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[04:21:08] <skunkworks> Connor: wow - that is packed in there..
[04:21:13] <skunkworks> neat
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[04:30:38] <skunkworks> zlog
[04:30:39] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2014-12-02.html
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[04:36:25] <skunkworks> PCW; how does it work if something is not in stock? does it let you order?
[04:37:20] <skunkworks> the gigabyte motherboard is a larger form factor?
[04:37:35] <skunkworks> (not atom size?)
[04:37:48] <skunkworks> do I have any other questions?
[04:39:16] <skunkworks> oh yah - so No issues running the 7i48+7i44 on the 7i80hd?
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[05:12:01] <pcw_home> Not sure about the store, you can always call stuff in thats not in stock
[05:12:43] <pcw_home> 7I48 +7i44 shoud be a standard config (SVSS6_8XXXX)
[05:13:25] <skunkworks> great!
[05:13:58] <skunkworks> right
[05:14:33] <pcw_home> The gigabyte is a ATX MB (there are equivalent Mini-ITX ones but I wanted PCI slots)
[05:15:47] <skunkworks> do they make a small form factor with 2 nics?
[05:17:26] <pcw_home> I havent noticed any
[05:19:52] <skunkworks> I will probably just play with the j1900.. It is a quad core with 2 nics. I won't need to push it above 1khz - we will be using velocity drives
[05:20:12] <pcw_home> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138404&cm_re=miniitx_dual_lan-_-13-138-404-_-Product
[05:20:14] <pcw_home> is one (unknown though)
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[05:24:12] <pcw_home> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128721&cm_re=miniitx_dual_lan-_-13-128-721-_-Product
[05:24:13] <pcw_home> is another more expensive one (intel + Atheros MAC, strange combo)
[05:25:25] <skunkworks> interesting
[05:25:44] <pcw_home> lots of new MBs seem to use the Intel I210 MAC (amazing ly cheap chip for a Intel 1G MAC/PHY with built in switchingsupply for the LV)
[05:27:26] <pcw_home> But the RTK 8111s seem flawless despite RTKs reputation for flakyness
[05:28:30] <skunkworks> we will most likely be using the simulated tach (encoder velocity) for the amc drives.
[05:28:53] <skunkworks> we have some 5000 count encoders (I think that is what they are)
[05:31:03] <skunkworks> hmm - how fast will the 7i48 count?
[05:31:16] <pcw_home> Ahh, there may be some advantage to going a bit faster than 1 KHz if you are simulating tachs
[05:31:46] <pcw_home> its muxed so not as fast as non muxed counters
[05:32:34] <pcw_home> a couple MHz at least (5000 line is 2 MHz at 6000 RPM so probably OK)
[05:33:38] <pcw_home> you can also bump the default mux rate up if you keep the cable from the 7I80 to the 7I48 short (or tweak the skew setting)
[05:34:48] <skunkworks> actually they are 5000X4
[05:35:01] <pcw_home> I was assuming that
[05:35:10] <skunkworks> oh good..
[05:35:31] <skunkworks> phew
[05:35:55] <pcw_home> 20000 counts/turn *100 (6000 RPM is 100 RPS) = 2 MHz
[05:35:59] <skunkworks> 6000 is more than enoough...
[05:36:35] <skunkworks> they are mounted on the leadscrew which is around 4tpi or so..
[05:37:08] <pcw_home> 6000 is probably into whipping territory
[05:37:13] <skunkworks> I bet.
[05:38:10] <pcw_home> I still need to add the DPLL sampling option to the encoder module
[05:38:28] <skunkworks> I don't know if I trust the j1900 at 2khz.. it ran for a few weeks - but I did get a overrun after a long weekend.
[05:39:45] <skunkworks> pcw_home: would that help the 1khz + simulaed tach issue?
[05:41:12] <pcw_home> 2 KHz would help
[05:42:16] <skunkworks> That is what I have been running your config at - but like I said - I did get 1 overun
[05:42:30] <skunkworks> might just have to get some more umph..
[05:43:11] <skunkworks> I should go to sleep
[05:43:43] <skunkworks> pcw_home: thanks for the info - I think dad ordered the cards.
[05:44:18] <pcw_home> 'nite
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[13:34:08] <skunkworks> So am I seeing the path following changing because of read/write timing?
[13:34:09] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/Screenshot%20-%2012032014%20-%2003:31:04%20PM.png
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[13:34:33] <skunkworks> (this is running spash at FO at 3000%)
[13:35:35] <skunkworks> or is it just path drawing artifacts?
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[14:29:15] <ktchk> Hi the debian live cd missed to install the fsck.jfs. Can not use the jfs file system.
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[15:04:20] <pcw_home> I dont think those are related to timing (much too large)
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[15:20:32] <cradek> ktchk: does the one from debian have this? we just mostly use their choices.
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[15:36:30] <ktchk> cradek: Yes download from linuxcnc.org
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[16:00:05] <seb_kuzminsky> ktchk: what cradek was asking was, does the regular debian live+install cd from debian.org have that?
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[16:06:35] <seb_kuzminsky> the debian wheezy (7.5.0) install cd has jfsutils.udeb, which contains fsck.jfs
[16:09:20] <seb_kuzminsky> and so does the latest linuxcnc 2.6 wheezy live+install
[16:09:58] <seb_kuzminsky> ktchk: i think there's a point during the install where you have the option to load more udebs, maybe try loading that and see what happens?
[16:10:26] <seb_kuzminsky> or maybe there's debian docs that describe how to do it? the linuxcnc live+install should work just the same way in this regard as the upstream debian.org live+install
[16:11:51] <pcw_home> skunkworks: also it looks like you could tune FF2 closer (to get rid of the acceleration related following error)
[16:13:31] <skunkworks> I don't know if I have enabled Dppl
[16:13:39] <skunkworks> on this system
[16:15:41] <pcw_home> FF2 is (mostly) independent of the DPLL retiming
[16:16:30] <pcw_home> it does change with different thread rates
[16:18:37] <pcw_home> P= thread rate seems to work well (1000 at 1 KHz 4000 at 4 KHz etc)
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[18:08:36] <seb_kuzminsky> this looks like an interesting alternative to git rebase and git merge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMZ2_-Ny_zc
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[18:29:08] <mozmck> looks promising
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[18:53:01] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: the awesome sauce with imerge is that you get pairwise conflict resolution (so even better than the per-commit-vs-endpoint conflict resolution of rebase), and it's checkpoint-able at every stage (so you can come back to it later, or you can push it for someone else to work on)
[18:53:55] <mozmck> Yes. I wonder what the status of the tool is now? looks like the last commit was about 6 months ago.
[18:53:57] <seb_kuzminsky> "hey $COLLABORATOR, the conflict between commit abc123 and fed987 is in your code, you resolve it"
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[20:15:01] <mozmck> How do I add the gladevcp widget catalog to glade?
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[22:21:03] <Connor> (11:21:08 PM) skunkworks: Connor: wow - that is packed in there..
[22:21:14] <Connor> Yea.. it's a bit tight in the enclosure. :)
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[23:57:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/moveoff 21cf735 06linuxcnc 10scripts/moveoff_gui 10src/hal/components/moveoff.comp moveoff.comp: bugfix: misuse of NCHANNELS in subs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=21cf735
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