#emc | Logs for 2005-09-01

[00:01:11] <paul_c> Ooo.. A new face...
[00:01:24] <Jacky^> bad face ..
[00:01:45] <paul_c> someone you know ?
[00:02:01] <Jacky^> mmhh..
[00:06:53] <Jacky^> hi kats
[00:07:00] <kats> hi Jacky^
[00:07:13] <Jacky^> how the thins are going ?
[00:07:38] <Jacky^> eh ??
[00:08:06] <kats> fine and you'
[00:08:20] <Jacky^> nice
[00:09:04] <Jacky^> working on cerebral new tecnology android intercooler
[00:09:14] <Jacky^> you know ??
[00:11:08] <kats> yes
[00:11:35] <Jacky^> yes ?
[00:11:39] <Jacky^> what yes ?
[00:12:31] <Jacky^> kats: are you ready to run emc ??
[00:13:02] <kats> yes
[00:13:09] <Jacky^> lets see..
[00:13:36] <Jacky^> how many axis have your machine ?
[00:14:46] <kats> 2
[00:14:53] <Jacky^> LOL
[00:15:06] <Jacky^> which BDI version are you running ?
[00:15:27] <kats> what machine'
[00:15:29] <kats> ?
[00:15:36] <Jacky^> O_o
[00:15:39] <paul_c> 4.24 (unreleased)
[00:15:40] <Jacky^> yours
[00:15:45] <Jacky^> haha
[00:16:23] <Jacky^> so ?
[00:16:39] <kats> i dont speak english well
[00:16:47] <Jacky^> I see..
[00:17:09] <Jacky^> please, learn eanglsh well, then back again
[00:17:16] <Jacky^> ok ?
[00:17:32] <kats> i am trying to learn
[00:17:48] <Jacky^> mmh ..
[00:18:14] <Jacky^> why i am and not i'm ?
[00:18:33] <Jacky^> where are you looking ?
[00:18:48] <paul_c> * paul_c wonders if there are any teaching jobs in Italy....
[00:19:00] <Jacky^> * Jacky^ rotfl
[00:19:31] <Jacky^> kats: ..
[00:19:43] <kats> EH?
[00:19:51] <Jacky^> abbandona !
[00:20:14] <Jacky^> it's not for you ..
[00:20:49] <Jacky^> :*
[00:22:12] <Jacky^> umpf ..
[00:22:27] <Jacky^> kats: fight
[00:23:28] <paul_c> * paul_c gets a bucket of cold water ready...
[00:23:39] <Jacky^> :)
[00:25:08] <kats> no cold water!
[00:25:30] <Jacky^> eh ..
[00:25:42] <Jacky^> hot water
[00:25:49] <Jacky^> spaghetti.. lol
[00:27:03] <paul_c> food fight ?
[00:27:11] <Jacky^> haha
[00:27:33] <Jacky^> * Jacky^ give a pizza to kats
[00:28:18] <kats> no pizza thanks
[00:28:37] <kats> lol
[00:28:39] <Jacky^> ah .. no pizza ??
[00:28:47] <Jacky^> cool
[00:30:09] <kats> beer cool
[00:32:58] <kats> come si fa a registrarsi ?
[00:33:11] <Jacky^> freenode
[00:33:17] <kats> qui mi da continuamente queto messaggio
[00:33:27] <kats> ma io lo avevo fatto
[00:33:50] <Jacky^> kats: please.. speak english here
[00:33:58] <kats> sorry
[00:34:11] <Jacky^> ]:)
[00:34:23] <Jacky^> ok..
[00:34:36] <Jacky^> you need to register your nickname
[00:34:41] <paul_c> Oh I dunno... google/translate provides some merriment...
[00:34:50] <Jacky^> for more information: /help
[00:34:58] <Jacky^> :)
[00:35:02] <paul_c> <kats> as here they give continuously queto message to me but I had made it
[00:36:45] <paul_c> kats: It probably means your nick has been regisered by someone else.
[00:37:02] <Jacky^> ah.. ok
[00:37:30] <Jacky^> kats: try alternative nick :D
[00:37:51] <Jacky^> something like.. anna_emc
[00:38:47] <kats> i understand
[00:38:56] <Jacky^> understood ?
[00:39:02] <Jacky^> nice :)
[00:39:19] <Jacky^> lol
[00:39:54] <paul_c> or katsndawg
[00:40:23] <paul_c> /nick new_nick would have done..
[00:40:36] <Jacky^> :)
[00:40:45] <Jacky^> let's see
[00:41:54] <Jacky^> haha
[00:42:09] <Jacky^> good evening madame :)
[00:42:28] <anna_emc> good evening
[00:42:58] <Jacky^> where you from ?
[00:43:16] <anna_emc> i'm italia
[00:43:30] <Jacky^> italia ? bleahh
[00:43:36] <Jacky^> which town ?
[00:43:41] <paul_c> which bit ?
[00:43:55] <anna_emc> because your from?
[00:44:04] <Jacky^> eh ?
[00:44:13] <Jacky^> what ?
[00:44:37] <Jacky^> anna_emc: I mean, wich city
[00:44:42] <Jacky^> where ?
[00:44:48] <anna_emc> napoli
[00:44:53] <Jacky^> napoli ?
[00:44:59] <Jacky^> what's napoli ?
[00:45:17] <paul_c> Naples !
[00:45:22] <Jacky^> ah !!
[00:45:26] <Jacky^> thats ok
[00:45:52] <Jacky^> ok, you're from naples
[00:45:54] <anna_emc> paul thanks
[00:45:58] <Jacky^> not napoli, ok ?
[00:46:21] <anna_emc> .-)
[00:46:55] <Jacky^> ok ok..
[00:47:43] <paul_c> Ah... Not far from Vesuvius.
[00:48:14] <Jacky^> anna_emc: how many km from vesuvius ?
[00:48:29] <anna_emc> Jacky^ to bully whit anna
[00:48:40] <Jacky^> ah ?
[00:48:43] <Jacky^> oh ?
[00:48:45] <anna_emc> :-(
[00:49:01] <Jacky^> what mean ?
[00:49:06] <anna_emc> 20 km
[00:49:18] <Jacky^> ah.. onli 20 km ?
[00:49:23] <Jacky^> niceee
[00:49:52] <anna_emc> to bully mean (DURO)
[00:49:59] <anna_emc> fare il duro
[00:50:04] <Jacky^> ah ..
[00:50:08] <Jacky^> strong ?
[00:50:12] <Jacky^> hehe
[00:50:18] <anna_emc> vocano strong
[00:50:26] <anna_emc> bully dice vocabolario
[00:51:02] <Jacky^> :-)
[00:51:11] <Jacky^> ah.. anna_emc
[00:51:40] <anna_emc> paul naples is beautiful city
[00:52:30] <anna_emc> ok
[00:52:45] <anna_emc> paul_c
[00:52:51] <Jacky^> we have alex_jony here
[00:53:08] <anna_emc> con tab
[00:53:09] <paul_c> paul_c has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Enhanced Machine Control forum - Support and development of a linux based CNC control. | Home page www.linuxcnc.org | Regular Developer's meetings every Sunday between 14:00 & 18:00 GMT | General linux discussions and support the rest of the week. | BDI-4.24 released. Minor bug fixes to EMC
[00:53:58] <paul_c> anna_emc: One day, I might visit Italy
[00:54:48] <anna_emc> yes
[00:54:52] <anna_emc> well
[00:55:40] <paul_c> but Naples sounds like it is full of people.
[00:56:29] <Jacky^> yeah.. a few millions of peoples I think ..
[00:56:48] <Jacky^> anna_emc: how many ?
[00:57:07] <anna_emc> sorry piano
[00:57:20] <anna_emc> io devo ready vocabulair
[00:57:20] <paul_c> over one million...
[00:57:21] <anna_emc> ah ah
[00:57:21] <Jacky^> quanti abitanti ?
[00:57:43] <paul_c> * paul_c thinks a million too many.
[00:57:46] <anna_emc> 4 milioni penso
[00:57:56] <Jacky^> nice
[00:57:57] <paul_c> * paul_c thinks 4 million too many.
[00:57:59] <Jacky^> :)
[00:58:05] <anna_emc> four million
[00:58:30] <paul_c> * paul_c does not like large crowds.
[00:58:37] <Jacky^> :)
[00:59:37] <anna_emc> does?
[00:59:43] <anna_emc> cosa significa?
[01:00:05] <Jacky^> paul_c: non ama i posti molto grandi
[01:00:32] <anna_emc> :-(
[01:00:45] <Jacky^> probaly, paul_c likes place like positano ..
[01:00:50] <anna_emc> wow
[01:00:52] <Jacky^> or capri island
[01:01:04] <anna_emc> positano yes very beautiful
[01:01:06] <Jacky^> not big metro like naples
[01:01:51] <anna_emc> is little
[01:02:25] <Jacky^> but nice
[01:03:09] <Jacky^> http://www.positanonline.it/foto/posnight.jpg
[01:03:37] <Jacky^> I remember something there..
[01:03:52] <Jacky^> anna_emc: right ?
[01:04:32] <Jacky^> ah.. ok ok
[01:04:53] <Jacky^> anna_emc: I was sayng i want to buy a robot kit
[01:05:09] <anna_emc> dammi un traduttore simultaneooooo
[01:05:14] <Jacky^> http://www.deagostiniedicola.it/collezioni/idroid_01/
[01:05:20] <anna_emc> ci metto n ora a tradurre
[01:05:28] <Jacky^> anna_emc: do you like it ?
[01:05:47] <Jacky^> anna_emc: what are you using to translate ?
[01:06:38] <Jacky^> anna_emc: http://www.systranet.com/systran/net
[01:06:40] <paul_c> http://www.terragalleria.com/europe/italy/amalfi-coast/amalfi-coast.2.html < Looks small...
[01:06:43] <Jacky^> :)
[01:07:16] <Jacky^> paul_c: :)
[01:07:34] <anna_emc> www.capri.net
[01:07:40] <anna_emc> lookkk
[01:08:59] <paul_c> http://www.yosemite.org/vryos/sentinelcam.htm http://www2.nature.nps.gov/air/webcams/parks/grsmcam/grsmcam.cfm
[01:10:04] <Jacky^> ah..a paul_c iace la montagna
[01:10:21] <Jacky^> paul_c: likes mountains
[01:10:59] <Jacky^> anna_emc: probably, he like something live avellino..
[01:11:08] <Jacky^> like*
[01:11:11] <anna_emc> www.lagolaceno.it
[01:11:21] <Jacky^> yeah :)
[01:12:05] <Jacky^> http://www.lagolaceno.it/immagini.htm
[01:13:42] <Jacky^> lago laceno is near naples
[01:13:52] <Jacky^> I like aosta too
[01:14:08] <Jacky^> in north italy
[01:14:26] <Jacky^> well ..
[01:14:33] <Jacky^> time bed for me
[01:14:37] <Jacky^> ops
[01:14:41] <Jacky^> bedtime :)
[01:14:46] <Jacky^> anna_emc:
[01:14:55] <Jacky^> ciao
[01:14:58] <anna_emc> ok
[01:15:00] <anna_emc> bye
[01:15:15] <anna_emc> night
[01:15:16] <Jacky^> paul_c: night
[01:15:23] <Jacky^> night all
[02:51:54] <Jymmmm> Jymmmm is now known as Jymmm
[02:57:08] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
[02:57:08] <Red70sShow> Red70sShow is now known as Jymmm
[12:25:23] <Jymmm> paul_c Mornin Sunshine!
[12:27:36] <paul_c> Morning me old fruit.
[12:30:25] <Yuga> hey all
[12:30:38] <Jymmm> yeah... a prune
[12:37:31] <paul_c> Hi Phill
[12:39:10] <Jymmm> * Jymmm pokes paul_c with a bagel
[12:39:48] <paul_c> * paul_c grabs a cricket bat
[12:40:00] <Jymmm> * Jymmm grabs the cream cheese
[12:40:37] <CR750> Hi Paul
[12:40:54] <paul_c> Looking forward to the weekend ?
[12:40:55] <CR750> Did you get my provate chat?
[12:41:03] <CR750> you betcha
[12:41:33] <cradek> CR750: any more luck with realize?
[12:41:36] <CR750> My nephew is playing in the Wallabies side against South Africa
[12:41:43] <paul_c> 2-1, and England just need a draw... 'bout time we got the Ashes back.
[12:42:02] <CR750> I'm *not* talking about cricket!
[12:42:04] <CR750> 8-)
[12:42:27] <CR750> Still having trouble generating the curves. The lines work OK.
[12:43:09] <paul_c> the machine close to being tuned then ?
[12:43:33] <CR750> The hardware and the inifile look pretty close to right
[12:44:06] <paul_c> running a metric config OK ?
[12:44:12] <CR750> Yes
[12:44:51] <CR750> My ste[ppers will only let me accellerate to 3mm/s
[12:44:52] <paul_c> * paul_c blames the yanks for sticking with legacy units that no one else uses.
[12:45:05] <CR750> \o/
[12:45:15] <Jymmm> * Jymmm smacks paul_c with a yard stick
[12:45:24] <CR750> In fact metric is the national standard.
[12:45:34] <CR750> for the septics
[12:45:55] <CR750> It's just that our friends in the US can't divide by 10
[12:46:02] <paul_c> * paul_c sweeps Jymmm out the door with a yard broom.
[12:48:20] <paul_c> You should be able to acellerate faster than 3mm/Sec^2
[12:48:20] <CR750> is <CRDEK> <?> in the office?
[12:48:20] <CR750> That's a MAX speed
[12:48:20] <CR750> my steppers go into stall/hum mode
[12:48:20] <cradek> I'm at home still - 06:30 here
[12:48:21] <paul_c> hrmmm... Getting around 8mm/Sec with the Sherline steppers..
[12:48:38] <CR750> <cradek> I'm having a problem with REALISE where I can't seem to generate cutves.
[12:49:15] <CR750> curves
[12:49:27] <cradek> CR750: are they polylines in your drawing?
[12:49:43] <CR750> ARC
[12:49:53] <cradek> CR750: you need to change them to polylines
[12:49:57] <Jymmm> http://hometown.aol.com/roarksrus/images/freighter%20vs%20hurricane.jpg
[12:50:11] <cradek> CR750: ARC and CIRCLE are not directly supported
[12:50:23] <cradek> CR750: only LINE and POLYLINE
[12:50:29] <CR750> ookkkkkaaayyyy. A hint on how to do that? Or look in Help?
[12:50:54] <cradek> CR750: invoke PEDIT, select the arc, autocad prompts "do you want to change it into a polyline", answer yes
[12:51:09] <CR750> k
[12:51:24] <CR750> There are only about 200 arcs in the gear.
[12:51:25] <paul_c> Jymmm: Bet you're glad you only have to worry about an earthquake once every 100 years..
[12:51:42] <cradek> CR750: if you have lines and arcs that touch on endpoints and you want to convert them into one toolpath, convert one to POLYLINE and then use PEDIT's JOIN command to merge them all together into one polyline
[12:51:46] <Jymmm> and we're 5years overdue
[12:52:31] <cradek> CR750: then realize will generate one continuous toolpath to match the polyline
[12:53:01] <CR750> "join"ing now...
[12:55:01] <cradek> have to get ready for work - be back in 1.25 hr
[12:55:42] <les> just great to wake up to...gasoline crisis
[12:55:48] <les> blah
[12:58:45] <paul_c> If America is waking up, it must be dinner time.
[13:07:33] <CR750> I ahve to go and pick up my wife. I might not get back to acad work tonight. 8-((
[13:07:47] <CR750> g'night.
[13:16:44] <paul_c> time to go and do "stuff" - Back later.
[13:20:42] <cradek> it's hard to help CR750 if our daytimes only overlap by 15 minutes
[13:27:58] <Jymmm> lol
[13:28:09] <Jymmm> Mornin chris, les
[13:28:54] <les> morning
[13:29:02] <les> not such a good one
[13:29:14] <les> 6$ gas in atlanta
[13:29:16] <les> hmph
[13:29:39] <Jymmm> you cant buy gas in Mississippi unless your an official or Emergency services
[13:32:38] <les> Well, the weather has turned nice....think I will finish off some work tables for the shop
[13:36:04] <les> we need more
[13:36:04] <les> So I glued up some oak butcher block
[13:36:04] <les> 3 inches thick
[13:36:04] <les> That ought to be industrial duty
[13:36:04] <Jymmm> heh
[13:53:58] <cradek> g'morning
[13:54:38] <cradek> I wonder if you can cause a run on any product by tripling the price
[13:54:52] <cradek> people are idiots.
[13:57:43] <les> chris, this seems to be gouging to me
[13:58:14] <cradek> yeah, maybe. But I hear the whole thing started with email rumors.
[13:58:27] <les> hmmm
[13:58:41] <cradek> we were only at $3.40 yesterday here - don't know if it's higher today or not.
[13:59:21] <cradek> email rumors -> people panic -> run on gas -> high prices or buying restrictions -> more panic
[13:59:56] <les> I might hold off a bit on some heavy items I have to order...shipping may be out of this world at the moment
[14:00:04] <cradek> remember 5 years ago the run on antifreeze? because some rumor was started? who the hell needs to stock up on antifreeze, but lots of people paniced and tried
[14:00:21] <cradek> and *of course* there wasn't enough for everyone to stock up
[14:00:27] <Jymmm> helium baby, helium
[14:00:34] <les> heh
[14:00:39] <cradek> ha
[14:00:49] <cradek> buy a blimp of helium at the same time?
[14:00:49] <Jymmm> We really are running out of helium
[14:00:53] <cradek> oh
[14:00:57] <cradek> I thought you meant for shipping
[14:01:09] <Jymmm> that too...50# becomes 30
[14:01:25] <les> so the shippers pay you?
[14:01:36] <Jymmm> hey, never thought of that
[14:02:13] <Jymmm> is there a guide for setting up emc? I'm looking at the wiki, and nothing detailed
[14:02:39] <les> you know I don't know of anything comprehensive
[14:03:22] <les> like a step-by-step through each .ini line
[14:03:55] <Jymmm> well, at this point just a simple step-by-step would be nice.
[14:05:01] <les> The servo pid/ff stuff is particularly poorly documented
[14:05:15] <les> and there is some misinformation
[14:05:52] <les> pidff means different things in a current mode, voltage mode, or velovity mode amp
[14:06:08] <les> works with all. but in different ways
[14:06:16] <Jymmm> I'm using steppers, so I dont think that applies atm.
[14:06:22] <les> right
[14:06:32] <Jymmm> at least I HOPE not! =)
[14:06:42] <les> just the virtual servo
[14:08:24] <Jymmm> Well, hopefully the memory I bought for the laptop will be here today. It'll be nice to go from 128 to 256. Hopefully it'll be a dramatic improvement
[14:14:44] <jepler> what are you running? even without running gnome or kde, it seems like X + some xterms + firefox needs well more than 128 megs.
[14:14:59] <jepler> otoh the 768 megs I have in my own laptop seems to be overkill
[14:15:52] <Jymmm> kde is whats running. but I've come to find out over the years you just can't have enough ram.
[14:16:11] <Jymmm> and more resently you REALLY can't have enough L2 cache
[14:17:31] <jepler> first thing I'd do is ditch kde...
[14:18:21] <Jymmm> in place of what?
[14:20:02] <jepler> I use "icewm".
[14:20:28] <jepler> I don't want a graphical e-mail client or IDE, I don't want a graphical directory browser, and I don't want docs or bars to clutter my screen
[14:20:35] <jepler> so KDE and Gnome are mostly things I don't want in the first place
[14:20:41] <jepler> s/docs/docks/
[14:21:17] <Jymmm> why even bother going GUI at all? There is fbconsole now.
[14:23:11] <jepler> oh, I do use X applications.
[14:23:44] <Jymmm> well, whats 'wrong'/different with kde -vs- icewm
[14:23:51] <jepler> afaik, xterm and rxvt still have better support for unicode than any linux console, even framebuffer (can you load fonts with more than 512 code points?)
[14:25:48] <jepler> and who wants to give up stuff like overlapping windows and widely-used 2d and 3d drawing APIs?
[14:26:11] <jepler> * jepler wanders off
[15:25:29] <Jymmm> * Jymmm hands jepler a map and a sextan
[18:31:00] <robin_sz> meep?
[18:35:00] <robin_sz> * robin_sz waves from sunny New York
[18:35:45] <robin_sz> interresting place .. sort of like a dirty version of London
[18:41:09] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz, how's the obesity factor?
[18:44:44] <robin_sz> mmm]
[18:44:49] <robin_sz> well .. not so bad
[18:44:59] <A-L-P-H-A> buffalo, ny, was nasty.
[18:45:01] <robin_sz> but almost zero nice girls to look at :(
[18:45:12] <A-L-P-H-A> really?
[18:45:14] <A-L-P-H-A> come to toronto.
[18:45:25] <robin_sz> ive been to vancouver
[18:46:00] <robin_sz> but toronto is on my "to visit" list
[18:46:33] <robin_sz> next time Rush play live huh?
[18:50:08] <A-L-P-H-A> Rush?
[18:52:58] <robin_sz> oh a small band from Toronto
[19:47:23] <anonimas1> * anonimas1 yawns
[20:49:54] <AchiestDragon> well http://www.whipy.demon.co.uk/cncz2.jpg no marks for a good looking machine , (just before i finised the x axis ) now have x axis sorted and extra supports on the y sides
[20:50:43] <paul_c> No runs in the paint job...
[20:51:45] <AchiestDragon> the painted angle iron was scrap , because it was painted ,
[20:52:22] <paul_c> and what is that - 2" thick concrete base ?
[20:52:43] <paul_c> Should make the table pretty rigid.
[20:52:52] <AchiestDragon> that is a coal bunker / workbench
[20:54:13] <paul_c> It will give you a taste of CNC without being too expensive.
[20:54:41] <AchiestDragon> yes
[20:56:24] <AchiestDragon> the y and z axises run ok , the x seems to have some rotation to it in the y plane that i'm trying to sort
[20:56:51] <paul_c> probably some twist in the bed bars
[20:58:01] <AchiestDragon> well i havent fitted the x leadscrew yet ot the assembly that fits under the x carage , so this may sort that
[20:58:16] <AchiestDragon> ot =or
[20:59:02] <paul_c> s/carage/carriage/
[20:59:34] <paul_c> We don't get to picky about spelling & typos
[20:59:39] <AchiestDragon> still need to add some spaces so theres room for it
[21:00:04] <AchiestDragon> my spelling is as bad as my typeing sometimes
[21:00:18] <cradek> paul_c: too
[21:00:45] <paul_c> with all the furriners around...
[21:17:53] <ValarQ> logger_aj: logging what?
[21:18:04] <ValarQ> logger_aj: already?
[21:18:04] <ValarQ> I'm logging. Sorry, searching removed.
[21:18:12] <ValarQ> ?
[21:18:26] <paul_c> logger_aj: silent mode
[21:18:26] <paul_c> I'm logging. I don't understand 'silent mode', paul_c. Try /msg logger_aj help
[21:22:30] <ValarQ> :/
[21:43:43] <anna_emc> good evening
[21:43:55] <paul_c> * paul_c waves to Anna
[21:44:02] <anna_emc> hello paul_c
[21:44:54] <paul_c> how are you ?
[21:45:19] <anna_emc> well
[21:46:54] <smithy> nick rayh-smithy
[21:47:06] <anna_emc> sorry for my english
[21:47:19] <anna_emc> :-(
[21:48:06] <smithy> smithy is now known as rayh-smithy
[21:48:27] <rayh-smithy> Darn amazing how much you can forget in a month.
[21:49:03] <paul_c> * paul_c hands Ray a magic memory pill.
[21:49:19] <rayh-smithy> Ray needs more than one!
[21:49:22] <rayh-smithy> Hi Paul
[21:49:34] <rayh-smithy> Got 4.23 running here.
[21:49:34] <paul_c> Long time, no see.
[21:49:53] <paul_c> * paul_c is going to have 4.24 out later tonight.
[21:50:13] <rayh-smithy> I saw the start of such a thing on one of the mirrors.
[21:50:36] <paul_c> darned ftp has broken twice in as many days..
[21:50:45] <rayh-smithy> I see that the /home/"user"/gcode/ stock files are owned by root.
[21:51:04] <rayh-smithy> Is that on purpose or can we change owners during install?
[21:52:35] <paul_c> * paul_c checks something...
[21:53:52] <paul_c> sodit... Can fix that.
[21:54:16] <rayh-smithy> Great. The sodit part anyway.
[21:55:50] <paul_c> anything else you found wrong ?
[21:56:07] <rayh-smithy> Do you remember what was done at NIST this spring to speed up verify?
[21:57:24] <paul_c> lemme take a look...
[22:02:32] <paul_c> can you remember which tree it was done in ?
[22:03:14] <rayh-smithy> No I can't.
[22:03:46] <rayh-smithy> I thought SWP was working on it with a couple others.
[22:04:07] <rayh-smithy> I wonder if the changes even got comitted.
[22:05:22] <paul_c> by the looks of it.... No it didn't
[22:05:35] <rayh-smithy> I seem to remember something about verify only handling one line per rt loop.
[22:06:36] <cradek> but the interpreter is not rt
[22:06:56] <Jymmm> Will the REAL Ray Henry please stand up!
[22:07:10] <rayh-smithy> doesn't exist!
[22:07:21] <Jymmm> heh
[22:07:24] <rayh-smithy> Hi Jymmm
[22:07:31] <Jacky^> hello rayh :)
[22:07:42] <Jacky^> evening all
[22:07:47] <rayh-smithy> How you doing?
[22:07:51] <Jymmm> rayh-smithy: Thought maybe you went to Sadonna Az and the aliens got ya
[22:07:56] <Jymmm> Sedonna
[22:08:16] <Jacky^> hard day work here..
[22:10:19] <Jymmm> Anyone know if there's a step-by-step for configuring the ini by chance?
[22:10:25] <paul_c> rayh-smithy: I can tell you who was working on the change... May be he still has it on his laptop.
[22:10:50] <rayh-smithy> Who was it?
[22:10:52] <Jymmm> * Jymmm exits stage left
[22:11:06] <paul_c> W. Padnos.
[22:11:27] <paul_c> Jymmm: Watch out for the open trap..... Too late.
[22:12:04] <rayh-smithy> Is he about these days?
[22:13:02] <paul_c> On the mailing list... Not seen him here for a while.
[22:13:43] <rayh-smithy> I'll ask there and see what shakes out.
[22:15:39] <rayh-smithy> Looks like I'm not registered and can't send private messages.
[22:16:35] <rayh-smithy> rayh-smithy is now known as rayh
[22:19:24] <Jacky^> I need to turn on/off an exahust fan every 15-20 min after a gcode program is runned ..
[22:19:33] <paul_c> there was a wallop about /msg & unregistered nicks...
[22:19:47] <Jacky^> anyone know if is possible to use parport - realy ?
[22:20:03] <rayh> Now I need one of those memory pills again for registering
[22:20:04] <Jacky^> relay*
[22:20:20] <rayh> brb
[22:20:21] <paul_c> Jacky^: You using just three steppers ?
[22:20:27] <Jacky^> yeah
[22:20:31] <Jacky^> 3 axis
[22:21:16] <paul_c> You can use the unused outputs to control a fan/pump/relay
[22:21:36] <paul_c> see M62 to M65
[22:21:55] <Jacky^> ah.. nice
[22:21:59] <Jacky^> thanks
[22:22:47] <paul_c> There is only a short note about them in the handbook..
[22:23:00] <Jymmm> is that like the shrot bus?
[22:23:03] <Jymmm> short
[22:23:21] <anonimas1> *yawns*
[22:23:29] <paul_c> like a couple of lines..
[22:23:30] <Jymmm> anna_emc ltns
[22:23:51] <Jymmm> anonimas1 you too
[22:24:08] <paul_c> Oh... BTW Jymmm .......
[22:24:16] <Jymmm> Yes Sir?
[22:24:20] <paul_c> All your fault...
[22:24:22] <anonimas1> yeah :)
[22:24:46] <anonimas1> anonimas1 is now known as anonimasy
[22:24:50] <anonimasy> anonimasy is now known as anonimasu_
[22:24:54] <Jymmm> It wasn't me, I was never there and you can't prove it!!!!!!!!!!!11
[22:24:59] <anonimasu_> how are you doing?
[22:25:17] <Jacky^> hi anonimasu_ :)
[22:25:20] <Jymmm> anonimasu_ not too shabby I guess, how about yourself?
[22:25:27] <anonimasu_> working lots
[22:25:34] <paul_c> Jymmm: You wanted a samba server - You are getting it.
[22:25:36] <Jymmm> I can tell =)
[22:25:45] <Jymmm> paul_c: Is there enought room?
[22:25:51] <Jacky^> anonimasu_: hehe.. my friend :P
[22:25:54] <anonimasu_> I have moved my machine once this week, one axis is drifting..
[22:25:59] <Jacky^> youre not the only one :)
[22:26:11] <anonimasu_> :)
[22:26:17] <anonimasu_> it's lots of fun though
[22:26:35] <paul_c> Jymmm: Managed to make a little bit of space.
[22:26:57] <paul_c> Could do with another 40Megs...
[22:27:13] <Jymmm> paul_c Ah, very cool. How big is bootsplash?
[22:27:15] <anonimasu_> hm remove the manuals?
[22:27:20] <anonimasu_> and kde..
[22:27:31] <anonimasu_> and put a smaller wm there..
[22:27:40] <Jymmm> I did notice some M$ utilities on the CD as well.
[22:27:46] <Jymmm> those could be compressed
[22:27:53] <paul_c> or deleted.
[22:27:53] <anonimasu_> or is this a bdi cd?
[22:28:36] <paul_c> bootsplash is 57K
[22:28:46] <Jymmm> coudl get rid of Xeyes =)
[22:28:54] <stewart_> paul_c: you mentioned there was a remote interface to EMC. is this via a TCP protocol? if so, is it documented?
[22:29:24] <paul_c> Hi stewart_
[22:30:01] <paul_c> The communications is switchable between tcp & udp
[22:30:07] <stewart_> paul_c: sorry. manners. hi!
[22:31:18] <stewart_> what remote interfaces have been implemented? java?
[22:31:58] <stewart_> if not, i would be interested in developing one
[22:32:23] <stewart_> stewart_ is now known as mrallen
[22:32:24] <paul_c> (cough, spit, splutter, splutter).... java !!!
[22:33:03] <mrallen> paul_c: heh. i have many years of java under my belt and some time to work on it
[22:33:31] <mrallen> i work in a mixed world of mac, linux and windows -- so a java front end would be ideal
[22:33:38] <paul_c> * paul_c deletes rude comments about java
[22:34:12] <paul_c> There is/was a java GUI in the EMC1 tree
[22:34:17] <mrallen> at home, i have 4 linux boxes (3 servers), 2 windows (xp laptop and win2k), 4 macs, etc...
[22:34:33] <paul_c> Not been looked at in, um, er... years.
[22:34:51] <mrallen> is the protocol kinda sorta maybe a little documented? i've done a lot of protocol work
[22:36:44] <paul_c> The protocol is documented (poorly) at the NIST rcslib web site.
[22:37:20] <Jymmm> http://emc.sourceforge.net/Handbook/node111.html
[22:38:50] <mrallen> Jymmm: i looked at that previously. it assumes EMC is on both machines so it's sharing a library - it's not a doc of the protcol
[22:38:59] <paul_c> "The RCS Handbook" ISBN0-471-43565
[22:40:02] <paul_c> rcslib has java extensions...
[22:40:03] <Jymmm> http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/projects/rcslib/CodeGen-Instructions.html
[22:40:40] <paul_c> http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/projects/rcslib/ - For most of the online docs
[22:41:22] <mrallen> thanks for the links --- i'll check it out
[22:41:41] <mrallen> * leaving for dinner
[22:42:03] <Jymmm> ftp://ftp.isd.mel.nist.gov/pub/emc/rcslib/
[22:42:20] <Jymmm> Just search nist.gov
[22:42:24] <paul_c> eeuuww... Well old,
[22:42:31] <mrallen> excellent
[22:42:39] <paul_c> SF has all the current rcslib code.
[22:43:38] <Jymmm> probably better to have somethign to work off (java) than starting from scratch.
[22:46:21] <paul_c> Sun's Java is not available in the main Debian repository
[22:46:47] <Jymmm> nonfree?
[22:47:41] <paul_c> jdk1.1
[22:47:47] <Jymmm> Hmmmm.... http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/projects/rcslib/papers/Appendix.htm
[22:48:20] <Jymmm> Shackleford, W. , "RCS Library Web Page"
[22:48:32] <paul_c> have it running on a web connected box here..
[22:50:12] <Jymmm> I thought you said you hated java?
[22:50:31] <paul_c> I do.
[22:51:22] <Jymmm> necessary evil?
[22:51:57] <paul_c> I only installed it short term to debug some of Till's stuff...
[22:52:27] <paul_c> btw - Jikes is in Debian main along with javacc
[22:53:03] <Jymmm> what is 'jikes' ?
[22:53:36] <Jymmm> I have no need to java majority of the time it's disab;ed
[22:54:31] <paul_c> "Jikes is a Java compiler that translates Java source files in to bytecode & binary"
[22:54:39] <Jymmm> ah, ok.
[22:55:56] <Jymmm> ok memtest almost done... I wonder when performance imporvements I'll get going from 128M to 256M
[22:56:09] <Jymmm> s/when/what/
[23:01:16] <mrallen> paul_c: i'm new to debian (yeah i suck -- redhat, etc) and this sherline cnc came with the debian linux box -- i'm a little nervous about mucking it up because it's working at the moment
[23:01:30] <mrallen> but i have that problem with high loads and would like to try and update
[23:01:46] <mrallen> is there a newer EMC that fixes the load problem that's not EMC2?
[23:02:46] <paul_c> yup - Just finishing off an updated CD
[23:03:51] <paul_c> but you still won't get java as part of the CD.. ;-p
[23:04:39] <paul_c> and moving to emc2 wouldn't cure the problems you were seeing
[23:04:49] <Jymmm> mrallen: neeneer neeneer neeneer neeneer
[23:05:32] <paul_c> Sun's jdk will still run on the Debian/BDI install though...
[23:08:41] <mrallen> paul_c: thought you found out the problem causing the high loads -- in tcl or tk?
[23:09:08] <mrallen> paul_c: planning on doing a java client to run on os x or windows -- leave the controller/server on linux
[23:09:13] <paul_c> Yes - The problem is in part, down to the tcl library
[23:10:14] <paul_c> there is another bug, an obscure one, that will affect all GUIs, not just tcl/tk based ones..
[23:10:47] <mrallen> the loading problem is gui related? or in the real-time control library?
[23:11:50] <paul_c> Both the load prob, and the other one I've been chasing are with system libraries and have nothing to do with the realtime code.
[23:13:11] <paul_c> Spoke with a couple of the tcl core developers and they pointed a finger at libc6 & pthreads.
[23:48:40] <paul_c> he's back...
[23:49:05] <rayh-sm> yep. This is 4.20c and it does recognize the same cd device.
[23:49:59] <paul_c> I dare say booting to M$ and it would be the same.
[23:50:21] <rayh-sm> Is this a problem with by 4.23?
[23:50:40] <rayh-sm> my 4.23
[23:51:01] <paul_c> sorry.. missread that as 4.20c didn't recognise the drive.
[23:52:05] <rayh-sm> It does work fine here. Just not 4.23.
[23:52:25] <paul_c> is there ssh access to that box ?
[23:52:54] <rayh-sm> I doubt it. I keep rebooting and I think they have to do something to get into it.
[23:53:04] <rayh-sm> through the server.
[23:54:19] <rayh-sm> It is listed as 192.168 so it is inside the network.
[23:54:58] <rayh-sm> How do I run md5sum on the cd I burned for 4.23?
[23:55:21] <paul_c> yup - The sysadminwould have to take that ip address and allow ssh through the firewall to it..
[23:55:44] <rayh-sm> I could probably get that done tomorrow.
[23:56:19] <paul_c> right - I should have 4.24 up by then...
[23:56:38] <rayh-sm> Okay. That may make the task void anyway.
[23:56:41] <paul_c> md5sum /dev/hdc
[23:56:50] <paul_c> might work for you...
[23:56:58] <rayh-sm> md5sum /dev/hdc
[23:57:28] <rayh-sm> will give it a try
[23:57:36] <rayh-sm> looks like it is reading.
[23:58:46] <paul_c> lemme go through a short list...
[23:59:12] <paul_c> The kernel and firstboot script are the same between both installs.
[23:59:48] <paul_c> The fact that kudzu recognised the drive indicates that it should be working...