#emc | Logs for 2005-04-12

[00:00:10] <pfred1> actually as i can recall i did use bell wire and it did break a couple of times
[00:00:38] <Jymmm> bell wire ??? 22ga copper?
[00:00:41] <pfred1> I used it with the insulation on but the insulation would get ripped off from time to time
[00:00:46] <pfred1> yeah phone wire
[00:01:51] <Jymmm> hmmm, I find that 1/4"-20 allthread to be annoying just when tossing a nut in the middle of it, and that's using a drill too.
[00:02:11] <Jymmm> I'm like HURRY UP ALREADY! =)
[00:02:28] <pfred1> I got a whole box of 1/2-13 once that was getting tossed out running a little low now but have had that stock for years here
[00:02:44] <pfred1> heck I've used that stuff as concrete reinforcing I had so much of it
[00:02:45] <Jymmm> heh, cool.
[00:03:07] <Jymmm> ewww allthread as rebar?!
[00:03:08] <pfred1> gave half of it away
[00:03:22] <pfred1> 1/2-13 is pretty good reinforcing
[00:03:24] <Jymmm> allthread snaps easily
[00:03:36] <pfred1> not 1/2-13
[00:03:47] <pfred1> and not embeddedi n concrete
[00:04:08] <Jymmm> I'm in earthquake country... I'll stick with the rebar =)
[00:04:28] <pfred1> I'd take all thread over rebar cept for the cost it's better steel
[00:04:53] <pfred1> deformed rod
[00:05:41] <pfred1> I got some good deals at the flea merket this weekend
[00:05:49] <pfred1> got a shop vac for $10
[00:07:35] <Jymmm> ok dinner ready... bbl
[01:14:38] <paul_c> buggerit...
[01:14:55] <paul_c> You would have to turn up now !
[01:15:05] <jmkasunich> bedtime?
[01:15:12] <paul_c> past that.
[01:15:16] <jmkasunich> sorry
[01:15:24] <jmkasunich> just wanted to ask a quick question
[01:15:31] <jmkasunich> was exploring with synaptic
[01:15:33] <paul_c> night ;)
[01:15:47] <jmkasunich> do I risk problems if I update packages?
[01:16:03] <jmkasunich> (IOW, did you carefully choose versions to make a stable system)
[01:16:45] <paul_c> The only one that I know would cause a problem is kdm
[01:17:39] <jmkasunich> installed version matches current, so no worries there
[01:17:53] <jmkasunich> synaptic says some 300+ packages are out of date tho
[01:18:18] <paul_c> sounds about right.
[01:18:49] <jmkasunich> but in general, upgrading and/or installing is usually safe?
[01:19:00] <jmkasunich> after all, that's what the deb repository is all about, right?
[01:19:08] <paul_c> It was only two or three packages out of date when I did the first build.
[01:20:33] <paul_c> I would suggest upgrading a few packages at a time...
[01:20:50] <jmkasunich> is there a way to _un_-update?
[01:20:55] <paul_c> For example, do the development group
[01:21:12] <paul_c> then Xfree86
[01:21:29] <jmkasunich> right
[01:21:38] <paul_c> Or all the A's, then the B's
[01:21:50] <jmkasunich> and if something breaks, then I would want to back up... hence the un-update question
[01:22:33] <jmkasunich> ahh... Package->ForceVersion
[01:24:28] <Phydbleep> Synaptic has an option for that.
[01:24:40] <paul_c> http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[01:25:16] <jmkasunich> looks like a usefull doc - bookmarked - thanks
[01:27:06] <paul_c> http://www.linuxforum.com/debian/ch-package.en.html
[01:27:45] <paul_c> BTW mailed you revision number 2
[01:28:01] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich checks mail
[01:28:09] <paul_c> Probably do rev.3 on the flight over.
[01:30:22] <jmkasunich> wow, very different from rev 1
[01:31:00] <paul_c> Hey... You bugged me for a the first copy... And I did warn you..
[01:35:18] <paul_c> paul_c has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Enhanced Machine Control forum - Support and development of a linux based CNC control. | Regular Developer's meetings every Sunday between 14:00 & 18:00 GMT | General linux discussions and support the rest of the week.
[01:36:50] <SWPadnos> phew - that "general help" thing was tough to keep up with :)
[01:38:31] <asdfqwega> za?
[01:39:03] <paul_c> anyone can change the topic if they want...
[01:42:36] <Jymmm> Jymmm has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Enhanced Machine Control forum - Support and development of a linux based CNC control. | Regular Developer's meetings every Sunday between 14:00 & 18:00 GMT | General linux discussions and support the rest of the week. | http://linuxcnc.org/
[01:42:37] <ChanServ> ChanServ has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Enhanced Machine Control forum - Support and development of a linux based CNC control. | Regular Developer's meetings every Sunday between 14:00 & 18:00 GMT | General linux discussions and support the rest of the week.
[01:42:48] <Jymmm> paul_c liar!
[01:43:04] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep has changed the topic to: ChanServ is a bitchy bot..
[01:43:17] <Jymmm> cs isn't a bot though
[01:43:22] <paul_c> No... Anyone can change the topic, but chanserv will change it back.
[01:43:36] <Jymmm> paul_c gimme level 10
[01:44:07] <Jymmm> wait, let me see what level is needed for SET
[01:44:13] <paul_c> you know what happened to the last one that asked for ops ?
[01:44:43] <Phydbleep> Fed him to the beancounters?
[01:44:57] <paul_c> on the ban list.
[01:45:18] <Phydbleep> Oh, You went easy on him. :)
[01:45:27] <paul_c> (but there were other reasons for the ban...)
[01:45:56] <Jymmm> paul_c make that level 25 instead
[01:46:17] <Phydbleep> So you should have fed him to the beancounters..
[01:47:26] <Jymmm> paul_c if you dont want to, then add the url to the topic at least =)
[01:49:12] <paul_c> paul_c has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Enhanced Machine Control forum - Support and development of a linux based CNC control. | Home page www.linuxcnc.org | Regular Developer's meetings every Sunday between 14:00 & 18:00 GMT | General linux discussions and support the rest of the week.
[01:51:41] <asdfqwega> * asdfqwega thinks of something to add
[01:51:48] <asdfqwega> * asdfqwega clamps his mouth shut
[01:52:13] <asdfqwega> Oh, is OK to feed the troll now?
[01:52:36] <paul_c> we don't have any trolls... do we ?
[01:54:15] <asdfqwega> * asdfqwega clamps his mouth shut with both hands
[01:54:28] <asdfqwega> Mmmmmph-mpph!
[01:57:27] <asdfqwega> As perverse as my sense of humour is, I know better than to poke a dog with a stick...
[01:59:38] <Jymmm> asdfqwega then how do you know if the dog is still alive?
[01:59:48] <asdfqwega> Simple
[01:59:59] <asdfqwega> I prod him with my +1 stick of XML
[02:00:26] <Jymmm> asdfqwega that made zero sense.
[02:00:38] <asdfqwega> Zigactly.
[02:02:01] <Jymmm> paul_c where is this sherline R12 spindel you speak of? You said about industrial tools, but I dont see that section on their website.
[02:06:01] <paul_c> http://www.sherlineipd.com/indflyer.pdf - Page 2 shows some of the ER16 stuff
[02:06:15] <Jymmm> * Jymmm looks...
[02:06:26] <paul_c> Phone Craig for a price on just the spindle.
[02:07:54] <Jymmm> paul_c whats so special abotu this spindle?
[02:08:21] <paul_c> ER16 taper...
[02:08:36] <Jymmm> paul_c : Sorry, I'm clueless
[02:10:12] <paul_c> ER16 only makes sense if you need to use standard collets.
[02:10:58] <paul_c> or if you plan on doing one of Joe Vicker's auto-tool changers
[03:17:54] <A-L-P-H-A> how goes it people?
[03:19:13] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... that ER16 spindle isn't that expensive.
[03:19:38] <A-L-P-H-A> it's almost worth for me to purhcase, instead of make my own. But I've already bought the DA300 extension collet, and it'd be fun to make. :D
[03:29:48] <Jymmm> too bad I have NFC of the difference
[03:39:41] <A-L-P-H-A> NFC?
[03:39:51] <A-L-P-H-A> no fucking clue?
[03:39:59] <Jymmm> nod
[03:54:19] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm, sorry, just different collets/adapters/holders. they all do the same job.
[04:16:15] <SWPadnos> SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away
[06:03:07] <Jymmm> A-L-P-H-A Yeah, it's just distinguishing between them and their capacbilities, sizes, etc.
[07:16:57] <Jymmm> Jymmm is now known as CodesWithIdiots
[07:28:27] <Phydbleep> Phydbleep is now known as FornicatesWithMa
[07:28:48] <FornicatesWithMa> FornicatesWithMa is now known as Phydbleep
[07:29:01] <Phydbleep> Well That didn't work..
[07:29:18] <CodesWithIdiots> "Then, don't do that!"
[07:29:23] <CodesWithIdiots> CodesWithIdiots is now known as Jymmm
[07:29:45] <Phydbleep> That was supposed to come out FornicatesWithMachinery
[07:31:28] <Jymmm> heh
[07:32:08] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... I know it's rude and crude and socially unacceptable, but I'm going to use a whole bunch of arcade video game buttons on my panel.
[07:32:31] <Jymmm> full sized arcade machine buttons?
[07:32:57] <Phydbleep> Yeah, Happs Part# something or other.
[07:33:15] <Jymmm> I dont see anythign wring with that; made for repeated use, usually abuse proof (for the most part)
[07:33:19] <Jymmm> wrong
[07:34:15] <Phydbleep> I'm going to chuck up the button bit and cut an o-ring groove in it to keep the chips out.
[07:36:02] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep traded a 1/2 case of cheap beer for a whole bag of used buttons and joysticks from a local repair place. :)
[07:36:15] <Jymmm> lol
[07:36:58] <Phydbleep> Even funnier.. I was trying to figure out what to do with cheap beer when the deal came up. :)
[07:37:40] <Phydbleep> Got a wal-mart bag 2/3 full or various parts..
[07:37:46] <Phydbleep> s/or/of
[07:37:53] <Jymmm> that works
[07:38:30] <Jymmm> by chance do you know how to tap a hole using a cnc mill?
[07:38:31] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep attacks a RED button with a screwdriver.
[07:39:08] <Phydbleep> I usually use a drill press for tapping.. Or the lathe.
[07:40:54] <Jymmm> I was looking at tapping heads, but not enough clearance on a sherline mill (if I get it)
[07:41:54] <Phydbleep> Oh.. the auto-reverse units?
[07:42:18] <Jymmm> yeah
[07:44:02] <Jymmm> like this http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46343
[07:44:57] <Phydbleep> Hmm.. Not enough meat on this to cut a groove, But there's a nice step in both halves where a thin silicone o-ring would fit.
[07:46:02] <Phydbleep> And plenty of room for an LED or light bulb. :)
[07:56:12] <Phydbleep> Jymmm: Yeah, That thing is 9 or 10 inches from the collet to the tang.
[07:56:50] <Jymmm> AND... I don't even think it'll fit in the mount either
[07:57:38] <Phydbleep> That would work on my SouthBend.. Buy it and if it doesn't work I'll trade you a Compaq for it. :)
[07:57:47] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... :)
[07:58:09] <Jymmm> Phydbleep: Ok deal... I'll trade you the tapping head for your SB!
[07:59:26] <Phydbleep> No, No, no.. that was a Compaq for the tapping head.. I'll actually lose money on the deal if I ship this 20 kilo pig somewhere.
[08:00:19] <Jymmm> Phydbleep : Yeah like I said... you keep your damn POS compaq, and I'll trade you the tapping head for your SB with free S&H
[08:01:06] <Phydbleep> Not even if you roll over and beg. :)
[08:01:12] <Phydbleep> Hehehe... :)
[08:02:34] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep has to have a place (Not involving the services of a proctologist) to put the tapping head..
[08:04:34] <Phydbleep> However i might be persuaded to trade it for a smaller lathe and a small mill.
[08:05:48] <Jymmm> I was joking... I have no place to put such a beast even if I wanted to or was given to me.
[08:08:56] <Phydbleep> Hehehe.. i'm using it to attempt to punch the shop into the back yard.. There must me 1000 kilos of iron and steel in there between the table (350kg) the lathe (300kg) the old motor, the new motor, the other motors
[08:10:09] <Phydbleep> Oh yeah, There's about another 500kg of scrap clay from a potter who was having a run of bad luck..
[08:17:01] <Jymmm> lol
[08:19:56] <Phydbleep> He had 1 batch freeze and a bunch more that shattered due to the humidity being too low in the shop.
[08:32:46] <Phydbleep> Opinions please.. 8 buttons, 4 white ones for spindle direction/speed in a diamond pattern, 1 each, RED=STOP, GREEN=GO, BLUE=Brake, YELLOW=RESET in a 2x2 array... All the buttons are Happs Controls arcade units and will be fitted with seals..
[08:34:48] <Phydbleep> Anyone got any comments/suggestions?
[09:07:58] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep screams "BANZAI!" and slashes an unwary pizza box into a control panel template..
[09:08:26] <A-L-P-H-A> Phydbleep, damn you!
[09:08:29] <A-L-P-H-A> I want pizza now.
[09:11:11] <Phydbleep> So do I... The empty was hiding under the couch where the cats were playing with it.
[09:36:34] <A-L-P-H-A> hi anonimasu
[09:37:27] <anonimasu> hello
[09:37:28] <Phydbleep> /MSG anonimasu Don't mention pizza, A-L-P-H-A will go mental.. :)
[09:37:40] <anonimasu> ^_^
[09:38:48] <Phydbleep> A-L-P-H-A: I've still got 1/2 the cardboard box left after the butchery... It's kind of dry, but real chewy... :)
[09:39:04] <anonimasu> I'll be broke today
[09:39:11] <anonimasu> I bought stuff for my car
[09:39:34] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep is broke every day.. Wife and kid. :)
[09:39:46] <anonimasu> 589$ for a small electronic box.. :/
[09:40:04] <Phydbleep> Amd or DVD unit?
[09:40:07] <anonimasu> nope..
[09:40:16] <Phydbleep> s/amd/amp
[09:40:21] <anonimasu> a piggyback box.. so I can tweak fuel and stuff...
[09:40:37] <A-L-P-H-A> ....
[09:40:42] <Phydbleep> Ah.. A lobotomy for the emc unit. :)
[09:40:51] <anonimasu> yeah
[09:40:56] <Phydbleep> s/emc/ecm
[09:41:05] <anonimasu> ecu..
[09:41:06] <anonimasu> :)
[09:42:25] <anonimasu> but I dont know when I'll have time to install it
[09:43:32] <anonimasu> what's up today?
[09:44:11] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep remembers 'modifying' the speech generator in a Nissan..
[09:44:56] <Phydbleep> "Yo Dumbass! Shut the door."
[10:21:57] <A-L-P-H-A> reminds me of those silly fish
[10:23:01] <A-L-P-H-A> hmm... breakfast time.
[10:23:11] <A-L-P-H-A> and a NICE cuban coffee. :)
[10:25:08] <anonimasu> :)
[10:49:33] <A-L-P-H-A> breakfast was yummy. :D
[11:02:11] <Phydbleep> Uh-oh.. paul_c is here which means it's some ungodly hour of the morning and i should go fall over..
[11:02:45] <Phydbleep> Before I do though...
[11:02:57] <Phydbleep> Opinions please.. 8 buttons, 4 white ones for spindle direction/speed in a diamond pattern, 1 each, RED=STOP, GREEN=GO, BLUE=Brake, YELLOW=RESET in a 2x2 array... All the buttons are Happs Controls arcade units and will be fitted with seals..
[11:03:11] <paul_c> * paul_c goes to see what the fishmonger has left...
[11:04:09] <Phydbleep> The panel will be about 18"Wx6"H..
[11:04:58] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep may cheat and use a blank 19" rack faceplate for the panel.
[11:06:40] <Phydbleep> Anybody foresee any problems with that layout?
[11:09:16] <A-L-P-H-A> Phydbleep... Phydbleep, draw it. :)
[11:09:47] <Phydbleep> I've got it mocked up in cardboard in front of me. :)
[11:09:54] <A-L-P-H-A> this is kinda intuitive... ARROW key alignment [like KB], with a level/3pos switch, to Z axis.
[11:10:08] <A-L-P-H-A> dial for spindle speed
[11:10:10] <A-L-P-H-A> :)
[11:10:48] <Phydbleep> X/Y/Z will be a seperate control head with an analog stick. :)
[11:11:49] <Phydbleep> This is just to deal with a motor controller that only understands buttons.
[11:13:46] <A-L-P-H-A> anyone know the taper angle for a DA300 [ericson style, double angle] series collet?
[11:14:00] <A-L-P-H-A> it wasn't listed in Machinery's handbook
[11:17:52] <nevyn> * nevyn has a laser
[11:18:04] <nevyn> it was in hard rubbish..
[11:18:13] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep has to fall over..
[11:18:18] <nevyn> and labeled "Industrial laser take what you like"
[11:19:02] <Phydbleep> This 4 hours of sleep a night is for the birds..
[11:19:30] <Phydbleep> G'nite all. :)
[11:19:54] <Phydbleep> nevyn: Good score if you can power/use it. :)
[11:22:52] <nevyn> so it's a plasma laser but I think it's for entertainment more than cutting stuff.
[13:06:43] <A-L-P-H-A> what time zone is Ma [Maine?]
[13:13:21] <alex_joni> greetings
[13:16:57] <A-L-P-H-A> hey aj
[13:17:44] <alex_joni> hey alpha
[13:17:50] <alex_joni> what's up?
[13:18:30] <A-L-P-H-A> look at carbide endmills.
[13:19:25] <alex_joni> why should I ?
[13:19:27] <alex_joni> :D
[13:22:46] <A-L-P-H-A> looking
[13:22:47] <A-L-P-H-A> :)
[13:22:48] <A-L-P-H-A> :P
[13:22:57] <alex_joni> right
[13:23:03] <alex_joni> * alex_joni can't look anymore ;)
[13:24:43] <cradek> alex_joni: Maine is ME
[13:24:51] <cradek> err
[13:24:55] <cradek> A-L-P-H-A: Maine is ME
[13:25:03] <alex_joni> cradek: I might agree ...
[13:25:07] <alex_joni> btw.. hello
[13:25:11] <cradek> hello
[13:25:27] <alex_joni> how's the pcb milling?
[13:25:35] <cradek> 08:16:14 < A-L-P-H-A> what time zone is Ma [Maine?]
[13:25:48] <cradek> alex_joni: still fine; haven't done much lately
[13:25:57] <alex_joni> [16:34] <cradek> 08:16:14 < A-L-P-H-A> what time zone is Ma [Maine?]
[13:26:05] <alex_joni> looks better like this ;)
[13:26:48] <cradek> mmm, 16:34
[13:26:51] <cradek> must be nice
[13:27:12] <A-L-P-H-A> What's MA than?
[13:27:20] <cradek> Mass I think
[13:27:22] <A-L-P-H-A> Time: 09:37:00 -0500 GMT, Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), AMD XP 2800+ running at (1-AMD , 2123MHz, 512KB (0% Load)), DDR400 RAM Usage: 751/1024MB (73.34%), C: 47.97gb of 75.42gb free, D: 0gb of 0gb free, N: 58.51gb of 372.62gb free, Current Uptime: 4days 4hrs 21mins 19secs, Record Uptime: 3wks 12hrs 48mins 50secs, 3 Samsung 19" flat monitors (1 Trinitron, 2 CRT).
[13:27:28] <A-L-P-H-A> Mass is still EST.
[13:27:40] <cradek> EDT
[13:27:56] <cradek> we just switched to summer time/daylight saving
[13:28:24] <alex_joni> cradek: just got back to work
[13:28:29] <alex_joni> was at a customer till now
[13:29:25] <SWP_Away> MA is Massachusetts, ME is Maine, and both are in the EST5EDT time zone (Eastern), where it's now 09:39 AM.
[13:29:46] <SWP_Away> SWP_Away is now known as SWPadnos
[13:29:55] <A-L-P-H-A> we're on EDT right now.
[13:30:00] <A-L-P-H-A> heys swampy.
[13:30:33] <SWPadnos> Whay is it Daylight Savings time when there's more daylight?
[13:30:47] <cradek> grr
[13:30:53] <SWPadnos> It would make more sense to be saving daylight when you have less of it
[13:30:59] <cradek> there's the same amount of daylight
[13:31:10] <SWPadnos> not here
[13:31:25] <SWPadnos> World average, there is though :)
[13:31:25] <cradek> ?
[13:31:50] <SWPadnos> we have 9 hours of light in the winter, and 16 or so in the summer
[13:32:00] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah, we'st EST right now.
[13:32:09] <A-L-P-H-A> Eastern Saving Time.
[13:32:11] <SWPadnos> Good - that makes more sense
[13:32:23] <SWPadnos> no - that makes no sense :)
[13:32:32] <SWPadnos> EST is Eastern Standard Time
[13:32:39] <SWPadnos> EDT is Eastern Daylight Time
[13:32:43] <A-L-P-H-A> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_Saving_Time
[13:32:45] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos. :)
[13:33:15] <SWPadnos> thanks - and that is the most idiotic thing I've seen today
[13:33:24] <SWPadnos> (though I've only been up for an hour or so)
[13:33:34] <A-L-P-H-A> still early.
[13:33:43] <SWPadnos> yep
[13:34:12] <A-L-P-H-A> this is fucked up.
[13:34:17] <A-L-P-H-A> what is it?
[13:34:22] <A-L-P-H-A> wikipedia is messed up.
[13:34:27] <A-L-P-H-A> EDT = EST +1
[13:34:51] <SWPadnos> right - we just set the clocks forward (=EST + 1)
[13:34:52] <A-L-P-H-A> so I WAS F'N right in first place.
[13:35:03] <A-L-P-H-A> no
[13:35:05] <A-L-P-H-A> I'm wrong.
[13:35:06] <A-L-P-H-A> hahaha
[13:35:07] <SWPadnos> so we don't sleep through the sunlight in the morning
[13:35:12] <A-L-P-H-A> what ever.
[13:35:23] <A-L-P-H-A> I'm lost now. hehe
[13:35:38] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah, we're on EDT... windows is telling me that.
[13:35:39] <SWPadnos> I thnk we should just shift 1/2 hour in between, and stop shifting forever after
[13:35:58] <A-L-P-H-A> but then all the sundials will be messed up forever.
[13:36:06] <A-L-P-H-A> :)
[13:36:08] <SWPadnos> Turn them 7.5 degrees
[13:36:13] <cradek> and boy scouts won't be able to find north with their wristwatches
[13:36:23] <SWPadnos> They can use Polaris
[13:36:35] <A-L-P-H-A> only clear nights.
[13:36:38] <A-L-P-H-A> what about during the day?
[13:36:39] <A-L-P-H-A> heh
[13:36:45] <cradek> I hate boy scouts anyway
[13:36:47] <SWPadnos> Who needs to find North during the day?
[13:36:49] <cradek> screw 'em
[13:36:56] <cradek> boy scouts. duh.
[13:36:58] <SWPadnos> I'm going to write a letter to my senators right now :)
[13:37:02] <A-L-P-H-A> cradek, WHAT? you like screwing boy scouts...
[13:37:04] <A-L-P-H-A> sicko.
[13:37:08] <SWPadnos> Catholic
[13:37:11] <SWPadnos> (d'oh)
[13:37:16] <cradek> let's not talk about that right now.
[13:37:20] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos, that'd be a Catholic Priest.
[13:37:25] <SWPadnos> true enough
[13:37:34] <cradek> I'm not catholic, or a priest.
[13:37:38] <SWPadnos> anyway, moving on, does anyone use EMC?
[13:37:40] <A-L-P-H-A> I'm sure protestan priests molest children too.
[13:37:45] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos, no.
[13:37:50] <SWPadnos> OK - see ya
[13:37:51] <A-L-P-H-A> we just hang around in here for kicks. Or atleast I do.
[13:37:56] <cradek> SWPadnos: not me.
[13:38:21] <SWPadnos> Well - I think my coffee's done - wohoo
[13:38:28] <SWPadnos> woohoo
[13:38:31] <SWPadnos> wheeeeeee
[13:38:33] <SWPadnos> brb
[13:43:29] <SWPadnos> Man - I never realized that Indiana was so screwed up with time zones
[13:50:46] <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes home
[13:52:34] <SWPadnos> see ya Alex
[13:55:49] <alex_joni> bye
[16:59:17] <Jymmm> WooHoo!!! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=757&e=10&u=/ap/20050412/ap_on_re_us/killing_wild_cats
[18:01:57] <bagi> hello
[18:02:06] <bagi> some Question about emc
[18:02:45] <bagi> is the bdi4.20 install iso emc or emc2 based ?
[18:03:28] <SWPadnos> It has parts of both EMC1 and EMC2
[18:03:34] <joe2000chevy> good afternoon
[18:03:40] <SWPadnos> afternoon
[18:04:03] <Jymmm> Hola People of Earth!
[18:04:18] <SWPadnos> who you calling earthlings?
[18:04:33] <bagi> i want to use an isel MPK3 microstepping card
[18:04:52] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Uh, joe2000chevy, I called joe2000chevy an Earthling, yeah that's it, that's the ticket.
[18:05:34] <SWPadnos> very well - we will not be offended (this time) :)
[18:05:41] <bagi> it is now not supported . is the source of emc used for bdi4.20 in the cvs ?
[18:06:04] <SWPadnos> yes - you have to check out EMC2 tag bdi-4
[18:06:49] <bagi> thanks
[18:06:58] <SWPadnos> but I don't know if that specific driver is in there - the BDI uses kernel 2.6, which uses a different compilation scheme than 2.4, so some drivers are missing from BDI-4
[18:07:16] <SWPadnos> (sorry - BDI-4 uses kernel 2.6, others are 2.4, I believe)
[18:09:45] <joe2000chevy> emc2?
[18:10:25] <joe2000chevy> is Emc2 actually available now?
[18:10:40] <joe2000chevy> came in at end of conversation
[18:10:50] <SWPadnos> It's been available for some time. As to whether it's usable, that depends on your hardware
[18:11:10] <bagi> at the moment there is no driver for this card. it is an ISA PCB for 3 Steppers. for each motor 2 L292 and 2 8Bit for the current of the 2 coils.
[18:11:49] <joe2000chevy> hardware as in stepper controller boards?
[18:13:15] <bagi> there to 8 bit port for the 2 Coils ( DAC--> Current) of each Motor.
[18:14:19] <bagi> the steps for the sinewave has to be programmed to the 2 8 Bit ports.
[18:18:33] <pemmet> hi all
[18:20:25] <joe2000chevy> hello
[18:25:37] <SWPadnos> SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away
[18:36:56] <pemmet> i have some questions about steppers...
[18:39:06] <anonimasu> hello
[18:39:44] <pemmet> hio
[18:39:57] <pemmet> are you a stepper master?
[18:40:04] <pemmet> or guru?
[18:40:07] <anonimasu> no way.
[18:40:23] <anonimasu> I dont like steppers at all
[18:40:25] <anonimasu> :)
[18:41:44] <anonimasu> howcome?
[18:42:51] <pemmet> my ish isn't working
[18:42:52] <pemmet> :/
[18:42:58] <anonimasu> oh ok
[18:43:11] <pemmet> it looks and seems like nothin' is broken.. but something just isn't working right with the singals
[18:44:12] <anonimasu> what kind of drives have you got?
[18:44:53] <pemmet> daedal drives from years ago
[18:45:03] <pemmet> daedal 2d stepper table
[18:45:15] <pemmet> opti-isolated drives
[18:45:17] <anonimasu> have you ever been running it from your pc?
[18:45:31] <pemmet> not yet
[18:45:33] <anonimasu> and do you have enough voltage out for the drives?
[18:45:33] <pemmet> that's the problem
[18:45:37] <pemmet> and i dont have the origional controlers
[18:45:41] <anonimasu> voltage/amperage
[18:45:56] <anonimasu> I had trouble with a couple of stepper drives..
[18:46:01] <Jymmm> Heh... I just found SS Mirror (non-grain)
[18:46:04] <pemmet> signals are 3.5V - 5V high logic, while .8VDC for logic low
[18:46:20] <anonimasu> ok that should be ok
[18:46:23] <anonimasu> Jymmm: SS mirrir?
[18:46:25] <anonimasu> mirror?
[18:46:26] <pemmet> ya.. 20 miliamps
[18:46:27] <pemmet> tho
[18:46:38] <Jymmm> anonimasu: polished to a mirror finish
[18:46:39] <pemmet> so i rigged up a buffer set to boost the current..
[18:47:12] <anonimasu> hm, can you get it to step if you generate pulses from somthing else then your pc?
[18:47:14] <Jymmm> anonimasu s/glass/ss/ mirror =)
[18:47:26] <anonimasu> ah..
[18:47:43] <anonimasu> * anonimasu sighs at cnczone
[18:47:57] <anonimasu> I am getting more and more tired..
[18:47:59] <Jymmm> anonimasu gotta love the rants and raves
[18:48:03] <anonimasu> yeah..
[18:48:06] <anonimasu> I love the HSM forum..
[18:48:41] <anonimasu> "hardmill" always talks about frequency tuning.. in all threads..
[18:48:50] <Jymmm> anonimasu: There are ppl whining about push -vs- pull on cooling fans over on another board... I just told em to get a in/outdoor thermometer and measure i tthemselves. KISS
[18:49:13] <anonimasu> yeah
[18:49:44] <Jymmm> You'll love this.... How many group members does it take to change a light bulb?
[18:49:56] <anonimasu> 528,6
[18:50:06] <Jymmm> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
[18:50:06] <Jymmm> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
[18:50:06] <Jymmm> light bulb could have been changed differently
[18:50:06] <Jymmm> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
[18:50:06] <Jymmm> 1 to move it to the Lighting section
[18:50:13] <Jymmm> 2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
[18:50:13] <Jymmm> 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
[18:50:13] <Jymmm> 5 to flame the spell checkers
[18:50:13] <Jymmm> 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
[18:50:14] <Jymmm> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6
[18:50:19] <Jymmm> to condemn those 6 as stupid
[18:50:19] <Jymmm> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
[18:50:20] <Jymmm> 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
[18:50:22] <Jymmm> bulb" is perfectly correct
[18:50:24] <Jymmm> 19 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take
[18:50:26] <Jymmm> this discussion to a lightbulb group
[18:50:28] <Jymmm> 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
[18:50:30] <Jymmm> bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
[18:50:32] <Jymmm> 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
[18:50:34] <Jymmm> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
[18:50:39] <Jymmm> this technique and what brands are faulty
[18:50:40] <Jymmm> 7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
[18:50:42] <Jymmm> 4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
[18:50:44] <Jymmm> corrected URL's
[18:50:46] <Jymmm> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
[18:50:48] <Jymmm> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
[18:50:50] <Jymmm> 5 people to hotlink to pictures of lightbulbs hosted on geocities
[18:50:52] <Jymmm> 6 people to complain about dead images
[18:50:54] <Jymmm> 3 people to tell them to right click the image and copy the URL into
[18:50:56] <Jymmm> another window
[18:50:58] <Jymmm> 13 to read all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
[18:51:00] <Jymmm> all headers, images and signatures, and add "I agree"
[18:51:02] <Jymmm> 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
[18:51:04] <Jymmm> cannot handle the light bulb controversy
[18:51:06] <Jymmm> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
[18:51:08] <Jymmm> 13 to say "do a search onlgtbulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
[18:51:10] <Jymmm> 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
[18:51:12] <Jymmm> start it all over again.
[18:51:14] <Jymmm> ---
[18:51:19] <cradek> 1 to point out that you never use ' to make a word plural
[18:51:28] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[18:51:35] <pemmet> oy
[18:51:38] <anonimasu> bleh, I get sick of it
[18:51:38] <anonimasu> :)
[18:51:41] <cradek> 1 to condemn pastes of over 4 lines
[18:52:26] <Jymmm> * Jymmm pastes cradek to the ground and covers hims with sticky corn syrup near an ant nest
[18:52:59] <anonimasu> I should stop checking cnczone for a while..
[18:53:03] <anonimasu> I just get tired of it..
[18:53:13] <Jymmm> It's a lil overwhemling
[18:53:23] <anonimasu> good forum lots of categories, but well, too little stuff that's relevant..
[18:53:23] <Jymmm> too many topics, too many subject, etc.
[18:53:46] <anonimasu> yep
[18:53:52] <anonimasu> too many trolls.
[18:53:55] <Jymmm> I had to serach to find one forum, many times.
[18:54:04] <Jymmm> cnc laser stuff
[18:54:24] <Jymmm> you think a new board is in order?
[18:54:24] <anonimasu> finding trolls?
[18:54:37] <anonimasu> yeah, somtimes..
[18:54:43] <anonimasu> with a more specialized direction
[18:54:57] <Jymmm> anonimasu Gimme soem ideas
[18:55:43] <Jymmm> I have a domain not being used atm that I could toss somethign up on.
[18:55:55] <anonimasu> I have a couple aswell, although I have no clue..
[18:56:01] <Jymmm> how about a hobby/craft board?
[18:56:48] <anonimasu> hm, I dont know.. I dont really know what kind of machining I am into..
[18:56:51] <anonimasu> it vaies..
[18:57:01] <anonimasu> plastics for work alu for myself alu for work stuff for my mother :)
[18:57:07] <anonimasu> varies..
[18:58:07] <anonimasu> *yawns*
[18:58:12] <anonimasu> I should run make some popcorn
[19:08:48] <acemi> how can I move the machine to the home position in program using G code?
[19:14:23] <anonimasu> depends on where home is..
[19:14:34] <anonimasu> I dont know of a command that'll go there..
[19:15:08] <p3mm3t> p3mm3t is now known as pemmet
[20:07:34] <paul_c> SWP_Away: That is "lamp", not "light bulb"
[20:07:43] <Jymmm> lol
[20:07:56] <SWP_Away> *I* knew that!
[20:08:00] <paul_c> maybe next week...
[20:08:15] <SWP_Away> Would you like to buy some disadvantaged light bulbs?
[20:08:38] <paul_c> got some already thanks
[20:08:45] <SWP_Away> excellent
[20:08:58] <SWP_Away> would you like to buy a disadvantaged light bulb changer?
[20:09:15] <paul_c> a busty blonde one ?
[20:09:21] <Jymmm> SWP_Away : isn't that what les is for?
[20:09:38] <SWP_Away> paul_c: Hmmm - I don't have any of those in stock at the moment :)
[20:10:30] <Jymmm> paul_c: I have a Well endowed TRUE redhead advantaged light bulb changer available for immediate delivery
[20:10:51] <SWP_Away> too temperamental :)
[20:11:03] <paul_c> pictures ?
[20:11:14] <Jymmm> your confusing temperamental with fiesty
[20:11:47] <Jymmm> paul_c not work safe =)
[20:12:34] <paul_c> I'll gve it a miss...
[20:13:03] <SWP_Away> Miss California?
[20:14:11] <Jymmm> paul_c: Well, when your ready to order... http://images.google.com/images?q=heather%20christensen&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi
[20:28:16] <A-L-P-H-A> Jymmm, she's freak'n how.
[20:28:28] <A-L-P-H-A> hot
[20:29:38] <SWP_Away> how hot?
[20:30:43] <A-L-P-H-A> She's an 8.5/10. Definite shag. Zero beer required.
[20:31:00] <A-L-P-H-A> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://galeon.hispavista.com/redheads/img/btop_beauties_064_heather_christensen.jpg&imgrefurl=http://redheads.galeon.com/&h=1000&w=743&sz=138&tbnid=FKzU0vFmMM4J:&tbnh=148&tbnw=110&start=5&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dheather%2Bchristensen%26svnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
[20:31:02] <SWP_Away> heh - no beer goggles necessary
[20:43:37] <Phydbleep> Man if you need beer-goggles to look at that you have no appreciation for fine art. :)
[20:44:41] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep notices that everyones hands seem too busy to reply....
[20:44:45] <Phydbleep> Hehehe.. :)
[20:45:05] <SWP_Away> har har
[20:45:17] <anonimasu> * anonimasu is working
[20:46:44] <A-L-P-H-A> * A-L-P-H-A shall give a detailed description of how his hands were moving.
[20:46:48] <A-L-P-H-A> heh
[20:47:43] <anonimasu> hm, doing webdesign makes you need beer-googles
[20:48:05] <anonimasu> I should be playing with *nix
[20:48:09] <anonimasu> coding somthing instead..
[20:48:18] <Phydbleep> I thought watching politics made you need beer goggles.
[20:48:36] <Phydbleep> Or at least want them...
[20:48:46] <A-L-P-H-A> with candidates that look like H. Clinton... yeah
[20:49:25] <Phydbleep> Better than Madeline albright.
[20:49:28] <anonimasu> need/want
[20:51:19] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep wonders what percentage of the channel has gone blind after a quick google...
[20:56:11] <robin_sz> meep?
[20:56:36] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz, you missed the porn
[20:56:42] <robin_sz> dang ;)
[20:56:49] <A-L-P-H-A> no. good porn.
[20:57:06] <robin_sz> I beleive there is plenty on the net ...
[20:57:58] <A-L-P-H-A> enough to make a blind man go death.
[20:58:31] <SWP_Away> Heather Christensen, in case you were wondering
[20:58:37] <robin_sz> Who?
[20:59:07] <SWP_Away> Some cute redhead model
[20:59:23] <A-L-P-H-A> [16:23:43] <Jymmm> paul_c: Well, when your ready to order... http://images.google.com/images?q=heather%20christensen&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi
[20:59:30] <A-L-P-H-A> </quote>
[20:59:54] <robin_sz> looks like one of the Tatu girls
[21:00:06] <A-L-P-H-A> The russian lesbian song girls?
[21:00:12] <A-L-P-H-A> which only had one hit?
[21:01:02] <robin_sz> they had several hits ...
[21:01:19] <robin_sz> ummm, but only one song
[21:01:28] <SWP_Away> and, more importantly, several tits
[21:01:36] <robin_sz> indeed.
[21:02:00] <SWP_Away> (though I'm just surmising - I've never heard of them)
[21:02:07] <A-L-P-H-A> they were a little young... weren't they like 16?
[21:02:17] <robin_sz> no idea
[21:02:26] <A-L-P-H-A> surprised robin_sz's looking at little children.
[21:02:39] <SWP_Away> He didn't know :)
[21:02:51] <A-L-P-H-A> ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law...
[21:03:05] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz... go report yourself to your local authorities, that you're a sexual predator.
[21:03:10] <robin_sz> ISTR they appeared in FHM or Loaded in the UK, one of the new 'Lads' magazines ...
[21:03:21] <SWP_Away> The law is not an excuse in the eyes of ignorance.
[21:03:27] <SWP_Away> (or ignorants)
[21:03:38] <A-L-P-H-A> For Him Magazine. Here in North America as well.
[21:03:49] <A-L-P-H-A> you guys I think get nudes.
[21:03:49] <SWP_Away> Friggin Hot Mama magazine
[21:03:50] <A-L-P-H-A> we don't.
[21:03:56] <robin_sz> so being underage is rather unlikely
[21:05:04] <robin_sz> although, russia is a little lawless ... anyting is possible I guess
[21:05:17] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz... order a second wife. :)
[21:05:26] <robin_sz> hmm.
[21:05:38] <robin_sz> will they take my old on ein part exchange?
[21:05:49] <A-L-P-H-A> if the first one is jealous... just exchange for a 3rd one...
[21:06:11] <robin_sz> my current one is 42, perhaps I can swap it for a pair of 21s
[21:06:34] <A-L-P-H-A> what's the legal drinking age in britian?
[21:06:39] <robin_sz> no,
[21:06:41] <robin_sz> 18
[21:06:52] <A-L-P-H-A> so get a paid of 18's... and they can keep the difference. :D
[21:06:56] <A-L-P-H-A> paid=pair
[21:07:03] <robin_sz> good call
[21:07:10] <SWP_Away> or save the difference for a alter upgrade (invest)
[21:07:13] <SWP_Away> a later
[21:08:08] <robin_sz> drinking age in pubs in the UK is 18, no limit at home AFAIK, and anyway, most of the pubs are full of 15yr olds anyway
[21:08:30] <SWP_Away> I noticed that - pubs are family places in England
[21:08:35] <robin_sz> yeah
[21:08:45] <A-L-P-H-A> 15?!?
[21:08:46] <robin_sz> kids arent supposed to drink though
[21:09:00] <SWP_Away> It's cool, until the inevitable group of smokers sits next to you
[21:09:09] <robin_sz> thats changing
[21:09:10] <A-L-P-H-A> horray for Toronto.
[21:09:17] <A-L-P-H-A> we have a no indoor smoking law.
[21:09:22] <robin_sz> kewl
[21:09:30] <A-L-P-H-A> so you see all the addicts on the patio smoking.
[21:09:34] <SWP_Away> We've had that in Vermont for around 15 years - it's starting to apply to bars as well
[21:09:38] <A-L-P-H-A> while indoors, it's perfectly clear.
[21:09:40] <A-L-P-H-A> smoke free.
[21:09:46] <robin_sz> sounds good
[21:09:55] <A-L-P-H-A> SWP_Away, stop being away.
[21:10:03] <robin_sz> they should supply free high-tar tobacco onthe state though
[21:10:05] <A-L-P-H-A> SWP_Away, we've been smoke free for a year... all places.
[21:10:12] <SWP_Away> It's hard to go places like Germany if you're used to a smoke-free environment
[21:10:31] <A-L-P-H-A> SWP_Away, try China, or Korea, or Japan.
[21:10:39] <robin_sz> denmark os bad too
[21:10:41] <A-L-P-H-A> they all smoke...
[21:10:42] <robin_sz> france ...
[21:10:42] <SWP_Away> A-L-P-H-A: I'm still away - my fingers just don't know that :)
[21:11:00] <robin_sz> france I think has compulsory smoking
[21:11:06] <robin_sz> they teach it in schools
[21:11:20] <A-L-P-H-A> SWP_Away. if you use your whole hand, that is if your hand is approxiamately the same size, it's more effective than just fingers.
[21:11:33] <SWP_Away> <ALT-TAB>
[21:11:58] <SWP_Away> * SWP_Away is not listening and actually trying to get some work done
[21:12:05] <SWP_Away> but it's not working
[21:12:37] <robin_sz> right .. is this emc ting finoshed yet?
[21:13:04] <SWP_Away> Ja, Mon - dis ting be finished
[21:13:39] <robin_sz> great ... whats next on the list?
[21:13:55] <robin_sz> saving the whale?
[21:14:11] <Phydbleep> World peace.. Or was it cheese pizza.
[21:14:22] <robin_sz> mmmm pizza!
[21:15:42] <robin_sz> ahh well, I must be off
[21:16:20] <Phydbleep> * Phydbleep thought everyone here was already "off"...
[21:19:01] <Jymmm> off their rocker maybe
[21:59:29] <dmess> High all... great day to hang-glide... ; )
[22:00:01] <dmess> no cnc landing gear involved..
[22:00:40] <anonimasu> :/
[22:00:40] <Jymmm> dmess that sucks! =)
[22:00:45] <anonimasu> yeah
[22:00:57] <anonimasu> just kidding it was probably nice
[22:01:15] <dmess> only thing that sucks is you couldn't join me...
[22:01:18] <anonimasu> yeah
[22:01:28] <Jymmm> dmess where at on the planet?
[22:01:43] <dmess> Toronto area
[22:01:54] <Jymmm> they have hills on Toronot?
[22:01:57] <Jymmm> Toronto
[22:01:58] <dmess> you Jymmm
[22:02:01] <Jymmm> SFO
[22:02:20] <dmess> no hills... a BIG ASS fishing reel
[22:02:41] <dmess> www.uflyontario.com
[22:02:42] <Jymmm> Oh that lil lake you have over there
[22:03:16] <Jymmm> I was surprised that you cannot see the shoreline on the other side
[22:03:20] <dmess> not on the lake... and its 33 miles across that little lake at the littlest pt.
[22:04:11] <Jymmm> I like toronto... bldg, bldg, park. bldg, bldg, park. bldg, bldg, park.
[22:04:14] <dmess> ive seen the lights on the otherside from a catameran and had to turn to get home...
[22:04:29] <dmess> where are you??
[22:04:33] <Jymmm> SFO
[22:04:47] <dmess> SFO=??
[22:05:10] <Jymmm> SFO == San Francsico
[22:05:23] <Jymmm> YYZ == Toronto
[22:05:25] <dmess> oh its still early there
[22:05:31] <Jymmm> LAX == Los Angeles
[22:05:41] <dmess> yup yyz=toronto=RUSH
[22:05:42] <Jymmm> DFW == Dalla/Fort Worth =)
[22:06:09] <dmess> sorry never flew int sfo
[22:06:35] <Jymmm> Tis cool, I just do some geo stuff, and go by airport codes
[22:07:03] <dmess> works for me as long as thats where were going...
[22:07:25] <dmess> you see Harold & Kumar goto Whitecastle
[22:07:35] <Jymmm> Well, it's a good way to distinguisha METRO area
[22:07:59] <Jymmm> they're unique globally
[22:08:09] <dmess> true
[22:11:30] <Jymmm> I was thinking about getting a sherline, but too small to use a tapping head =(
[22:11:41] <Jymmm> physically
[22:24:10] <dmess> the look tiny... I started at Messier-Dowty today....
[22:24:32] <dmess> they got some nice euipment
[22:26:10] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[22:26:21] <anonimasu> whatever you do dont get a too small machine
[22:27:15] <dmess> you'll be forever trying to stretch it..
[22:27:24] <anonimasu> yep
[22:27:33] <anonimasu> I find my table too small..
[22:27:39] <anonimasu> and it's not small..
[22:27:58] <dmess> we'de get a bigger machine.... boss would go get a BIGGER part..
[22:28:28] <dmess> and im talking 3 & 4 M travels...
[22:28:29] <anonimasu> hehe
[22:28:30] <anonimasu> niec
[22:28:32] <anonimasu> nice
[22:28:50] <dmess> 3 on Y-axis
[22:29:05] <anonimasu> cute little machine
[22:29:23] <dmess> then went to 4 on y and 8 on x
[22:29:36] <dmess> not so "cute " anymore
[22:29:54] <anonimasu> well when a flying endmill will take your arm off it's not cute ;)
[22:30:51] <dmess> i ran 2.5" x 16" with 12" flute and LOC.. on the beast
[22:31:18] <dmess> a friend tried to tap a 4" gole with her once...
[22:31:25] <anonimasu> argh
[22:31:44] <dmess> had to go in at 230 rpm .. it wasnt pretty..
[22:37:20] <dmess> we hide that part from the customers visiting the next day
[22:38:53] <anonimasu> hehe
[22:38:54] <anonimasu> scary
[22:42:47] <dmess> he said he changed underwear and punched out... left it all... called me from home at 3am once he had a beer in him to calm down..
[22:43:20] <Phydbleep> How do you hide blood and body parts up the wall and across the ceiling from a customer..
[22:44:01] <Phydbleep> "Oh ignore that, We're re-decorating and the decorator is trying a neo-slaughterhouse look"..
[22:46:11] <Jymmm> lol
[22:49:02] <anonimasu> machining can be scary
[22:49:16] <Jymmm> dmess what happened now?
[22:49:41] <Jymmm> the beer underwear thing?
[22:49:57] <Jymmm> anonimasu you use SolidWorks dont you?
[22:53:45] <anonimasu> yes
[22:55:29] <anonimasu> howcome?
[22:55:45] <Jymmm> anonimasu how did you learn it?
[22:56:08] <anonimasu> I dont know, I tried it and I could just draw in it..
[22:56:24] <Jymmm> did you know any other CAD program before then?
[22:56:33] <anonimasu> hm, just 3d programs..
[22:56:44] <anonimasu> lightwave/3dsmax/simliar things
[22:56:44] <Jymmm> anonimasu ah, ok.
[22:56:54] <anonimasu> it's pretty intuitive
[22:57:12] <Jymmm> anonimasu Except when yout trying to make an unusual shaped part
[22:57:26] <anonimasu> hmm..
[22:57:30] <Jymmm> I just dont know the controls/tools yet
[22:57:38] <anonimasu> if you have a problem ask away
[22:58:06] <Jymmm> anonimasu I went thru the 1st three tutorials, and reading hte manual now.
[22:58:32] <anonimasu> ok
[23:00:16] <anonimasu> well I'll be going to bed now
[23:00:19] <anonimasu> goodnight everyone
[23:00:30] <Jymmm> G'Night anonimasu