#emc | Logs for 2004-12-06

[00:00:55] <paul_c> dang... anaconda.condig needs some additional work.
[00:02:01] <robin_sz> annaconda ... vaguely remmeberthat
[00:02:31] <robin_sz> I vaguely remember seeing it crash during RH installs anyway :)
[00:32:21] <asdfqwega> A quick question for cradek or jepler: How demanding is AXIS as a system load? The box's I have available to try it on are Duron 600/Celeron 400, with Nvidia/TNT cards
[00:34:29] <asdfqwega> robin_sz: I thought 'digimatic' calipers used a magnetic scale with a vernier method
[00:35:20] <paul_c> Some are capacative, others inductive, and a few magnetic.
[00:35:41] <asdfqwega> As a machinist, I hate 'em - they lose position, same goes for micrometers
[00:36:05] <asdfqwega> They do have a use around abravisive contamination
[00:36:17] <asdfqwega> er, abrasive
[00:36:49] <asdfqwega> A friend uses one, making pool queues - super micro-fine wood dust
[00:38:07] <asdfqwega> But they're not good for production use - you never know when they're going to 'slip', so you have to calibrate and set the zero often
[00:39:45] <asdfqwega> Back to cleaning [sigh]...cables and tools and debris, oh my
[00:42:44] <robin_sz> * robin_sz pays attention again
[00:43:05] <robin_sz> my christmas project is to pull everything out of the workshop into the yard
[00:43:09] <robin_sz> and then put it back
[00:43:14] <robin_sz> in some sort of useful order
[00:43:19] <robin_sz> wait ...
[00:43:39] <robin_sz> my christmas project is to put a new cylinder gasket in the fork truck ... and then ...
[00:43:56] <robin_sz> sodding hting uses more oil and water than propane
[01:28:36] <CIA-11> 03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/comps.xml: File changed. New revision:1.14
[01:44:38] <paul_c> * paul_c wonders if jmkasunich is still awake...
[02:55:54] <jepler> asdfqwega: These are the machines Chris or I have been developing AXIS on: 1.5GHz Pentium M, 2.8GHz Pentium4, "2400+" AMD Athlon. If you have accelerated OpenGL, duron 600 and celeron 400 should do OK, but not be silky smooth.
[02:56:37] <jepler> asdfqwega: I know cradek has actually tried axis on a a <400MHz Pentium II laptop with no 3d accel, and it runs but not well
[03:00:40] <jepler> asdfqwega: but opengl accel should make a big difference
[11:33:35] <alex_joni> hello
[11:35:53] <paul_c> Morning alex_joni
[11:36:04] <alex_joni> morning paul_C
[11:36:26] <alex_joni> difficult to wake up :-)
[11:43:03] <paul_c> You disappeared a fraction too early last night
[11:43:54] <paul_c> was going to let you download the beta test...
[11:49:23] <alex_joni> but now you changed your mind ;)
[11:49:32] <alex_joni> last night I was at home.. on dial-up
[11:49:38] <alex_joni> now I could do that...
[11:52:23] <paul_c> daytime will knock my bandwidth.
[11:53:41] <alex_joni> ok.. I can cron the dl
[11:55:19] <paul_c> I found a couple of "interesting" issues that need to be fixed first.
[11:56:32] <alex_joni> ok... I can wait
[11:56:48] <alex_joni> btw, before I forget.. I'll go away on Wednesday
[11:57:08] <alex_joni> going on a business trip to germany, I'll be back next week
[11:57:17] <alex_joni> so I guess I'll miss the chat on sunday
[11:58:05] <CIA-11> 03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/isolinux.cfg: File changed. New revision:1.2
[12:35:14] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is right back
[12:43:13] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is back
[12:43:38] <alex_joni> I had a very brief chat with zwisk last night
[12:47:38] <paul_c> 'bout install targets ?
[12:48:28] <alex_joni> yeah... a little, but he didn't have much time :(
[12:48:33] <alex_joni> maybe the next time
[12:48:44] <alex_joni> he was complaining about no thaving a working rtai.rpm
[12:49:28] <alex_joni> he was complaining about not having a working rtai.rpm
[12:50:21] <paul_c> I had the same problem with rtlinux for bdi-2.xx
[12:50:51] <paul_c> and to a lesser extent, with the rtai deb package.
[12:51:08] <alex_joni> I can imagine
[12:54:30] <paul_c> There isn't much I can do to help zwisk on that front.... It is something he'll have to work on.
[12:56:25] <alex_joni> I know..
[12:56:31] <paul_c> arrgg... Got rtai.spec from the TNG somewhere.... along with a tweaked kernel spec.
[12:58:49] <paul_c> back in a bit.
[13:03:01] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is gone for today
[13:30:50] <paul_c> cd
[13:37:09] <Timbo> what's the second worst thing you can type on irc?
[13:37:11] <Timbo> su
[14:12:41] <jepler> morning guys
[14:15:42] <paul_c> Morning jepler
[14:16:33] <paul_c> Doesn't look like axis will run with the 2.6.9 build of EMC.
[14:16:46] <cradek> hello
[14:16:57] <cradek> can you give more details?
[14:17:21] <paul_c> cradek: Thanks for correcting my error in the abort bug fix in emc2
[14:17:32] <cradek> no problem
[14:17:50] <paul_c> damned maze of switch statements...
[14:17:51] <cradek> I tested it, and I still had the bug
[14:17:59] <cradek> I would have never noticed it by looking at the patch
[14:18:03] <cradek> yeah it's nasty in there
[14:18:35] <jepler> what, did the patch helpfully apply to the wrong switch statement entirely?
[14:18:44] <paul_c> As soon as I looked at the full source file, I saw the error in patching.
[14:18:50] <cradek> jepler: it was a meat-patch
[14:18:55] <cradek> jepler: (I think)
[14:47:09] <cradek> paul_c: give me more information about why axis isn't working for BDI
[14:49:02] <paul_c> This build uses libnml from emc2 with the directory layout of emc1
[14:49:39] <cradek> that sounds strange but I don't see it as a big problem
[14:50:48] <paul_c> agreed, it isn't a problem.
[14:51:14] <cradek> so what problem are you having with axis?
[14:52:01] <paul_c> Haven't tried to run it yet, jist a quick look at the code indicated that there would be problems.
[14:52:15] <cradek> like what?
[14:52:59] <paul_c> headers and libs for the C stuff
[14:53:37] <cradek> it just takes some changes to setup.py to make it build with emc2 only
[14:54:25] <cradek> yes, the names of the directories and libs are a little different, but that's no problem
[14:55:27] <paul_c> yup. minor problem.
[14:55:39] <cradek> so is there anything else?
[14:55:43] <cradek> I'll help you fix it however I can
[14:56:03] <cradek> I think it's important for it to work on this BDI, otherwise many people won't be able to try it
[14:56:16] <paul_c> nope - Just got to get emc to compile on the main dev. box
[14:58:17] <paul_c> Once I get this to compile, I'll have a go at axis.
[14:58:38] <cradek> ok
[14:58:56] <cradek> I'll be here until at least 2200UTC
[15:02:01] <paul_c> I'll probably be around till much later than that.
[15:18:55] <les> cradek: would you happen to have a screenshot of AXIS?
[15:20:30] <cradek> http://axis.unpy.net
[15:20:44] <cradek> lots of info about it there
[16:10:48] <jepler> les: screenshots in the "about" link
[16:33:27] <jepler> paul_c: I'll try to be around too
[16:35:10] <paul_c> resolved the compile errors, now building another CD ready to try an install.
[17:12:38] <les> wow the axis screenshots look great...I will want to try this out for sure
[17:16:19] <les> hope those old computers have enough system resources left to run it...
[17:23:31] <cradek> les: thanks
[17:26:07] <les> yw chris...great job
[17:27:16] <cradek> let me know if you have trouble building or installing it
[17:27:37] <cradek> there are a couple fixes already, mostly for older systems, described on the web page
[17:28:16] <les> I will just follow the instructions....I assume I do not have to rebuild emc?
[17:29:32] <cradek> you do need a built emc source tree
[17:30:44] <les> have that...several in fact...I keep old versions intact when making a change
[17:32:47] <les> often when I try to do individual makes I get garbage (don't know enough about gcc I guess) so I just build the whole thing
[17:33:30] <cradek> les: it's probably the build system, not you, but a full build doesn't take long
[17:34:44] <les> right..it's real quick so no problems
[18:49:52] <les> hmm got an email from another happy customer with his emc carved teak sign
[18:51:40] <les> looks like many thousands of customers will end up with products made with emc
[18:52:09] <les> I wonder if anyone else is using the program for production?
[19:17:31] <cradek> who was making those TPS sensors?
[20:40:00] <les> sorry went to the shop
[20:40:21] <les> heh the TPS was me too...
[20:41:53] <les> but that was just all the design protos...we have cut injection molds now
[21:57:50] <paul_c> Wahooo....
[22:00:26] <paul_c> axis is running on 2.6.9
[22:00:34] <cradek> YAY!!
[22:00:47] <paul_c> * paul_c is feeling smug
[22:01:01] <paul_c> hacked python al by myself ;)
[22:01:10] <cradek> setup.py?
[22:01:16] <paul_c> yup
[22:01:16] <asdfqwega> Yoing!
[22:01:17] <cradek> congrats
[22:01:39] <asdfqwega> Half a cheer for Paul - Hip! Hip! Hoo-
[22:01:40] <cradek> if you don't want it to be the default, let's put a commented out DISPLAY=axis in the ini
[22:02:04] <cradek> it will be great if people can try it easily
[22:02:20] <paul_c> Will add an entry in the run script for axis so that we don't have to symlink it
[22:02:36] <cradek> ok, cool
[22:03:08] <paul_c> Now how do we create a deb (with the required deps) ?
[22:03:25] <cradek> I don't know, jeff did the first one
[22:03:51] <asdfqwega> I plan on trying AXIS before the week is out - been doing to much computer fiddling of late
[22:04:17] <cradek> if you have a modern OS install it's really easy
[22:04:29] <cradek> if you have to build all the python stuff from source, not so easy
[22:04:39] <paul_c> a suggestion for the build instructions
[22:04:41] <asdfqwega> I'm using the Live rc46 - it should be easy enough
[22:04:52] <cradek> asdfqwega: there's a binary package on the web site
[22:04:59] <asdfqwega> Cool
[22:05:03] <cradek> paul_c: shoot
[22:05:21] <paul_c> aptget python-dev, xlibmesa-gl-dev, & xlibmesa-glu-dev
[22:05:45] <cradek> jeff had xlibmesa-dev
[22:05:47] <cradek> is that wrong?
[22:05:54] <alex_joni> g'evening
[22:05:57] <cradek> alex_joni: hello
[22:06:25] <alex_joni> got the mail to the list?
[22:06:35] <cradek> about axis? yes
[22:06:42] <cradek> glad to hear you like it so far
[22:06:48] <alex_joni> ;)
[22:07:22] <paul_c> OK... xlibmesa-dev is a meta package for gl & glu dev
[22:07:38] <alex_joni> hi paul
[22:07:40] <cradek> aha
[22:07:46] <paul_c> Yo alex_joni
[22:07:49] <cradek> paul_c: ok, I'll leave it as the simpler one then
[22:08:20] <cradek> paul_c: will this be called BDI-3?
[22:08:46] <paul_c> Dragging axis across the screens, I have noticed it doesn't redraw on screens 2 & 3
[22:09:31] <cradek> we'll look at that as soon as we can run this BDI!
[22:10:19] <paul_c> How many will be running multiple heads
[22:11:09] <paul_c> It's a problem with openGL - I find most things will only run on screen 0
[22:11:13] <alex_joni> paul: 2 & 3 are multiple heads on your setup?
[22:11:24] <cradek> paul_c: ahh that would explain it
[22:11:45] <cradek> I thought you meant virtual desktops, which would be extremely strange, but you do actually mean screens
[22:13:48] <paul_c> Have three monitors on one box here
[22:14:34] <cradek> paul_c: will this be called BDI-3?
[22:14:52] <paul_c> sorry... Should have answerd that...
[22:15:11] <cradek> assumed you just missed it
[22:15:23] <paul_c> Not sure what to call it.
[22:15:31] <cradek> ok
[22:15:37] <cradek> I'm calling it "the upcoming BDI release" then
[22:15:49] <paul_c> Had BDI-2.xx, BDI-TNG, umpteen BDI-Lives
[22:16:23] <paul_c> How about BDI-6 ?
[22:16:41] <cradek> BDI-2005?
[22:17:01] <cradek> Mongoose BDI?
[22:17:08] <cradek> I dunno, you tell me :-)
[22:17:39] <paul_c> TNG should have been -3.xx
[22:18:12] <paul_c> so BDI-4.00
[22:19:16] <paul_c> Hah...
[22:19:38] <paul_c> * paul_c finds a file that doesn't plot fuly.
[22:19:52] <cradek> you mean the preview is incomplete?
[22:19:57] <paul_c> yes
[22:20:13] <cradek> it gets coordinate systems and a few arcs wrong
[22:20:20] <cradek> it will all be fixed in 1.0
[22:20:38] <cradek> (we are already making progress on 1.0)
[22:20:47] <paul_c> This is previewing about 1/3 of the full plot.
[22:21:02] <cradek> send me the file?
[22:21:29] <paul_c> will do
[22:22:06] <cradek> does it use g92, g54....g59.3?
[22:22:32] <cradek> those will certainly display wrong
[22:23:11] <ottos> day gents..
[22:23:17] <cradek> hello
[22:23:28] <alex_joni> hi
[22:23:46] <ottos> anything new and exiting?
[22:23:56] <cradek> we just heard AXIS will be on BDI-4
[22:24:08] <paul_c> 14833 lines, and just G0 & G1 moves
[22:24:09] <jepler> it's the first step to world domination!
[22:24:20] <ottos> nice...
[22:24:22] <cradek> paul_c: yeah I definitely want to see that
[22:24:50] <cradek> jepler: ssshhhh!
[22:25:19] <jepler> cradek: sorry
[22:27:56] <paul_c> Ah.. jepler - Just the lad we need..
[22:30:58] <ottos> say for when is the new release due?
[22:30:59] <paul_c> Two questions
[22:31:10] <paul_c> ottos: Soon.
[22:32:08] <paul_c> Can the "programs" dir default to emcsourcedir+programs ?
[22:33:34] <cradek> paul_c: would you make up a list of things you find
[22:33:41] <cradek> I will add them to the wishlist or buglist as appropriate
[22:34:00] <paul_c> well... The only other question was how to build a deb
[22:34:26] <cradek> ok, well I can't help with that
[22:34:28] <cradek> but about the directories:
[22:34:43] <cradek> I already added a wishlist item that it should default to the directory you last loaded a file from
[22:34:53] <cradek> that's a separate issue from the first default directory, I know
[22:34:58] <cradek> but it will make it better
[22:35:10] <cradek> I'll add another wishlist item saying the initial directory should be programs/
[22:35:35] <paul_c> what if the default program dir was read in from the ini file ?
[22:35:46] <cradek> that would be fine too
[22:35:50] <cradek> might be kind of nice
[22:36:00] <paul_c> probably be better in the long run
[22:36:12] <cradek> agreed
[22:36:30] <cradek> we would have to fix all the guis
[22:36:33] <cradek> but that wouldn't be hard
[22:36:36] <paul_c> where's the feature request page ?
[22:36:48] <cradek> right now, it's the TODO file in our cvs
[22:36:59] <cradek> * file open dialog should remember the directory from previous open
[22:36:59] <cradek> * file open's initial default directory should be read from the ini
[22:37:07] <cradek> it now has these two things
[22:37:42] <paul_c> and needs to be able to handle ~/foo correctly (which emc doesn't at the moment
[22:37:50] <cradek> it already does
[22:38:36] <cradek> it's a smart dialog, you can type a dir name and hit enter, and it will show you that dir
[22:38:54] <cradek> or you can type ~/file.ngc and it opens it directly
[22:39:14] <paul_c> One advantage of using a higher level language.
[22:40:19] <cradek> gotta go, I might be back in a few hours
[22:40:40] <cradek> I'll read /msg later if you have other thoughts
[22:41:01] <alex_joni> paul: wanna hardcode the path to the inifile?
[22:41:11] <alex_joni> I meant in the inifile
[22:41:54] <paul_c> * paul_c waits for python-axis to add to the CD.
[22:41:56] <alex_joni> I think this will get of an issue when doing a make install (this path needs to be changed)
[22:45:24] <asdfqwega> Does G64 (motion blending) operate only between G01/2/3 moves?
[22:45:34] <paul_c> alex_joni: The alternative is to follow the example of many other packages and enforce an install in order to run.
[22:45:57] <asdfqwega> I'm working with my image->gcode python script, and I'm working with G00/1 moves
[22:46:34] <paul_c> asdfqwega: Would have expected G64 to work with G0 moves.
[22:46:43] <asdfqwega> And I don't see any difference
[22:46:56] <alex_joni> paul_c: I don't think emc2 is there yet
[22:47:26] <paul_c> emc2 has a long way to go.
[22:47:28] <asdfqwega> Hm...would it be too much to hope that there's already an .ini variable to control the amount of blending?
[22:47:37] <alex_joni> what if the path in the inifile points to the installed path (emc2 developers who run-in-place can handle that)
[22:48:33] <paul_c> asdfqwega: No such variable that I know of in the ini file
[22:49:05] <paul_c> alex_joni: The answer is simple - Pass an ini parameter on the command line.
[22:49:24] <paul_c> emc.run -ini /foo/emc.ini
[22:50:17] <asdfqwega> paul_c: Probably wouldn't matter anyway...I need a better machine before G64 would really pay off for this
[22:50:33] <alex_joni> paul_c: so a different emc.ini than the one installed? (if I understand you right...)
[22:51:16] <paul_c> On the next BDI release, there is only one master run script
[22:51:43] <paul_c> all desktop icons call the runscript with an ini file name.
[22:52:15] <alex_joni> I agree there
[22:52:38] <alex_joni> what I was talking about was the programs path inside the ini file (emc.ini)
[22:53:07] <alex_joni> if you fix the programs path inside emc.ini it must get modified during install (not that good)
[22:54:34] <paul_c> Not really... the run script would prefix any relative paths with $(pwd)
[22:55:06] <alex_joni> so the runscript reads the programs path from the ini and passes it to the DISPLAY?
[22:57:09] <paul_c> Hmmm. The GUI program would be responsible for reading the ini file if it needs any variables of it's own.
[22:58:31] <paul_c> One of the tenants of the EMC design is that each part can operate as a standalone program and use NML messaging.
[22:58:41] <alex_joni> yeah but the gui would only know of the inifile and the folder of the inifile
[22:59:09] <paul_c> Only the task controller & the kerenl modules need to run as an "item"
[22:59:15] <alex_joni> and of course the location from where it was run (but that can easily be /usr/bin)
[23:00:25] <alex_joni> but all the locations are modifyable by ./configure, so that complicates it a little
[23:02:03] <alex_joni> anyways.. that's not that important right now.. I'll stop bugging you ;)
[23:02:35] <paul_c> I still don't see it as an issue..
[23:03:28] <dave-e> ottos...you running the motenc-100 board?
[23:03:46] <alex_joni> we'll address it when time comes
[23:03:57] <paul_c> alex_joni: If
[23:04:03] <alex_joni> yup
[23:04:37] <ottos> sorry back...
[23:04:47] <jepler> only thing I've wanted from the .run file would be to take a filename to open immediately. That way you could double-click a g-code file and AXIS will open with that file
[23:04:55] <ottos> well...still getting all the cables/etc
[23:05:30] <alex_joni> jepler: you could do that if you have one implicit inifile to open (and of course inifile-location)
[23:05:53] <dave-e> ottos- maybe send me an email dengvall@charter.net so we can stay in touch
[23:06:06] <paul_c> set a mime data-type for ngc files.
[23:06:18] <ottos> sure..you have the same?
[23:06:31] <dave-e> I'm having problems and i suspect I may be the only one
[23:06:56] <paul_c> ottos: I also have a Vital card (for testing)
[23:07:09] <dave-e> well i thought you said something about the vsi motenc-100 board yesterday
[23:07:54] <dave-e> do you have a good compile of vital.o and vitalmod.o yet?
[23:07:57] <ottos> questions about pinouts/etc...
[23:08:07] <paul_c> dave-e: Have you tried messing with the offset values for the SCALE ?
[23:08:25] <dave-e> paul...no i haven't
[23:09:02] <dave-e> I think my problems are more fundamental
[23:09:06] <paul_c> If you have drift in the DAC outputs, try a little bit of offset
[23:09:26] <dave-e> well right now I have a stability problem.
[23:09:48] <dave-e> even at low P I oscillate
[23:09:56] <dave-e> enough to fault the amp
[23:10:19] <dave-e> did bad things to the test servo motor
[23:10:33] <paul_c> * paul_c could do with flying over to see the setup & play.
[23:10:47] <dave-e> oh how i wish
[23:11:20] <paul_c> Dec 20th for two weeks OK ?
[23:11:39] <dave-e> wish had that kind of $$
[23:12:24] <dave-e> just to restore my confidence i moved the stg setup from my small mill to the mazak. took a couple of hours but
[23:12:54] <dave-e> it is running fine on two axes with minimill...now I need to add homing
[23:12:54] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is going to sleep
[23:12:55] <alex_joni> bye
[23:14:11] <ottos> Dave , did you consider omron D5A/B for home switch?
[23:15:06] <dave-e> the mazak has all the home switches, etc already...I do have some automation direct switches to use on the small mill
[23:15:27] <ottos> nice..
[23:15:34] <dave-e> my servo amps have + and - inhibits on them which is really nice.
[23:15:46] <ottos> brand?
[23:15:53] <dave-e> that way you have both a soft and hard limit
[23:16:08] <dave-e> amps are servo dynamics
[23:16:18] <dave-e> 1525BR
[23:16:59] <ottos> i've snatched some Yaskawas SGDA, want to see them in action...
[23:17:16] <dave-e> hmmm...are those ac?
[23:17:26] <ottos> yup..220VAC
[23:17:33] <dave-e> nice
[23:17:44] <dave-e> you have amps for them yet?
[23:17:56] <ottos> all sets..
[23:18:00] <dave-e> wow
[23:18:50] <ottos> say for PID tunning any suggestios?
[23:19:18] <dave-e> no really .... just bring up logging and pick your way thru.
[23:19:31] <ottos> the hard way..:D
[23:19:50] <dave-e> send me and email and I'll send you some stuff on tuning.
[23:20:01] <ottos> ok.
[23:20:16] <dave-e> gotta go pick at the system...............later
[23:20:28] <ottos> ok..
[23:20:34] <ottos> night gents..
[23:28:14] <paul_c> Bump the version number up on the emc.deb.
[23:35:46] <CIA-9> 03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/Make.rules: File changed. New revision:Makefile
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[23:35:49] <paul_c> Standby
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[23:45:04] <CIA-9> 03paul_c * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc: Didn't quite get all of Chris Radek's bug fix in.
[23:46:44] <paul_c> That should kick off the farm in a little while ;)
[23:47:23] <jepler> cradek: is the test for 'cutting' something you added to emcplot3d?
[23:47:47] <CIA-9> 03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/picax.xml: File changed. New revision:1.12
[23:48:59] <paul_c> jepler: What's the quick'n'easy way to package axis in a deb ?
[23:49:41] <robin_sz> brown paper and string
[23:50:19] <cradek> jepler: line #?
[23:50:24] <jepler> paul_c: I took some stuff from the web called bdist_deb, and put it in my local tree. It's not even in CVS yet
[23:50:52] <jepler> cradek: around 793
[23:51:34] <paul_c> jepler: OK... I'll get a CD ready for Ray and we can add axis at a later stage.
[23:51:48] <cradek> I'm going to have to look in cvs
[23:51:59] <cradek> I think it doesn't work right anyway, but I'm not sure
[23:52:07] <jepler> paul_c: I could tar up the "debian" directory that bdist_deb created
[23:52:58] <paul_c> That would do - I can create a package here with the tweaks needed for the 2.6.9 build
[23:53:06] <jepler> OK, e-mail?
[23:53:31] <cradek> jepler: yes, in 1.12
[23:53:51] <cradek> jepler: but I'm not sure it always works right