#emc | Logs for 2005-11-08

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[00:57:30] <jblunzen> neevning
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[01:07:44] <cncuser> better
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[10:15:32] <Jacky^> http://www.sjdjweis.com/david/pix/servers/penguin.jpg
[10:15:37] <Jacky^> :P
[10:16:56] <Jacky^> http://vibeke.schou.dk/artwork/woodwork/penguin.jpg
[11:42:40] <richo> hi everyone :)
[11:43:02] <richo> how did the developers meeting go yesterday?
[12:49:01] <anonimasu> hi
[13:57:15] <jepler_> good morning #emc
[14:07:11] <les_w> morning jeff
[14:08:14] <jepler_> hi les!
[14:10:38] <les_w> another day, another dollar. I have to do some "microsurgery" on some sensors under the microscope.
[14:10:46] <les_w> easy on the coffee for me.
[15:38:33] <les_w> looking forward to seeing till's code huh ken?
[15:57:47] <lerman> les_w: Well, I read the paper and could more or less follow it, though I suspect I would screw up the details of the delays if I tried to implement it. Right now, I'd just like to get emc2 built so that I could run it. One of the things I hate about those 'meetings' like yesterday is that I find myself making commitments that I really shouldn't. (Although, I didn't commit a date, if it is...
[15:57:48] <lerman> ...going to get done, it should be sooner rather than later.) I suspect that it should only take a few hours to put my interpreter changes into the emc2 source.
[16:11:37] <les_w> Yeah...I have to concentrate more on the TP since I now have an expensive spindle that I cannot fully use.
[16:11:52] <les_w> Here's the deal (I think):
[16:12:24] <les_w> We #ifdeffed out a segment that had a horrible math error
[16:12:25] <les_w> but
[16:13:00] <les_w> that part is specifically needed to allow proper velocity adaptation.
[16:13:27] <les_w> Need to find the bad math rather than just #ifdef it all out
[16:13:42] <les_w> I think I'll call Fred on that one.
[16:21:32] <cradek> les_w: I bet I could fix it if I had a description, like we have for segmentqueue, of what's supposed to be happening. If they wrote it looking at some paper or book, I'd love to know what it is.
[16:41:09] <les_w> chris: I'll call fred and ask.
[16:46:08] <SWPadnos> les_w, where's the ifdef'd portion? (what file)
[16:49:01] <alex_joni> evening
[16:49:11] <SWPadnos> morning, Alex
[16:49:17] <alex_joni> [18:10] <SWPadnos> morning, Alex
[16:49:19] <alex_joni> right :)
[16:49:31] <Jymmm> Morning alex_joni
[16:49:58] <alex_joni> hey Jymmm
[16:49:58] <SWPadnos> see :P
[16:50:03] <alex_joni> lerman's you around?
[16:50:10] <Jymmm> Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Vietnam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[16:50:41] <SWPadnos> well - it's a hot day out there, but it's a dry heat, the kind that makes your balls itch, you know what I mean?
[16:50:58] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: no, but don't get into details
[16:51:19] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Are you sure that's the environment causing that condition of yours?
[16:51:19] <SWPadnos> heh - just (nearly) quoting a movie :)
[16:51:30] <SWPadnos> I have no itch.
[16:51:36] <Jymmm> Uh Huh...
[16:51:51] <SWPadnos> well - there's one itch, but I need none of your help with that.
[16:52:19] <Jymmm> You won't even get your gf's help with that till the green puss is gone.
[16:52:43] <lerman> Lerman is back.
[16:53:18] <SWPadnos> My gf won't help, but my wife may :)
[16:53:23] <alex_joni> hello.. was just composing an answer
[16:53:28] <alex_joni> but this makes it easier
[16:53:43] <alex_joni> lerman: it seems to me that it's an RTAI problem
[16:53:52] <alex_joni> what else did you run on this system?
[16:53:54] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Maybe it was your gf that gave you the green puss.
[16:54:13] <alex_joni> or is it a new install?
[16:54:26] <lerman> Just EMC(1)
[16:54:34] <alex_joni> ok.. so that runs ok?
[16:54:49] <alex_joni> did you try the rtai tests?
[16:55:10] <alex_joni> never mind if you don't know where those are...
[16:55:12] <lerman> Well, it did last time I tried it. -- Although it seems to go down overnight.
[16:55:14] <lerman> What rtai tests?
[16:55:21] <alex_joni> ok.. ;-)
[16:55:31] <alex_joni> can you try some commands?
[16:55:57] <lerman> Sure... As long as I can do them from a remote login.
[16:56:04] <alex_joni> sure you can..
[16:56:17] <alex_joni> if/when scripts/realtime will start, emc2 will run
[16:56:40] <alex_joni> ok.. first make sure there's no realtime started (use lsmod to look at current modules)
[16:57:13] <lerman> Well, rtai_math is running, but unused.
[16:57:23] <alex_joni> rmmod it
[16:57:38] <alex_joni> same for adeos (if there is such a module)
[16:58:00] <lerman> OK.
[16:58:01] <lerman> No adeos.
[16:58:16] <alex_joni> ok.. so no more rt* modules in the kernel
[16:58:28] <alex_joni> maybe rtl8139 ,)
[16:58:38] <alex_joni> but rtai_* shouldn't be there..
[16:58:48] <lerman> -su-2.05b# lsmod | grep rt
[16:58:52] <lerman> parport 22144 0 [lp]
[16:58:52] <lerman> agpgart 41604 7
[16:58:53] <lerman> rtc 7228 0 (autoclean)
[16:58:55] <lerman> -su-2.05b#
[16:58:56] <lerman> -----------
[16:59:00] <alex_joni> ok.. sounds good enough
[16:59:08] <alex_joni> now try insmod adeos
[16:59:25] <lerman> -su-2.05b# insmod adeos
[16:59:26] <lerman> Using /lib/modules/2.4.25-adeos/kernel/adeos/adeos.o
[17:00:03] <alex_joni> hrmmm... could you check that it's the same version (file size) than /usr/realtime/modules/ ?
[17:06:31] <alex_joni> lerman: probably now emc could run (you probably want to change tkemc to usermot to allow it to work over ssh)
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> lerman:if you didn't export X over the ssh tunnel..
[17:06:32] <lerman> There is no /usr/realtime/modules/ad*
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> that's odd...
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> did you touch /usr/realtime/* ? or it came with BDI-Live?
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> I assume you're running rc46
[17:06:32] <lerman> I didn't touch it. How can I tell if I'm running rc46?
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> you should remember what you installed :D
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> but it's morphix..and rc46 is the only BDI I know that's morphix based
[17:06:32] <lerman> No.... Systems should identify themselves.
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> bdi-2.xx doesn't qualify (too old)
[17:06:32] <lerman> I just did a script/realtime start and it ran without error.
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> bdi-4.xx is 2.6 based
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> lerman: seems it's a problem with the adeos module
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> copy that to /usr/realtime/modules/
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> not sure why it's missing ...
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> isn't adeos compiled into the kernel?
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> alternative 2: Makefile.inc should read /lib/modules/2.4.25-adeos/kernel/adeos/ as the module dir
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: not always, depends on the preference
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> -bash-2.05b$ cat /proc/version
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> Linux version 2.4.25-adeos (root@Morphix) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> (Debian prerelease)) #1 Wed Mar 31 12:50:23 UTC 2004
[17:06:32] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: same one
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> (that's a paste from lerman's email
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> )
[17:06:32] <SWPadnos> but doesn't that imply that adeos is in there?
[17:07:08] <alex_joni> nope.. it doesn't
[17:07:18] <SWPadnos> OK - nevermind :)
[17:07:20] <alex_joni> it implies that the kernel has the adeos patch applied
[17:07:42] <alex_joni> but furtheron the adeos part can be either compiled in or used as a module
[17:07:45] <SWPadnos> sure, I guess I never noticed that there's a separate adeos module to load
[17:07:52] <alex_joni> * alex_joni prefers to compile it in the kernel
[17:07:56] <SWPadnos> ah - I guess I always included it
[17:08:00] <alex_joni> yes
[17:08:32] <alex_joni> lerman: re (version you have).. you should talk to paul about that
[17:08:39] <alex_joni> * alex_joni had nothing to do with the BDI
[17:08:47] <alex_joni> yet I am happy if I can help out on problems
[17:08:56] <alex_joni> alex_joni is now known as alex_joni_away
[17:09:02] <SWPadnos> On a slightly different topic, lerman - you may want to remove the parport module. I think thius was causing some problems with parallel port machines (cups would reset the port in the middle of the night)
[17:09:47] <lerman> I copied adeos.o there. rmmod all of the rtmodules and did a scripts/realtime start and it worked.
[17:09:48] <SWPadnos> I don't remember the exact fix, but I think you had to remove any printing-related stuff from crontab
[17:10:15] <SWPadnos> cool. Does "it" mean emc2, or realtime/start?
[17:11:05] <lerman> I thought I had removed it, but I rebooted since then and it appears that I did not do everything necessary to keep parport out. realtime/start worked. I'm going out to the shop now to try emc2. Thanks for the help.
[17:11:28] <SWPadnos> no problem (in case I helped at all :) )
[17:15:43] <lerman> YES! Thanks to SWPadnos and alex_joni -- emc2 runs. And puts up screens that don't look at all familiar. But I assume that I can use tkemc with it once I properly edit sim.ini.
[17:16:00] <SWPadnos> you should be able to.
[17:16:21] <SWPadnos> In fact, if you use remote X or vnc, you can do so from the comfort of the inside of your home (or office) :)
[17:19:35] <lerman> Yes. My family room desktop runs windoze (that' where I am now and do most of my work). My main office machine is pretty slow, is my server, and runs linux. The shop machine is in the garage. I guess I should setup vnc to work, but I haven't bothered with it yet.
[17:19:50] <SWPadnos> cygwin-X works nicely
[17:20:20] <SWPadnos> there's a wiki page titled something like "Viewing EMC on Windows"
[17:20:53] <SWPadnos> ah - here it is: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMCDisplayOnWindows
[17:22:48] <SWPadnos> I have a similar "problem". My main work machine runs Windows, and has 3 monitors. The emc box has an 800x600 LCD - nowhere enough real estate for development work. I use Cygwin-X and can run all of the devtools (I've run QT and KDE Designer, Kate, etc), and also EMC.
[17:23:24] <SWPadnos> It was pretty cool the first time I saw the axis positions change on the Windows machine :)
[17:27:22] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: you mean running dual GUI's ?
[17:27:40] <SWPadnos> not necessarily, though that works too
[17:28:03] <Jymmm> Yeah, I ran keystick on the emc box, and minimill on the win box
[17:28:26] <SWPadnos> you can do multiple *G*uis, you know :)
[17:28:45] <Jymmm> I didn't want X running on the emc box
[17:29:04] <SWPadnos> I've even had multiple displays on the windows machine (one that I was developing, which was just a DRO, plus tkemc)
[17:29:23] <SWPadnos> what are the specs of your emc machine?
[17:29:34] <Jymmm> ThinkPad =)
[17:29:45] <SWPadnos> well - in that case - nevermind.
[17:29:49] <Jymmm> forget the model#, but for $85 who cares! lol
[17:30:20] <Jymmm> it has emc, XP and dos tribooting on it
[17:30:37] <SWPadnos> ugh
[17:31:19] <Jymmm> no ug, works nicely
[17:32:49] <SWPadnos> I've also got a laptop that dual-boots, but it's a pretty powerful one (for 5 years ago, anyway)
[17:33:40] <Jymmm> Well, if I REALLY cared, I'd use my Fuji Laptop.... P4 2.8GHz w/ 768MB serial and paraport
[17:36:06] <Jymmm> But I dont do testing/playing on that box...
[17:36:32] <SWPadnos> heh
[17:36:52] <SWPadnos> gotta run - be back later.
[17:36:57] <Jymmm> cya
[17:52:55] <SWPadnos> SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away
[19:26:21] <les_w> awfully nice here...fall colors, clear blue sky, 70 degrees. Takeing a walk for a break from work.
[19:28:58] <rayh> Fantastic. I really liked the fall colors here this year.
[19:29:18] <rayh> Maxine and I went for a three mill through the woods on Sat.
[19:29:42] <rayh> Leaves are all gone. Tamarac are bright yellow/orange.
[19:44:42] <lerman> les_w: Are you taking a walk for a break from work at the same time as you typed that? :-) BTW: where are you located?
[19:49:40] <les_w> Ken, just got back. Located in the blue ridge mountains at the georgia north carolina border.
[19:51:38] <les_w> But back to work. Suits coming day after tomorrow. Seeking continued research funding, and I have to get a gizmo ready for them to take back.
[20:46:52] <alex_joni_away> evening
[20:47:02] <Jacky^> hi alex_joni_away
[20:47:14] <alex_joni_away> alex_joni_away is now known as alex_joni
[20:47:15] <Jacky^> sure away ?
[20:47:17] <Jacky^> heheh
[20:47:19] <Jacky^> :D
[20:47:21] <alex_joni> * alex_joni just came back
[20:57:05] <alex_joni> so. what did I miss?
[20:58:03] <Jacky^> :)
[20:58:20] <Jacky^> nothing.
[20:58:24] <Jymmm> les_w: Dont forget the doohickey and the whatchamacallit
[20:58:35] <Jacky^> hey Jymmm you alive ? :P
[20:59:04] <Jymmm> Jacky^: No, please leave a message at the exorcism
[20:59:09] <Jacky^> hahaha
[20:59:11] <Jacky^> ok
[20:59:20] <alex_joni> hey Jymmm
[21:00:08] <Jymmm> howdy alex_joni
[21:00:19] <alex_joni> morning Jymmm
[21:01:00] <Jymmm> alex_joni : G'Afternoon =)
[21:01:16] <alex_joni> if you wish...
[21:01:26] <Jymmm> Man, having such a hard time finding tooling < 1/8"
[21:01:43] <Jymmm> 1/16" would be very nice.
[21:01:54] <Jacky^> alex_joni: apt-get install ntpdate
[21:01:56] <Jacky^> :/
[21:02:05] <cradek> 1/16 end mills with 1/8 shank are very standard
[21:02:10] <Jacky^> Jymmm: is eating a cow :P
[21:02:15] <Jacky^> at this time
[21:02:19] <Jymmm> cradek: single flute?
[21:02:52] <cradek> no, I don't know anything about single flute tools
[21:03:29] <Jymmm> cradek: Most of what I have seen the CEL is really shallow.
[21:04:20] <Jymmm> Eh, I got a call into Onsrud. We'll see what they have to say.
[21:05:40] <Jymmm> In the meantime... I'll just play around with some polycarb and see if that resolves the issues.... "HELP ME... I'm m e l t i n g!"
[21:06:15] <Imperator_> Hi Alex
[21:06:19] <alex_joni> Hey Martin
[21:06:48] <Imperator_> hehe, got my PCBs
[21:07:22] <alex_joni> coo
[21:07:29] <Imperator_> but have forgotten to order the components :-)
[21:07:37] <alex_joni> did u read the devel list?
[21:07:44] <Jacky^> ;P
[21:07:46] <Imperator_> a bit
[21:08:11] <Imperator_> on which topic do you want to focus
[21:08:12] <alex_joni> that Markus guy.. working on a portal
[21:08:30] <Imperator_> yes
[21:08:50] <Imperator_> Till said this half a year ago in the users list
[21:08:52] <alex_joni> sounds very much like what you want/need
[21:09:02] <Imperator_> don't know if it depends on EMC
[21:09:03] <alex_joni> but it'll be available next year only ...
[21:09:08] <alex_joni> it is done with emc
[21:09:59] <Imperator_> while i was waiting for the PCBs i lookt a bit into the code, to find the places which need to be changed
[21:10:33] <Imperator_> i need a very clever idea, otherwhise i have to edid a lot
[21:10:41] <Imperator_> edit
[21:11:16] <Imperator_> the motion controller has a lot of states, if i forgott one, the machine is dead
[21:11:39] <alex_joni> Imperator_: have an idea of what you want to do?
[21:11:48] <Imperator_> maybe i do the most in do_homing and output to hal
[21:12:09] <Imperator_> let me knwo
[21:12:12] <Imperator_> know
[21:12:17] <alex_joni> and during normal running, just slave the two axes?
[21:12:26] <Imperator_> jep
[21:12:32] <alex_joni> you probably need to touch trivkins
[21:12:46] <alex_joni> also the ferror code (to add abserror)
[21:12:49] <Imperator_> and take care of the difference between them, like folowing error
[21:12:55] <alex_joni> right
[21:13:11] <alex_joni> hmm.. that might be easy to do...
[21:13:16] <alex_joni> how do you like this idea:
[21:13:24] <alex_joni> you have position-set to axis 1
[21:13:27] <Imperator_> that can be done i output_to_hal and check_faults
[21:13:37] <alex_joni> position-is 1 = position-set 2
[21:13:50] <alex_joni> position-is 2
[21:14:09] <alex_joni> and position-set1 and position-is2 is used for ferrors
[21:15:05] <Jymmm> Heh... need to pickup some spare spreader clamps to CYA =)
[21:15:19] <alex_joni> Imperator_: get my point?
[21:15:29] <Imperator_> jep
[21:15:37] <alex_joni> to compute ferror for the portal from the max. distance
[21:15:39] <Imperator_> its just coping
[21:16:09] <Imperator_> that can be done in check_softlimits
[21:16:17] <Imperator_> hi John
[21:16:22] <jmkasunich> hi
[21:16:27] <alex_joni> ohh.. john, hello ;)
[21:16:36] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich hides
[21:16:36] <alex_joni> big question to you :D
[21:16:40] <Imperator_> jmkasunich: perfect time to join :-)
[21:16:41] <alex_joni> yeah.. quick ..
[21:16:48] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes first
[21:16:51] <Imperator_> :-)
[21:16:55] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: make install
[21:17:00] <alex_joni> for emc2
[21:17:03] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich runs away
[21:17:06] <alex_joni> I have a version I really find ok
[21:17:11] <jmkasunich> wow
[21:17:14] <Jymmm> * Jymmm hands jmkasunich a jet pack
[21:17:17] <alex_joni> it's only administrative and CVS stuff I want to ask
[21:17:21] <jmkasunich> ok
[21:17:23] <alex_joni> so don't run just yet
[21:17:28] <ValarQ> * ValarQ skips and jumps
[21:17:36] <alex_joni> the code was in a branch (autoconf_install_0_1)
[21:17:46] <alex_joni> it was working... last time I touched it
[21:17:48] <Jymmm> * Jymmm give ValarQ his medication
[21:18:03] <alex_joni> now. in the meantime most of emc2 changed a lot
[21:18:10] <jmkasunich> right
[21:18:14] <alex_joni> the diff from the branch and HEAD is about 1.6MB
[21:18:17] <ValarQ> * ValarQ sits still on his chair and smiles
[21:18:18] <jmkasunich> merging would be truly messy
[21:18:31] <Jymmm> Damn... wrong medication
[21:18:35] <alex_joni> the biggest problem is that a lot of files (most involved in the change) have been moved
[21:18:55] <alex_joni> I checked out a clean HEAD, and reaplied all changes
[21:19:03] <ValarQ> Jymmm: everything looks so cosmic now
[21:19:06] <alex_joni> now.. where should I commit that?
[21:19:21] <alex_joni> back to the branch? then probably all files will be different
[21:19:27] <Jymmm> ValarQ: Better enjoy it... that was my last one and ... it was for me!!!
[21:19:38] <alex_joni> that would probably be messy when merging back to HEAD..
[21:19:40] <jmkasunich> 1) did anything you do change the functionality when it is not installed (just make and run)?
[21:19:45] <alex_joni> yes
[21:19:53] <alex_joni> that was the first point I started from
[21:20:01] <jmkasunich> what changed?
[21:20:10] <Jacky^> hi jmkasunich
[21:20:11] <alex_joni> it's a different run script that gets installed
[21:20:29] <alex_joni> and the run script gets adapted by configure
[21:20:55] <alex_joni> also minor changes to the tcl code (to be able to find emcsh on an installed system)
[21:21:22] <jmkasunich> skipping the details, I guess what I'm asking is: will anyone who is currently using EMC2 by the "make and run locally" method gonna get busted if you commit to HEAD?
[21:21:26] <Jacky^> jmkasunich: good work
[21:21:44] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: not to my knowledge, and not according to my tests
[21:21:56] <jmkasunich> then commit to head, and forget the branch
[21:22:04] <jmkasunich> it has served its purpose
[21:22:12] <alex_joni> ok.. the Makefile will have make install commented out for now
[21:22:27] <alex_joni> and only who really needs to test it will try it
[21:22:34] <jmkasunich> ok, sounds good
[21:22:43] <alex_joni> btw, I did make an emc2 deb package out of the make install ;)
[21:22:43] <jmkasunich> one thing, if you don't mind...
[21:22:54] <alex_joni> well.. with the help of make install is more appropiate
[21:23:00] <alex_joni> sure...
[21:23:10] <jmkasunich> either add another section to directory.map, or make a new file called install.map, that shows where things go
[21:23:20] <alex_joni> that's already in cvs
[21:23:33] <alex_joni> you need to keep up with the changes :D
[21:23:34] <jmkasunich> and your work matches it? (those things tend to get out of date)
[21:23:44] <alex_joni> I just updated it a few days ago
[21:23:49] <jmkasunich> great!
[21:23:51] <alex_joni> and added the make install part
[21:24:12] <alex_joni> also touched abot 30 files last night (added the same header to all)
[21:24:17] <alex_joni> hope you don't mind..
[21:24:18] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich is reading Matt's declaration of surrender...
[21:24:21] <lerman> alex_joni: and others who might know: is the interpreter file rs274_errors.cc (in emc2) generated manually or automatically?
[21:24:23] <jmkasunich> saw that
[21:24:41] <jmkasunich> some of the comment lines should be touched up, I'll work on that a little
[21:24:45] <alex_joni> lerman: think it was generated manually... but I have little idea about interp
[21:24:58] <jmkasunich> old line: This file, foo.c, does blah, blah
[21:25:00] <jmkasunich> new:
[21:25:02] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: lerman is the youngest emc2 user :D
[21:25:04] <jmkasunich> filename: foo.c
[21:25:14] <jmkasunich> this file, foo.c, does blah, blah
[21:25:34] <jmkasunich> since the previous line has the filename, the sentence should be changed to simply say "does blah blah"
[21:25:42] <alex_joni> ok.. suit yourself.. :)
[21:25:52] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich is nitpicky sometimes
[21:25:58] <alex_joni> * alex_joni lost it after 2 hours of copy/paste through the sources :D
[21:26:22] <alex_joni> lots of concetration is needed in order to remember what you just did :)
[21:26:23] <jmkasunich> I can understand that ;-)
[21:26:41] <jmkasunich> but getting the standard headers in there is a good thing, so thanks
[21:27:13] <alex_joni> ok.. so I'll commit the make install stuff
[21:27:20] <alex_joni> and maybe the debian stuff too
[21:27:40] <alex_joni> although I have little knowledge of that yet :D
[21:27:58] <alex_joni> but I am very proud to have built emc2-0.0.1-i386.deb
[21:28:57] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/emc/emc2/directory.map?rev=1.21&view=markup
[21:30:09] <jmkasunich> damn... you've been very busy!
[21:30:30] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: well..gotta catch up on your work on the mazak :)
[21:30:57] <jmkasunich> I really should do some documentation there, before I forget it all
[21:32:21] <alex_joni> yup.. did you follow: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BoardElection ?
[21:32:39] <jmkasunich> not looked at it since Thursday
[21:32:46] <jmkasunich> did see the nominations of Matt and Paul
[21:32:59] <jmkasunich> (on the list)
[21:33:01] <alex_joni> matt accepted, paul didn't
[21:55:10] <jmkasunich> do we have someone to send out the ballots? do they need help or info from me (or anyone else who remembers how the last ballot was run)
[21:55:23] <jmkasunich> do they need a list of email addresses from me or another list admin?
[21:56:33] <cradek> I put explicit instructions for updating AXIS / bdi4.30 on axis.unpy.net and updated the README in AXIS cvs.
[21:58:10] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: matt convinced chris to do it again this year
[21:58:22] <alex_joni> I sent him(matt) the email list
[21:58:51] <jmkasunich> I didn't know you had the list, you are an admin too?
[21:59:19] <alex_joni> * alex_joni grins :D
[22:00:20] <fenn> should I tell that other guy that we don't need his help with the ballots?
[22:00:51] <alex_joni> fenn.. guess so, but keep a backup open :D
[23:04:40] <CIA-6> 03alex_joni * 10emc2/ (13 files in 5 dirs): added make install target, changed some files to allow that, run-in place should still work. needs some testing,, for now the make install target is commented out
[23:14:21] <Jacky^> g night
[23:20:06] <CIA-6> 03alex_joni * 10emc2/scripts/install.run.in: added the install.run.in script. this one gets modified by configure, and installed during make install.
[23:32:57] <alex_joni> hmm.. this is a nice machine to control with emc :)
[23:33:00] <alex_joni> http://www.lemonzoo.com/funny_videos/504/cool_racing_simulator.html
[23:43:22] <Jymmm> you named a box 'bald' ?!
[23:43:23] <Jymmm> lol
[23:52:28] <dmess> high all..