#emc | Logs for 2005-08-18

[21:16:12] <Jacky^> you thinl will never run emc on a palm pc ?
[21:16:26] <paul_c> * paul_c behaves.
[21:16:27] <alex_joni_> you can run a GUI on palm
[21:16:41] <Jacky^> i've GPE installed
[21:16:49] <Jacky^> arm cpu, 400 mzh
[21:17:01] <paul_c> If the processor is capable of running linux, and....
[21:17:11] <Jacky^> yeah, it can
[21:17:15] <paul_c> there is an RTAI patch for it, and....
[21:17:25] <Jacky^> but have not parport
[21:17:33] <paul_c> you have some digital IO to use...
[21:17:49] <paul_c> pcmcia slot ?
[21:17:56] <Jacky^> no..
[21:18:06] <alex_joni_> for a jogging thingie
[21:18:06] <alex_joni_> to move the machine around & co
[21:18:06] <alex_joni_> but I doubt a palm would be ok for all of emc
[21:18:06] <alex_joni_> would be ridiculous ;) although nice
[21:18:14] <Jacky^> i could buy a pcmcia adapter
[21:18:57] <Jacky^> here's what i'm using http://gpe.handhelds.org/screenshots/
[21:19:21] <Jacky^> BT also work fine, but have not wifi ..
[21:20:21] <Jacky^> sd card slot
[21:21:30] <Jacky^> if i rember well debian should have a cross compiler too
[21:22:31] <paul_c> which handheld ?
[21:22:40] <Jacky^> ipaq 3970
[21:24:30] <Jacky^> would be nice runnig emc on this toy :)
[21:25:09] <paul_c> PXA250 chip
[21:25:17] <Jacky^> probably
[21:25:21] <Jacky^> its 400 mhz
[21:27:14] <Jacky^> the problem could be the kernel maybe..
[21:27:26] <Jacky^> it run 2.4.19 i think
[21:30:37] <paul_c> well... There are some PXA patches....
[21:30:46] <Jacky^> :)))
[21:30:54] <paul_c> don't know if they will work with the pxa250
[21:31:04] <Jacky^> this mean kernel could be pached ?
[21:31:21] <paul_c> But I know a guy who is wanting to get RTAI running on a pxa250 board
[21:31:34] <Jacky^> then.. can work
[21:32:00] <Jacky^> i could compile the kernel using crosscompiler, i suppose
[21:32:20] <Jacky^> for arm processor ?
[21:32:29] <paul_c> You would need to subscribe to the RTAI mailing list & ask there..
[21:32:42] <Jacky^> right, ok :)
[21:33:00] <paul_c> https://mail.rtai.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rtai
[21:33:07] <Jacky^> paul_c: thanks
[21:34:24] <Jacky^> i think an hard hack could be necessary
[21:34:47] <Jacky^> will try ..
[21:36:38] <paul_c> If the patch doesn't work, it won't be an easy task fixing it.
[21:37:02] <Jacky^> mmm.. yeah
[21:42:27] <Jacky^> paul_c: How many bits I need, input or output ?
[21:43:00] <paul_c> * paul_c looks back at some old(ish) RTAI posts....
[21:43:18] <paul_c> Mike is planning on using a pxa27x board..
[21:43:47] <Jacky^> i'm asking in handhelds.org to know more about parport..
[21:44:17] <Jacky^> if is supported in some way
[21:49:48] <paul_c> There is a pxa255 patch for the 2.6.7 kernel
[21:50:18] <paul_c> <quote>
[21:50:18] <paul_c> Regarding the Adeos/ARM patches in vulcano: the PXA/2.6 patch is not as
[21:50:18] <paul_c> complete and has not been tested as thoroughly as the EP9301/2.4 patch.
[21:50:18] <paul_c> I did the EP9301 port as a commercial project and it is being used by
[21:50:19] <paul_c> our clients extensively. The PXA port was done by students at DIAPM as
[21:50:21] <paul_c> part of a course and according to Paolo "has been used somewhat". The
[21:50:21] <paul_c> assembler parts of the EP9301 patch are heavily commented so it might be
[21:50:22] <paul_c> helpful in understanding the low-level workings of Adeos/ARM.
[21:50:26] <paul_c> </quote>
[21:51:21] <Jacky^> interesting
[21:52:15] <paul_c> Mike Morely is looking at using fusion on his pxa27x boards
[21:54:07] <Jacky^> seem to be an hard work
[21:54:28] <paul_c> don't know what kernel version.... It might be possible to port some of the work across to magma
[21:55:29] <paul_c> it really depends on how good you are at low level programming and assembler.
[21:56:16] <Jacky^> understood ..
[22:11:54] <alex_joni> paul_c: finished cabling on the robot ;)
[22:14:16] <paul_c> scaled up version I hope...
[22:14:46] <alex_joni> http://www.robcon.ro/emc/positioner/Resize%20of%20HPIM5908.JPG
[22:17:22] <paul_c> Ah.. That puppy.
[22:17:31] <alex_joni> yeah
[22:17:57] <paul_c> I thought you were working on http://www.robcon.ro/emc/mytoy/Resize of HPIM4954.JPG
[22:18:29] <alex_joni> will be eventually ;)
[22:18:36] <alex_joni> but first thing's first
[22:18:41] <alex_joni> 1. finish with the stg stuff
[22:18:52] <alex_joni> 2. finish on the NML take 2
[22:19:01] <alex_joni> 3. other stuff ;)
[22:19:14] <alex_joni> 4. some day maybe I'll do a big version of mytoy
[22:19:22] <alex_joni> ahh.. and :
[22:19:30] <alex_joni> 0. going on vacation 2 1/2 weeks tomorrow
[22:20:07] <paul_c> * paul_c has 1. A support request for CD building with anaconda (his xml files are screwed...)
[22:20:35] <paul_c> 2. four 30A 180V servo amps for the mill (but no encoders yet)
[22:20:36] <alex_joni> isn't there a better alternative to anaconda?
[22:20:59] <alex_joni> 30x180=5.4 kW nice ;)
[22:21:05] <paul_c> define "better"
[22:21:11] <alex_joni> dunno ;)
[22:21:14] <alex_joni> the one debian uses
[22:21:29] <paul_c> 2) retrofit the lathe with emc properly...
[22:21:47] <paul_c> 4. rewrite the TP.
[22:22:01] <paul_c> 5. Fix threading support.
[22:22:30] <paul_c> No.6 I will hand off to JMK
[22:23:37] <paul_c> The last time I looked at di, it was a nasty ncurses thing.... Fine if you knew what you were doing..
[22:24:26] <alex_joni> di?
[22:24:34] <alex_joni> ahh.. debian-installer
[22:24:38] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is tired
[22:24:39] <paul_c> Certainly not a simple point'n'click task that a n00b could use
[22:25:34] <alex_joni> maybe you find smthg here: http://women.alioth.debian.org/
[22:26:38] <paul_c> * paul_c wonders if alex_joni is trying to say something that would result in a kick/ban...
[22:26:46] <alex_joni> :P
[22:26:51] <alex_joni> who, me?
[22:28:35] <paul_c> http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CustomDebian is a better link.
[22:30:08] <paul_c> di looks like it has a demo GUI...
[22:30:11] <paul_c> https://debian.polito.it/downloads/d-i_gtk_snapshots/
[22:30:58] <alex_joni> btw, did you hear of http://www.voipbuster.com/en/index.html ?
[22:32:17] <paul_c> Onne small prob...
[22:32:58] <paul_c> http://www.voipbuster.com/en/instructions.html - Min system requirements...
[22:35:03] <A-L-P-H-A> paul_c, I know you secretely have windows xp installed, running, with pretty icons for your desktop... don't lie. :)
[22:35:57] <A-L-P-H-A> does this mean I can call paul_c for free, if I install this? wonder would wine work with the voipbuster
[22:36:15] <alex_joni> A-L-P-H-A: you can call paul_c on skype for free
[22:36:25] <alex_joni> with this you could call users without internet ;)
[22:36:29] <alex_joni> on their payphone
[22:36:41] <alex_joni> but up to 1:00 min for free
[22:36:52] <alex_joni> 1 EURO deposit and it's supposed to work longer
[22:36:56] <A-L-P-H-A> 1minute, lame.
[22:37:10] <alex_joni> 1 eur is not much ;)
[22:37:19] <paul_c> How long do you need to say " " ??
[22:37:32] <A-L-P-H-A> $1.48CDN
[22:37:35] <alex_joni> errr...
[22:37:36] <A-L-P-H-A> www.xe.com
[22:38:10] <A-L-P-H-A> paul_c? "quote, space, space, quote" maybe about 3 seconds?
[22:38:32] <A-L-P-H-A> and then I'd probably need to repeat it... a few times, cause voip maybe screwing with it.
[22:39:01] <Jacky^> hi A-L-P-H-A
[22:39:05] <A-L-P-H-A> hi
[23:04:41] <paul_c> \o/ BDI-4.23 is ready for testing..
[23:04:58] <alex_joni> heh.. skipped a few numbers ;)
[23:05:39] <paul_c> nope. 4.21 was a bare build to test scsi installs.
[23:06:07] <paul_c> 4.22 was a 'custom' build for ******
[23:06:50] <alex_joni> heh
[23:11:36] <Yuga> hi all
[23:16:15] <Jacky^> hi Yuga
[23:16:27] <Jacky^> good sound ?
[23:16:39] <Jacky^> :P
[23:16:58] <Yuga> good sound??? where?
[23:23:30] <gezr> howdy ya'll
[23:27:47] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes to bed
[23:27:51] <alex_joni> night guys