#emc | Logs for 2005-08-20

[00:59:23] <Jacky^> night
[01:55:22] <Jymmm> If anyone cares... I found a dos boot disck to access an external USB hdd.
[03:03:20] <Jymmmm> Jymmmm is now known as Jymmm
[04:32:01] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep is not a bot...
[04:32:21] <Phydbleep> Bots dont have asses to work off..
[04:33:23] <Phydbleep> Bots dont have $200 electric bills to pay. :)
[04:35:58] <Jymmm> heh
[04:44:35] <Phydbleep> Bots dont go postal because they've just spent 2 weeks trying to clean with a 4 year old 'helping'... :)
[04:45:00] <Jymmm> what do you think DUCT TAPE is for silly!
[04:45:07] <Jymmm> Hey, you play, you pay!
[04:46:12] <Phydbleep> And then you pray...
[04:46:20] <Phydbleep> Hehehe.. :)
[04:46:23] <Jymmm> lol
[11:33:11] <Jacky^> hi paul_c , optocouplers on input pin 13-13-15 should be wired the same of other pins (2-8) ?
[11:33:24] <Jacky^> or reversed ?
[11:34:25] <Jacky^> 12*-13-15 ..
[13:45:16] <gezr> ill be back
[15:32:29] <dan_falck> hi paul
[15:33:07] <paul_c> Hi Dan
[15:33:40] <dan_falck> I've been busy in the shop lately
[15:33:54] <dan_falck> I'm cleaning up the machine.
[15:34:06] <dan_falck> tearing it all down and giving it a good cleaning
[15:34:11] <paul_c> got any piccies on the web yet ?
[15:34:22] <dan_falck> not yet
[15:34:29] <dan_falck> I will set some up soon
[15:34:53] <dan_falck> the rotary table is heavy. 250 lbs I would guess
[15:35:03] <dan_falck> need to make proper stand for it
[15:35:10] <paul_c> CNC table ?
[15:35:15] <dan_falck> yes
[15:35:24] <dan_falck> big SEM servo powering it
[15:35:27] <paul_c> C axis ?
[15:35:31] <dan_falck> yes
[15:35:43] <paul_c> bit daft on a CNC mill....
[15:35:47] <dan_falck> coordinated motion. not simple M codes
[15:36:14] <dan_falck> I'm sorry, they call it "w" I should have said "A", not C
[15:36:27] <dan_falck> parallel to Y
[15:36:34] <paul_c> Ah.. That makes more sense.
[15:36:44] <dan_falck> heavy sucker
[15:37:18] <dan_falck> I'm concentrating on lube lines and meters at the moment
[15:37:30] <dan_falck> I want to make sure they are all in proper working order
[15:37:50] <dan_falck> I just ordered replacements for the meters
[15:38:55] <dan_falck> So, you have the Interact II with QC 30 tooling?
[15:39:06] <paul_c> yup.
[15:39:16] <dan_falck> do you have EMC running it?
[15:39:45] <paul_c> not yet - The TNC is still fully functional
[15:40:15] <paul_c> and I need digital encoders (linear or rotary) before I can EMC it.
[15:41:40] <dan_falck> I looked inside the cabinet and found that Centroid uses some goofy optical interface between the computer and the servo amps
[15:41:59] <dan_falck> Ray suggested that I talk to Roland F. to see if he could fill me in on it
[15:42:33] <dan_falck> It's a working control, but I want to plan for an EMC retro
[15:42:39] <paul_c> * paul_c knows nothing about Centriod controls.
[15:42:45] <dan_falck> me neither
[15:43:07] <paul_c> what are the specs on the servo motors ?
[15:43:44] <dan_falck> let's see if I can remember. 40 ft/lbs. 130V. 30A
[15:43:50] <dan_falck> something like that
[15:44:07] <dan_falck> they are 8" long from flange to beginning of encoder...
[15:44:15] <dan_falck> pretty hefty
[15:44:15] <paul_c> Sounds like the same type I have on mine...
[15:44:38] <dan_falck> It was originally retrofitted by a company called Hurco
[15:44:59] <dan_falck> their control must have died and then someone replaced it with the Centroid
[15:45:11] <dan_falck> It has a very unique Z axis system.
[15:45:38] <dan_falck> the quill is pushed up and down from a rod connected to the spindle through the head
[15:45:50] <dan_falck> I'll have to post pics somewhere
[15:49:16] <dan_falck> time to go do more cleaning. talk to you later
[15:51:44] <paul_c> 'k
[17:10:32] <Jacky^> paul_c: you around ?
[17:12:17] <Jacky^> what if optocouplers on parport are slow ? will i get some msg like 'following error' or not ?
[17:13:43] <paul_c> nope. You'll probably "magically lose steps"
[17:14:00] <Jacky^> :| thanks
[17:14:25] <Jymmm> EMC doens't support a PC Joystick does it?
[17:15:33] <paul_c> Not that I know of - But it is a trivial enough application that you should be able to code one up.
[17:15:52] <Jymmm> Since when does linux support BASIC?!
[17:16:14] <paul_c> bwbasic
[17:16:20] <Jymmm> bw?
[17:16:24] <paul_c> been around for years..
[17:16:32] <Jymmm> really? I'll be damned
[17:17:15] <paul_c> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=basic&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all
[17:17:42] <Jacky^> why want a joystick ? to manually move axes ?
[17:18:04] <Jymmm> Jacky^: No, to turn emc into a PONG game =)
[17:18:49] <Jacky^> if so, why not connect a joystick directly to the controllers ?
[17:20:19] <Jacky^> * Jacky^ can't understand ..
[17:23:16] <Jymmm> Jacky^: connect a joystick to emc (which is a controller)?
[17:25:16] <Jacky^> Jymmm: sorry, i've not understood what you are doing and why..
[17:29:40] <Jymmm> Jacky^: To build a dedicate console using standard components as much as possible. PC joystick, I/O using PS/2 keyboard, etc.
[17:32:07] <Jacky^> Jymmm: nice work
[17:39:46] <Jymmm> Jacky^: something like this http://search.ebay.com/5798877322
[17:45:02] <Jacky^> Jymmm: cool, touchscreen lcd :)
[17:46:04] <Jacky^> when i'll find more time i want to check about handheld apps ..
[17:46:36] <Jacky^> i'm 75% sure it could be work with emc
[17:46:44] <Jacky^> in some way
[17:47:12] <Jacky^> of course, it's touchscreen too ;)
[17:47:14] <Jymmm> I like the idea of a touch screen (over buttons) becasue it's a natural human interface and you are not locked into a specific layout
[17:47:23] <Jacky^> yeah, nice
[17:48:22] <Jymmm> I mean it sure dows look like TkEMC was designed for a touchscreen
[17:48:27] <Jymmm> s/dows/does/
[17:49:11] <Jacky^> good, i never eard before
[17:49:46] <Jymmm> add a couple buttons and a joystick and you are good to go
[17:49:56] <Jacky^> right
[17:51:03] <Jacky^> i could also required to write a driver, i suppose..
[17:51:18] <Jymmm> most act like a mouse
[17:51:26] <Jymmm> just no right-click
[17:51:34] <Jacky^> nice
[17:52:13] <paul_c> tap the screen twice for the right click
[17:52:35] <Jacky^> also double tap cuold work, i think ..
[17:54:35] <Jacky^> i like the idea of handheld, a tiny ipaq running emc :P
[17:55:03] <Jacky^> ram and cpu are fast now
[18:05:28] <Jymmm> oh this is interesting... I'm turn one axis by hand, the xylotex board is completely powered off, but out of the corner of my eye I see the on board LED light up as I turn the motor - oh joy.
[18:05:49] <paul_c> steppers are generators in reverse
[18:06:25] <Jymmm> That I understand, but I never expected the BEMF to feed pack inot th elogic circuitry
[18:07:08] <Jymmm> I need to find a nice breakout board, then I can get some geckos
[18:07:54] <Jymmm> I like Jon's with the SSR's on them, but it's not universal
[18:08:07] <Jymmm> and requires drivers
[18:09:48] <anonimasu> Jymmm: it's a step generator..
[18:09:57] <anonimasu> Jymmm: that happens with servos/geckos also :
[18:09:59] <anonimasu> :)
[18:10:07] <anonimasu> you turn them fast by hand and you feel them jump a step forward..
[18:10:07] <Jymmm> anonimasu : Yes, I know. But it doubles as a breakout baord as well.
[18:12:07] <Jymmm> anonimasu and how is you USC these days?
[18:13:15] <anonimasu> about as before
[18:13:28] <anonimasu> I got home from work about a hour ago..
[18:13:31] <Jymmm> ah
[18:13:37] <anonimasu> went there when I woke up this morning
[18:14:25] <anonimasu> I think I am going to head to a lan party and meet some people..
[18:14:45] <anonimasu> cant sit home and rest all my sparetime
[18:17:52] <anonimasu> Jymmm: I think mariss ignored your mail..
[18:18:03] <Jymmm> anonimasu I think so too.
[18:18:11] <anonimasu> fscker.
[18:19:04] <anonimasu> * anonimasu sighs
[18:22:06] <anonimasu> well, I'll ship the drive there.
[18:22:16] <anonimasu> and I'll buy galil servoamps for my next machine.
[18:23:58] <paul_c> * paul_c has some Copley 423 & 422 amps to use...
[18:24:07] <anonimasu> I am not buying another gecko.
[18:24:26] <anonimasu> I'll ship the gecko there, as requested, there's nothing about it.
[18:25:38] <anonimasu> I'll mail him and ask him about the mail you sent Jymmm
[18:26:17] <anonimasu> paul_c: nice :)
[18:29:01] <anonimasu> hm, yeah I'll mail him and ask..
[18:38:39] <anonimasu> done.
[20:21:47] <AchiestDragon> hi all
[20:22:37] <paul_c> Another Brit.
[20:22:41] <AchiestDragon> a question , will emc drive a stepperworld.com's fet3 stepper controler ?
[20:22:59] <paul_c> dunno... Let's have a look...
[20:24:08] <paul_c> Looks like a unipolar design
[20:24:57] <AchiestDragon> uses the parallel port 3lines for each stepper , direction, step and enable
[20:26:55] <paul_c> EMC would need to be modified to do that.... and I think you would be disappointed with the performance..
[20:27:15] <AchiestDragon> k
[20:27:55] <AchiestDragon> what sort of state is emc in , still development or usable
[20:28:39] <paul_c> Both.
[20:29:05] <paul_c> Sherline ship EMC with their CNC package.
[20:29:42] <paul_c> http://www.xylotex.com/#3axis < A better buy for just another $10
[20:29:55] <AchiestDragon> i got the controler and my cnc is a couple of months of compleation
[20:32:10] <AchiestDragon> i have been trying it with kcam , but stupid program dosent seem to work with xp on the laptop, someting to do with device drivers on xp , not that i like xp anyway
[20:32:49] <paul_c> can't find any pinouts for the stepperworld stuff...
[20:33:05] <AchiestDragon> can get them 1 min
[20:37:31] <AchiestDragon> on there page under software at the botom of the page theres a image showing the port pins for use with kcam
[20:39:49] <paul_c> http://emc.sourceforge.net/Handbook/node22.html - Pinouts for EMC
[20:40:34] <paul_c> looks like kcam use epp mode...
[20:44:16] <paul_c> * paul_c looks at the "supported" G codes from kcam.....
[20:44:35] <paul_c> very limited subset...
[20:44:42] <AchiestDragon> yes
[20:45:40] <AchiestDragon> could you recomend some more sutable software
[20:49:08] <AchiestDragon> windows or linux
[20:50:11] <paul_c> For linux, you only really have two choices, one from Corbin (if he is still around) or emc
[20:50:42] <paul_c> if you don't mind the development code, emc2 would probably work...
[20:51:31] <paul_c> 'fer M$, you are restricted to closed source applications that rely on the OS being free from bugs.
[20:52:25] <paul_c> stepster is the only free one for doze that I know of...
[20:52:31] <AchiestDragon> dont mind betat testing it
[20:53:05] <paul_c> your best bet then is to join tomorrow and bug the hell out of JMK
[20:54:18] <AchiestDragon> :)
[20:55:23] <paul_c> JMK will be easy to spot if he's around tomorrow.
[20:55:30] <AchiestDragon> k
[20:55:52] <paul_c> just look for the short(ish) load yank with a long beard.
[20:55:54] <AchiestDragon> * AchiestDragon adds chan to auto join
[20:56:03] <paul_c> s/load/loud/
[21:11:55] <AchiestDragon> k
[21:12:22] <AchiestDragon> just trying to build emc2 from cvs and getting errors
[21:12:41] <paul_c> what OS ?
[21:12:51] <AchiestDragon> checking for RT dir... configure: error: RT not found, try to specify one by --with-rtai=<path>, --with-rtlinux=<path>, --with-rtlinuxpro=<path>
[21:12:56] <AchiestDragon> suse 9.3
[21:13:21] <paul_c> OK... You don't have a realtime kernel insalled, do you ?
[21:13:33] <AchiestDragon> no
[21:13:55] <AchiestDragon> 7System Information for [8 linux ]
[21:13:55] <AchiestDragon> 7OS/Kernel 8 Linux
[21:13:55] <AchiestDragon> 7CPU Info 8 Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.00GHz 2004.892 Mhz Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.00GHz 2004.892 Mhz Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.00GHz 2004.892 Mhz Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.00GHz 2004.892 Mhz 7 3964.92 Bogomips
[21:13:55] <AchiestDragon> 4005.88 Bogomips
[21:13:55] <AchiestDragon> 4005.88 Bogomips
[21:13:56] <AchiestDragon> 4005.88 Bogomips
[21:13:58] <AchiestDragon> 7HD Info 8 200GB total storage capacity
[21:14:00] <AchiestDragon> 7Memory 8 408.871/502.602MB
[21:14:02] <AchiestDragon> 7Processes 8 126
[21:14:04] <AchiestDragon> 7Uptime 8 5 days 4:31
[21:14:34] <AchiestDragon> think i will put another system together tonight for it
[21:14:42] <paul_c> You will need to patch & compile an RT kernel first....
[21:15:08] <paul_c> alternatively, download & install BDI-4.20 on a spare box.
[21:16:21] <paul_c> what ever you do, don't use a scsi HD
[21:24:23] <jepler_> quad xeon is probably overkill for emc
[21:24:27] <jepler_> just a bit
[21:24:29] <jepler_> jepler_ is now known as jepler
[21:24:52] <AchiestDragon> well its the only linux box i have set up her at the moment
[21:25:30] <AchiestDragon> amd athlon with 10Gb hd and 768mb ram ok ?
[21:26:15] <paul_c> loads of power... What graphics card ?
[21:26:15] <cipherright> Hi - I'm trying to get EMC set up with a Xylotex control box. I found instructions for changing the source code here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?XylotexBoard However, the emcmot.c file listed doesn't have a define for XYLOTEX. Any clues on how to make emc compatible with a Xylotex drive box without building a special connector?
[21:27:51] <paul_c> You need the current CVS sources.. http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=6744
[21:28:21] <AchiestDragon> nvidea mx440
[21:28:36] <paul_c> that card should be OK
[21:29:01] <paul_c> as long as it isn't i810/15/45
[21:32:17] <AchiestDragon> no
[21:33:01] <AchiestDragon> thinking about it , going to use a p4 1.4g one with 64mb ram as the athlon crashes about once a day
[21:35:15] <paul_c> You'll need a bit more memory than that to run the BDI installer.... 128Meg, min.
[21:35:43] <Jymmm> * Jymmm lol @ SCSI
[21:36:19] <AchiestDragon> :) k
[21:44:28] <cipherright> Is there a trick to logging into the CVS server? cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/emc login and then pressing enter for a password terminates cvs and doesn't log me in. I don't get an error. I'm running Windows and have tried Cygwin and wincvs.
[21:46:11] <paul_c> pressing return should return you to the command prompt.
[21:46:30] <paul_c> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/emc co emc
[21:46:36] <paul_c> is the next step.
[21:48:32] <cipherright> Ah, thanks.
[21:49:15] <paul_c> word of warning... M$ has a nasty habit of trashing/adding crap to Unix source files.
[21:53:17] <cipherright> Thanks. I've installed the latest BDI and am planning on compiling this there. Will I need additional libraries or should it just be a recompile after I make the small change to emcmot.c?
[21:53:42] <paul_c> which BDI ??
[21:55:19] <Jymmm> Uh boy... when I get done importing this video, it'll be 18GB
[21:55:25] <cipherright> BDI-EMC v4.18 [2.28.05] [682MB] - BDI-EMC v4.18 - Debian based
[21:55:42] <paul_c> buggerit.
[21:56:44] <paul_c> latest released version is BDI-4.20....
[21:57:08] <paul_c> EMC[1] won't compile on that, you need emc2
[21:58:02] <Jymmm> my bad.... 180GB
[21:58:38] <paul_c> Jymmm: Get yourself a terravault
[21:59:09] <Jymmm> paul_c: Nah.... From the DV camera via firewire to the laptop, then usb to the 300GB ext hdd =)
[21:59:29] <paul_c> http://www.uniquedigital.com/unistar/teravault.htm
[21:59:47] <paul_c> .loadsa space ;)
[22:00:51] <Jymmm> paul_c 300GB hdd $120 + Ext USB case $40 = $160 is a whole lot cheaper than than thing =)
[22:00:56] <paul_c> http://www.dnuk.com/homepage.php < If you want bigger NAS
[22:01:34] <Jymmm> paul_c: is it SCSI? LOL
[22:02:06] <paul_c> probably....
[22:02:18] <Jymmm> I have so much scsi stuff around here it's sad... all unused too!
[22:02:24] <Jymmm> just collecting dust.
[22:03:18] <Jymmm> paul_c: any recommendations for a breakout board?
[22:06:59] <paul_c> the PMDX ones are fairly solid looking...
[22:07:09] <Jymmm> paul_c: what are you using?
[22:07:30] <Jymmm> and don't say 25pair cable either!
[22:08:19] <paul_c> Weidmuller, Vital, & Vigilant boards.
[22:09:42] <Jymmm> well that's no help, unless you have spare you dont want anymore =)
[22:10:15] <paul_c> now where did I put that hallibut
[22:10:30] <Jymmm> lol
[22:17:50] <Jacky^> 2 diode led burned :\
[22:18:14] <Jacky^> i've 12 V 1 ampere,
[22:18:29] <Jacky^> and i want to light on a led
[22:18:37] <Jymmm> 20mA
[22:18:47] <Jymmm> about 2.1 volts (avg)
[22:19:15] <Jacky^> 12-1,4, : 0.02 = 530
[22:19:25] <Jacky^> if is right..
[22:19:33] <Jymmm> huh?
[22:19:35] <Jacky^> i used 470 ohm resistor..
[22:19:43] <Jymmm> too small =)
[22:19:44] <paul_c> On 12V ?
[22:19:47] <Jacky^> why ?
[22:19:50] <Jacky^> yeah
[22:19:54] <Jymmm> Jacky^ do the math
[22:20:04] <paul_c> (12 - 1.4)/0.01 = R
[22:20:05] <Jymmm> E/I*R
[22:20:51] <Jacky^> 1060
[22:21:01] <Jacky^> 1k should be ok ?
[22:21:31] <paul_c> fer starters, close enough.
[22:21:46] <Jacky^> ok, thanks :)
[22:21:53] <Jymmm> http://linear1.org/ckts/led.php
[22:22:01] <paul_c> You do need to check the specs on the optocouplers though..
[22:22:16] <Jacky^> paul_c: ok
[22:22:21] <Jymmm> oh, I though he was using good old red LED's
[22:22:34] <Jacky^> i'm adding a power led on PS now ..
[22:23:15] <Jymmm> Jacky^ try this --> http://linear1.org/ckts/led.php
[22:23:24] <Jacky^> Jymmm: thanks
[22:24:55] <Jymmm> These dumbasses... The y axis belt is starting to frey. the pulley is only on the motor shaft by 1/4". THEN I find that the motor mounting plate is not sqaure to the ballscrew due to the mount block isn't even sqaure! argh!
[22:25:08] <Jymmm> it
[22:25:33] <Jymmm> it's a solid chuck of metal... how in the hell do you screw something up like that?!
[22:25:56] <paul_c> give it to a redneck
[22:26:01] <Jymmm> and they dont even have a mill in the shop, just the cnc center.
[22:27:35] <Jymmm> and I can't even shim it up either. has to be surfaced
[22:28:49] <Jymmm> Then, they switched out the 3/8" mounting plate to a 1/4" plate and mounted the linear rails to that and didn't even say a word about it.
[22:30:00] <Jymmm> I fear that the 1/4" plate will bow/flex over time. Is my fear justified?
[22:39:18] <ValarQ> 'lo folks
[22:39:20] <anonimasu_> Hello
[22:41:51] <ValarQ> any fellow x86 users here?
[22:42:19] <anonimasu_> yes
[22:42:49] <ValarQ> somebody that know how reliable the timer functions are...
[22:44:38] <ValarQ> i guess there must be some limit of what one can do with a x86
[22:47:58] <paul_c> the TSC gives you a pretty fine degree of resolution if you just need a timestamp
[22:49:38] <cipherright> emc2 doesn't want to configure under my current BDI. Is there a BDI that it will configure and compile under?
[22:50:37] <paul_c> Did you read http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BDI-4_Compile_EMC2 ?
[22:51:25] <paul_c> http://www.linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/ says emc2 should compile....
[22:51:25] <cipherright> No, I was reading http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HowToTryEMC2
[22:52:26] <paul_c> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2 would have given you the extra link.
[22:59:51] <Jymmm> bah.... nfc what RS-485 is
[23:00:25] <ValarQ> paul_c: whats a TSC?
[23:05:38] <paul_c> ValarQ: Time Stamp Counter - It's an x86 thing
[23:05:54] <xet7> Hi, can EMC run 3 axes with one G-Code and another 2 axes with another G-Code at the same time?
[23:05:56] <ValarQ> paul_c: ok
[23:07:25] <xet7> Does EMC have scripting language?
[23:07:37] <ValarQ> i have another small problem, i'd like to control a PWM servo, could i use some of the code easily to do that?
[23:07:38] <paul_c> xet7: Not without doing a lot of modification to the core code.
[23:08:07] <paul_c> ValarQ: Radio control servo ?
[23:08:30] <ValarQ> paul_c: yes, from a RC airoplane
[23:08:51] <paul_c> not for CNC I hope..?
[23:08:57] <ValarQ> no...
[23:09:20] <Jymmm> paul_c geeese paul_c, you stooooooooooopid or what?! It's for FLY cutting =)
[23:09:20] <ValarQ> i just thought the hal system used by emc2 could be used for this as well
[23:09:23] <paul_c> An rc servo won't have the response times or power...
[23:09:37] <xet7> can two copies of EMC run at the same time and send socket messages to each other? Using different Parallel or other ports?
[23:10:16] <paul_c> ValarQ: You would need to write a driver for it...
[23:10:47] <ValarQ> paul_c: ok
[23:11:17] <paul_c> xet7: You can have multiple GUIs running on the same computer, or even across a network....
[23:11:58] <paul_c> But, due to the nature of the realtime code, only one instance can be run on a computer at any one time.
[23:12:04] <ValarQ> paul_c: is it the stepgen module i have to replace?
[23:12:27] <paul_c> ValarQ: Probably - Bug JMK about it tomorrow.
[23:12:40] <ValarQ> paul_c: ok, thanks
[23:14:49] <rcsu> * rcsu kicks off sf.net downloads, the cvs is much better
[23:15:14] <paul_c> SF have some shiney new servers installed.
[23:15:43] <rcsu> maybe, but the download of the source is 4 weeks old
[23:16:07] <paul_c> Ah... cvs up -dPA
[23:16:08] <rcsu> and the current cvs co works fine (after 1 day of hacking)
[23:16:36] <xet7> so if I understood right, EMC has radius compensation and cutter compensation? Does it work with grinding?
[23:16:44] <paul_c> If you have already checked out a copy, use update to refresh.
[23:17:02] <rcsu> yes, it was the first co
[23:17:11] <rcsu> i know cvs :)
[23:17:34] <paul_c> xet7: It might help if you described your application.
[23:19:20] <xet7> Ok. It's grinding, 3 axels move head, and table moves below it
[23:20:23] <paul_c> CNC tool grinder ?
[23:21:50] <xet7> yeah, grinding machine, timantizing, making different shape of metal with different shape of grinding stones
[23:23:14] <rcsu> hmm, how can i disable vti_pci ?
[23:23:35] <rcsu> it causes compile errors
[23:24:15] <xet7> problem is how I move table below it, servo motors or something else? G-codes or something else that moves it isn't in sync with grinding stone G-code
[23:25:25] <paul_c> rcsu: EMC1 or emc2 ?
[23:25:51] <paul_c> xet7: Your application sounds very specialised.
[23:26:33] <xet7> How well is EMC code commented and documented?
[23:27:02] <paul_c> um..er... precious little..
[23:27:19] <paul_c> The interpreter is the most documented.
[23:27:36] <xet7> Can EMC lathe?
[23:28:12] <paul_c> It can do turning, yes. But threading is not implemented yet.
[23:28:34] <paul_c> rcsu: Install picutils-dev
[23:32:49] <xet7> So what about basic grinding with 3 axels, is that ok?
[23:34:00] <rcsu> paul_c: thanks that error disapeared
[23:34:30] <paul_c> Basic three axis coordinated motion is easy enough... EMC can go as far as six.
[23:35:56] <xet7> Can EMC show all X Y Z coordinate numbers in real time?
[23:36:07] <xet7> And distance to go?
[23:36:35] <Jymmm> xet7: Why don't you tru the BDI-Live cd for yourself =)
[23:36:38] <Jymmm> try
[23:36:46] <xet7> Just burning it right now :)
[23:37:22] <paul_c> The display is updated every 100mSec
[23:37:53] <paul_c> the data for "distance to go" is available in the realtime code....
[23:46:54] <Jacky^> driiink ! :PP