#emc | Logs for 2005-07-20

[00:00:07] <fenn> cat /dev/lp0 ?
[00:00:09] <Jymmm> Jacky^ via DOS? nix?
[00:00:17] <Jacky^> Dos ?
[00:00:23] <Jacky^> ms ?
[00:00:35] <Jymmm> http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/parallel_output.html
[00:00:53] <fenn> rofl
[00:01:09] <Jacky^> :)
[00:01:18] <Jymmm> theres mentin of linux too
[00:01:33] <Jacky^> yeah.. i've seen
[00:02:01] <Jymmm> hell, even via the web
[00:02:14] <Jacky^> I think i will write a small routine to check the state the write as need..
[00:02:35] <Jacky^> some pin should be used manually free
[00:02:49] <Jacky^> others in a cron jobs
[00:04:01] <Jacky^> Phydbleep: I use some 4n33 to prevent damage on circuit
[00:04:11] <Jacky^> it seem work fine
[00:04:22] <Jacky^> for now..
[00:08:14] <robin_sz> personally, for doing it from a corn job
[00:08:22] <robin_sz> I'd use some Perl :)
[00:09:27] <robin_sz> http://search.cpan.org/~scott/Device-ParallelPort-1.00/lib/Device/ParallelPort.pm
[00:09:38] <robin_sz> set_bit ( BITNUMBER, VALUE )
[00:09:39] <robin_sz> Setting a bit is very handy method. This is the method I use above all others, in particular to turn on and off rellays.
[00:09:50] <robin_sz> (from the docs)
[00:10:37] <Jacky^> robin_sz: nice :)
[00:10:45] <robin_sz> you know how to install it?
[00:11:10] <Jacky^> i'm going to see..
[00:11:17] <robin_sz> as root ...
[00:11:19] <robin_sz> type
[00:11:24] <Jacky^> it's a tarball source code ?
[00:11:27] <robin_sz> perl -MCPAN -e shell
[00:11:52] <robin_sz> (answer all the dumb questions if it is the first time you use cpan)
[00:11:56] <robin_sz> then just type
[00:12:12] <robin_sz> install Device::ParallelPort
[00:12:27] <robin_sz> and it installs it plus any dependencies
[00:12:35] <robin_sz> a bit like apt-get for debian
[00:12:49] <Jacky^> robin_sz: nice, thanks :-)
[00:13:33] <robin_sz> I like Perl for simple stuff like that
[00:14:30] <Jacky^> I love Ruby, but Perl is great
[00:14:41] <robin_sz> the CPAN module makes installing perl pakages a really easy ting
[00:18:25] <Jacky^> uhm
[00:18:36] <Jacky^> Warning: ncftpget not found in PATH
[00:18:51] <Jacky^> I cant' find it
[00:19:06] <robin_sz> thats OK, usually it tries ncftpget, lwp, ftp ...
[00:19:14] <robin_sz> several things.
[00:19:20] <robin_sz> usually one of them works
[00:19:34] <robin_sz> you use debian?
[00:19:39] <Jacky^> yes,
[00:19:54] <robin_sz> wait ...
[00:20:19] <Jacky^> i searched for a packeage with apt-cache,
[00:20:29] <Jacky^> ah, Debian Sid
[00:20:56] <robin_sz> try apt-getting libwww-per
[00:20:59] <robin_sz> l
[00:21:02] <Jacky^> ok
[00:21:05] <robin_sz> libwww-perl
[00:21:17] <robin_sz> thats LWP support ..
[00:21:24] <robin_sz> cpan should find that and use it
[00:21:29] <Jacky^> already installed
[00:21:33] <robin_sz> ahh
[00:21:34] <Jacky^> ok, np
[00:21:42] <Jacky^> I can skip this option
[00:21:51] <robin_sz> right
[00:22:00] <robin_sz> it shold find soemthing else to use OK
[00:22:42] <robin_sz> usually I just accept all the defualts, :)
[00:22:54] <Jacky^> yeah :)
[00:24:57] <robin_sz> ok, bedtime for me
[00:25:18] <Jacky^> Gnight robin_sz
[00:25:26] <Jacky^> thanks
[00:25:35] <robin_sz> np
[00:41:53] <fenn> anyone know about reconstructing 3d models automatically from photos?
[00:42:38] <Jacky^> fenn: i tried deskart, not bad at all
[00:43:05] <Jacky^> If I understand well what you mean..
[00:44:12] <Jacky^> the best i've seen is artcam facewizard(for human model)
[00:46:52] <fenn> heh deskart is not at all what i meant
[00:47:11] <Jacky^> ImageToGcode ?
[00:47:23] <Jacky^> maybe ?
[00:47:27] <fenn> no.. take a picture, then rotate 30 degrees, take another picture, etc
[00:47:40] <fenn> real 3d
[00:47:45] <Jacky^> never heard ..
[00:47:51] <fenn> i think its called photogrammetry
[00:48:01] <fenn> but when i search, all i get are map-making and satellite image software
[00:48:25] <Jacky^> should be funny
[00:48:28] <Jacky^> :)
[00:49:04] <Jacky^> do you like satellite images ?
[00:49:27] <fenn> no they are evil
[00:49:30] <fenn> :P
[00:49:43] <Jacky^> hehe
[00:50:16] <fenn> http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000130045701/ but without the laser
[00:50:49] <fenn> you can do what i'm talking about with just your brain
[00:51:04] <fenn> take two pictures, one shifted to the right or left a little bit
[00:51:11] <fenn> then cross your eyes, and it will look 3-D
[00:51:14] <Jacky^> wow
[00:51:26] <Jacky^> I think should be hard ..
[00:51:45] <Jacky^> not for all I mean
[00:57:39] <fenn> hmmmmm.......
[01:00:09] <fenn> this looks promising: http://sans.chem.umbc.edu/~nicholas/blender/3dscan/
[01:01:27] <Jacky^> yeah, nice
[01:26:03] <Jacky^> Gnight
[01:26:08] <Jymmm> night
[01:32:31] <fenn> even better http://www.cg.cs.tu-bs.de/people/lancelle/3dscanner/index
[03:21:08] <SWPadnos> SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away
[03:22:39] <Jymmm> what, you come in to change your nick SWP_Away ?! wth is that shit?!
[05:37:49] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm, what's going on?
[05:37:53] <A-L-P-H-A> how's the machine and stufF?
[06:08:21] <Jymmm> Well....
[06:08:47] <Jymmm> In respect to the machine... they'll ship the parts out tomorrow.
[06:10:11] <Jymmm> In respect to the steppers and driver board... It took him two days to respond to emails, gave excuse, doesn't actually read the emails in theri entirty, and says it'll take two weeks to repair the board.
[06:10:19] <Jymmm> I'm NOT a happy camper.
[06:10:54] <Jymmm> At least Ks has some customer service, Xylotex makes me feel that once i gave him my money... now fuck off.
[06:11:01] <Jymmm> s/Ks/K2/
[06:11:52] <Jymmm> When you have an internet business, you RESPOND timely to the only communication method there is... email.
[06:12:40] <Jymmm> When is mariss suppose to release his usb controller thing?
[06:49:34] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm, last week.
[06:49:51] <A-L-P-H-A> he stll doesn't have them up on his site.
[06:49:59] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm. so complain.
[06:51:20] <Jymmm> lol, I dont think he KNOWS he has a website....
[08:18:41] <A-L-P-H-A> he knows... but they hire outside help for it.
[08:31:17] <Jymmm> ah, well he needs to fire them!
[08:37:47] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm... are you a reasonable person? or are you one of those people that believe that if you pay $0.01 for something it should be the same quality as $1,000,000 item?
[08:46:57] <Jymmm> It should be what it's described as. nothing more, nothing less.
[09:11:01] <Yuga> any one know what the current time is in australia?
[09:34:09] <Phydbleep> GMT +8:00
[09:34:45] <Phydbleep> Roughly 16:45
[09:35:18] <Phydbleep> At least that's what time it should be in Perth
[09:35:55] <Yuga> aaarrrggg... bladdy ozzies
[09:36:09] <Yuga> was hoping to get my quote today
[09:36:14] <Phydbleep> Beer-Thirty?
[09:36:26] <Yuga> Phydbleep... and full of shite!
[09:36:43] <Phydbleep> Quarter till Beer?
[10:13:02] <jopingo> hello
[10:24:49] <Jacky^> hi
[10:30:23] <jopingo> hi jacky
[10:31:07] <Jacky^> hi jopingo
[10:46:45] <anonimasu_> morning
[21:16:17] <cradek> Jacky^: ha
[21:16:31] <Jacky^> hey cradek
[21:16:43] <cradek> is one of these people you?
[21:16:51] <Jacky^> no..
[21:17:05] <Jacky^> I've not webcam
[21:22:43] <Jacky^> Restil seem to be a nice girl :)
[21:23:41] <Jacky^> a little baby, really..
[21:23:52] <Jacky^> Jymmm: what's up there ?
[21:23:55] <Jacky^> hot ?
[21:25:13] <Jacky^> today here we haved a very hot day: 37 �
[21:26:02] <Jymmm> it's ok. inside is cool, outside warm. will get hotter in a couple hours.
[21:26:03] <cradek> it will be 40 here this weekend
[21:26:23] <Jacky^> :\
[21:26:30] <cradek> we're all used to it I guess
[21:27:12] <cradek> better than -25 in the winter
[21:29:07] <Jacky^> yeah, here is an unstable summer, very strange
[21:29:47] <Jacky^> one day rain, another sun, another strong wind
[21:29:55] <Jacky^> and so on..
[21:37:10] <Jymmm> OH WTF..... Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
[21:37:10] <Jymmm> soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
[21:37:10] <Jymmm> shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
[21:37:10] <Jymmm> cigarette lighters."
[21:37:54] <SWPadnos> of course, they aren't carrying weapons ona commercial flight - so this makes perfect sense
[21:38:15] <Jymmm> They had M16 on their shoulder
[21:38:20] <SWPadnos> (they can't be talking about rangers heading for a drop :) )
[21:39:01] <SWPadnos> ah - these were soldiers acting as security at an airport?
[21:39:32] <Jacky^> mmmhh.. I remember something in Lax airport ...
[21:39:33] <Jymmm> no, chartered DC-10 to Kuwait City
[21:40:18] <SWPadnos> realize that though they were carrying M16's, they probably had no ammunition. That isn't generally handed around until you're in a situation where they think you'll need it
[21:40:33] <SWPadnos> and even then, it's inventoried
[21:42:38] <Jymmm> do you teally think an inventory of ammo is gonna matter?
[21:42:42] <Jymmm> really
[21:42:48] <SWPadnos> yes
[21:42:59] <Jymmm> lol
[21:43:08] <SWPadnos> I would assume that they had no ammo, but they still had big clubs
[21:43:20] <SWPadnos> (butt-stroke to the head)
[21:43:50] <SWPadnos> they would have had to hand over anything other than the US government property that was inventoried.
[21:43:52] <Jymmm> they had ammo btw
[21:44:02] <SWPadnos> either way
[21:44:36] <SWPadnos> at the end of the trip, anyone that didn't have all their ammo would probably be tried for something
[21:45:22] <SWPadnos> it's all about accountability - if they are let through with an unknown number of knives etc., then one could leave those items somewhere for someone else to pick up later
[21:45:26] <SWPadnos> not so with the rifle
[21:46:18] <SWPadnos> it puts an unknown number of weapons into a supposedly secure zone - they would never be able to prove security there again, without a full search (with nobody allowed in the security area during the search)