 10emc2/docs/NEWS: keep trock of emc manpage
[20:12:54] <alex_joni> darn, I meant track
[20:13:05] <Jymmm> lol
[20:13:25] <alex_joni> yeah, ssh sux sometimes
[20:13:26] <skunkworks> Credak / Jepler - I finally used the shift key+right mouse button to rotate the drawing in axis. works awsome.
[20:13:59] <alex_joni> skunkworks: it does indeed. I finally appreciated that when I ran on a laptop without scroll wheel ;)
[20:14:21] <skunkworks> using a mouse right now with no wheel ;)
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[20:24:53] <skunkworks> I ment left mouse button ;)
[20:52:11] <les_w> ach trying to glue together pzt bimorphs .01 thick and cracked $100 worth
[20:53:10] <les_w> expensive glueing lesson...
[21:01:39] <alex_joni> skunkworks: still around?
[21:06:01] <skunkworks> whats up?
[21:06:14] <alex_joni> seems you are also prone to miss-spelling
[21:06:21] <alex_joni> ;)
[21:06:43] <skunkworks> very much so.
[21:07:02] <alex_joni> I think Credak sounds much more klingon ..
[21:07:07] <alex_joni> anyways, what's up?
[21:07:11] <alex_joni> how's emc running?
[21:07:53] <skunkworks> not hooked to the machine yet but a definate speed improvement.
[21:08:06] <skunkworks> Can't wait to do some cutting.
[21:08:18] <alex_joni> sounds great
[21:08:34] <skunkworks> I also want to install it on the 450mhz machine we have hooked to it now and see how it runs.
[21:09:16] <skunkworks> (plus the ubuntu is very user friendly)
[21:10:22] <jepler> skunkworks: cradek and I were just running emc2+axis on a 300MHz laptop .. seemed pretty good, surprisingly responsive
[21:10:24] <skunkworks> with the speed issue we where kinda looking for a faster machine - but with the way it is running now We might be able to get away with the 450
[21:11:02] <alex_joni> jepler: what BASE_PERIOD?
[21:11:18] <jepler> alex_joni: dunno, it was with the default stepper_inch.ini
[21:11:32] <alex_joni> oh, ok that should be fairly ok
[21:11:44] <skunkworks> jepler - that is promising. before the fastest machine seemed to be 450/500 mhz machines - seemed if we went faster there wasn't much of a speed improvement. Now I def works faster on faster machines.
[21:11:54] <alex_joni> 0.000050
[21:13:11] <cradek> jepler: if you put that unicode fix in axis, I'll make a new package so the brazilian guy can get it
[21:16:15] <jepler> cradek: ok, give me a few minutes
[21:16:56] <jepler> committed.
[21:17:59] <cradek> thanks
[21:24:41] <cradek> new emc2-axis package in the Ubuntu repository
[21:25:48] <alex_joni> hi bob
[21:26:50] <websys> hi alex
[21:27:13] <websys> has anyone used EMC for a lathe yet?
[21:27:15] <alex_joni> long time no see..
[21:27:23] <alex_joni> websys: a few, but not with threading
[21:28:08] <alex_joni> websys: how's synergy? anything new & exciting?
[21:28:20] <websys> Dave Engval is playing with our software for use on a lathe but I didn't know there were any EMC lathes
[21:28:51] <alex_joni> there are a few lathes, but as I said without proper threading support (electronic threading)
[21:29:06] <websys> Actually we are writing some custom things for a HexaPod waterJet
[21:29:08] <alex_joni> if it's a lathe that does that mechanically,then emc will rock it ;)
[21:29:19] <alex_joni> ohh.. nice. hexapods are fun
[21:29:40] <websys> And next week I'm off to a prospect that makes feed screws
[21:30:26] <websys> complex geometry when you start talking about dual mating screws
[21:32:52] <alex_joni> I don't think I've ever seen hexapod waterjets
[21:34:06] <websys> fun part is twisting in 5-axis so the cut remains straight
[21:35:15] <alex_joni> yeah, I can imagine
[21:35:23] <alex_joni> it's all about kins
[21:36:20] <websys> they're cutting blocks about 30cm thick so the taper is a factor
[21:38:54] <Jymmm> websys what are you using as a controller for 5 axis?
[21:39:39] <websys> they have some company on the east coast doing the controller - I just have to speak that language
[21:40:39] <websys> XYZIJK
[21:40:52] <alex_joni> IJK?
[21:41:15] <websys> defines the normal vector
[21:56:17] <alex_joni> websys: oh, ok
[21:56:21] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes to bed
[21:56:22] <alex_joni> night all
[23:48:31] <giacus> bed calls ..
[23:48:51] <giacus> tonight the night
[23:48:58] <giacus> ciao !
[23:52:14] <dmessier> high all
[23:52:32] <dmessier> i wish
[23:54:20] <dmessier> my2 boyz ARE gonna make me NUTZER