#emc | Logs for 2005-01-24

[00:10:55] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/lights.jpg this guy LOVES his light.
[00:11:09] <A-L-P-H-A> that's 3 halogen lights.
[00:11:22] <A-L-P-H-A> oh yeah... I said I would photo my lathe...
[00:17:49] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.lloydleung.com/EMC/Lathe_photos
[00:22:31] <anonimasu> looks nice :9
[00:22:33] <anonimasu> :)
[00:25:10] <A-L-P-H-A> the splash guard closes, and I usually have coolant running into a buck ...
[00:38:56] <anonimasu> :)
[00:39:00] <anonimasu> goodnight
[00:45:45] <A-L-P-H-A> later
[02:01:09] <robin_sz> anyone left?
[02:01:31] <robin_sz> * robin_sz needs someone to test somethng with
[02:02:13] <robin_sz> windows PC and some audion ...
[02:03:15] <robin_sz> you know you want to :)
[02:03:57] <jmkasunich> or not
[02:04:33] <robin_sz> I suspect looking for people with 'doze on here is not a good place to start :)
[02:04:46] <jmkasunich> wth is audion anyway?
[02:04:52] <robin_sz> audio on
[02:04:56] <robin_sz> * robin_sz cant type
[02:05:06] <robin_sz> XP and speakers?
[02:05:16] <jmkasunich> actually, I do have a w95 box up right now, but no sound card
[02:05:27] <robin_sz> w95 ..
[02:05:28] <jmkasunich> none of my boxes have sound
[02:05:35] <robin_sz> id forgotten abou that
[02:05:42] <robin_sz> shame
[02:05:56] <robin_sz> yu could have heard me wittering on maybe :)
[02:06:10] <jmkasunich> that would have been cool
[02:06:22] <jmkasunich> hmm... my wife's puter is XP w/sound
[02:06:25] <jmkasunich> and she's out
[02:06:31] <robin_sz> indeed. :)
[02:06:54] <jmkasunich> no IRC there tho, and it's upstairs, with this box downstairs
[02:07:04] <jmkasunich> so unless it's really simple to do....
[02:07:34] <robin_sz> 1 url and an instruction :)
[02:07:55] <robin_sz> actually. it wont make much sense without irc
[02:08:00] <jmkasunich> INC EAX?
[02:08:16] <robin_sz> as i wont know when to flip it over to voice mode from 'on hold' music
[02:08:50] <robin_sz> it was the 'does the on hold music stop when I enter the conference' bit I wanted to test ...
[02:09:28] <jmkasunich> just as well... I should keep at what I'm doin
[02:09:34] <robin_sz> probaly true
[02:09:38] <robin_sz> snowy?
[02:10:16] <jmkasunich> nothing falling now, got 20cm+ since Fri night
[02:10:20] <robin_sz> actually, I could reboot the laptop into 'doze
[02:10:25] <robin_sz> wow
[02:10:27] <robin_sz> snowy
[02:10:46] <robin_sz> weve had zilch all year
[02:10:50] <robin_sz> zip
[02:10:52] <robin_sz> nada
[02:10:57] <jmkasunich> lucky
[02:11:04] <robin_sz> nah, I love it!
[02:11:10] <robin_sz> send yours
[02:11:12] <robin_sz> by ups
[02:11:19] <robin_sz> but insulate it well
[02:11:22] <jmkasunich> you love clearing driveways and such
[02:11:28] <robin_sz> nope ...
[02:11:34] <robin_sz> I just dont bother
[02:11:52] <robin_sz> i get out the 2stroke 125 with the knobbly tyres and play :)
[02:12:02] <robin_sz> work can go hang :)
[02:12:21] <jmkasunich> unfortunately I can't hang my work, nor the grocery shopping, etc, etc
[02:12:26] <robin_sz> right .. booting to 'doze
[02:12:31] <robin_sz> yeah, I know
[02:12:32] <robin_sz> night
[02:28:45] <A-L-P-H-A> I wonder what he needed.
[02:28:48] <A-L-P-H-A> I was cleaning my room more.
[02:29:05] <A-L-P-H-A> an endless, ENDLESS, E-N-D-L-E-S-S task.
[02:30:32] <asdfqwega> "Dear God.
[02:30:42] <asdfqwega> "I have yet another ruined motherboard
[02:31:14] <asdfqwega> "Could you find it in your grace to send to me a STABLE AMD motherboard?
[02:31:51] <asdfqwega> "If a certain place needs freeze over first, I don't mind."
[02:33:56] <asdfqwega> "I know I've fallen behind in my beatings of WinXP users,
[02:34:11] <asdfqwega> "But if my hardware would live, I'd have more time for...other things."
[02:36:14] <asdfqwega> I have THE ABSOLUTE WORST BASTARD LUCK with Via/AMD stuff
[02:37:25] <asdfqwega> Maybe I'll flog it on ebay like everybody else...
[02:37:51] <asdfqwega> And like everyone else, I'll take a picture of the motherboard, sitting bare on shag carpet
[02:38:26] <asdfqwega> I'll have some woolen sock and sweater in one corner of the picture, too
[02:38:56] <asdfqwega> Maybe my Van de Graaf and Tesla Coil, too - just in case they don't get the hint
[02:39:04] <jmkasunich> having a nice day, are we?
[02:39:38] <asdfqwega> Abso-doobly-froobly! [bounces]
[02:40:41] <asdfqwega> Another mobo for the recycle bin
[02:41:12] <asdfqwega> I need to track down some more i81x boards
[02:42:17] <asdfqwega> I've got just one left
[02:43:35] <asdfqwega> However, it's one I wasn't expecting to take out of it's case...I've actually glued the heatsink to the Celeron 400
[03:40:15] <birdmun> so im lookin for the BDI-Live_rc46.iso but the link at the sherline site is broken can i get any help here?
[03:40:36] <jmkasunich> I'm afraid I don't know anywhere else to download it
[03:40:46] <jmkasunich> the real expert on that is Paul C, but he
[03:41:01] <jmkasunich> he's out of touch for a couple weeks (moving, I think)
[03:41:58] <birdmun> ic
[03:42:07] <birdmun> thanks for the info
[03:43:02] <jmkasunich> sorry I couldn't be more helpfull
[03:43:11] <jmkasunich> most folks are here earlier in the day
[03:43:20] <jmkasunich> you could also post to the emc users mailing list
[03:44:18] <jmkasunich> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[03:44:23] <birdmun> i will give that a try thx
[04:31:14] <A-L-P-H-A> OMG... he's not moving to seattle is he?
[04:31:16] <A-L-P-H-A> poor soul.
[04:40:24] <jmkasunich> I'm not sure he's moving at all... but I thought Ray said something about a move
[05:41:32] <jmkasunich> time for bd\ed
[05:42:02] <jmkasunich> time for bed (can't spell)
[06:06:09] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.lloydleung.com/EMC/Axis-spindle_assembled - the Axis is almost complete... just need the bracket now.
[08:13:36] <CIA-9> 03zwisk 07halrefactor-0-1 * 10emc2/src/hal/ (19 files in 3 dirs):
[08:13:36] <CIA-9> Massive refactoring of hal into hal_refactor.[hc]
[08:13:36] <CIA-9> Lots and lots of warnings
[08:13:36] <CIA-9> start of an ioctl interface to hal (use mknod /dev/hal char 251 0)
[08:13:36] <CIA-9> halcmd is starting to come back together
[08:13:36] <CIA-9> new 'newpart' hal command
[08:33:43] <alex_joni> zwisk: around?
[09:19:40] <anonimasu> * anonimasu yawnsz
[09:19:56] <alex_joni> me agrees as usual
[09:20:01] <alex_joni> * alex_joni agrees as usual
[09:20:04] <anonimasu> :)
[09:20:23] <alex_joni> but.. I got coke-support today
[09:20:25] <alex_joni> ;)
[09:20:28] <anonimasu> haha
[09:20:32] <anonimasu> I need a pepsi.
[09:20:36] <anonimasu> I've already had some coke..
[09:20:38] <alex_joni> that makes it a little bit easier
[09:20:49] <anonimasu> had some left from yesterday in the fridge
[09:20:54] <alex_joni> _never_ mix those
[09:21:37] <alex_joni> it might get some weird side-effects
[09:21:38] <alex_joni> ;)
[09:21:52] <anonimasu> haha
[09:21:52] <anonimasu> yeah
[09:21:52] <anonimasu> probably
[09:22:06] <alex_joni> I looked at classicladder
[09:22:09] <alex_joni> looks pretty nice
[09:22:21] <alex_joni> to connect that to hal .. would be something
[09:22:27] <anonimasu> :)
[09:22:32] <anonimasu> what's classicladder?
[09:22:51] <alex_joni> http://membres.lycos.fr/mavati/classicladder/
[09:22:58] <alex_joni> it's a PLC-controller
[09:23:01] <alex_joni> in software
[09:23:05] <anonimasu> ah thanks
[09:23:20] <alex_joni> we plan to integrate that into emc2
[09:23:28] <anonimasu> * anonimasu is writing a serial message parsing interface for the plc today
[09:23:29] <alex_joni> so you can write your PLC software
[09:23:38] <alex_joni> regarding HAL-pins
[09:23:44] <anonimasu> nice
[09:23:55] <alex_joni> yeah
[09:24:15] <anonimasu> is there any way to get serial messages/NML messagers over the serial prot ?
[09:24:18] <anonimasu> get/send ?
[09:24:25] <alex_joni> sure
[09:24:32] <alex_joni> use a SLIP interface
[09:24:33] <alex_joni> ;)
[09:24:36] <anonimasu> yay! ^_^
[09:24:42] <alex_joni> kidding...
[09:24:54] <alex_joni> you would need a SLIP device on the other end aswell
[09:25:01] <alex_joni> and you probably don't have one
[09:25:25] <anonimasu> write?
[09:25:26] <alex_joni> on the other hand...
[09:25:37] <alex_joni> I don't think you really need NML messages on serial
[09:25:52] <anonimasu> hm, thinking about using the plc as interface at the machine..
[09:25:53] <alex_joni> SLIP presumes a TCP/IP stack
[09:26:03] <alex_joni> don't think you want to code that
[09:26:21] <anonimasu> it has a panel.. with numeric keys..
[09:27:41] <anonimasu> and 16 ins and outs... ;)
[09:28:00] <alex_joni> I'd write a HAL-driver for it
[09:28:06] <alex_joni> non-rt
[09:28:23] <alex_joni> hal-module connects per serial (your protocol) to the PLC
[09:28:30] <anonimasu> yep
[09:28:34] <anonimasu> hm, I need to get into hal..
[09:28:35] <alex_joni> and exports all 16 in/out pins, and whatever more pins to HAL
[09:28:39] <alex_joni> not that hard
[09:28:46] <alex_joni> I could help you
[09:28:57] <anonimasu> that'd be great :)
[09:29:09] <alex_joni> but only a bit later
[09:29:26] <alex_joni> you could look at some software first ;)
[09:29:28] <anonimasu> yeah I need my machine running first
[09:29:53] <alex_joni> last thing I did with HAL is ioControl.c (emc2/src/emc/iotask/ioControl.c)
[09:31:18] <anonimasu> nice
[09:37:05] <anonimasu> :)
[09:37:10] <anonimasu> I looked at it right now and it looks nice
[09:38:10] <alex_joni> the part you need for HAL is pretty simple
[09:38:14] <alex_joni> for user-space
[09:38:27] <alex_joni> for real-time it's a bit more complicated, but not much
[09:38:40] <anonimasu> hm, I need to write a realtime part too... I think
[09:38:47] <anonimasu> if I am going to do feed compensation..
[09:38:50] <anonimasu> but that's a later problem
[09:38:57] <anonimasu> I think it'll be too slow to do it non realtime..
[09:39:10] <alex_joni> problem will be accessing the serial port in RT
[09:39:21] <alex_joni> but RTAI has some support for that
[09:39:36] <anonimasu> hm I could use a pin on the paralell port..
[09:39:51] <alex_joni> and implement a serial interface on that?
[09:39:59] <alex_joni> or use the pin for adjustment?
[09:40:07] <anonimasu> use the pin for adjustment..
[09:40:32] <alex_joni> think you need more than one pin for adjustment
[09:40:39] <anonimasu> I could send data through 2 pins..
[09:40:45] <anonimasu> one clock and one data..
[09:40:48] <alex_joni> the PLC needs to tell you more than 'wait'
[09:40:54] <alex_joni> that's a PITA
[09:41:09] <alex_joni> there is rt_com (serial driver under RTAI)
[09:41:13] <alex_joni> I'd go with that
[09:41:16] <alex_joni> (later)
[09:41:24] <anonimasu> the algorithm to do it isnt that extreme..
[09:41:50] <alex_joni> first.. a userspace program to connect to the PLC (using /dev/ttySx)
[09:42:05] <alex_joni> and some comm protocol (defined by you)
[09:42:38] <anonimasu> yep
[09:43:01] <alex_joni> I'd define smthg like: #define set_output_1 0x01
[09:43:11] <alex_joni> #define unset_output_1 0x02
[09:43:13] <alex_joni> etc.
[09:43:28] <alex_joni> or write(set_output_1, value)
[09:43:42] <alex_joni> you don't have so many outputs/inputs
[09:44:00] <alex_joni> you could code them all up, (takes less time for comm)
[09:44:54] <anonimasu> yep
[09:45:20] <alex_joni> if you wanna go for it... I'm ok to help
[09:46:28] <anonimasu> yeah ofcourse I want to, it's a easy way to get 24V ~2A out
[09:46:29] <anonimasu> :)
[09:46:54] <anonimasu> and a keypad at the machine
[09:47:13] <alex_joni> I'd start with defining a .h file
[09:47:19] <alex_joni> with the communication protocol
[09:47:32] <alex_joni> and you can use that for including in your plc-software
[09:47:36] <alex_joni> and in the hal-component
[09:47:46] <anonimasu> yeah
[09:48:26] <anonimasu> I'll have a pretty nice protocol after today.. although it'll need some modification to suit being used like that
[09:48:51] <alex_joni> it usually gets modified a lot ;)
[09:48:57] <alex_joni> during testing ;)
[09:49:27] <anonimasu> yeah :)
[09:49:54] <anonimasu> writing stuff for running diagnostics and stuff for the machines we build..
[09:53:03] <anonimasu> lol
[09:53:17] <anonimasu> the bandwidth usage of one of the servers are too high to allow my ssh connection
[09:53:24] <alex_joni> gee
[09:53:39] <anonimasu> ah finally.
[09:54:01] <anonimasu> need to load the traffic shaper again..
[09:54:53] <anonimasu> ah now..
[09:56:47] <alex_joni> what shaper do you use?
[09:56:55] <anonimasu> openbsd + altq
[09:57:04] <alex_joni> I see..
[09:57:08] <alex_joni> * alex_joni uses linux
[09:57:20] <alex_joni> no shaping yet (wasn't needed)
[09:57:25] <anonimasu> :)
[09:57:37] <anonimasu> it's the server for the place where I usually to lan/slack at..
[09:57:47] <alex_joni> but I have some mrtg for info
[09:57:59] <alex_joni>
[09:58:05] <anonimasu> http://www.bojn.net/mrtg/
[09:58:25] <anonimasu> nice
[09:58:55] <alex_joni> ditto
[09:58:56] <alex_joni> ;)
[09:59:15] <anonimasu> hehe :)
[09:59:19] <anonimasu> heavy usage ;)
[09:59:32] <alex_joni> only mrtg? or rrdtools too?
[09:59:57] <anonimasu> only mrtg..
[10:00:02] <anonimasu> just the netspeed's interesting :)
[10:00:03] <alex_joni> same here
[10:00:12] <alex_joni> but mrtg is pretty limited
[10:00:30] <alex_joni> I plan (since last summer:) to change to rrdtools
[10:00:40] <alex_joni> still didn't take the time
[10:00:44] <anonimasu> I havent used that
[10:00:45] <anonimasu> :)
[10:00:46] <anonimasu> gtg..
[10:00:48] <anonimasu> lunch
[10:00:51] <anonimasu> laters
[10:00:58] <alex_joni> later
[17:52:04] <anonimasu> * anonimasu yawns
[18:40:06] <anonimasu> hello
[18:45:22] <A-L-P-H-A> hi
[18:45:48] <A-L-P-H-A> I've been up for 15 minutes, and I've already placed and order for bolts and setscrews.
[18:48:35] <anonimasu> :)
[18:48:36] <anonimasu> nice
[18:48:41] <anonimasu> * anonimasu is messing with RTAI
[18:48:58] <robin_sz> * robin_sz passes anonimasu some rubber gloves
[18:49:09] <anonimasu> thanks
[18:49:14] <anonimasu> I get errors when I load the modules
[18:49:15] <anonimasu> :/
[18:49:23] <robin_sz> 2.6 kernel?
[18:49:27] <anonimasu> 2.4
[18:49:29] <anonimasu> 2.4.21
[18:49:35] <robin_sz> * robin_sz shrugs
[18:49:55] <anonimasu> I suck dont I?
[18:49:58] <anonimasu> ^_^
[18:50:25] <anonimasu> lots of unresolved symbols..
[18:50:30] <anonimasu> might be because my adeos if r16
[18:50:40] <anonimasu> I have no idea what others are running
[18:51:04] <robin_sz> I tend towards packages these days
[18:51:16] <robin_sz> debiian kernel-iamge
[18:51:25] <robin_sz> or redhat kernel.rpms
[18:51:56] <anonimasu> heh
[18:52:02] <robin_sz> cant be arsed with all that patching etc. especially as it seems to rarely work from one user to the next
[18:52:23] <anonimasu> * anonimasu knows
[18:52:26] <anonimasu> although it should work..
[18:52:43] <robin_sz> IMHO, thats one of the things holding EMC back,
[18:52:57] <anonimasu> if this breaks I am going to pry this shit into my kernel with force.
[18:53:28] <anonimasu> the older rtai refused to even boot :)
[18:54:14] <anonimasu> yeah deb's are easy..
[18:54:20] <robin_sz> I note there is an 'rtai' package for debian Sarge
[18:54:28] <anonimasu> ye�
[18:54:56] <anonimasu> I am downgrading from 2.6..
[18:54:59] <robin_sz> does it include a kernel?
[18:55:05] <anonimasu> to 2.4 to be able to compile emc2..
[18:55:16] <robin_sz> goota go.
[18:55:32] <anonimasu> ok
[18:56:06] <paul_C> anonimasu: Got a 2.4 rtai kernel package
[18:56:14] <anonimasu> :)
[18:56:20] <anonimasu> I think it'll work now
[18:56:25] <paul_C> 2.4.27-adeos
[18:57:09] <anonimasu> paul_c: :)
[18:57:48] <anonimasu> feel like sharing it?
[18:58:23] <anonimasu> this is strange.
[18:58:32] <anonimasu> how can I get unresolved symbols..
[18:58:39] <paul_C> just checking to see if it is on the server
[18:59:57] <anonimasu> ok
[19:00:51] <paul_C> kernel-image-2.4.27-adeos is on the server...
[19:01:01] <anonimasu> ok
[19:01:02] <anonimasu> where's that?
[19:01:09] <paul_C> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bdi-emc/debian/
[19:01:19] <paul_C> no rtai package though...
[19:01:31] <anonimasu> ah got that installed ;) I think
[19:02:21] <anonimasu> I am just going to try this a bit more..
[19:02:25] <anonimasu> I dont feel like failing
[19:02:44] <anonimasu> I should just have to patch my kernel with adeos.. and install rtai..
[19:02:50] <anonimasu> and it's supposed to work.. :)
[19:03:08] <anonimasu> I've gotten emc to compile..
[19:03:14] <anonimasu> but it's when loading the module when running it fails..
[19:03:41] <anonimasu> but I have a hint.. on what the error might be
[19:03:56] <anonimasu> I forgot to turn on Xenomai VM support.. or somthing :)
[19:05:54] <anonimasu> nope.
[19:05:56] <anonimasu> :(
[19:06:58] <anonimasu> I'll just grab the image then..
[19:10:37] <paul_C> I need to negotiate some space on a fast server...
[19:10:52] <paul_C> The 55Megs on the homepage is not enough.
[19:11:40] <alex_joni> greetings
[19:11:54] <alex_joni> hey paul_C ;)
[19:13:59] <A-L-P-H-A> paul_C, may I suggest: www.textdrive.com I use them... and they have very good technical support.
[19:16:52] <alex_joni> an0n: are you around?
[19:19:56] <anonimasu> yeah
[19:20:22] <anonimasu> alex_joni: RTAI decided to be a pain.. so I am grabbing the image now..
[19:20:31] <anonimasu> paul_c: what's the name of that package?
[19:20:42] <anonimasu> err.. nm
[19:20:52] <alex_joni> anon: sorry to hear that ;)
[19:21:02] <alex_joni> it all should be a pleasant experience...
[19:21:05] <anonimasu> lol
[19:21:08] <alex_joni> but mostly it's not
[19:21:09] <alex_joni> :D
[19:21:18] <anonimasu> it's whining about unresolved symbols..
[19:21:27] <anonimasu> when loading rtai.o
[19:21:27] <anonimasu> :)
[19:21:48] <alex_joni> what sysmbols?
[19:22:02] <anonimasu> all kinds of adeos stuff..
[19:22:09] <alex_joni> bummer
[19:22:12] <anonimasu> yeah..
[19:22:19] <anonimasu> but my adeos might be too new
[19:22:29] <anonimasu> what version do you run?
[19:22:37] <alex_joni> 3.0r4
[19:22:46] <anonimasu> I tried 3.1
[19:22:51] <anonimasu> of rtai..
[19:23:05] <alex_joni> 3.1. should work fine
[19:23:12] <anonimasu> but I mean of adeos..
[19:23:17] <alex_joni> * alex_joni remembers compiling his rtai a few dozen times
[19:23:19] <alex_joni> :P
[19:23:29] <anonimasu> adeos-linux-2.4.21-i386-r16.patch
[19:23:33] <anonimasu> is that too new?
[19:23:41] <alex_joni> nope
[19:23:44] <alex_joni> should be ok
[19:24:25] <anonimasu> strange..
[19:24:35] <anonimasu> rtai compiled flawlessly
[19:24:49] <alex_joni> try to make tests
[19:24:53] <alex_joni> and test it out
[19:25:12] <alex_joni> maybe your booted kernel does not contain all symbols needed
[19:25:20] <anonimasu> hm, that might be the case..
[19:25:26] <anonimasu> I removed everything I wouldnt need ;)
[19:25:53] <paul_C> what does "depmod -ae" show ?
[19:26:00] <alex_joni> that's ok once you have a working system ;)
[19:26:13] <anonimasu> lol, I dont need USB storage support :D
[19:26:28] <anonimasu> hold on need to reboot..
[19:26:33] <alex_joni> I make everything modules (what I don't need)
[19:30:07] <anonimasu> now lets see..
[19:34:24] <anonimasu> yeah. I am stupid :)
[19:35:28] <anonimasu> I'll be back in a bit..
[19:35:32] <anonimasu> going to go to the kiosk
[19:35:34] <anonimasu> :)
[19:35:42] <anonimasu> while this compiles..
[19:36:35] <anonimasu> I think I forgot APIC support...
[19:36:45] <anonimasu> but somehow I feel like I enabled it earlier..
[19:37:03] <anonimasu> 80
[19:37:08] <anonimasu> io_apic_irqs
[19:37:11] <anonimasu> irq_vector
[19:37:16] <anonimasu> using_apic_timer
[19:37:23] <anonimasu> was the unresolved symbols at the top..
[19:37:31] <anonimasu> the other errors is because rtai wouldnt load
[19:42:52] <alex_joni> * alex_joni started looking at classicladder
[20:09:47] <A-L-P-H-A> Hey, in theory, it's possible to get there are multiple strings that can have the same MD5 hash right?
[20:11:33] <alex_joni> some very long strings
[20:13:19] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah... cool. I thought so... it's a HASH table only... :)
[20:14:19] <alex_joni> If I remember it correctly you might even get some multiple unix passwords which match
[20:22:35] <A-L-P-H-A> I thought linux used a salt system.
[20:22:38] <A-L-P-H-A> not md5 hashes.
[20:23:37] <jepler> most modern linux use a "md5-based algorithm"---I'm not sure of the details
[20:23:56] <jepler> see the "GNU extension" section of the crypt(3) manpage
[20:24:58] <jepler> http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix99/provos/provos_html/node10.html
[20:39:17] <anonimasu> hi
[20:39:46] <anonimasu> sys_fdatasync
[20:39:48] <anonimasu> sys_read
[20:39:50] <anonimasu> sys_pread
[20:39:53] <anonimasu> sys_write
[20:39:55] <anonimasu> sys_open
[20:39:58] <anonimasu> sys_pwrite
[20:40:05] <anonimasu> sys_fsync
[20:40:10] <anonimasu> is what depmod tells me..
[20:40:17] <anonimasu> and adeos_virtualize_irq
[21:00:38] <alex_joni> night guys
[21:04:24] <anonimasu> bleh..
[21:04:26] <anonimasu> later..
[21:04:30] <anonimasu> yeah night alex
[22:14:40] <gezr> good day
[22:24:21] <A-L-P-H-A> hey hey.
[22:26:32] <gezr> anything interesting going on today?
[22:32:19] <gezr> anonimasu : did you get things working?
[22:35:31] <A-L-P-H-A> nope.
[22:35:38] <A-L-P-H-A> I reorganzied my photos on my gallery. :)
[22:35:44] <A-L-P-H-A> but that was last night. but after you left. :)
[22:35:52] <A-L-P-H-A> showed a photo or two of my lathe.
[22:38:25] <gezr> oh yeah?
[22:39:02] <A-L-P-H-A> yeah. :)
[22:39:09] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.lloydleung.com/EMC
[22:39:15] <A-L-P-H-A> I should really rename EMC to Gallery
[22:39:18] <A-L-P-H-A> but oh well. :)
[22:41:41] <gezr> cool looking
[22:41:49] <gezr> nice variac :)
[22:42:05] <A-L-P-H-A> the rheostat?
[22:42:08] <gezr> super cool lathe
[22:42:13] <gezr> yeah
[22:42:25] <gezr> how man amp is she?
[22:42:27] <gezr> many
[22:42:30] <A-L-P-H-A> the tailstock isn't there... but it's on my chair at the time.
[22:42:47] <A-L-P-H-A> the rheostat... that I have no clue... the motor is an 1hp DC Servo.
[22:43:58] <gezr> those things are about 100 bucks, grat to have, I would like to have one some day
[22:44:05] <gezr> for a part of a nice test bench
[22:46:12] <A-L-P-H-A> gezr, the rheostat was originally on the lathe already... from someone else doing the convertion. I love it to control the speeds.
[22:47:16] <gezr> oh cool, I take it its got a fuse some where too right?
[22:47:54] <anonimasu> gezr: no
[22:48:01] <A-L-P-H-A> umm... I don't know. Hopefully somewhere. :) But I doubt it. The breaker box is in the next room.
[22:48:12] <anonimasu> gezr: it wouldnt work with adeos.. :/
[22:48:18] <anonimasu> gezr: it says that I am missing stuff..
[22:48:35] <gezr> anonimasu : I had to move some .o files to the lib/modules/blah directory
[22:48:45] <anonimasu> ah that might be the problem
[22:48:54] <gezr> anonimasu : I dont have that box booted, but I did have to manually install the modules
[22:49:04] <anonimasu> ok, it finds rtai.o atleast..
[22:49:09] <gezr> i kept getting all sorts of depmod errors and the likes
[22:49:13] <anonimasu> yeah
[22:49:16] <anonimasu> that's what I am getting
[22:49:23] <anonimasu> I'll boot the box and check..
[22:49:28] <gezr> anonimasu : okay, cool
[22:50:01] <gezr> A-L-P-H-A : put a fuse on it, try to match the rehostats rating, that way you save your rheostat
[22:50:19] <A-L-P-H-A> I'll take a look and see if there is a fuse.
[22:50:45] <gezr> A-L-P-H-A : I have a friend with a few of them and he insists on protecting his, he almos had a fit when we were using it to do some edm stuff once
[22:51:41] <A-L-P-H-A> 10 amps.
[22:51:50] <A-L-P-H-A> the motor is 10 amps as well.
[22:51:55] <gezr> and your breaker is probably 20amp
[22:52:18] <gezr> so get you a 15amp or so fuse maybe even a 12, or a 10 and see what happens
[22:52:33] <gezr> blow the fuse, save the rheostat and the motor :)
[22:52:52] <gezr> just something to think about thats all
[22:52:58] <A-L-P-H-A> I'll go buy them tomorrow, and put it inline on the +lead right after the bridge rectifier.
[22:53:11] <anonimasu> :)
[22:53:20] <A-L-P-H-A> after not wearing a watch for a few months, wearing a watch again feels weird.
[22:54:18] <anonimasu> hm, i broke the kernel the last reboot :)
[22:55:01] <gezr> A-L-P-H-A : I hope I didnt come across offensive about your stuff, I just had a strange feeling that it was unprotected
[22:55:47] <gezr> you probably didnt even think about it, I probably wouldnt have either till I let the smoke out, I have a way of stalling motors
[22:56:35] <anonimasu> kamikaze turning
[22:57:25] <anonimasu> ^_^
[22:57:41] <anonimasu> I forgot ext3 support.
[22:57:42] <A-L-P-H-A> gezr, no I didn't take any offense. [was it offensive?]
[22:57:51] <A-L-P-H-A> I didn't even remotely think it was offensive. :)
[22:57:57] <anonimasu> gee.. somone should just kill me today
[22:58:05] <anonimasu> I've had a bad-code day today :)
[22:59:13] <anonimasu> nothing works
[23:01:16] <gezr> A-L-P-H-A : no, its cool
[23:01:24] <gezr> anonimasu : just hack away at it
[23:01:27] <gezr> dinner time :)
[23:01:33] <gezr> ill be back in a bit
[23:01:36] <anonimasu> ok
[23:17:48] <gezr> back
[23:24:01] <anonimasu> wb
[23:24:04] <anonimasu> now lets see my error :)
[23:25:18] <anonimasu> hm strange..
[23:27:48] <gezr> ?
[23:28:13] <anonimasu> adeos seems broken
[23:28:30] <anonimasu> should I have it as a module or static?
[23:30:25] <gezr> im not sure
[23:31:52] <anonimasu> :/
[23:31:55] <anonimasu> this is weird..
[23:32:28] <A-L-P-H-A> wow... I think I should shrink some of my images... it's taking up 47 megs on the server. :)
[23:35:09] <anonimasu> hm..
[23:35:15] <anonimasu> maybe I'll try with a newer kernel.
[23:39:53] <anonimasu> hm..
[23:40:31] <anonimasu> The new Kilauea (and presumably the just released 3.0r3) hal12 patches
[23:40:31] <anonimasu> only export the "adeos_virtualize_irq_from" symbol, while the RTAI
[23:40:32] <anonimasu> schedulers still use adeos_virtualize_irq.
[23:45:13] <anonimasu> well.. how nice!.
[23:45:21] <anonimasu> * anonimasu sighs
[23:46:24] <anonimasu> I hate when developers break deps..
[23:46:33] <anonimasu> or changes specs..
[23:57:50] <anonimasu> hm..
[23:57:53] <anonimasu> I'll compile 3.0 then