#emc | Logs for 2005-04-23

[01:28:09] <A-L-P-H-A> who knows how to use a grinding wheel on a lathe? Outside grinding...
[01:32:53] <Ircaddict> uhhhh
[01:32:56] <Ircaddict> not me
[01:34:15] <A-L-P-H-A> Ircaddict, well you're LOTSA help.
[01:34:30] <A-L-P-H-A> les... would know.
[01:34:37] <A-L-P-H-A> he knows everything I need to know.
[01:34:59] <A-L-P-H-A> who else in here would know... no one that I know of... gezr would know too. but he's not kicking
[07:53:37] <Phydbleep> A-L-P-H-A: What are you trying to grind?
[07:55:00] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep has a lathe and know how to setup a grinder..
[10:24:52] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep beats A-L-P-H-A with a stick..
[10:30:34] <Phydbleep> anonimasu! :)
[10:30:38] <anonimasu> morning
[10:31:20] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep was just beating A-L-P-H-A with a stick..
[10:31:43] <anonimasu> nice
[10:31:47] <anonimasu> * anonimasu beats A-L-P-H-A
[10:32:25] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep gets bored and sticks A-L-P-H-A with a beat.. The lame ass one they use for the music in cheap pornos...
[10:32:37] <Phydbleep> Hehehe.. :)
[10:34:55] <Phydbleep> Wow.. I'm impressed.. "New Skin - Liquid Bandage" is the shiznit..
[10:36:02] <anonimasu> HM
[10:36:04] <anonimasu> ok
[10:36:05] <anonimasu> * anonimasu yawns
[10:36:07] <Phydbleep> I could have stuffed a quarter in the slice in my toe last night.. Now it's just a red line with a slight gloss to the skin around it.
[10:36:25] <anonimasu> I should have a shower then head off to work
[10:36:48] <Phydbleep> Work? On a Saturday? BLASPHEMER! :)
[10:37:36] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep prays for anonimasu's weekend.
[10:38:46] <anonimasu> :)
[10:39:29] <Phydbleep> Oh Great Oly, That from which all cheap beer flows..
[10:40:19] <Phydbleep> We beseach thee to take pity on this poor wretched sinner and deliver him to the corner tavern..
[10:41:08] <anonimasu> ^_^
[10:41:15] <Phydbleep> And lead him not to the temptation that is Coors..
[10:41:31] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... Hows that for a prayer for your weekend?
[10:50:41] <anonimasu> godo
[10:50:45] <anonimasu> what's coors?
[10:50:53] <Phydbleep> Bear piss?
[10:51:00] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... :)
[10:51:14] <anonimasu> sounds like what we call beer over here ;)
[10:51:21] <anonimasu> brb, shower
[10:51:35] <Phydbleep> Coors is more like screwing in a canoe..
[10:54:03] <Phydbleep> Or the white label stuff that just says "BEER".
[11:49:38] <anonimasu> well time to head back to work
[12:42:06] <anonimasu> iab
[17:43:46] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... picked on while I'm not here.
[17:43:57] <A-L-P-H-A> Phydbleep, grinding mild steel.
[17:46:01] <anonimasu> hey
[17:58:12] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu, hey
[17:59:02] <anonimasu> wuzzah?!
[17:59:10] <anonimasu> *yawns*
[17:59:20] <A-L-P-H-A> what time is it there?
[17:59:24] <anonimasu> 19:59
[17:59:31] <A-L-P-H-A> Time: 14:00:09 -0500 GMT, Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), AMD XP 2800+ running at (1-AMD , 2123MHz, 512KB (0% Load)), DDR400 RAM Usage: 602/1024MB (58.79%), C: 47.01gb of 75.42gb free, D: 0gb of 0gb free, N: 47.15gb of 372.62gb free, Current Uptime: 3days 20hrs 47mins 36secs, Record Uptime: 3wks 12hrs 48mins 50secs, 3 Samsung 19" flat monitors (1 Trinitron, 2 CRT).
[18:00:36] <A-L-P-H-A> so has everyone flown over to the states for codefest?
[18:00:42] <anonimasu> I have no idea
[18:00:55] <A-L-P-H-A> like no one's here.
[18:01:06] <A-L-P-H-A> paul's gone, les... swpadnos.
[18:01:09] <A-L-P-H-A> rayh
[18:01:12] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[18:01:13] <A-L-P-H-A> probably has.
[18:02:54] <anonimasu> A-L-P-H-A is blocking messages from unidentified users. You must register and identify with NickServ before talking to this user.�'
[18:03:09] <A-L-P-H-A> buhahaha. :D
[18:03:23] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu. you need to register your nick.
[18:03:25] <anonimasu> nah
[18:03:32] <anonimasu> ;)
[18:03:38] <anonimasu> checking my mail is such a hassle
[18:03:40] <A-L-P-H-A> type /msg nickserv help
[18:04:23] <anonimasu> I'll do it later tonight..
[18:04:34] <anonimasu> going to go for a drive to check if anyone's at the lan party..
[18:05:04] <A-L-P-H-A> admit it... you're cruising for hookers.
[18:05:13] <anonimasu> lol
[18:05:22] <anonimasu> the closest hookers from here is in finland..
[18:05:23] <A-L-P-H-A> heard of the PHONE?
[18:05:29] <A-L-P-H-A> finland hookers...
[18:05:33] <A-L-P-H-A> wonder if they look good.
[18:05:46] <A-L-P-H-A> I wonder if sweden has many hookers...
[18:06:13] <A-L-P-H-A> or the swiss...
[18:06:22] <anonimasu> hm, I wouldnt know
[18:06:25] <A-L-P-H-A> I know the denmark does.
[18:06:26] <anonimasu> probably as many as in usa..
[18:06:30] <A-L-P-H-A> red light district and all.
[18:06:33] <anonimasu> more in denmark though
[18:06:35] <A-L-P-H-A> and those dirty English.
[18:06:45] <A-L-P-H-A> USA has tones.
[18:06:46] <A-L-P-H-A> tons.
[18:07:11] <A-L-P-H-A> probably all the hookers, would in USA would equal the total population of some small countries.
[18:07:25] <A-L-P-H-A> probably all the hookers in USA would equal the total population of some small countries.
[18:07:26] <A-L-P-H-A> there.
[18:07:27] <anonimasu> lol..
[18:07:31] <anonimasu> there's less here I think
[18:07:51] <A-L-P-H-A> Italy there's some... or so this documentary made it out to be...
[18:08:02] <A-L-P-H-A> Albanian sex slaves...
[18:08:16] <anonimasu> :(
[18:08:40] <A-L-P-H-A> this was a "national geographic" documentary, on human cargo/slave trade.
[18:08:50] <anonimasu> that's horrid
[18:09:07] <A-L-P-H-A> it's not SLAVES in the sense of ball and chain... but take a fish out of it's element, and it's hard for it to survive without help.
[18:09:22] <anonimasu> I know what you mean
[18:09:33] <anonimasu> you cant go anywhere without a passport..
[18:09:34] <A-L-P-H-A> so... people that trade human lives, tricks/kidnaps a victim, and moves them elsewhere, and forces them to do stuff.
[18:09:41] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu, SMUGGLING.
[18:09:51] <anonimasu> A-L-P-H-A: like anyone of thoose people can afford that?
[18:10:04] <A-L-P-H-A> and so, if your captors take your passport, they own you... cause you don' speak the language.
[18:10:10] <anonimasu> yep
[18:23:58] <dmess> Hi all
[19:18:35] <A-L-P-H-A> * A-L-P-H-A notices that everyone likes to ignore dmess.
[19:22:43] <dave-e> paul hiding?
[19:22:55] <A-L-P-H-A> codefest.
[19:22:57] <A-L-P-H-A> I believe.
[19:23:12] <dave-e> oh yeh...starts monday
[19:23:33] <dave-e> anyone using tool length?
[19:24:13] <A-L-P-H-A> my tools length is none of your business.
[19:24:35] <dave-e> you are not a machine...maybe a robot :-)
[19:25:06] <dave-e> i get wierd response after a g43 hn
[19:25:45] <A-L-P-H-A> dave-e. sorry... I don't know it. I actually repostion the tool most of the time. Or I just use ONE tool.
[19:25:55] <A-L-P-H-A> for the whole part.
[19:26:08] <dave-e> my parts take multiple tools
[19:26:46] <A-L-P-H-A> as long as your better half doesn't take multiple tools. :)
[19:26:54] <dave-e> using 2.18 and month old cvs
[19:27:19] <dave-e> invoke tool length with g43 H1 (first tool)
[19:27:34] <dave-e> z display immediately shows tool length
[19:27:54] <dave-e> g1 x 1 y 1
[19:28:02] <dave-e> and z heads for the deck
[19:28:23] <dave-e> only if one commands a discrete z does it work
[19:28:26] <dmess> add the g43 to the 1st Z move line
[19:28:52] <dmess> 3 surface startup should work too
[19:29:05] <dave-e> ok i'm easy
[19:29:21] <dave-e> so G1 g43 h1 x 1 y 1
[19:29:39] <dmess> make your post say goo x ...y .... s...m3
[19:29:50] <dmess> g43 z ... h.... m8
[19:30:09] <dave-e> ah i'll go tryit.
[19:30:11] <dave-e> tnx
[19:30:44] <dmess> works on everthing else ive worked on
[19:30:53] <dave-e> sounds good
[19:31:01] <dave-e> I'm gone
[19:31:40] <dmess> ALPHA... wifey bought a new multi function print/scan/fax machine that makes scanning manuals a breeze
[19:43:55] <A-L-P-H-A> dmess, why are you scanning manuals? you own them already.
[19:49:07] <dmess> a cd or ftp site is alot lighter to carry
[19:49:38] <dmess> Toshiba only sent hard copies
[19:50:10] <A-L-P-H-A> it's a photo/scan/fax thingier... how hard could it be?
[19:51:23] <dmess> double sided... into pdf... an i think they are right... shees feeder
[19:51:31] <dmess> sheet
[19:52:44] <alex_joni> hello
[19:52:53] <dmess> alo
[19:53:03] <alex_joni> hey dmess
[19:53:06] <alex_joni> what's up?
[19:53:24] <dmess> not me...
[19:53:58] <A-L-P-H-A> dmess, I bet your kid could figure it out, quicker than you could read the manual.
[19:54:13] <A-L-P-H-A> when I was 3... my mother didn't know how to operate the photo copier...
[19:54:24] <dmess> had some bad news this am... ex -canadian hang/paragliding champion died yesterday at Quest air in Fla.
[19:54:53] <A-L-P-H-A> a neightbour was over babysitting me... and saw me plug in the photocopier into the wall, turn it on, and photocopy my hand, and turn it off, and unplug it.
[19:55:16] <dmess> diving for a bag a money... ; (
[19:55:34] <dmess> maybe $250.00
[19:55:44] <dmess> just a shame
[19:55:50] <A-L-P-H-A> diving in a paraglider? for a physical bag of money? or a prize?
[19:55:58] <A-L-P-H-A> my life is worth more then $250.
[19:56:15] <A-L-P-H-A> it's worth... well... depend son how long I get to live after getting that money.
[19:56:49] <A-L-P-H-A> say, I'm 25 now... and I get $5billion dollars, and I get to live for another 50 years. I'd do it.
[19:57:10] <dmess> he was flyin' in the HG competition... but as a side note the pilots had a stuffsac of $$ if you could skim and grab it .. then go for it...
[19:57:40] <A-L-P-H-A> dmess, buahhaha. Darwinian evolution working it's magic. :)
[19:57:56] <A-L-P-H-A> sorry, I have no pitty on stupidity.
[19:59:04] <dmess> was a trashy day... he come in at over 85 mph and hooke the base bar... snapped the front flyin wire and pancaked int the planet.. i figure with about 31 G force
[20:00:04] <dmess> was only wearing a bean bucket .. not a full face... he died en-rout to hospital
[20:01:24] <dmess> his father died in a paraglider about '98 or so.. his dad was insirational in inventing HG & PG in canada
[20:10:05] <A-L-P-H-A> cool sport... I'd do it for the relaxing value... not the thrill value.
[20:10:29] <dmess> thats the thing to do it for...
[20:10:44] <A-L-P-H-A> I don't do it through...
[20:10:53] <A-L-P-H-A> I wanna go skydiving again.
[20:11:17] <dmess> when you make a bad decision in thes sport its not just some busted up teeth
[20:11:23] <A-L-P-H-A> well, it was technically parachuting.
[20:11:50] <A-L-P-H-A> I had a natural high for like a week I think.
[20:12:13] <dmess> oh thatw how your 1st high flight makes ya feel
[20:12:58] <A-L-P-H-A> fuck. I feel stupid... planning on what to wear now for this date I have tonight.
[20:13:45] <dmess> wanna impress.... go naked
[20:14:21] <A-L-P-H-A> You know... I don't even want to get naked with her, "today". It's the first date.
[20:16:01] <dmess> what kinda attitude is that... she want to het laid... man .. get'r'gone....
[20:18:16] <A-L-P-H-A> The kind of attitute that I want to get for the 3rd date.
[20:19:09] <dmess> good luck... ; )
[20:19:34] <dmess> clean up and make yourself smell pretty
[20:23:42] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm.. nap. vacuum car. shower, and stuff. head out.
[20:24:34] <dmess> ; )
[20:27:58] <dmess> new job has a cafeteria... not just a lunch room
[20:28:13] <A-L-P-H-A> where? the place by olympia?
[20:29:01] <dmess> yes... Messier-Dowty... make landing gear..
[20:31:08] <A-L-P-H-A> Do they have cafeteria food? can anyone go into there and order cafeteria food?
[20:31:38] <A-L-P-H-A> with those sexy cafeteria ladies with moles, and big hairnets.
[20:31:49] <A-L-P-H-A> and those rubber gloves surving you slope onto a tray.
[20:31:51] <A-L-P-H-A> yumyum.
[20:32:14] <dmess> my 2nd day i got an e mail from the head chef askin if i had and kosher or vegitarian requirments...
[20:32:41] <dmess> The Hangar Caf�
[20:32:41] <dmess> Menu for the Week of: April 25-29
[20:32:41] <dmess> Day of the Week Soup of the Day Grill Special Main Entr�e
[20:32:41] <dmess> Monday Cream of Cauliflower Whistle Dog (Bacon
[20:32:41] <dmess> & Cheese) w/ Teriyaki Beef Wraps w/ Fries or Salad
[20:32:41] <dmess> Fries or Salad
[20:32:43] <dmess> **Vegetarian Wraps w/ Salad**
[20:32:45] <dmess> Tuesday Navy Bean Same
[20:32:47] <dmess> Macaroni w/ Meat or Vegetarian Sauce w/ Caesar
[20:32:49] <dmess> Salad
[20:32:51] <dmess> Wednesday Chicken Noodle Same Chicken Bakes or Vegetarian
[20:32:53] <dmess> Bakes w/ Fries or Salad
[20:32:56] <dmess> ***Display Cooking***
[20:32:57] <dmess> Omelet Bar
[20:32:59] <dmess> Thursday Pasta Fagoli Same
[20:33:01] <dmess> Homestyle Baked Ham w/ Scalloped Potatoes &
[20:33:03] <dmess> Vegetable
[20:33:05] <dmess> Friday All Day Breakfast!!!
[20:33:07] <dmess> Menu Subject To Change.
[20:35:32] <dmess> i could get fat there
[20:51:53] <Phydbleep> A-L-P-H-A: Did you get your grinder set up?
[20:52:10] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep comes wandering back from the land of Zzzzzzzzzzzz.
[20:59:58] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
[20:59:58] <Red70sShow> Red70sShow is now known as Jymmm
[21:39:04] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/emctask/emctaskmain.cc: (log message trimmed)
[21:39:04] <CIA-8> Interpreter startup test changed to fix incorrect g-code in the ini file from preventing the interpreter to load.
[21:39:04] <CIA-8> Bad g-code will simply return the error, but not kick out the startup of the interpreter.
[21:39:04] <CIA-8> emctaskPlanClose() 'if' conditionals fixed. Limit switch hits, etc, would cause
[21:39:04] <CIA-8> continuous calls to emctaskPlanClose(). These checks were apparently in place at
[21:39:04] <CIA-8> one point previous to this. On my system, the task period is fast enough that
[21:39:06] <CIA-8> the repeated calls to emctaskPlanClose() would trip off the 'limit overide'
[21:41:55] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/emctask/emctask.cc:
[21:41:55] <CIA-8> Added axes in position check to the MDI call to rs274ngc_synch().
[21:41:55] <CIA-8> This fixes the MDI bug with axis motion on un-specified axes, if those axes were in motion when the command was given.
[21:44:54] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/emctask/emcsh.cc: #ifdef'd the INCH_PER_MM to get rid of a compiler warning from the inclusion of rs274ngc.hh in emc.hh
[21:48:23] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/emcnml/ (emc.cc emc.hh):
[21:48:23] <CIA-8> Include rs274ngc.hh, to get fix use of hard coded values here dependent on the values set in rs274ngc.hh.
[21:49:20] <robin_sz> meep?
[21:50:35] <dmess> nice config CIA-8
[21:52:41] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/rs274ngc_new/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)
[21:52:42] <CIA-8> 1. G92 fixes and modifications (added P<coordinate sys 1-9> modifier, to set origin offsets as if G10)
[21:52:42] <CIA-8> 2. G10 fixes and modifications
[21:52:42] <CIA-8> 3. Coordinate system change save G92 offsets and take them
[21:52:42] <CIA-8> out of effect. (Can be left on via P2 modifier)
[21:52:42] <CIA-8> 4. No MDI error check bug fixed
[21:52:43] <CIA-8> 5. P value check added to convert_coordinate_system()
[21:53:00] <Jymmm> * Jymmm pokes robin_sz with a <insert somethign here>
[21:53:29] <robin_sz> ooh, lots of mods to the interp ...
[21:53:40] <robin_sz> kewl ...
[21:54:35] <robin_sz> isn't there supposed to be a shed load of mods to the interp waiting, like subroutines etc?
[21:55:37] <robin_sz> mined ewe, even those few look worthwhile backporting into the G200X interp ...
[21:55:55] <Jymmm> backporting?
[21:56:03] <robin_sz> yeah
[21:56:07] <robin_sz> you know ...
[21:56:08] <Jymmm> how come?
[21:56:28] <robin_sz> the emc interp was ported to the Rabbit for use on the G200X
[21:56:33] <robin_sz> so ..
[21:56:59] <robin_sz> as mods get made to the interp, we have to backport them onto the code we have in the G200X codebase
[21:57:19] <robin_sz> its a pretty manual thing
[21:57:36] <Jymmm> oh, two differnet "projects" huh?
[21:57:43] <robin_sz> yeah
[21:57:50] <Jymmm> I didn't realize that.
[21:58:10] <robin_sz> yeah, the G200x is nothing to do with emc, we just use the interp
[21:58:11] <Jymmm> is that the purpose of emc2?
[21:58:19] <robin_sz> emc2? no
[21:58:27] <Jymmm> to eliminate the backporting?
[21:58:46] <robin_sz> emc2 was meant to be a clean break from emc, to rid ourselves of the cruft
[21:58:53] <Jymmm> ah
[21:58:57] <robin_sz> except ...
[21:59:06] <robin_sz> plenty of cruft followed us
[22:00:30] <Jymmm> So, what (if anything) is Mariss trying to adhere to "standards" wise?
[22:00:43] <Jymmm> pure step/dir and gcode?
[22:00:59] <robin_sz> mmmm
[22:01:02] <robin_sz> right now ...
[22:01:09] <robin_sz> it does step/dir
[22:01:17] <robin_sz> (at anything up to 4 mhz)
[22:01:25] <robin_sz> has the emc interp
[22:01:32] <robin_sz> (emc1 variant_
[22:01:42] <Jymmm> ah
[22:01:48] <robin_sz> so 6 chn of motion
[22:01:56] <robin_sz> and 4 analogue in/outs
[22:01:59] <robin_sz> 8 bit
[22:02:01] <robin_sz> 16 ins
[22:02:07] <robin_sz> 16 outs too
[22:02:16] <robin_sz> of straight digital IO
[22:02:36] <robin_sz> plus .... ;)
[22:02:40] <Jymmm> Huh? you mena an interface board?
[22:02:40] <robin_sz> coming soon
[22:03:01] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/rs274ngc_new/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)
[22:03:01] <CIA-8> Rev 2: (of 4)
[22:03:01] <CIA-8> 1. Optional allow MS-DOS format files, and files w/o RS274NGC delimiters,
[22:03:01] <CIA-8> '%', M02, or M30.
[22:03:01] <CIA-8> RS274NGC_FILE_DELIMITERS used to turn on and off strict adherence
[22:03:02] <CIA-8> at compile time, rs274ngc.hh. Default is off.
[22:03:03] <robin_sz> no
[22:03:04] <CIA-8> 2. Semi-colon comment capability
[22:03:08] <robin_sz> not an interface baord
[22:03:19] <robin_sz> a full motion controller
[22:03:26] <robin_sz> complete with emc interp
[22:03:29] <Jymmm> oh, no computer huh?
[22:03:32] <robin_sz> and a procesor
[22:04:07] <robin_sz> thats a possibilty .. right now it has a USB lead and a display as gUI on a PC or laptop
[22:04:37] <robin_sz> but you could make up some push buttons and a keypad if you wanted
[22:05:21] <Jymmm> seems redundant, especially on how cheap computers are these days. But I suspect it's an "embedded" all-in-one soltuion
[22:05:51] <robin_sz> yeah, just using a laptop is my preferrd choice .. with one of these cards it really sings
[22:06:17] <Jymmm> just like a headless computer
[22:06:43] <Jymmm> I love sparc stations for that...
[22:06:59] <Jymmm> just toss on a serial cable and you gor console!
[22:07:06] <Jymmm> or a modem
[22:07:33] <Jymmm> s/gor/got/
[22:07:56] <robin_sz> I prefer a laptop and a wireless card
[22:08:16] <Jymmm> wireless + robotic == bad thing imo
[22:08:24] <robin_sz> true
[22:08:44] <Jymmm> Love the concept, just dont' trust it.
[22:09:06] <Jymmm> even with security/encryption
[22:09:12] <robin_sz> thats what I like about htis powered off USB
[22:09:40] <A-L-P-H-A> Phydbleep, no.
[22:09:40] <robin_sz> if the laptop dies, everything stops
[22:09:51] <Jymmm> you hope =)
[22:10:03] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz, no codefest for you?
[22:10:38] <robin_sz> nah
[22:11:02] <Phydbleep> A-L-P-H-A: So WTH are you trying to grind? Just a round smooth patch or is it a cam?
[22:11:48] <robin_sz> A-L-P-H-A: I think my days with emc are about done ..
[22:12:21] <Jymmm> robin_sz ?
[22:13:22] <robin_sz> ?
[22:13:36] <Jymmm> robin_sz you leaving emc?
[22:13:47] <robin_sz> leaving? its not soemting you join is it?
[22:14:08] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: He's wondering why you're thinking of buggering off, Me too. :)
[22:14:38] <robin_sz> well ... having played with the G200X ... emc is so far behind now, its unlikely to ever catch up
[22:14:58] <Phydbleep> G200X?
[22:15:08] <robin_sz> the geckodrive motion controller
[22:15:53] <Phydbleep> Ahh.. :)
[22:16:05] <robin_sz> now .. that thing can spin motors
[22:16:38] <Phydbleep> I've never seen one, But figure it's a embedded solution.
[22:17:03] <Jymmm> robin_sz didnt you say it's based upon emc?
[22:17:16] <robin_sz> its a bord on a USB lead, with the EMC interpreter for gcode and produces pulses for step/dir drives
[22:17:25] <robin_sz> Jymmm: it uses the emc interp
[22:18:23] <Jymmm> robin_sz pics?
[22:18:43] <robin_sz> http://www.quacky.co.uk/~robin/G200X.jpg
[22:19:14] <robin_sz> there are other versions in cases, with screw terminals etc for those that like that sort of thing
[22:19:16] <Phydbleep> PC104 bus?
[22:19:20] <robin_sz> USB
[22:19:39] <Phydbleep> No, The 2xX berg conn in the middle.
[22:19:52] <robin_sz> oh, no
[22:20:01] <robin_sz> thats where the Rabbot plugs in
[22:20:05] <robin_sz> Rabbit
[22:20:14] <robin_sz> little 22mhz Z80 based thing
[22:20:28] <robin_sz> runs the interp, planms the motion, runs the IO etc
[22:21:08] <Jymmm> flashable I suspect?
[22:21:12] <robin_sz> yep
[22:21:14] <Phydbleep> Ahh... That's what I'm going to be using a PIC-18F452x for..
[22:21:24] <Phydbleep> 40mHz. :)
[22:21:30] <robin_sz> I like the rabbits ...
[22:21:37] <Jymmm> whats this rabbit thing (no pink nose I suspect)
[22:21:58] <robin_sz> they come wit 512K ram. 512K flash and plenty of IO for like 30GBP
[22:22:32] <Phydbleep> Hehehe.. Mine are ~$12. :)
[22:23:31] <Jymmm> wb
[22:23:36] <robin_sz> bah
[22:23:39] <Phydbleep> He's back! :)
[22:23:42] <robin_sz> X just shat itself
[22:23:50] <robin_sz> Jymmm: http://www.zworld.com/
[22:24:26] <robin_sz> the dev kit is like 180 USD ... with compiler, leads, dev board, a rabbit etc
[22:24:36] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: WTF? Are you trying to run emc/xmms/vlc and Doom-III all on the same box?
[22:24:43] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/rs274ngc_new/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)
[22:24:43] <CIA-8> Rev 3: (3 of 4)
[22:24:43] <CIA-8> 1. Abstracted m code names in the same manner as g-codes.
[22:24:43] <CIA-8> 2. Changed m-code handling to a 2D array
[22:24:43] <CIA-8> of the form m_modes[mode][<index>], where <index> is the LETTER_INDEX enum
[22:24:43] <CIA-8> set in rs274ngc.hh. (CODE, P, Q currently)
[22:24:46] <CIA-8> P and Q hold an index to the related value stack, and CODE holds the m-code
[22:25:01] <robin_sz> ooh, lots of mods coming in ...
[22:25:55] <robin_sz> I do hope they manage to get subroutines into the interp
[22:27:00] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: The system I'm trying is ~$12 for dual parallel or ~$17 for usb.. :)
[22:27:39] <Phydbleep> lpt1 + lpt2 == 16 bit data path @ 1 mHz.
[22:27:53] <robin_sz> lpt is dead
[22:27:58] <robin_sz> dead as ISA
[22:28:07] <Phydbleep> Dead as EISA?
[22:28:15] <robin_sz> maybe even that dead
[22:28:27] <Phydbleep> Ooohh.. That's pretty dead..
[22:28:30] <robin_sz> I have an EISA machine too .. lovely thing.
[22:28:36] <Jymmm> lol
[22:28:45] <Jymmm> EISA... haven't heard that in years
[22:28:45] <robin_sz> but .. as a new thing, I wouldnt bother with LPT
[22:29:06] <robin_sz> USB, firewaire maybe
[22:29:21] <Phydbleep> LPT is just to deal with old machines.. Firewire is a possibility.
[22:29:24] <Jymmm> * Jymmm hugs his UART
[22:29:40] <Phydbleep> Jymmm: Get a room..
[22:29:40] <robin_sz> forget LPT, really, its dead
[22:29:56] <robin_sz> laptops no longer come with lpt
[22:30:01] <Jymmm> mine does
[22:30:05] <Jymmm> has serial too
[22:30:08] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: Remember.. LPT is ok for cheap prototyping. :)
[22:30:14] <Jymmm> and usb and firewire and fdd and dvdrw
[22:30:19] <robin_sz> usb is cheap.
[22:30:29] <Phydbleep> So am I. :)
[22:30:37] <Phydbleep> But I'm not easy. :)
[22:30:39] <robin_sz> I bet an lpt cable cost mroe than the lpt cable
[22:31:02] <Jymmm> earth lang robin_sz, earht lang
[22:31:38] <robin_sz> anyway, I have a solution that works for me now .. G200X for ~150 USD
[22:31:58] <robin_sz> useable GUI, smooth pulses, works striaght out of the box ..
[22:32:11] <robin_sz> all the user has to do is install the GUI on a laptop and they are off
[22:32:41] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: I was going to use emc2 for the gui layer.
[22:32:48] <robin_sz> really?
[22:32:51] <robin_sz> ick
[22:33:25] <robin_sz> the GUI for this thing is open source and cross platform ..
[22:33:34] <robin_sz> why not start on that
[22:34:02] <robin_sz> and .. I even build the Windows .exe on my linux box :)
[22:34:41] <Phydbleep> Hmmm, hal looked like the way to go.. All this really needs is a readout/control head and it could actually be a LCD with a cut down usb kb.
[22:34:52] <robin_sz> HAL is a fine piece of work
[22:35:04] <robin_sz> JMK has doen a LOT of really nice stuff in there
[22:36:11] <Imperator_> * Imperator_ leaves for travelling to EMC Fest
[22:36:22] <robin_sz> enjoy
[22:36:41] <Phydbleep> set the encoder ppr, set leadscrew length/turns, set drive V/A curves, zero and run. :)
[22:36:45] <robin_sz> see if you can drag them kicking and screaming into the 21st century
[22:37:05] <robin_sz> Phydbleep: yeah, thats pretty much what i have here on the 200X
[22:37:07] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep has a Jeep that will tow a house..
[22:37:29] <Phydbleep> Think that could grag them up to 2001?
[22:37:33] <Phydbleep> drag
[22:37:38] <robin_sz> hmmm
[22:37:57] <robin_sz> the 200X would make a fine outboard pulsegen for emc
[22:38:29] <robin_sz> wonder if Art is going to the CNC workshop thing ...
[22:38:53] <Phydbleep> That's basically what i was doing..offload everything but display and buttons to the controller/data aggregator.
[22:39:03] <robin_sz> yeah
[22:39:43] <robin_sz> seen the PMDX board from Steve Stallings?
[22:40:01] <Phydbleep> Big, ~.7 farad caps on all the power supply lines so the system has time to write current position to fram on a power-fail.
[22:41:15] <robin_sz> those PMDX board look real neat
[22:41:17] <Phydbleep> Yank the control cable and it will finish the current operation and shut-down.
[22:41:30] <robin_sz> yeah
[22:41:34] <robin_sz> thats the way to go
[22:41:58] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep is going for "Idiot Resistant"..
[22:42:33] <Phydbleep> Nothing is "Idiot Proof" because you can always find a bigger idiot.
[22:42:59] <robin_sz> http://www.pmdx.com/PMDX-131/index.html
[22:43:09] <robin_sz> or ..
[22:43:30] <Phydbleep> Yeah, Google. :)
[22:43:38] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... :)
[22:43:51] <robin_sz> "when trying to make something completely idiot proof, people often underestimate the sheer resourcefulness of complete idiots"
[22:44:49] <Phydbleep> ROFLMAO!
[22:45:27] <Jymmm> robin_sz I dont get the reasoning behind the G200X. If it still requires the use of a computer be connected to it, why bother?
[22:45:38] <Phydbleep> That is close, but I want this moodular where 1 channel can blow and you just swap in a spare.
[22:47:49] <Phydbleep> All the encoder electronics fit in the encoder shell, and the drive chnnels end up as ~ 50mm x 70mm x 100mm with the heatsinks per.
[22:48:18] <robin_sz> Jymmm: because it works, ive not seen a computer based solution that is capable of driving modern steppers with microsteppign drives
[22:48:24] <Phydbleep> the aggregator is ~ 25mm x 100mm x 100mm.
[22:49:03] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep is thinking DINrail mount style.
[22:50:26] <Phydbleep> Or an old 5.25 FH SCSI chassis.
[22:50:55] <robin_sz> Jymmm: and for a commercial solution, the G200X works out about $400 cheaper than EMC
[22:53:52] <robin_sz> with EMC you would have to ship a pre-configured computer .. with the G200X they can just us a laptop or whatever
[22:55:59] <robin_sz> for "low end" users (ie with IQ in single figures) a BDI disk is not an option
[22:56:43] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: USB adds <$5 to me design.
[22:56:51] <Phydbleep> s/me/my
[22:56:54] <robin_sz> yeah
[22:56:58] <robin_sz> its a good solution
[22:57:08] <robin_sz> using the FTDI chip?
[22:57:28] <Phydbleep> Yeah, It will be there as an option, but i'm still going to proto with lpt.
[22:57:49] <Phydbleep> 16C745 or similar.
[22:58:15] <robin_sz> I suppose it makes the programming easier
[22:58:25] <robin_sz> but its more expenssive for production
[22:58:36] <Phydbleep> Whole system will be incircuit program for firmware updates.
[22:59:24] <robin_sz> yeah, the 200X does that
[22:59:31] <robin_sz> the fpga is loaded onthe fly
[23:00:11] <Phydbleep> 2 cpu's per channel for encoder/driver, 1 for the aggregator, 1 for the usb. :)
[23:00:17] <robin_sz> and the Rabbit can easily be re-flashed
[23:00:30] <robin_sz> sounds expensive
[23:00:33] <robin_sz> PICs?
[23:01:20] <robin_sz> sounds WAY more expensive than the 200X to build already ...
[23:01:23] <Phydbleep> Yeah, Parts cost for 5 channels of 100V 10A drive w/ encoders is <$110.
[23:01:38] <robin_sz> yeah MUCH more expensive than the 200X
[23:01:50] <robin_sz> oh, with drives
[23:01:53] <robin_sz> thats not bad then
[23:02:32] <robin_sz> I reckon parts wise the 200X is about $25~30
[23:02:39] <robin_sz> plus a rabbit
[23:02:39] <Phydbleep> Modular design, Blow an encoder or driver and swap a board out, Drive boards are ~ $17 in parts.
[23:03:08] <Phydbleep> $35 for 200V 20A driver.
[23:03:25] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... Spindle drive, :)
[23:03:46] <robin_sz> could the small drivers do 0-5v input for control?
[23:03:55] <robin_sz> with a direction logic input?
[23:04:43] <Phydbleep> all the small drivers are I^2C control from the aggregator.. It will understand whatever it's programmed for. :)
[23:04:50] <robin_sz> ahh
[23:05:06] <Phydbleep> I could probably make it grok g-code directly.
[23:05:42] <robin_sz> so no analogue input to the driver?
[23:06:03] <Phydbleep> Not directly
[23:06:06] <robin_sz> right
[23:06:26] <robin_sz> and this is some new high-speed mode of i^2C?
[23:08:12] <robin_sz> or will you be able to get drive requests down to the drive fast enough, say 1Khz?
[23:08:21] <robin_sz> on standard i^2c
[23:08:51] <Phydbleep> 3.4Mbit/sec
[23:09:05] <robin_sz> right
[23:09:12] <robin_sz> not the mode I used way long ago then
[23:09:41] <CIA-8> 03rumley * 10emc/src/rs274ngc_new/ (4 files):
[23:09:41] <CIA-8> Rev 4: (4 of 4)
[23:09:41] <CIA-8> 1. Added in Ken Lerman's subroutine and conditionals enhancements
[23:09:41] <CIA-8> (Didn't get his latest fix merged in, yet)
[23:09:41] <CIA-8> 2. Small fix for case of zero length line, and skipping. Case exists with block delete '/' or
[23:09:42] <CIA-8> READ_FULL_COMMENT OFF (rs274ngc.hh)
[23:09:44] <CIA-8> 3. Various indentation and comments cleaned up from the last commit.
[23:11:04] <Phydbleep> The encoders report @ 100 KHz and I was going to run the motor drives @ 1Mbit to get a decent microstep/pwm output.
[23:11:17] <robin_sz> wow.. look
[23:11:26] <robin_sz> the subroutine mods just went in :)
[23:12:08] <Phydbleep> See? and you were going to bugger off and buy a gecko. :)
[23:12:36] <robin_sz> and? I'm going to go and copy those mods into the gecko right away ...
[23:12:56] <Phydbleep> Cheater! :)
[23:13:03] <robin_sz> nah, thats OD for you
[23:13:05] <robin_sz> PD
[23:13:59] <robin_sz> I suspect you'll see that and the segmotqueue stuff in the new version of Mach2/3 too
[23:14:14] <robin_sz> except you wont
[23:14:20] <robin_sz> because Mach is closed source
[23:15:23] <robin_sz> at least the gecko stuff is open source
[23:16:44] <robin_sz> well, apart from the FPGA itself
[23:16:53] <robin_sz> but the interface to it is public
[23:17:37] <Phydbleep> This is all going to be pd/gpl when I'm done.
[23:18:16] <robin_sz> you just going to publish the desing or sell hardware?
[23:18:38] <Phydbleep> Schematics, code, encoder generation code.. All of it.
[23:18:46] <robin_sz> right
[23:19:06] <robin_sz> so not a commercial offering then ...
[23:19:20] <Phydbleep> WTH would I want to sell hardware? That's paperwork and real work.. :)
[23:19:20] <Jymmm> robin_sz but he's gonna give us all we want to beta test for him!
[23:19:36] <robin_sz> heh
[23:19:47] <robin_sz> its also a way to earn money for food
[23:19:55] <Jymmm> food? what's that?
[23:20:08] <robin_sz> not every cnc hobbyist can build PCBs
[23:20:29] <Jymmm> ?
[23:20:43] <Jymmm> once I have somethign to cnc on, I want to do a few pcb's
[23:20:51] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep is a prime example
[23:20:57] <robin_sz> messy business
[23:21:07] <Jymmm> robin_sz oh you mean for profit?
[23:21:27] <robin_sz> no I mean making pcbs is a messy business
[23:21:35] <Phydbleep> I can use the ferric cloride, but everything for photo xfer makes me sicker than hell.
[23:21:47] <robin_sz> ?
[23:22:05] <robin_sz> umm. water?
[23:22:24] <robin_sz> sodium hydroxide (lye) solution?
[23:22:25] <Phydbleep> chemical sensitivities... Acetone, ketones, some food additives.. Bleah!
[23:22:37] <robin_sz> oh you dont need those anymoe
[23:22:43] <robin_sz> anymore
[23:22:47] <robin_sz> not for prototypes
[23:23:10] <robin_sz> laser printer, lye solution .. thats it
[23:23:33] <Phydbleep> I've seen the laser/iron method but I've got a crap printer cartridge and scratches in the drum.
[23:23:43] <robin_sz> no .. not the iron on one
[23:23:50] <robin_sz> the photo one
[23:23:55] <Phydbleep> ??
[23:24:07] <Phydbleep> Do tell. :)
[23:24:07] <robin_sz> you print onto some Laserstar paper
[23:24:18] <robin_sz> put it over some photo sensitive board ...
[23:24:24] <robin_sz> 20 mins in the UV
[23:24:31] <robin_sz> 2 mins in lye and wash
[23:24:35] <robin_sz> etc
[23:24:37] <robin_sz> h
[23:25:03] <robin_sz> even the PCB houses dont use film anymore
[23:25:09] <robin_sz> know what they do?
[23:25:13] <Phydbleep> photo board is out for me.. It outgasses..
[23:25:37] <Phydbleep> Even hte pre-treated stuff. :(
[23:25:55] <robin_sz> they just put photboard in a big flat-bed laser printer
[23:26:21] <robin_sz> it prints the UV directly onto the photobaord :)
[23:27:01] <robin_sz> and when doing multi-layer stuff .. can you imagine how carefully you have to place the board inthe machine each time to get the layers right?
[23:27:40] <robin_sz> well .. heres the thing ... you just toss it in. it spots the index marks and adjusts the print :)
[23:28:11] <robin_sz> it even takes account of the changes in size of the board with temperature ..
[23:28:44] <Jymmm> I just want to make a few of these PCB's http://www.pilotltd.net/cnc.htm
[23:28:45] <robin_sz> so .. soldering is out for you too?
[23:29:07] <Phydbleep> I can solder, I have a fume vent,
[23:30:35] <Phydbleep> i just can't deal with things that will outgas later, like paint, glue..
[23:30:55] <Jymmm> Phydbleep 90% of every plastic on the planet
[23:31:32] <Jymmm> Phydbleep hopw you dont have anything teflon in your home
[23:31:37] <Jymmm> PTFE
[23:31:38] <Phydbleep> Jymmm: I think that's part of the problem. I've been dicthing plastic where practical.
[23:31:55] <robin_sz> Jymmm: : look horrible .. .old non-microstepped L297 based things
[23:31:56] <Jymmm> Teflon (PTFE) == toxic
[23:32:07] <Phydbleep> Teflon is ok as long as you dont heat it.
[23:32:10] <robin_sz> but mainly inert
[23:32:17] <Jymmm> Phydbleep bullshit
[23:32:35] <Jymmm> Phydbleep cooking bacon in a teflon pan exceeds its rated temp
[23:32:49] <Jymmm> of 450 F... rasies it to 520 F
[23:32:52] <Phydbleep> I don't use it around food.
[23:32:54] <robin_sz> like he said
[23:33:00] <robin_sz> Teflon is ok as long as you dont heat it
[23:33:26] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: Or cook with it. :)
[23:33:31] <robin_sz> quite
[23:33:40] <robin_sz> its a pretty inert engineering plastic though
[23:33:40] <Jymmm> friction
[23:33:49] <Jymmm> robin_sz sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[23:33:51] <robin_sz> oh purleeeze
[23:34:02] <Jymmm> UHMW is non toxic, even when burnt
[23:34:15] <robin_sz> theres plenty of more toxic and more reactive plastics about
[23:34:16] <Phydbleep> ???
[23:34:30] <robin_sz> polystyrene for instance
[23:34:37] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep thinks Jymmm has an odd idea of "Non-Toxic"
[23:34:40] <robin_sz> or any styrene
[23:34:42] <Jymmm> robin_sz PTFE is one of the nastiest when heated though.
[23:34:46] <robin_sz> nah
[23:34:56] <Jymmm> Phydbleep what, UHMW? go look at the MSDS
[23:35:03] <robin_sz> theres worse .. much worse
[23:35:10] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep has smelled roasting uhmw.. P!U!
[23:35:31] <Jymmm> CO and CO2
[23:35:34] <Jymmm> iir
[23:35:36] <Jymmm> iirc
[23:35:42] <Jymmm> not HCL
[23:35:42] <robin_sz> and paints ... most paints are much worse than most plastics
[23:36:04] <Jymmm> Mmmmmmmmm lead paint =)
[23:36:13] <Phydbleep> Dumbass tried to take a 1" cut at 2K rpm.. galled the tip, melted the part, stunk up the whole shop.
[23:36:17] <robin_sz> my mate andy has two 20Kg pots in his shed
[23:36:32] <robin_sz> of pot cyanide :)
[23:36:48] <Jymmm> pot == jar (I hope)
[23:36:54] <robin_sz> potassium
[23:37:00] <Jymmm> oh
[23:37:05] <Jymmm> nice
[23:37:07] <robin_sz> nice stuff
[23:37:10] <Jymmm> NOT!
[23:37:15] <Jymmm> eeesh
[23:37:16] <robin_sz> if you are going to plate metals its handy
[23:37:41] <Jymmm> oh yeah.... just hope the gardener dont go... whats this? sniff
[23:37:41] <robin_sz> just dont mix it with acids :)
[23:37:52] <robin_sz> oh it smells nice enough
[23:38:03] <Jymmm> like antifreeze?
[23:38:16] <robin_sz> like almonds, or cherries
[23:38:17] <Jymmm> that "sweet" smell
[23:38:19] <Jymmm> ah
[23:38:41] <robin_sz> you know that if you crush and eat 50 cherry stones, you could die?
[23:38:47] <Jymmm> yep
[23:39:02] <Phydbleep> same for almond hulls.
[23:39:05] <Jymmm> 60 apples seeds iirc too
[23:39:08] <robin_sz> ~250mg of cyanide is the LD50 for humans
[23:39:09] <anonimasu> heh
[23:39:20] <anonimasu> robin_sz: that sounds like much
[23:39:35] <anonimasu> what's in apple seeds?
[23:39:36] <robin_sz> ~250mg? 0.25 of a gramme?
[23:39:47] <Jymmm> anonimasu cyanide
[23:39:47] <robin_sz> not a lot
[23:39:50] <Phydbleep> anonimasu: people usually put more salt than that on fries.
[23:39:52] <anonimasu> heh
[23:40:00] <anonimasu> just kidding
[23:40:02] <anonimasu> ;)
[23:40:19] <robin_sz> fortunatley its non cumulative
[23:40:21] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep does the happy dance..
[23:40:28] <robin_sz> you can have a bit each day and live
[23:40:59] <Phydbleep> My linear sensor array sample is here. :)
[23:41:03] <robin_sz> nice
[23:41:07] <robin_sz> what for?
[23:41:17] <Phydbleep> 4096 ppr encoders..
[23:41:20] <robin_sz> right
[23:41:22] <Phydbleep> WTF?
[23:41:23] <robin_sz> cheap?
[23:41:31] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep looks in the box again..
[23:41:46] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep looks in the bag in the box..
[23:42:06] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep looks in the tiny plastic package in the bag..
[23:42:24] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep gets a magnifying glass..
[23:42:33] <Phydbleep> Ahh.. There it is. :)
[23:43:17] <Phydbleep> Holy Kerap!.. This thing is tiny.. 0.5mm x 0.25 mm x 6mm
[23:43:30] <robin_sz> thats small
[23:43:47] <anonimasu> hm, I am going to play with qt tomorrow
[23:43:48] <Phydbleep> That's how it all fits in the encoder shell.
[23:44:04] <robin_sz> like a smt resistor?
[23:44:16] <Phydbleep> 50mm x 50mm x 15mm for hte complete encoder
[23:44:47] <robin_sz> going to electroform the codewheels?
[23:44:53] <Phydbleep> More like a bit of mechanical pencil leaad.
[23:45:24] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: Photo or 4800 dpi inkjet.
[23:45:43] <robin_sz> good luck
[23:45:52] <Phydbleep> ?
[23:46:23] <anonimasu> *yawns*
[23:46:40] <robin_sz> you reckon it injet will be IR opaque enough?
[23:46:45] <robin_sz> sounds "unlikely"
[23:47:40] <robin_sz> how much did electroforming work out at?
[23:47:47] <Phydbleep> robin_sz: It will be with this ink. Epson Durabright print with all 4 colors. :)
[23:48:14] <robin_sz> seen electroforming?
[23:48:32] <robin_sz> they print the negaitve in resist onto a sheet of stainless
[23:48:33] <Phydbleep> The Mongo remote for the TV won't punch a signal through it @ 1"
[23:48:43] <robin_sz> then plate it with nickel
[23:49:04] <robin_sz> then just bend it and all the little encoder wheels pop off ...
[23:49:20] <robin_sz> can be very cost effective
[23:49:27] <Phydbleep> Cool, I might have to try that.
[23:49:59] <robin_sz> nickel wont bond to stainless
[23:50:14] <robin_sz> unless you give it a gold plate first
[23:50:57] <Phydbleep> I was going to print these on 1.8" "mailing tabs" (clear polystyrene sticky dots) and laminate it between 2 layers of 1mm lexan.
[23:51:06] <robin_sz> ?
[23:51:09] <robin_sz> ummm
[23:51:23] <robin_sz> seems doomed to failure
[23:51:37] <Phydbleep> Why?
[23:51:37] <robin_sz> 2mm of lexan?
[23:51:45] <robin_sz> ir?
[23:51:47] <robin_sz> focus?
[23:52:31] <Phydbleep> I might use just the one layer with the sticky on it.. Focus is not an issue.. slot for emitter.
[23:52:48] <robin_sz> I have one word ...
[23:52:54] <robin_sz> USDigital
[23:52:59] <Phydbleep> The detector is .25mm from the disk.
[23:53:09] <Phydbleep> <.25mm
[23:56:06] <robin_sz> ah well, it shoud be fun anyway
[23:57:21] <Phydbleep> Woah.. What i want is a USDigital E3 equivalent and they want $50 ea.. :\
[23:57:43] <robin_sz> sounds cheap to me
[23:58:14] <Phydbleep> Correction.. $75 each for 1/2" shaft hole.
[23:58:20] <Jymmm> l297 does do microstepping?
[23:58:31] <robin_sz> no the L297 does not
[23:58:39] <robin_sz> its full or half step
[23:58:41] <robin_sz> thats it,
[23:59:00] <Jymmm> any dropin replacement for it?
[23:59:10] <robin_sz> a geckodrive?
[23:59:39] <Jymmm> chip, not driver
[23:59:49] <robin_sz> no