#emc | Logs for 2006-01-11

[00:02:36] <Jacky^> G nite
[00:38:38] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as JymmmAFK
[01:20:33] <JymmmAFK> JymmmAFK is now known as Jymmm
[02:46:46] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
[02:46:46] <Red70sShow> Red70sShow is now known as Jymmm
[03:10:44] <jepler> anybody had a chance to try axis 1.1.1rc3?
[03:10:52] <jepler> we'd love to get any feedback about it
[03:11:07] <SWP_Away> nope
[03:11:11] <SWP_Away> :)
[03:11:20] <jepler> oh well
[03:11:40] <SWP_Away> nothing personal - I haven't run emc for a while either
[03:12:58] <jepler> I understand
[03:13:03] <jepler> also, I think 1.1 works pretty well, maybe most people don't have any problems that are fixed by 1.1.1.
[03:13:36] <SWP_Away> I think the only thing that bothered me was the "pop" when you rotate, due to perspective scaling vs. orthogonal scaling
[03:14:30] <jepler> yeah it's an annoyance
[03:14:35] <jepler> any suggestions on how to solve it?
[03:15:15] <SWP_Away> there should be a way to get the correct perspective scale for each of the orthogonal zooms
[03:15:31] <SWP_Away> even if it's a table you get empirically and put in as constants
[03:16:05] <jepler> It's true that one particular plane can remain unchanged when you change from ortho to perspective
[03:16:26] <jepler> if it was alway some plan "inside" the loaded file, it would probably be an improvement
[03:16:41] <jepler> but the math is more than I can handle
[03:16:48] <SWP_Away> heh - me too at the moment
[03:17:56] <SWP_Away> since the pop only happens from an ortho mode though, it may be as simple as finding the tight fudge factor to multiply (stuff in the perspective matrix) by
[03:18:06] <SWP_Away> s/tight/right/
[08:56:38] <lilo> [Global Notice] Hi all. We've had another main rotation server scheduled for restart for a couple of days, and will be doing that in the next few minutes. Affected users, just under 2000, so you'll notice it. Apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you for using freenode!
[11:30:15] <cncuser> hi
[13:46:35] <alex_joni> morning
[13:47:00] <skunkworks> Hi
[13:47:06] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is almost dead..
[13:47:18] <alex_joni> dead tired that is..
[13:48:27] <skunkworks> you need more sleep
[13:49:26] <skunkworks> I love to state the obvious
[13:49:40] <alex_joni> nah.. too much physical labour today ;)
[13:49:47] <alex_joni> and the day is far from over..
[13:50:03] <skunkworks> day just started here.
[13:50:18] <alex_joni> 15:50 < skunkworks> day just started here.
[13:50:23] <skunkworks> ;)
[13:51:31] <cncuser> good morning alex_joni, skunkworks :)
[13:55:55] <skunkworks> morning
[14:00:17] <alex_joni> hello
[14:01:08] <cncuser> is there a special reason whgy adeos gets insmoded and not modprobed ?
[14:01:51] <cncuser> by the emc startscripts ?
[14:02:50] <cncuser> is there some setups where no modules.dep is generated ?
[14:09:46] <cncuser> whatever, allread got a workaround ;)
[14:09:53] <cncuser> another thing
[14:11:42] <cncuser> is it possible to send commands to emc via commandline while the axis or tkemc gui is active ?
[14:12:07] <cncuser> im thinking about using a joystick for manual positioning
[14:14:04] <jepler> cncuser: http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi/software/01119021973
[14:14:50] <jepler> cncuser: yes, multiple programs can send commands to emc
[14:15:19] <jepler> cncuser: the program I linked to above lets you jog and send other commands to emc with a digital joystick
[14:17:29] <skunkworks> that is pretty neet
[14:22:56] <alex_joni> hi jeff
[14:24:23] <jepler> hi alex
[14:24:30] <jepler> hi everyone else for that matter
[14:25:08] <alex_joni> ;)
[15:07:55] <jepler> * jepler goes in search of breakfast
[15:36:00] <cncuser> thanks jepler
[15:36:25] <cncuser> jepler: could you please repost the ngc with the pcb layout ?
[15:36:47] <cncuser> i lost it and want to take some more screenshot
[15:39:12] <cncuser> ah i found them :) got a little confused with to many stacks of unionfs:)
[16:01:00] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is gone home for today
[17:27:59] <CIA-8> 03cradek * 10emc2/TODO: I fixed this a while ago.
[19:30:56] <k4ts> Hi
[19:33:01] <Jymmm> hi
[19:34:35] <k4ts> hi Jymmm
[19:39:48] <Jymmm> k4ts how are you today?
[19:41:53] <k4ts> well good day
[20:35:10] <Jacky^> hello
[20:39:48] <alex_joni> hi all
[20:40:12] <cradek> hi
[20:48:34] <Jacky^_> mmhh
[20:50:28] <Jacky^_> k4ts: turned on the washing machine
[20:50:43] <Jacky^_> too much machine turned on at the same time :/
[20:51:03] <Jacky^_> for 2.5 kw ..
[20:55:50] <Jacky^_> anyone here has experience with international shipping and customs tax ?
[20:57:44] <alex_joni> * alex_joni has some
[20:57:53] <Jacky^_> hi alex_joni
[20:58:19] <Jacky^_> what If I send a gif to a friend in USA, value E .100
[20:58:31] <alex_joni> a gif?
[20:58:31] <Jacky^_> should he pay ? how much ?
[20:58:35] <Jacky^_> gift
[20:59:06] <Jacky^_> how they calculate the customs tax ?
[20:59:27] <Jacky^_> I know, I compiled a pro forma invoice
[20:59:50] <Jacky^_> assuming I writed Total value E. 100
[21:00:02] <alex_joni> depends on what it is
[21:00:05] <Jacky^_> how it work ?
[21:00:18] <alex_joni> and at the post office they ususally have a customs officer
[21:00:18] <Jacky^_> souvenirs, books ..
[21:00:41] <alex_joni> I know that for regular persons, everything under 100E is free of duty
[21:00:47] <alex_joni> at least in romania
[21:00:57] <Jacky^_> anyone know in US ?
[21:01:17] <alex_joni> I think it's a bit more relaxed over there..
[21:01:19] <Jacky^_> I read under E. 45 its free
[21:01:50] <Jacky^_> ok..
[21:02:21] <Jacky^_> I payed E. 103 for 3 geckos , but as commercial products
[21:02:29] <alex_joni> just make the proforma for 45E
[21:02:37] <alex_joni> say they are refurbished or something
[21:02:57] <Jacky^_> uhmm.. I already missed it then
[21:03:03] <Jacky^_> up to 45 ..
[21:03:47] <Jacky^_> damn it ..
[21:04:35] <Jacky^_> now, assuming I will send a gift to Jymmm : value E. 100
[21:04:48] <Jacky^_> how much he will pay ?
[21:05:07] <alex_joni> try it..
[21:05:16] <Jacky^_> how ?
[21:05:33] <Jacky^_> Postal office here sayd just some dollar ..
[21:05:40] <Jacky^_> O_O
[21:05:54] <alex_joni> it can't be more than 10% or so..
[21:06:13] <Jacky^_> ok, thats is good enough
[21:06:19] <Jacky^_> :)
[21:17:30] <k4ts> hello!
[21:18:40] <Jacky^> hola
[21:44:49] <Jymmm> ?
[21:47:07] <alex_joni> Jymmm: Jacky^ was asking if you know anything about getting packages from europe
[21:47:16] <alex_joni> how much you pay for duty and such
[21:48:49] <Jacky^> oh sorry .. was writing an email
[21:49:21] <Jacky^> I know very little about that
[21:50:19] <Jymmm> me neither... I avoid international shipping
[21:50:24] <Jacky^> I just bought 3 geckos from US time ago, and I payed E . 103 customs tax on a total of about E. 430
[21:50:40] <Jacky^> but it was a commercial product and tax
[21:51:14] <Jacky^> I suppose as gift customs tax should be not so much
[21:52:00] <Jacky^> I knowed another thing
[21:53:01] <Jacky^> it seem isnt possible to get any insurance on packages sended in US from here
[21:53:37] <Jacky^> Postal office today sayd to me, insurance is possible only for EU :(
[21:54:10] <Jacky^> that sound to me as a bad thing:/
[21:54:21] <alex_joni> Jacky^: use UPS
[21:54:34] <Jacky^> already sended
[21:54:41] <Jacky^> hey les_w
[21:54:49] <les_w> hi jacky just got your email
[21:54:50] <les_w> thanks
[21:54:54] <Jacky^> :-)
[21:55:06] <Jacky^> hope you like it
[21:55:18] <Jacky^> sorry .. if I missed something
[21:55:29] <les_w> I was working trying to buy beryllium foil for transducers
[21:55:34] <les_w> expensive stuff
[21:55:36] <Jacky^> right now was asking about customs tax ..
[21:55:43] <Jacky^> nice :)
[21:55:51] <Jacky^> got some progress ?
[21:56:09] <les_w> $1200/kg?
[21:56:11] <les_w> haha
[21:56:14] <Jacky^> hehehe
[21:56:44] <Jacky^> the service I choosed is cheaper then ups
[21:56:54] <les_w> and...I have to buy a car very soon . need to go to chicago and ohio .
[21:57:02] <alex_joni> bye all
[21:57:04] <Jacky^> POste italiane, but it may will take some day more :(
[21:57:13] <Jacky^> bye alex_joni
[21:57:18] <les_w> bye alex
[21:58:45] <Jacky^> I seen some photos from latest LA motor show
[21:58:52] <Jacky^> really great :)
[21:59:08] <Jacky^> wonder what will be in Detroit :P
[22:00:14] <Jacky^> I know, of course youre not looking at cars like that
[22:00:19] <Jacky^> :-)
[22:00:47] <Jacky^> there was a one, really with an incredible HIFI inside
[22:00:48] <les_w> let me show you...will take a min
[22:01:07] <Jacky^> and a big 30 " colour lcd in the rear
[22:01:17] <Jacky^> was incredible :)
[22:02:18] <les_w> http://www.nctd.com/review-intro.cfm?Vehicle=2005_Lexus_GS&ReviewID=1606
[22:02:26] <les_w> what do you think of this?
[22:03:06] <les_w> Seems nice inside, a little plain outside
[22:03:08] <Jacky^> looks nice
[22:03:23] <k4ts> hello
[22:03:30] <k4ts> hello les_w
[22:03:31] <les_w> hi anna!
[22:03:32] <Jacky^> and if you choosed it, im sure its a great car !
[22:03:34] <Jacky^> hehe
[22:03:41] <les_w> ha
[22:04:05] <les_w> I just ordered some hi fi speakers for audio work
[22:04:15] <les_w> I ordered 24 speakers!!
[22:04:26] <Jacky^> woow :)
[22:04:27] <les_w> for line arrays.
[22:04:31] <Jymmm> 22" ?
[22:04:46] <les_w> nah 4.5" cast frame mids
[22:04:52] <Jacky^> great
[22:05:41] <les_w> Doing some experiments...I may design a new driver for audio/hifi
[22:05:54] <Jymmm> 4000 Watts
[22:05:57] <les_w> make protos with emc!
[22:06:03] <Jacky^> :P
[22:06:27] <les_w> 100 mm beryllium dome mid
[22:06:31] <les_w> perhaps
[22:06:43] <Jymmm> les_w I thought of a 18 speaker system for a car once =)
[22:06:49] <les_w> awfully expensive to make
[22:07:28] <Jacky^> max HIFI I got in a car was 3 way + sub kit
[22:07:46] <les_w> Oh I have two acoustics consulting jobs now...thought I would mess with the hifi stuff too while I am in that state of mind
[22:08:06] <les_w> I used to design hifi stuff for a living.
[22:08:10] <Jymmm> les_w: 150 24" speakers!!!
[22:08:22] <les_w> aeeiii
[22:08:25] <Jacky^> BMW woofer,md,tw, active xover, 2 amps, soundstream 50 W class A and Phoenix gold 100 W on the rear
[22:08:31] <Jymmm> les_w I wanna hear you in Calif!
[22:08:37] <Jacky^> that was my HIFI in the car
[22:08:50] <les_w> ah...hifi enthusuast
[22:09:04] <Jacky^> active xover was alpine
[22:09:06] <les_w> you will want my $400 beryllium mid driver haha
[22:09:10] <Jymmm> les_w I got one speaker for ya.... it requires 220VAC 3ph just to power the coil alone.
[22:09:28] <Jacky^> of course I not used passive xover
[22:09:31] <les_w> haha
[22:09:39] <Jacky^> :-))
[22:09:43] <Jymmm> les_w cone not included
[22:09:48] <les_w> I sometimes use the amps in the music room to test servos
[22:09:58] <Jymmm> lol
[22:10:24] <k4ts> 0_0
[22:10:33] <Jacky^> Latest subwoofer I heard was the square Kicker, really impressed
[22:10:39] <les_w> bridged they put out about 150 volts
[22:11:06] <Jacky^> US are the best for car HIFI equipments
[22:11:16] <les_w> I must take a picture of the music room. Lots of speakers.
[22:11:23] <k4ts> also naples Jacky^
[22:11:25] <k4ts> ah ah
[22:11:31] <les_w> 42 ft^3 to be exact
[22:12:00] <Jymmm> les_w here ya go... a 300 lb speaker ---> http://www.cardomain.com/item/MTXT992244?ref=gogw4
[22:12:23] <les_w> all apart now...burned some out when an output transistor shorted
[22:12:58] <Jymmm> les_w only $8k
[22:12:59] <Jacky^> les_w: what do you prefer , mosfet, Igbt ?
[22:13:03] <Jacky^> transistor ?
[22:13:36] <Jacky^> maybe depend on the target ?
[22:13:41] <Jymmm> 2n2222
[22:13:46] <Jacky^> hahaha
[22:13:52] <SWP_Away> ok, now that 's a really funny thing:
[22:14:08] <SWP_Away> Im very pleased with the quality of the sub but find my self turning it down rather than up. I get a constant ringing in my ears and lots of pain from listening too long.
[22:14:11] <Jacky^> I build a mosfet power amplifier years ago
[22:14:23] <SWP_Away> duh - don't listen to it that loud!
[22:14:24] <les_w> most of mine are mosfet
[22:14:27] <Jacky^> using metal case (was hitachi mosfet)
[22:14:33] <Jacky^> yeah.. :)
[22:14:46] <les_w> good god lookat that driver haha
[22:14:48] <Jacky^> I also like valvle sound
[22:15:13] <les_w> I have valve guitar amps
[22:15:52] <SWP_Away> now, that sub might be good in the theater, instead of a shaker
[22:16:55] <les_w> and I thought mine were big with 2 mccauley and 3 kw
[22:16:55] <Jymmm> SWP_Away I know it was installed in a car
[22:17:03] <les_w> but that bgw is insane
[22:17:25] <SWP_Away> oh yeah - several off the comments mentioned it
[22:17:35] <SWP_Away> that doesn't make it any less stupid though ;)
[22:17:40] <les_w> oh, I have been using cardomain a lot to look at car pictures so I can decide
[22:18:32] <Jacky^> les_w: wich music yo like ?
[22:18:37] <les_w> mine put out about 96 db at 20 hz with one watt
[22:18:53] <les_w> with 3 kW, that's enough. It breaks things.
[22:19:21] <Jacky^> please try Pat Coil, Sheffield Labs :, its fantastic
[22:19:26] <les_w> jacky: old hippie. Play in rock band long ago.
[22:19:47] <les_w> Now my son is in a rock band.
[22:19:58] <Jacky^> cool
[22:20:51] <les_w> But I do not listen so loud anymore.
[22:21:17] <les_w> just checked hearing...can only hear to about 13 kHz
[22:21:20] <Jacky^> I just found Sheffield Labs produced a very good quality cd to test HIFI
[22:21:38] <Jacky^> I got about 30 CD from them :)
[22:21:48] <les_w> when I was 17 I could hear to 27 kHz
[22:22:31] <Jacky^> now ? not ?
[22:22:49] <les_w> but...13 kHz is about normal for my age really
[22:22:56] <Jacky^> :-)
[22:23:14] <k4ts> les_w: to listen only song soft?
[22:23:15] <les_w> soon...turn off the HF amps...won't need em. haha
[22:23:30] <Jacky^> I could also hear low frequency before
[22:23:46] <les_w> k4ts: when I played guitar long ago in a band it was very very loud
[22:24:10] <Jacky^> we can hear it in our soul :)
[22:24:18] <les_w> yeah
[22:35:12] <Jacky^> http://lnx.mariohifi.it/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=toprated&cat=3
[22:35:18] <Jacky^> :P
[22:48:24] <les_w> neat! sorry was talking to yaga on skype
[22:48:30] <les_w> yuga
[22:49:01] <Jacky^> nice :-)
[22:49:33] <cradek> is there a linux client for that/
[22:49:35] <cradek> ?
[22:49:52] <Jacky^> skype for Linux ?
[22:50:11] <Jacky^> sure
[22:50:18] <cradek> is it open source?
[22:50:26] <les_w> yes Paul uses skype with linux just fine
[22:50:28] <Jacky^> I think not
[22:50:39] <Jacky^> les_w: Im too
[22:51:00] <Jacky^> it work good
[22:51:12] <les_w> I save a lot of money with business calls with skype.
[22:51:27] <Jacky^> I always use it to talk to anna
[22:51:34] <les_w> very good audio quality too
[22:51:34] <cradek> I'm scared of spyware when I install non-open-source but "free" stuff
[22:51:40] <Jacky^> and .. sometime to call out in italy
[22:51:50] <Jacky^> prices are very good
[22:52:04] <les_w> yeah cradek...Paul had no problems though.
[22:52:11] <Jacky^> the only issue is we have a slower upload bandwith
[22:52:21] <les_w> And I autoclean spyware in this box.
[22:53:05] <les_w> I doubt much adware/spyware targets Linux
[22:53:21] <cradek> hi ray
[22:53:28] <les_w> hello ray
[22:53:35] <cradek> alex was looking for you earlier
[22:54:03] <Jacky^> hi rayh
[22:54:11] <rayh> Hi guys
[22:54:28] <rayh> Thanks for the heads up.
[22:54:36] <rayh> I'll hide.
[22:54:45] <cradek> rayh: I know it's useless to tell you that, but I do it anyway
[22:54:54] <les_w> heh
[22:55:06] <Jacky^> :)
[22:55:47] <rayh> rofl
[22:56:20] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as MrAsshole
[22:56:24] <rayh> Hello Jacky^ and k4ts
[22:56:31] <k4ts> ciao rayh
[22:56:31] <MrAsshole> MrAsshole is now known as Jymmm
[22:56:35] <k4ts> hello
[22:57:08] <rayh> ciao k4ts
[22:57:45] <rayh> Got a friend setting up a wood router. She was really impressed with the work that Jacky^ has on the site. Good job juys.
[22:58:15] <Jacky^> hehe , ty :)
[22:59:01] <Jymmm> which site ray?
[22:59:33] <SWP_Away> something.something.it, I think
[22:59:46] <SWP_Away> oh - http://something.something.it/
[23:00:15] <Jacky^> Jymmm: rayh is talking about my website :)
[23:00:29] <Jymmm> Jacky^ url?
[23:01:07] <Jacky^> http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/photos/lab/img010.jpeg.html
[23:01:19] <k4ts> rayh: I agreed with you
[23:01:20] <rayh> Jymmm: Jacky^ posted a link to some of his projects.
[23:01:20] <Jacky^> you already know that ..
[23:01:44] <rayh> there it is. I'm always late.
[23:02:05] <Jymmm> Jacky^ not really, sorta kinda, that's why I asked
[23:02:33] <k4ts> I like the jobs Jacky^ has done
[23:02:37] <Jymmm> Jacky^ you need to take close up's of your finished work
[23:03:55] <k4ts> Jymmm: jackyis my house a Naples
[23:04:01] <les_w> nice work.
[23:04:01] <Jacky^> Im just impatient to start working with the new machine :(
[23:04:28] <rayh> k4ts: Did you get to visit the island?
[23:04:29] <k4ts> Jacky^: is vacances
[23:04:39] <Jacky^> rayh: nope :(
[23:04:44] <Jacky^> yet ..
[23:05:06] <les_w> corsica? sardinia?
[23:05:30] <Jacky^> les_w: Capri Island, about 30 min from here
[23:05:30] <k4ts> capri
[23:05:37] <les_w> oooh
[23:05:38] <les_w> nice
[23:05:45] <k4ts> very nice
[23:05:47] <k4ts> les_w:
[23:06:07] <rayh> Darn you've got to get up earlier, Jacky^
[23:06:15] <Jacky^> thats not the only island here around
[23:06:32] <Jacky^> theres also Ischia (smallest)
[23:06:44] <Jacky^> oh.. and Procida too
[23:06:48] <Jacky^> 3 Islands
[23:07:39] <rayh> I've got one island on my lake. It's 2 meters wide and 50 meters long.
[23:07:51] <Jacky^> hehe :P
[23:07:58] <rayh> the island that is. Lake is a bit bigger.
[23:08:13] <k4ts> rayh: ah ah
[23:08:27] <les_w> henry island!
[23:08:28] <Jacky^> Capri Island is nice, but only for Vip
[23:08:37] <Jacky^> thats turistic place
[23:08:53] <Jacky^> others are cheaper :)
[23:09:10] <les_w> oh, I know ray's lake. It's callled...Superior.
[23:09:37] <rayh> Nah "Vern" island. Named for my dog who always had to get off and mark his territory.
[23:09:45] <les_w> haha
[23:10:44] <k4ts> swimming pool' rayh ?
[23:11:33] <rayh> The lake is about 200 acres. Let me look that up in a unit you might understand.
[23:11:49] <Jacky^> rayh: it is a natural lake ?
[23:12:08] <rayh> Yes it is.
[23:12:15] <Jacky^> cool
[23:12:24] <les_w> actually I may be up at miller in a little while grabbing consulting work. I'ts in Appleton
[23:12:33] <les_w> hate the paper mill smell though.
[23:13:06] <rayh> Ah. Yes the fox valley smell.
[23:13:25] <les_w> fine when the wind blows right
[23:13:28] <rayh> roltec is just out of milwaukee
[23:13:58] <rayh> Worked in a sawmill next to a paper mill.
[23:14:09] <rayh> when the wind was wrong it would make you sick to your stomach.
[23:14:37] <les_w> they ought to clean that up. Fox valley is otherwise very nice
[23:14:50] <Jacky^> rayh: this is Capri http://www.spaghettitaliani.com/Foto/Foto000076.html
[23:14:58] <rayh> It is beautiful in places.
[23:15:14] <Jacky^> just the east side of the sland
[23:15:52] <Jacky^> looks like a wild island
[23:15:58] <les_w> wow
[23:16:01] <les_w> very nice
[23:16:07] <Jacky^> yeah :)
[23:16:09] <rayh> Can't take pictures around here now. It's all white.
[23:17:25] <Jacky^> les_w: http://www.spaghettitaliani.com/Foto/Foto000077.html
[23:17:38] <rayh> Do they allow climbing on those rocks?
[23:17:49] <Jacky^> I just hope to go there for a day before comes back to my home ..
[23:17:59] <SWP_Away> It looks like you need to ask the rocks, not the government ;)
[23:18:30] <rayh> you saw that also eh SWP_Away
[23:18:51] <Jacky^> rayh: I think is possible to climb it too :)
[23:18:52] <SWP_Away> yup
[23:19:01] <rayh> I climbed on three fingered jack in oregon.
[23:19:14] <rayh> looked a lot like that sort of loose rock.
[23:19:31] <Jacky^> some beach area is vips reserved during the summer
[23:20:41] <k4ts> jacky go his home!
[23:20:43] <k4ts> sigh
[23:21:01] <Jacky^> as well, many house there are of peoples as soccer players, singer, actors, etc.. :/
[23:21:11] <les_w> well, I must prepare dinner
[23:21:14] <les_w> later all
[23:21:24] <k4ts> good dinner
[23:21:25] <Jacky^> later les_w
[23:21:26] <k4ts> les_w:
[23:21:29] <les_w> ty
[23:22:45] <Jymmm> les_w: I'll be right over for dinner, anything I should bring?
[23:23:29] <Jacky^> a good drink :P
[23:23:47] <k4ts> dolci
[23:23:55] <k4ts> plum cake
[23:23:57] <Jacky^> a good californian wine , I know you got it there :)
[23:24:05] <Jacky^> hehe
[23:24:08] <Jymmm> * Jymmm doens't drink wine
[23:24:09] <Jacky^> kidding
[23:24:17] <Jacky^> ;P
[23:24:28] <Jacky^> good dinner
[23:24:37] <SWP_Away> just have some berries with cream and Mascobado sugar sprinkled on top
[23:24:57] <SWP_Away> for dessert, that is
[23:27:30] <k4ts> http://www.ndonio.it/Napoli%20dolci.htm
[23:27:51] <rayh> catch you all later.
[23:27:55] <SWP_Away> see ya
[23:27:57] <Jacky^> bye rayh
[23:28:26] <k4ts> http://www.sfogliatella.it/
[23:46:20] <Jacky^> G night
[23:56:18] <k4ts> night