#emc | Logs for 2005-10-04

[00:41:57] <Jymmm> * Jymmm pokes les...
[06:59:04] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
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[08:34:38] <anonimasu> morning
[08:56:29] <anonimasu> hm..
[08:56:33] <anonimasu> I threw a mail on a edm
[08:56:39] <anonimasu> for about 1200$
[08:59:30] <anonimasu> Hej, Jag �r intresserad av gnisten, Hur stor �r h�jden p� transormatorn, och hur mycket pengar har du t�nkt dig f�r gnisten?
[08:59:34] <anonimasu> whoops
[10:57:50] <Jacky^> morning
[11:07:12] <CIA-8> 03paul_c * 10emc2-auto/wiki/ (16 files in 10 dirs): Auto update wiki from a cron job. Tue Oct 4 10:42:01 BST 2005
[11:22:00] <anonimasu> morning
[11:24:28] <anonimasu> hello alex
[11:24:35] <alex_joni> hey anders
[11:26:30] <Jacky^> hello
[11:27:47] <Jacky^> alex_joni: i get stegen type 1 running with an L298
[11:27:59] <alex_joni> nice
[11:28:16] <CIA-8> 03paul_c * 10CVSROOT/loginfo: Improve on the filtering rule
[11:28:21] <Jacky^> the prob i've now, dc motor it dont have torque
[11:28:53] <Jacky^> i tried to change PID parameters from calibration window, but it wont take it
[11:29:18] <Jacky^> and , in the ini file seem there are no PID valiables to set
[11:29:24] <Jacky^> where are ?
[11:29:48] <alex_joni> Jacky^: first make sure the motor actually has more torque
[11:29:57] <Jacky^> alex_joni: im sure
[11:30:34] <Jacky^> the motor run ok with the driver if i use IN input with a supply
[11:31:00] <Jacky^> pseudo-pwm , instead seem just 1 volt or smallest ..
[11:31:07] <alex_joni> like I said, L298 is not ok for DC motors
[11:31:15] <Jacky^> no ..
[11:31:18] <Jacky^> listen
[11:31:31] <CIA-8> 03paul_c * 10emc2-auto/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Add note about log mail filtering.
[11:31:35] <Jacky^> if i connect the input pin of the driver it run ok
[11:31:42] <Jacky^> with thr right torque
[11:31:54] <Jacky^> pwm from emc seem not enough ..
[11:32:04] <alex_joni> you don't have PWM from emc
[11:32:13] <Jacky^> emc2*
[11:32:14] <alex_joni> emc's output is stepping
[11:32:19] <alex_joni> emc2, whatever
[11:32:44] <Jacky^> oh ..
[11:32:52] <Jacky^> thats the prob ?
[11:33:03] <alex_joni> the problem is you have too mcuh spare time
[11:33:25] <Jacky^> ghgghgh
[11:33:27] <Jacky^> O_O
[11:33:33] <Jacky^> not really ..
[11:34:06] <CIA-8> 03paul_c * 10documents/scratch.txt: Is the dog barking as it should...
[11:34:48] <Jacky^> anonimasu: are you using servos with emc2 ?
[11:35:30] <Jacky^> step-dir input ?
[11:35:48] <alex_joni> there are very few step-dir servos
[11:36:00] <alex_joni> if you want servo, you go with -10 - 10V analog
[11:36:02] <alex_joni> and PID tuning
[11:36:12] <alex_joni> then you need a STG or Motenc
[11:36:12] <Jacky^> gecko should be one if i remember well
[11:36:15] <alex_joni> right
[11:36:26] <alex_joni> but that's a interm. solution
[11:36:32] <alex_joni> not that I would say it's not ok
[11:37:02] <Jacky^> i eard some driver in worrking progress on emc2
[11:37:50] <Jacky^> I know ..
[11:38:50] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is/was working on stg
[11:38:58] <alex_joni> but I haven't done anything the last few weeks
[11:39:08] <Jacky^> alex_joni: cool
[11:39:20] <Jacky^> are the only one working on it ?
[11:39:56] <alex_joni> probably
[11:40:03] <Jacky^> :\
[11:40:17] <Jacky^> thats i dont like ..
[11:41:49] <Jacky^> any peoples here seem have his 'personal' project
[11:41:54] <Jacky^> its hard so ..
[11:42:15] <Jacky^> and anyone is working on a different project
[11:42:19] <Jacky^> :(
[11:43:05] <alex_joni> well.. the alternative would be to not work at all
[11:43:13] <Jacky^> nah ..
[11:43:32] <Jacky^> a better organizzation
[11:43:41] <Jacky^> should be much better
[11:45:15] <anonimasu> hm..
[11:45:33] <Jacky^> anonimasu: :)
[11:45:45] <Jacky^> how are going your servos ?
[11:45:49] <Jacky^> ok ?
[11:47:54] <Jacky^> * Jacky^ go out to buy cigarettes .. later
[11:55:23] <alex_joni> hey paul_c
[11:58:50] <paul_c> Hi Alx
[11:59:09] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is really tired :/
[12:02:34] <paul_c> * paul_c is improving the cvsup script
[12:02:45] <alex_joni> nice
[12:02:55] <alex_joni> * alex_joni wouldn't have the energy it takes to think right now
[12:27:16] <paul_c> \o/ A new toy to play with...
[13:49:28] <Ircaddict> good morning
[13:49:44] <alex_joni> good day
[13:49:48] <alex_joni> [15:20] <alex_joni> good day
[13:50:19] <Ircaddict> er, yeah, forgot about those :P
[13:55:35] <anonimasu> Jacky^: what?
[13:55:44] <anonimasu> well brb.
[13:55:47] <anonimasu> need to head to the bank
[14:29:28] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes away
[16:52:23] <Jymmm> les
[16:56:39] <Jymmm> Wild hair up my ass.... "IDE cnc controller" or even 'FDD CNC Controller' not like we have a B DRIVE anymore =)
[16:57:01] <alex_joni> lol
[16:57:03] <alex_joni> hey Jymmm
[16:57:19] <Jymmm> hi alex_joni
[16:57:27] <alex_joni> no more jello :
[16:57:27] <Jymmm> should be fast too
[16:57:49] <Jymmm> what are you learning?
[16:59:58] <Jymmm> alex_joni : what are you learning?
[17:00:04] <alex_joni> not learning anymore :D
[17:00:07] <alex_joni> * alex_joni gave up
[17:00:10] <alex_joni> j/k
[17:00:12] <Jymmm> alex_joni : what were you learning?
[17:00:21] <alex_joni> still learning for IWE (International Welding Engineer)
[17:00:37] <Jymmm> hands on or written part?
[17:01:26] <Jymmm> alex_joni: hands on or written part?
[17:02:56] <alex_joni> how do you mean that?
[17:03:15] <alex_joni> mostly written (if you mean the exam)
[17:03:19] <alex_joni> exams to be more accurate
[17:03:32] <Jymmm> are you learning the textbook or hands-on ?
[17:03:44] <alex_joni> textbook
[17:03:49] <alex_joni> lots of it ;)
[17:04:11] <Jymmm> ah
[17:05:19] <jepler> cradek: in xemc, the behavior of "limit override" seems to be the same as in axis. It turns off after the next jog is complete.
[17:07:28] <jepler> but in emc1/simulator I can jog past the (soft?) limits anyway
[17:07:48] <jepler> without ever pressing the override buttons
[17:07:48] <alex_joni> jepler: that shouldn't be possible :/
[17:09:05] <Jymmm> unless the softlimit values are off
[17:09:33] <Jymmm> 24 feet instead of 24 inches =)
[17:15:14] <jepler> If I enter 'g0x20' in mdi, I get "linear move -NN out of range", but if I hold cursor right I eventually get to x=20
[17:16:36] <cradek> is your limit exactly 20?
[17:16:45] <cradek> if so, I've seen that behavior
[17:17:02] <cradek> so I set my limit to e.g. 20.001
[17:18:01] <jepler> no, I can go way beyond 20
[17:18:41] <cradek> you're probably not homed
[17:18:42] <jepler> [AXIS_0]
[17:18:45] <jepler> MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
[17:18:48] <cradek> limits aren't in effect until you home
[17:18:49] <jepler> oh yeah, I'm not homed.
[17:19:01] <jepler> I never bother homing in the simulator
[17:19:06] <alex_joni> heh
[17:19:12] <alex_joni> this is a strange behaviour
[17:19:24] <alex_joni> at least on my robots, I cannot do carth. moves without homing
[17:19:34] <alex_joni> and they are limited to 25% speed till homed
[17:19:41] <alex_joni> to be sage
[17:19:43] <alex_joni> safe
[17:20:41] <jepler> once I've homed, then I can't go beyond 10.0 by jogging, even if I use "limit override". but maybe I still don't understand what "limit override" is supposed to do.
[17:21:11] <Jymmm> I'm getting ready to make a base plate for my router with a grid of holes, any suggestions on some (dowel) pins that have some sort of head on them?
[17:21:35] <Jymmm> Plus, I still need to come up with some type of cam clamping.
[17:21:53] <cradek> jepler: I think it might not work (but I admit I didn't try tkemc)
[17:22:09] <cradek> jepler: when I tried it, it wanted to turn off by itself whenever I jogged
[17:22:28] <alex_joni> jepler: afaik "limit override" is used to jog off limits(during homing)
[17:22:31] <alex_joni> not after that
[17:22:54] <alex_joni> but as far as I know you can jog only away from the limit, (not to go further off the limit)
[17:23:14] <cradek> ah
[17:23:22] <cradek> so it's particular to limit *switches*
[17:23:26] <cradek> not soft limits
[17:23:28] <alex_joni> I think so
[17:23:34] <alex_joni> hardware limits iirc
[17:23:44] <cradek> darn, that's not what I want at all
[17:23:53] <alex_joni> it was done in order to be able to home with hard limits too
[17:23:59] <alex_joni> if you don't have a homing switch
[17:24:13] <alex_joni> but.. again, I might be wrong
[17:24:26] <cradek> well, that would explain it not doing what I want.
[17:24:42] <Jymmm> cradek what did you want it to do?
[17:24:43] <alex_joni> a documented bug is a feature, right?
[17:24:49] <alex_joni> Jymmm: coffee
[17:25:02] <Jymmm> alex_joni Oh, no problem... just a sec...
[17:25:18] <Jymmm> alex_joni http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2324.html
[17:25:22] <cradek> allow a jog beyond soft limits
[17:26:02] <Jymmm> cradek ah, ok.
[17:32:49] <alex_joni> hello rayh, paul_c
[17:33:20] <alex_joni> cradek: that's easy (jog beyond soft limits)
[17:33:23] <alex_joni> rehome ;)
[17:33:25] <paul_c> alex_joni: Did ya pass the test ?
[17:33:36] <cradek> alex_joni: but my home position is very near a soft limit
[17:33:40] <alex_joni> whad'ya think?
[17:33:50] <alex_joni> cradek: buggerit then
[17:34:02] <cradek> alex_joni: so I can only jog one way
[17:34:02] <alex_joni> add new signals ;)
[17:34:13] <cradek> alex_joni: the easiest thing to do is restart emc, jog, home
[17:34:18] <cradek> alex_joni: (which is stupid)
[17:34:58] <alex_joni> right
[17:35:01] <alex_joni> or unhome ;)
[17:35:45] <cradek> well, there's not a button for unhome on axis
[17:36:01] <alex_joni> probably no message aswell
[17:36:16] <alex_joni> * alex_joni talks about NML message
[17:36:35] <paul_c> I *think you'll find if you jog in teleop mode, the homed flag is reset
[17:36:43] <rayh> Hi alex
[17:36:47] <rayh> Hi Paul
[17:37:07] <paul_c> Hi Ray - See you reused that box I mailed over...
[17:38:06] <rayh> Ah you got it, eh.
[17:38:26] <paul_c> Yes thanks.
[17:39:57] <alex_joni> paul_c: right, but only for non-triv kins
[17:40:13] <alex_joni> cradek: that might be an easy hack (ugly .. but )
[17:40:39] <cradek> alex_joni: it's not worth it
[17:41:31] <alex_joni> you just need to open trivkins.c and change the KINEMATICS_IDENTITY with KINEMATICS_BOTH
[17:41:34] <alex_joni> and you're set
[17:42:13] <alex_joni> then you'll be able to jog in teleop mode (carth mode, as in XYZ)
[17:42:22] <alex_joni> or in joint mode (as in axis 012..)
[17:42:32] <alex_joni> if you jog in joint mode, your homing gets reset
[17:49:44] <rayh> paul_c: I see a bdi-4_27 branch at sf. Is that the proper place to download the sources for the EMC that's part of BDI-4.30?
[17:51:04] <paul_c> bdi-4_30 tag, or....
[17:52:20] <paul_c> apt-get source emc
[18:00:58] <Jymmm> For anyone wanting to muck around with printer/plotter stuff (awesome refernce): http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?locBasepartNum=5961-0976&lang=English+%28US%29
[18:02:09] <Jymmm> including HPGL
[18:02:14] <alex_joni> heh
[18:02:56] <Jymmm> it's great for anyone writing even linux drivers
[18:03:32] <Jymmm> or including hpgl into their application
[18:07:18] <paul_c> hohum.. basic framework done... Now on to hotplug & udev events.
[18:07:45] <paul_c> kobjects are going to be furrrn....
[18:12:27] <jozofero> http://garfield.com/comics/comics_archives_strip.html?2005-ga050421
[18:14:18] <Jymmm> alex_joni : I'm lucky enough to have the printed manuals - all 2000 pages =)
[18:14:27] <jozofero> Jymmm: but that is a CD-ROM order, not a download ;(
[18:14:52] <Jymmm> jozofero: You goober.... at the bottom is the downloads... DUH! lol
[18:17:03] <jozofero> CD-ROM order page
[18:17:34] <jozofero> place an order
[18:17:46] <Jacky^> yeahhhhhhhh
[18:17:50] <Jymmm> jozofero: You can also view these manuals on-line in .PDF format by choosing one of the following links below."
[18:18:00] <Jacky^> damn eaarth ive under foots
[18:18:00] <jozofero> oh, you mean this huge field :D:D:D You can also view these manuals on-line in .PDF format by choosing one of the following links below.
[18:18:06] <Jacky^> run baby runnn :P
[18:18:15] <Jymmm> jozofero ROTF yeah... THAT!
[18:18:56] <jozofero> For the fun of that... I ain't going to read that even for the fun of that!
[18:19:21] <jozofero> Quote from Monkey Island: "Ewww. I mean EWWWWW."
[18:19:28] <Jymmm> jozofero: I dont keep very many printed books anymore, mostly reference. These are very good.
[18:20:26] <jozofero> Well, the first PIC18F010 manual I downloaded was better ;)
[18:20:51] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes home
[18:20:54] <alex_joni> later guys
[18:20:56] <Jymmm> jozofero: So was the very first PLAYBOY you read too.
[18:21:55] <jozofero> Jymmm: I didn't ever read a "Playboy" magazine, and BTW, the teenager's magazine "BRAVO" contains much more nudity and sex than any "Playboy"!
[18:24:10] <Jymmm> jozofero no clue on that mag.
[19:47:51] <Jacky^> Jacky^ is now known as jack_afk
[20:02:51] <Jymmm> is a bit that's has a 0.042" good for PCB milling/drilling ?
[20:03:49] <cradek> .042 diameter? That's way too big for just about anything
[20:04:08] <cradek> common IC legs fit in a .030 hole
[20:04:20] <Jymmm> ah, ok.
[20:04:21] <cradek> traces are typically separated by .008-.010
[20:04:41] <Jymmm> yeow!
[20:05:01] <cradek> I regularly do 10 mil (.010") traces with 10 mil separation
[20:05:21] <cradek> that lets you pass one trace between IC pads
[20:05:45] <cradek> and under 0805 SMD, but probably not under 0603
[20:05:50] <Jymmm> ok, so if I got a 0.010" I could get away with most simple PCB stuff?
[20:05:58] <Jymmm> no SMT stuff.
[20:06:18] <cradek> yes if you can reliably cut .010 separations you can make useful PCBs
[20:06:18] <Jymmm> err SMD
[20:06:55] <Jymmm> ok, maybe I won't buy any more of these 0.042" then. But 20 for $0.50 I couldn't beat it.
[20:07:07] <cradek> what are they?
[20:07:55] <Jymmm> I guess they could be drills... they have a 1/4" cutter length on a 1/8" shaft
[20:08:16] <cradek> you don't know the shape or material?
[20:08:24] <Jymmm> .042 in = 1.0668 millimeters
[20:08:42] <Jymmm> looks like a spiral endmill
[20:08:55] <cradek> carbide?
[20:09:06] <Jymmm> no idea
[20:09:18] <cradek> anything not carbide will last for about ten seconds
[20:09:27] <cradek> because you're cutting fiberglass
[20:09:50] <Jymmm> metal is all I know, not very ferrious... doens't grab onto the rare-earth magnets I have
[20:10:38] <Jymmm> well it grabs, just not very strong
[20:12:32] <jack_afk> hello :)
[20:12:46] <jack_afk> jack_afk is now known as jacky^
[20:12:59] <jacky^> jacky^ is now known as Jacky^
[20:13:17] <Jymmm> cradek: Like I said, for fity-cents, I couldn't pass it up. They work pretty good in my dremel (hand held).
[20:13:51] <Jymmm> cradek: I meant to ask you about your raster to gcode program if you have a sec
[20:14:03] <cradek> yeah for that price even if you use them to cut wax or wood they're fine
[20:14:36] <cradek> Jymmm: ask away, as long as you're not going to ask me to write the last 20%
[20:15:05] <Jymmm> cradek: heh, no. How does it know what tool I'll be using to cut with?
[20:15:14] <cradek> it doesn't
[20:15:25] <Jymmm> is something implied?
[20:15:48] <cradek> are you talking about the program that generates back-and-forth scanlines over a raster image?
[20:15:54] <Jymmm> yeah
[20:16:11] <Jymmm> assuming it converts greyscale to Z depths
[20:16:16] <cradek> it does only that: generates back-and-forth scanlines over the image
[20:16:22] <cradek> yeah, I think it does that
[20:16:52] <Jymmm> so how would I setup for 1/8" or 1/4" endmill?
[20:16:57] <cradek> I can't remember, it was for a one-off project
[20:17:09] <cradek> just hack it so the scanlines are as far apart as you want them
[20:17:14] <les> ok. bought that spindle!
[20:17:58] <Jymmm> les Columbo thanks you
[20:18:26] <Jacky^> * Jacky^ ghghghg
[20:18:34] <Jacky^> again colombo ?
[20:18:39] <les> yes
[20:18:49] <Jacky^> damn
[20:18:54] <les> I just bought a $1700 colombo spindle
[20:19:06] <Jacky^> and ?
[20:19:23] <Jymmm> cradek Heh, I can barely understand what it's doing, much less hacking it =)
[20:19:36] <Jymmm> err how it's doing it I mean
[20:19:41] <Jacky^> in 18 optober i will gon in north italy ..
[20:19:49] <Jacky^> for a meeting with Olidata
[20:20:01] <Jacky^> les: whats the problem ?
[20:20:07] <Jacky^> :D
[20:20:08] <Jymmm> Jacky^ Yeah, yeah, jsut an excuse to see your girlfriend in person =)
[20:20:09] <les> no problem at all
[20:20:22] <Jacky^> oh ..ok
[20:20:24] <les> now I must buy the frequency drive
[20:20:37] <les> 220 8kW 0-400 Hz
[20:20:39] <Jymmm> les bet ya NC has one =)
[20:20:44] <Jymmm> North Carolina
[20:20:45] <cradek> Jymmm: it's only one loop! Just twiddle the step value
[20:20:46] <Jacky^> Jymmm: nah .. closed with anna ..
[20:21:07] <les> closed?
[20:21:16] <Jymmm> Jacky^ you kick anna to the curb?
[20:21:22] <Jacky^> right
[20:21:25] <Jacky^> broken
[20:21:29] <Jacky^> fuck
[20:21:39] <Jacky^> wrong
[20:21:41] <les> but she has a nice voice....
[20:21:41] <Jacky^> :D
[20:21:47] <Jacky^> yes
[20:21:49] <Jymmm> Jacky^ broken would be 'NO FUCK' actually.
[20:21:50] <jepler> hmph. I left axis running for a few hours and it ate all my memory
[20:22:00] <Jacky^> nice girls
[20:22:01] <jepler> I thought we'd fixed those bugs
[20:22:02] <cradek> jepler: moving?
[20:22:08] <Jacky^> but she break my balls
[20:22:15] <Jacky^> during the work ..
[20:22:20] <jepler> cradek: I don't think so
[20:22:23] <cradek> jepler: ugh
[20:22:27] <Jymmm> Jacky^ All females of the species will break balls.
[20:22:31] <jepler> not running a program, certainly
[20:22:42] <Jacky^> Jymmm: mmhh ..
[20:22:50] <cradek> jepler: maybe emc was fidgeting like it does?
[20:23:07] <Jymmm> les btw, thansk for the info. appreciated.
[20:23:19] <jepler> cradek: maybe
[20:23:22] <Jymmm> Jacky^: Well, sorry to hear about your breakup.
[20:23:28] <les> np
[20:23:45] <jepler> the history buffer should eventually be forgotten, I suppose
[20:24:09] <Jymmm> cradek if I get some more of these bits, you want a couple?
[20:24:09] <les> pds colombo wanted 975 for the invertor but I have a quote from another for $550
[20:24:17] <les> so I will go with that
[20:24:18] <Jacky^> Jymmm: no problem
[20:24:21] <cradek> jepler: yeah, it should. It should know when the machine is running low on ram and do the right thing.
[20:24:23] <Jacky^> :)
[20:24:37] <Jacky^> i'm going to meet sabrina ..
[20:24:38] <cradek> Jymmm: I appreciate it, but no thanks
[20:24:45] <Jymmm> cradek ok, np
[20:25:21] <Jacky^> les: for any prob with colombo just ask
[20:25:36] <Jacky^> ;)
[20:25:59] <Jacky^> theres a mafia there !
[20:26:01] <Jacky^> lol
[20:26:03] <Jacky^> :D
[20:26:06] <Jacky^> kidding
[20:28:08] <Jacky^> http://www.olidata.com/HomePage.asp
[20:28:15] <jepler> axis seems to be growing by around a meg per 15 seconds
[20:30:03] <cradek> something must have broken
[20:30:38] <jepler> what, I wonder?
[20:30:45] <jepler> RSS 71M
[20:31:57] <jepler> RSS 81M
[20:32:07] <jepler> much worse than a meg per 15 seconds
[20:32:45] <cradek> I am not getting that behavior
[20:32:51] <cradek> (while running)
[20:32:59] <jepler> I started the simulator and jogged to somewhere a few inches from the origin
[20:33:02] <jepler> I didn't load a file or anything
[20:33:07] <cradek> I'm running 3dchips
[20:33:22] <cradek> it started at 74M and has not increased by line 300 of the program
[20:38:26] <jepler> I added code to print len(self.data) and now it doesn't seem to be growing
[20:38:31] <jepler> in memory usage
[20:38:43] <jepler> and len(self.data) is constant while it's not moving, as expected
[20:39:01] <cradek> yay python?
[20:40:58] <jepler> I dunno what happened
[20:41:04] <jepler> it's not happening now, even after I took out that change.
[20:41:13] <jepler> (which should have made no difference anyway)
[20:43:05] <cradek> yuck.
[21:19:03] <Jacky^> les you around ?
[22:54:03] <les> I'm around now!
[22:54:25] <les> trying to find the right vfd
[22:59:06] <Jacky^> les .. hi
[22:59:15] <Jacky^> my cousin has gone
[22:59:18] <Jacky^> np
[22:59:37] <Jacky^> i was asking about abba slider cost
[22:59:56] <Jacky^> for mt
[23:00:06] <Jacky^> $/mt
[23:19:42] <les> hi was away again
[23:19:59] <les> it's low here
[23:20:25] <les> around $100/meter for the smallest rail
[23:20:35] <les> as I recal
[23:20:39] <les> recall
[23:20:58] <les> abba has about the lowest cost of any manufacturer
[23:21:35] <Jacky^> uhmm
[23:21:40] <Jacky^> thanks
[23:21:46] <Jacky^> too much
[23:26:45] <les> I am spending too much today
[23:27:56] <les> having a little trouble finding a vfd that will run 5 hp spindle on single phase
[23:28:30] <les> I was looking at 10 hp drives derated 50% to run the 5 hp motor
[23:46:05] <Jacky^> * Jacky^ feel goooooood
[23:48:55] <jepler> clearly you need a 10hp spindle
[23:50:06] <les> hi jeff
[23:50:21] <les> drive confusion
[23:50:52] <les> seems only actech makes vfds that run on single phase with no derating
[23:53:40] <les> oh well....think I will go to town and get a 6 pack. Then I will feel good like jacky