#emc | Logs for 2005-02-16

[00:18:37] <robin_sz> febisfebi: to change the pins you have to recompile
[00:23:15] <anonimasu> :/
[00:23:42] <robin_sz> yeah, i know
[00:23:52] <robin_sz> thtas why emc2 got started ;)
[00:23:57] <anonimasu> lol
[00:24:42] <robin_sz> argh .. too much wine
[00:24:45] <robin_sz> hot fire
[00:24:54] <robin_sz> and its late
[00:25:03] <anonimasu> hm, I am hand writing this program..
[00:25:14] <anonimasu> stupid cam program that cant generate arcs instead of lines.
[00:25:16] <robin_sz> and?
[00:25:23] <robin_sz> oh
[00:25:38] <robin_sz> 2d or 3d?
[00:26:34] <anonimasu> 2.5dg01 z19
[00:26:34] <anonimasu> g01 z-5
[00:26:35] <anonimasu> err
[00:26:38] <anonimasu> http://www.bojn.net/~an0n/part01.JPG
[00:27:12] <robin_sz> you have an .stl file?
[00:27:17] <anonimasu> yes
[00:27:24] <anonimasu> err iges..
[00:27:36] <anonimasu> I think I can export one
[00:27:41] <robin_sz> iges I always have trouble with ... so many formats
[00:28:53] <robin_sz> argh ,.. to much wine, i could try and feed it throuhg a cam package but its gone midnight and im a bit ...
[00:28:56] <robin_sz> errm ...
[00:29:02] <robin_sz> whats the word?
[00:29:24] <anonimasu> hm, drunk?
[00:29:28] <robin_sz> thats it
[00:29:30] <robin_sz> drunk
[00:29:34] <robin_sz> slightly
[00:30:01] <anonimasu> hehe
[00:30:07] <anonimasu> I wish I were like that also
[00:30:45] <anonimasu> I got a stl now
[00:31:10] <robin_sz> holding@redpoint.org.uk
[00:32:02] <robin_sz> you just want it machining away, in the red shaded bit?
[00:32:15] <anonimasu> yeah
[00:32:21] <robin_sz> cutter dia and depth per pass
[00:32:32] <anonimasu> 6mm cutter
[00:32:45] <anonimasu> 50% of cutter dia
[00:32:54] <anonimasu> or 60%
[00:33:01] <anonimasu> I am machining plastic :)
[00:33:38] <robin_sz> loadibg ...
[00:33:41] <anonimasu> ok
[00:34:19] <anonimasu> the main problem is probably me & my cam package.. :)
[00:36:10] <robin_sz> 20x60x60 stock?
[00:36:54] <anonimasu> the stock is somthing like 70x100
[00:37:10] <anonimasu> x20
[00:37:50] <robin_sz> tht
[00:37:55] <robin_sz> thats a lott
[00:38:00] <robin_sz> to machine away
[00:38:13] <robin_sz> part os 60x60
[00:38:18] <robin_sz> e
[00:38:23] <robin_sz> * robin_sz cant type :)
[00:38:24] <anonimasu> yeah but I just cut a test piece of the plastic..
[00:38:25] <anonimasu> :)
[00:38:50] <anonimasu> it's to be machined out..
[00:39:07] <anonimasu> err contoured out of the platic piece
[00:39:15] <robin_sz> so I use 60x60 as the stock
[00:39:20] <robin_sz> damn it wantd
[00:39:24] <anonimasu> yeah
[00:39:25] <robin_sz> to cut thods
[00:39:30] <anonimasu> ?
[00:39:32] <robin_sz> outside chmfers
[00:39:41] <anonimasu> want me to remove them?
[00:40:00] <robin_sz> lets see if the code works first
[00:40:04] <anonimasu> and mail you it again?ok
[00:40:07] <anonimasu> :)
[00:41:20] <robin_sz> sent
[00:41:29] <anonimasu> ok
[00:41:30] <anonimasu> :)
[00:41:58] <robin_sz> oopsy
[00:42:05] <robin_sz> ballmill not flat
[00:42:14] <robin_sz> bah, should be the same
[00:42:45] <anonimasu> iyeah
[00:42:50] <anonimasu> :)
[00:43:03] <anonimasu> my mailserver is a bit slow on incomming
[00:43:09] <anonimasu> since it scans everything :)
[00:43:29] <robin_sz> damn .. and 12mm ... wait 1
[00:44:10] <anonimasu> hehe
[00:44:46] <robin_sz> sent again
[00:44:58] <anonimasu> thanks
[00:45:04] <robin_sz> way too much wine!
[00:45:08] <anonimasu> haha
[00:45:21] <robin_sz> thats just a roughing pass, want a finish pass with same cutter?
[00:45:41] <anonimasu> yes plase
[00:45:43] <anonimasu> please3
[00:45:58] <anonimasu> heh, your influencing me to make typos too
[00:45:59] <anonimasu> :)
[00:47:16] <robin_sz> this is for 60x60 stock, it will try and finish the outside ...
[00:47:57] <anonimasu> :)
[00:48:11] <robin_sz> I forget exactly what post htis is now ... shuld be close though
[00:48:22] <anonimasu> :)
[00:48:48] <les> hi guys
[00:49:25] <anonimasu> hey les
[00:49:25] <robin_sz> hi
[00:49:28] <robin_sz> <hic>
[00:49:38] <robin_sz> sent ...
[00:49:44] <les> just finished my diamond sharpening jig after a long day
[00:49:53] <robin_sz> nice
[00:49:57] <anonimasu> tried it?
[00:50:03] <robin_sz> and does it sharpen your diamonds nicely?
[00:50:15] <les> nope...will true the wheel tommorow
[00:50:18] <les> heh
[00:50:53] <les> I made an arbor accurate enough that I will not have to retrue after breaking setup
[00:51:10] <les> couple tenths runout
[00:51:11] <anonimasu> les: nice
[00:51:23] <anonimasu> mm/"
[00:51:44] <les> .005 mm tir
[00:52:23] <anonimasu> ah neat
[00:52:28] <les> To get that I must align the collet to a radial mark each time
[00:52:45] <les> so it goes in exactly the same
[00:53:01] <anonimasu> robin_sz: I'll try it in like 2 minutes
[00:53:23] <robin_sz> still has the plunges for the edge chamfers
[00:53:40] <anonimasu> :)
[00:53:46] <anonimasu> I am just simulating yet
[00:53:51] <robin_sz> right
[00:54:01] <robin_sz> you have grpahical viewer?
[00:54:08] <anonimasu> emc + backplot
[00:54:12] <robin_sz> k
[00:54:25] <anonimasu> it's the machining time that I am looking at
[00:54:31] <robin_sz> ah,
[00:54:38] <robin_sz> what did I set as feeds?
[00:54:41] <anonimasu> I need it to make the o with arcs to get it smooth..
[00:54:47] <robin_sz> random I suspect
[00:54:50] <anonimasu> 0.6"
[00:54:51] <anonimasu> heh
[00:54:53] <anonimasu> :)
[00:54:56] <robin_sz> sigh
[00:54:59] <anonimasu> or well smooth/fast..
[00:55:18] <anonimasu> the trouble is that cam packages break stuff like that up in lines..
[00:55:44] <robin_sz> perl -pi -e's/F0.6/Fxxx/' foo.txt
[00:56:17] <robin_sz> running steppersegmod?
[00:56:28] <anonimasu> yes
[00:56:41] <anonimasu> emc2 dosent have segmentqueue or does it?
[00:56:42] <robin_sz> should be fine in segments or arcs really
[00:56:44] <anonimasu> err..
[00:56:47] <anonimasu> no
[00:56:47] <robin_sz> ah
[00:56:49] <robin_sz> emc2
[00:56:54] <anonimasu> motmod.o
[00:56:59] <anonimasu> or what it's called :)
[00:57:07] <robin_sz> * robin_sz has no eyed deer
[00:57:25] <anonimasu> ?
[00:57:38] <robin_sz> no idea
[00:57:55] <les> hmmm checking my email I see I have a request for an acoustics consulting gig
[00:58:16] <les> another portable power tool silencing job no doubt
[00:59:02] <anonimasu> :)
[00:59:38] <robin_sz> here, have some pseudo random fan blade spacing ;)
[00:59:47] <les> yeah
[00:59:59] <anonimasu> haha
[01:00:04] <les> well this is Paslode...an ITW division
[01:00:10] <les> pneumatic nailers
[01:00:18] <robin_sz> right
[01:00:44] <robin_sz> I cansee that could be fun
[01:00:50] <les> hmmm I am a muffler designer again?
[01:00:59] <robin_sz> plenty of oportunity for using casings as mufflers
[01:01:01] <anonimasu> my code works great now also ^_^
[01:01:13] <les> yup
[01:01:17] <anonimasu> I found out how to mill it with in arcs
[01:01:24] <robin_sz> ah :)
[01:01:33] <anonimasu> I'll try the one that you sent me too :)
[01:01:47] <anonimasu> the pices are supposed to take like 5 minutes each
[01:01:56] <robin_sz> I gave up hand coding years ago ...
[01:02:03] <anonimasu> oh I dont hand code ;)
[01:02:14] <anonimasu> I feel the same..
[01:02:14] <les> I should read back...but what are you making?
[01:02:22] <robin_sz> chips
[01:02:26] <les> ha
[01:02:31] <anonimasu> yeah
[01:02:32] <robin_sz> and tooling parts
[01:02:42] <anonimasu> a housing for a tree seed planting device..
[01:02:55] <les> cool
[01:03:13] <anonimasu> this one I am trying to machine is the first prototype..
[01:03:17] <anonimasu> ;)
[01:03:49] <les> I hope to have a bit more of that kind of thing after turkey season
[01:04:10] <anonimasu> we are going to market em with the other stuff we make for making the holes to put the seed in ;)
[01:04:17] <les> I had better...I hired a retired engineer part time for the machine tool end
[01:04:38] <les> computer controlled?
[01:04:49] <anonimasu> yep
[01:04:51] <anonimasu> PLC's
[01:05:06] <les> yeah use those cheap super PLCs
[01:05:11] <anonimasu> haha
[01:05:12] <anonimasu> LOL
[01:05:17] <anonimasu> they are expensive but very good..
[01:05:39] <anonimasu> but well they do multitasking and stuff like that..
[01:06:08] <les> $200....pid servo....stepper... lots of analog and digital io....progams in basic and ladder
[01:06:28] <les> 10 amp 24v outputs
[01:06:41] <anonimasu> programming this in ladder wont cut it :)
[01:06:50] <les> I am using that for the spray painting robot
[01:07:02] <anonimasu> yeah but you dont have 2 chnnels to control..
[01:07:14] <anonimasu> it's more like 2 robots.. with sensors and stuff..
[01:07:26] <anonimasu> that's running in paralell on the same plc..
[01:07:33] <les> same here...that is why I like the ones that progam in a language
[01:07:46] <anonimasu> the ones I work with is in some C-ish language..
[01:07:47] <les> Basic is not the best...but it will do nicely
[01:07:55] <anonimasu> it does c++/c also ;)
[01:08:03] <les> neat
[01:08:08] <anonimasu> or any language that can give a .coff
[01:08:33] <anonimasu> :)
[01:08:51] <les> I have to review basic a little...have not written in it in many years
[01:09:03] <anonimasu> hehe
[01:09:12] <anonimasu> I wouldnt enjoy writing this in basic..
[01:09:17] <anonimasu> it's too much stuff..
[01:09:28] <anonimasu> :)
[01:09:50] <les> let's see...instead of switch() it's case_select()
[01:10:27] <anonimasu> user interfaces and stuff also.. and serial port interface for the PC in the machine's they mount on ;)
[01:11:05] <anonimasu> robin_sz: you have the same problem with that program that I had with mine earlier
[01:11:13] <robin_sz> sigh
[01:11:14] <les> yeah this one I am using is rs-232 and 485
[01:12:14] <les> well I have bugged you enough...off to the music room for a few tunes
[01:12:35] <les> Miles and jimi hendrix?
[01:12:44] <anonimasu> nice
[01:12:55] <les> later!
[01:12:57] <anonimasu> I am listening to infected mushroom..
[01:12:58] <anonimasu> :)
[01:13:02] <les> haha
[01:13:11] <anonimasu> keeping my brain spinning..
[01:13:31] <anonimasu> I am dead tired..
[01:14:03] <les> me too..took 12 hrs to make that grinding fixture
[01:14:07] <anonimasu> haha
[01:14:16] <anonimasu> that beats what I've done today :)
[01:14:39] <anonimasu> I am looking forward to hearing how it works
[01:14:51] <les> Had to do it...I am 6 or so hours from having no sharp cutters
[01:15:19] <les> But sharpening carbide spiral end mills will be good
[01:15:26] <anonimasu> yeah
[01:15:37] <anonimasu> I think I got myself into some trouble today also..
[01:15:58] <anonimasu> a friend asked if I could machine some gears off a gearbox shaft..
[01:16:20] <anonimasu> but I think that will go well :)
[01:16:35] <les> machining the teeth?
[01:16:47] <anonimasu> turning them away..
[01:16:49] <anonimasu> in the lathe :)
[01:17:00] <les> oh!
[01:17:28] <les> All the stuff I made today was 1140 prehard
[01:17:36] <les> machines nice though
[01:17:44] <anonimasu> I cant relate to how hard that is
[01:17:44] <anonimasu> :)
[01:17:49] <anonimasu> is that brinell?
[01:17:54] <anonimasu> 1140?
[01:17:57] <les> rockwell c 30 or so
[01:18:25] <les> also known by the trade name "fatigueproof"
[01:18:47] <les> used a lot in car transmissions
[01:19:05] <les> has a very good machinability rating
[01:19:10] <anonimasu> ok
[01:19:11] <anonimasu> :)
[01:19:12] <les> 80% or so
[01:19:27] <les> pretty amazing for something that hard
[01:19:37] <anonimasu> nice
[01:19:53] <les> Get some...you'll love it
[01:20:00] <anonimasu> :)
[01:20:15] <anonimasu> oh it's not that hard..
[01:20:30] <anonimasu> I machined some 300 brinell hardox on my small mill
[01:20:32] <anonimasu> 331
[01:20:38] <anonimasu> C35 is 331 brinell
[01:20:41] <les> hardened hyoeutechtoid steel that machines like butter
[01:20:53] <anonimasu> c30 is 285 brinell
[01:20:54] <les> eutectoid
[01:20:56] <les> oops
[01:21:05] <anonimasu> although it depends on how sharp cutter you have :)
[01:21:19] <les> yes
[01:21:31] <anonimasu> I just tried it, the metal got all shiny afterwards..
[01:21:31] <les> Machined with cemented carbide
[01:21:38] <anonimasu> :D
[01:21:46] <anonimasu> I wish I had a good source for stuff like that
[01:21:51] <anonimasu> my supplier is limited..
[01:21:59] <anonimasu> but I can get stainless and alu now
[01:22:09] <les> hard turning is cool...5 times the efficiency of grinding
[01:22:16] <anonimasu> hard turning?
[01:22:40] <les> single point machining of hardened materials
[01:22:43] <anonimasu> I've never heard about it..
[01:22:44] <anonimasu> ah ok..
[01:23:02] <les> with carbide or polycrystalline diamond
[01:23:08] <anonimasu> neat
[01:23:27] <anonimasu> I have loads of SECO carbide inserts..
[01:23:28] <anonimasu> :)
[01:23:46] <anonimasu> that I bought off a auction..
[01:24:14] <les> I use either c2 carbide or M43 cobalt for most stuff
[01:24:39] <anonimasu> :)
[01:24:53] <anonimasu> I love the questions on cnczone on how to make holes in carbide..
[01:26:08] <anonimasu> with the effort it requires it'd probably be cheaper to have somone edm them
[01:27:05] <les> yeah I guess
[01:28:16] <les> I am looking at my diamond cleaning stick...
[01:28:28] <anonimasu> :)
[01:28:29] <les> It opens the grain after truing
[01:28:38] <les> its aluminum oxide
[01:28:56] <les> seems strange to use that for cleaning
[01:29:12] <anonimasu> yeah
[01:29:34] <les> I guess it abrades away the resinoid binder
[01:29:48] <les> but does not dull the diamond grains
[01:30:07] <anonimasu> that sounds right
[01:30:53] <les> Seems reasonable I guess...I have used the same diamond point to true aluminum oxise wheels on the surface grinder for years
[01:30:59] <les> oxide
[01:31:29] <anonimasu> I wish I had s surace grinder..
[01:31:37] <robin_sz> you can take loads off with a dimaond point too.
[01:31:43] <anonimasu> I found one at a auction for 25$..
[01:31:47] <les> They are handy
[01:31:52] <anonimasu> but it was too much work..
[01:31:58] <les> I used mine a bit today
[01:32:05] <les> first time in months
[01:32:16] <les> but when you need them you need them
[01:32:17] <anonimasu> I'd love to be able to grind steel pices..
[01:32:18] <robin_sz> nice little cylindrical grinder is nice if you get one
[01:32:29] <anonimasu> enirely flat..
[01:32:32] <robin_sz> little myford ot the like
[01:32:46] <les> I have two themac tool post grinders for the lathe
[01:32:48] <anonimasu> like jaws for vises and stuff..
[01:33:19] <les> I rescraped the surface grinder with a lab grade surface plate
[01:33:24] <anonimasu> :)
[01:33:27] <les> so it is very accurate
[01:33:54] <les> put a ground part on the plate and the indicator doesn't move
[01:33:56] <robin_sz> i like my lathe too much touse a toolpost grinder
[01:34:08] <anonimasu> yeah
[01:34:23] <anonimasu> that's nice
[01:34:25] <les> I just tape polythene all aroung the ways
[01:34:44] <robin_sz> how do you keep it out of the coolant?
[01:34:52] <les> cover everything up
[01:34:55] <anonimasu> I'll be sending my mill table for surface grinding later
[01:34:57] <les> I grind dry
[01:35:00] <anonimasu> I just need more toolmarks into it ;)
[01:35:05] <anonimasu> err on
[01:35:32] <les> but they are slow....01 mm is a DEEP cut for them
[01:35:51] <anonimasu> surface grinders or toolpost grinders?
[01:36:00] <les> tool post
[01:36:03] <anonimasu> ah yeah
[01:36:19] <anonimasu> turning first and then grinding :) is a good way to make it quickly..
[01:36:36] <les> today on the surface grinder I was using .06 mm roughing cuts
[01:36:44] <anonimasu> haha
[01:36:48] <anonimasu> heavy
[01:36:53] <les> then spark off at .005 mm
[01:37:55] <les> I used the new norton type 32 hybrid ceramic wheels
[01:38:04] <les> They are very nice
[01:38:23] <anonimasu> robin_sz: that program is still running
[01:38:24] <anonimasu> :)
[01:38:25] <les> I will not buy anymore pink or white wheels
[01:38:46] <robin_sz> at 0.6" minute im not suprised
[01:38:54] <anonimasu> oh I am running at 500mm/min
[01:38:56] <robin_sz> delete all the F words! :)
[01:40:17] <anonimasu> hehe
[01:40:45] <anonimasu> * anonimasu yawns
[01:41:37] <les> me too...hey wasn't I going to the music room?
[01:41:56] <anonimasu> yeah you were
[01:42:03] <les> well I shall
[01:42:10] <anonimasu> I'll be heading for the shower..
[01:42:12] <les> have fun
[01:42:15] <anonimasu> I'll finish this program tomorrow
[01:42:16] <anonimasu> lol
[01:42:22] <anonimasu> I hope I dont fall asleep and drown
[01:42:27] <les> bye guys
[01:42:31] <anonimasu> it's 02:47 over here
[01:42:34] <anonimasu> bye les
[01:43:03] <anonimasu> robin_sz: thanks for the help!
[01:45:30] <anonimasu> night everyone
[13:07:05] <anonimasu> hmm
[16:12:59] <anonimasu> hello
[16:55:15] <A-L-P-H-A> hello anonimasu.
[17:42:31] <websys> robin - recovered from the wine?
[20:29:17] <anonimasu> anyone here?
[21:28:09] <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu, me.
[21:56:53] <les> hello all
[21:57:33] <les> well the diamond carbide grinding setup is working pretty well
[21:58:02] <les> the diamond cup wheel goes through c2 carbide like butter
[21:58:52] <les> The moh hardness scale is obviously not linear
[21:58:54] <anonimasu> nice
[21:59:13] <anonimasu> I've been having trouble with emc today
[21:59:14] <anonimasu> :/
[21:59:30] <les> and the aluminum oxide cleaning stick works well
[21:59:39] <les> what problems?
[21:59:41] <anonimasu> I get loads of ferrors
[21:59:55] <anonimasu> I have my min_ferror set to 0.01 and max_ferror to 1
[22:00:22] <les> I have mine set so tight that if I start in the morning before the shop is heated up it will estop
[22:00:32] <anonimasu> but when I accelerate over 500mm/min it gets joint following error
[22:00:37] <les> servo or stepper?
[22:00:43] <anonimasu> geckos with servos..
[22:00:52] <les> ok
[22:01:04] <les> the ferror is just a virtual thing
[22:01:14] <les> put in big numbers
[22:01:19] <anonimasu> the most I'll ever have are +/- 128 counts..
[22:01:45] <les> right...the gecko controls ferror estop...not emc
[22:01:52] <anonimasu> yep
[22:02:01] <anonimasu> so I can just ignore it and put my ferror high..
[22:02:07] <anonimasu> is that right?
[22:02:19] <les> emc numbers are just for the virtual software servo model
[22:02:37] <les> They have no real physical significance
[22:02:40] <anonimasu> the machine moves at 1000mm/min without problems it just ferrors pretty quickly..
[22:02:43] <anonimasu> just like that...
[22:03:03] <anonimasu> I'll be getting a vital card later on but I need to do some more work on the machine to justify the purchase
[22:03:18] <les> Only in full servo mode do the emc ferror numbers do anything
[22:03:38] <les> I will use the vital on the second mill coming in
[22:03:53] <anonimasu> I'll wait for my purchase until you've been testing it for a bit ;)
[22:04:00] <les> haha
[22:04:01] <les> ok
[22:04:05] <anonimasu> I think g2002 seems nice also..
[22:04:19] <anonimasu> but I like having the feedback like on real machines..
[22:04:25] <les> well buddy, the guy near me, got it to work fine on a real machine
[22:04:32] <les> so i'm ready
[22:04:38] <les> all I need is time
[22:04:42] <anonimasu> :)
[22:04:52] <anonimasu> I dont care much for the money.. I've already invested too much to care
[22:05:02] <les> I called and will have so engineering to do in march
[22:05:10] <anonimasu> nice
[22:05:11] <les> some
[22:05:31] <anonimasu> what kind of?
[22:05:31] <les> It's for ITW Ransburg/Gema
[22:05:39] <anonimasu> that seems cool
[22:05:43] <les> The inventors of Powder coating
[22:05:52] <les> Robin would like that
[22:06:04] <anonimasu> hehe yeah :)
[22:06:50] <anonimasu> well if that's the case with ferror I might be able to machine theese parts tomorrow
[22:06:56] <les> We need to develop a method to compete with Graco's air turbine generator that develops high voltage from the air supply
[22:07:14] <les> I am going to try a whistle!
[22:07:28] <anonimasu> whistle?
[22:07:48] <anonimasu> I've never heard about air turbine generators :)
[22:07:56] <les> ultrasonic Piezo reed vibrates in a supersonic air jet...
[22:08:02] <les> generates power
[22:08:14] <anonimasu> ok :)
[22:08:16] <les> shuold be challenging
[22:08:25] <anonimasu> nice
[22:08:27] <les> need to make about 6 watts
[22:08:33] <les> with a whistle
[22:08:38] <anonimasu> hm, that's not that much..
[22:08:39] <les> heh
[22:09:10] <anonimasu> or is it if we are talking about generating..
[22:09:35] <les> I remember dog whistle sounds could be concentrated with a parabolic dish to light little fires like a magnifying glass
[22:09:52] <anonimasu> hehe
[22:09:55] <anonimasu> that's cool
[22:10:12] <anonimasu> or rather violent.. :)
[22:10:15] <les> so 6 watts might not be a big deal
[22:10:24] <anonimasu> yeah if you can use somthing like that
[22:10:34] <les> trouble is I must spend some time in Chicago and Indy
[22:10:39] <les> long trip
[22:10:48] <les> but...
[22:11:13] <anonimasu> somthing like whistle > dish > to collector mounted on whistle
[22:11:17] <les> I charge $1000 a day for plant visits so I think I will survive
[22:11:17] <anonimasu> or somthing like that :)
[22:11:19] <les> heh
[22:11:22] <anonimasu> haha
[22:11:49] <anonimasu> cant really complain with that salary :)
[22:12:05] <les> not sure...might be a dirctly vibrating reed or a helmholtz resonator coupled to the piezo
[22:12:24] <les> but I won't think about it too much...
[22:12:37] <les> till the development contract is signed
[22:12:46] <anonimasu> yeah it's best that way
[22:13:01] <anonimasu> I get half manic when building stuff..
[22:13:16] <les> I need money when I am hurting my brain thinking and stuff
[22:13:23] <anonimasu> yeah
[22:13:54] <anonimasu> I think about the stuff I do until I forget other things that's less nescessary
[22:14:11] <les> hmm I was thinking if taking a month off in the spring
[22:14:15] <les> oh well
[22:14:20] <anonimasu> yeah you should :)
[22:14:26] <les> I need it
[22:14:47] <anonimasu> I was supposed to be in brazil last week and this week.. but my mother got ill so we couldnt go
[22:14:53] <les> The first spring flowers are blooming now
[22:15:03] <les> Ah Brazil...warm there
[22:15:08] <anonimasu> already?
[22:15:10] <anonimasu> nice
[22:15:16] <anonimasu> it's -27c outside over here
[22:15:25] <les> oh the first flowers often get snowed on
[22:15:34] <les> yikes
[22:15:53] <les> +15 here
[22:16:36] <les> It got that cold in Chicago
[22:16:40] <anonimasu> :)
[22:16:53] <les> but -27 is really cold
[22:17:12] <anonimasu> nah
[22:17:27] <les> time to frostbite for unprotected skin is a minute or two i'll bet
[22:17:32] <anonimasu> might be over there
[22:17:54] <anonimasu> I was expecting it to be around 40 somtime soon
[22:18:13] <les> The coldest we get here (up north) is in the -40 range
[22:18:22] <les> c or f...doesn't matter
[22:18:26] <anonimasu> yeah :)
[22:18:28] <anonimasu> hehe
[22:18:30] <les> the scales cross there
[22:18:52] <anonimasu> I like cold weather
[22:18:57] <les> The record for here in Georgia is -16f
[22:19:15] <anonimasu> how many c is that I never remember how to calc that
[22:19:29] <les> about -30 c?
[22:19:35] <anonimasu> ah ok
[22:20:00] <anonimasu> over -17 is pretty cold to be outside in
[22:20:31] <les> yes that is below zero on f scale I think
[22:20:52] <les> or around zero
[22:21:29] <les> Oh...one thing I found about grinding carbide...
[22:21:40] <les> the dust is not a big problem
[22:21:46] <anonimasu> ok?
[22:22:07] <les> Carbide is so dense it just falls right down next to the wheel
[22:22:28] <les> does not float around and get on stuff
[22:23:04] <les> I took some pictures...I will put them on the blog later
[22:23:12] <anonimasu> that's nice :)
[22:23:51] <les> Well, I must go to town and get groceries. I am totally out of everything
[22:23:58] <anonimasu> yeah do that
[22:24:00] <les> not even a cracker to eat
[22:24:06] <anonimasu> ouch that's really bad
[22:24:20] <les> just too busy
[22:24:25] <les> well
[22:24:31] <les> be back on later
[22:24:57] <anonimasu> yeah laters
[22:25:59] <anonimasu> I'll be heading for bed in a couple of minutes
[22:43:35] <robin_sz> meep?
[22:44:46] <anonimasu> * anonimasu goes *pong*
[22:45:08] <robin_sz> * robin_sz holds his nose
[22:46:29] <anonimasu> less drunk today?
[22:46:38] <robin_sz> yeah, but tired
[22:46:41] <robin_sz> very tired
[22:47:24] <robin_sz> hows your tree planter?
[22:47:35] <anonimasu> it's going nicely
[22:47:40] <anonimasu> got emc to run with my toolpaths and all..
[22:47:43] <anonimasu> works smoothly
[22:47:48] <anonimasu> but I get ferrors..
[22:47:48] <robin_sz> kewl
[22:47:59] <robin_sz> thats servos for you :)
[22:48:11] <anonimasu> oh, it's emc that think servos..
[22:48:20] <anonimasu> I have geckos so I'll never be more then +/- 128 counts
[22:48:41] <robin_sz> ah, yes thatweirdness where emc pretends has servos for steppers
[22:49:13] <robin_sz> need faster PC then
[22:49:36] <anonimasu> it's a 500mhz..
[22:49:38] <anonimasu> it should be plenty
[22:49:49] <anonimasu> shouldnt it?
[22:49:50] <robin_sz> true
[22:50:00] <robin_sz> I would have hoped so
[22:50:26] <robin_sz> what frq are you trying to get out of it?
[22:50:29] <robin_sz> pulse wise?
[22:50:33] <anonimasu> hm, dunno
[22:50:43] <anonimasu> 640pulses per mm
[22:51:00] <robin_sz> uh huh
[22:51:05] <anonimasu> err
[22:51:16] <robin_sz> x mm per second
[22:51:20] <anonimasu> the scale..
[22:51:33] <anonimasu> 16.6
[22:51:35] <anonimasu> 1000mm/min
[22:52:09] <robin_sz> so 10.6666 khz
[22:52:18] <anonimasu> yeah
[22:52:29] <anonimasu> that seems low somehow..
[22:52:34] <robin_sz> sounds not too bad for a 500mhz box
[22:52:47] <anonimasu> isnt that hz..
[22:52:50] <anonimasu> or if it khz?
[22:52:56] <gezr> howdy guys :)
[22:53:03] <robin_sz> I said khz
[22:53:10] <robin_sz> 10666 hz
[22:53:19] <anonimasu> um that's low..
[22:53:19] <anonimasu> :)
[22:53:22] <robin_sz> ho gezr
[22:53:27] <anonimasu> I ran 25000hz with turbocnc..
[22:53:35] <gezr> robin_sz : I think my clymer manual has an error
[22:53:57] <robin_sz> thats normal
[22:54:08] <gezr> isnt turbocnc pretty much set freq?
[22:54:21] <anonimasu> set freq?
[22:54:31] <gezr> as in it will achieve this rate under normal conditions?
[22:54:53] <anonimasu> no idea..
[22:55:12] <gezr> nevermind I was under the idea that it would do a higher rate for some reason
[22:55:22] <anonimasu> oh it can...
[22:55:27] <anonimasu> but I ran it at a p200mmz
[22:55:29] <anonimasu> mmx
[22:57:47] <anonimasu> :)
[23:01:21] <anonimasu> hmm, I guess I'll have to set the multiplier on the geckos even more
[23:02:01] <anonimasu> but that'd give me a stepsize of 0.0125mm..
[23:02:02] <anonimasu> :/
[23:02:05] <anonimasu> feels large
[23:52:36] <websys> robin - had any time to play?
[23:53:37] <robin_sz> hi bob
[23:53:40] <robin_sz> a little
[23:53:45] <robin_sz> but not in depth
[23:53:52] <websys> recovered from the wine?
[23:54:05] <robin_sz> yeah, just the swiss to deal with today
[23:55:25] <robin_sz> *supposed* to be going to geneva on friday ... but still beating software into shape
[23:55:45] <websys> ecch - good luck
[23:56:12] <websys> remember there's always one more bug
[23:58:23] <robin_sz> 1? hell .. I have plenty :)
[23:58:34] <websys> :-)
[23:58:56] <robin_sz> of course, the client has no spec, so its hard to deifne bugs and features ;)
[23:59:44] <websys> Ahh yes - the mind spec
[23:59:55] <robin_sz> sorta