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[01:02:35] <skunkworks> heh
[01:09:29] <skunkworks> comutator is screwed up on the x lathe servo. Bulge in it.
[01:09:35] <skunkworks> (why i broke the brushes)
[01:11:00] <pcw_home> Thats bad
[01:11:29] <Tom_itx> wonder what caused the bulge
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[03:32:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/moveoff d71977c 06linuxcnc 10scripts/moveoff_gui 10src/hal/components/moveoff.comp moveoff: typos, some cleanup * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d71977c
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[03:37:58] <dgarr> http://youtu.be/KY6hx7WBkO8
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[03:47:46] <Tom_itx> is that enabled by default or do you add it in the ini or something?
[03:47:55] <Tom_itx> good stuff btw...
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[03:50:54] <dgarr> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=tree;f=configs/sim/axis/moveoff;h=68eab7343317c233faee7ee276982527bb173aa8;hb=refs/heads/dgarr/moveoff
[03:51:37] <Tom_itx> will that come in a git pull from master?
[03:53:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/moveoff e2388c6 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/moveoff/README 10scripts/moveoff_gui 10src/hal/components/moveoff.comp moveoff: typos, some cleanup * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2388c6
[03:56:25] <dgarr> yes, it is based on master currently so, for example: git fetch; git branch --track tst origin/dgarr/moveoff; git checkout tst
[03:57:11] <Tom_itx> can't wait to get my cnc fixed to try it..
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[04:08:31] <skunkworks> dgarr: Nice work! thanks for working on this.
[04:08:53] <dgarr> np
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[13:58:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.6 6f7b252 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gcode/overview.txt Docs: remove machine from description * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f7b252
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[17:00:35] <skunkworks> commutator
http://electronicsam.com/images/Mazak/comu.JPG
[17:01:01] <archivist> may need cleaning :)
[17:02:22] <skunkworks> you see on the left side - they came delaminated..
[17:02:28] <skunkworks> *right
[17:03:10] <archivist> yes can see, time for a new armature/ complete motor
[17:03:28] <archivist> or loads of money on a rewind
[17:07:58] <pcw_home> Wow that looks nasty
[17:08:38] <pcw_home> coolant contamination?
[17:10:56] <skunkworks> or just replace it with a similar sized one... :) -
[17:11:41] <pcw_home> yeah I would say that's fully depreciated
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[17:22:21] <kwallace2> On the other hand, anything that can be made can be repaired, given enough time and money. These guys might know how to fix it:
http://www.go-ev.com/Albums/WarP_Motor_Album_files/Components/index4.html
[17:25:41] <pcw_home> Sure but much cheaper to just replaced
[17:25:43] <pcw_home> (My father worked at a motor rewinding company what I was a kid, they could pretty much start with a frame and rebuild everything)
[17:25:54] <pcw_home> when I was
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[17:28:45] <skunkworks> yah - servos are cheap.
[17:32:52] <kwallace2> Well don't throw the old one away.
[17:33:32] <pcw_home> Last thing they would do on a rewind was drill holes for a " Rewound by California Electric" name plate
[17:33:34] <pcw_home> and some joker would say: Hey, is that copper coming out of that hole?
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[17:55:37] <kwallace2> I need to rewind this generator rotor, but copper magnet wire is too expensive:
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Onan_5CCK/dcp_6664-1a.jpg . I have no idea how manufactures can sell a cheap generator for about the same price as the copper for a rewind.
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[18:08:03] <Tom_itx> maybe they get better bulk prices
[18:08:24] <archivist> like in china
[18:08:50] <CaptHindsight> https://www.apm.com/products/data-center/x-gene-family/x-c1-development-kits/x-c1-development-kit-basic/ first ARM64 dev board $896
[18:08:51] <Tom_itx> that may not be real copper
[18:11:02] <CaptHindsight> I've been given mystery metals in China and India that were supposedly copper or aluminim
[18:11:11] <CaptHindsight> the aluminum would not anodize
[18:11:33] <CaptHindsight> and the copper was a bit less conductive than expected
[18:12:02] <CaptHindsight> so yeah, they sell melted scrap that hasn't been refined
[18:15:27] <Tom_itx> i even question products coming from there with the ISO9xxx approval on them
[18:23:50] <pcw_home> First result we saw of assembly contractors changing to IS0900x was instant drop in quality
[18:25:30] <archivist> I have just seen people attempt to get ISO9000 and be fleeced by the consultants
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[18:40:52] <Tom_itx> it's just a paper trail anyway
[18:41:11] <Tom_itx> blaming that poor sob on the assembly line
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[19:10:01] <skunkworks> https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit/issues/396
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[19:13:32] <archivist> he is forgetting those multi jointed arms that can get to one place with the joints in different positions probably
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[19:17:39] <skunkworks> a bit above my head..
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[19:32:20] <skunkworks> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,28439.msg199855.html#msg199855
[19:32:44] <skunkworks> 'Mach4, in it's current state, is much harder to setup than Mach3, and customization is far more complex. The support requests are going to go through the roof.
[19:32:45] <skunkworks> On the plus side, I might be able to make a considerable amount of money if there's a way to make it easier for people to use Mach4. But again, support might be a serious issue here.'
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[19:58:30] <Tom_itx> wouldn't it just be easier to sway them toward linuxcnc? :)
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[19:59:19] <skunkworks> A few post up he compared it to linuxcnc.. (can't do anyting without programming...) whatever.
[19:59:30] <Tom_itx> haha
[19:59:48] <Tom_itx> he probably want's someone to write his gcode for him too
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[20:00:31] <Tom_itx> maybe he should go buy a haas and a programmer to go with it
[20:00:31] <skunkworks> 'You are NOW speaking EMCism, If you want it you have to learn to program it or do without.'
[20:01:49] <Tom_itx> i'd have said Mori Seki but those are probably too good for him
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[22:37:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/moveoff 170ae71 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/moveoff/hookup_moveoff.tcl 10scripts/moveoff_gui 10src/hal/components/moveoff.comp moveoff_gui:improve error handling * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=170ae71
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[23:51:18] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, do you know how i go about uploading those pages to the wiki?
[23:51:51] <Tom_itx> and how to add to the table of contents..
[23:51:52] <pcw_home> no i dont
[23:52:10] <Tom_itx> me either but i think i've got them formatted ok for it now
[23:52:49] <Tom_itx> i don't wanna stick em in the wrong place..
[23:54:06] <atom1> well there is a 'basic steps' page for adding to the wiki...
