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[01:04:11] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: yes - On the K&T for testing
[01:04:39] <skunkworks> You could hear the difference. (jeff and chris where over at the time)
[01:05:21] <skunkworks> you can hear the higher acceleration during contouring moves.
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[01:50:31] <Tom_itx> oh that cool
[01:50:55] <Tom_itx> you say it falls back if you use more than X Y Z though?
[01:51:12] <Tom_itx> did you have to retune anything for it?
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[02:19:56] <cradek> huh, if you just lie about the cutter diameter, you can make cutter comp figure out corner fillet arcs for you
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[02:56:15] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: I don't think so..
[02:56:46] <skunkworks> cradek: what ya making?
[02:57:42] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: if the machine is tuned for exact stop mode acceleration (full) - it should work just fine with the new tp.
[02:57:54] <Tom_itx> what were those settings added for the TP in the ini?
[02:58:05] <Tom_itx> i did an hdd change and lost some notes on that
[02:58:24] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: if you are running linuxcnc 2.7 it is on by default with sane setings.
[02:58:50] <Tom_itx> no change needed then ehh?
[02:59:16] <Tom_itx> i may have it on the ssd still...
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[03:01:10] <skunkworks> Tom_itx:
https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg51660.html
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[03:03:21] <Tom_itx> thanks
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[04:34:50] <Tom_itx> where's the 2.7 source located?
[04:35:03] <Tom_itx> is that considered 'master'?
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[05:01:54] <pcw_home> master is 2.8.something
[05:02:13] <Tom_itx> did they move it?
[05:02:23] <Tom_itx> my git line said it did
[05:03:22] <Tom_itx> is there any code difference in lucid and wheezy as far as the lcnc code?
[05:06:49] <pcw_home> dont know what would be different, other than dist specific includes
[05:07:25] <Tom_itx> 2.5 was built on lucid right?
[05:07:38] <Tom_itx> the iso image...
[05:07:59] <pcw_home> Yes
[05:08:00] <Tom_itx> i didn't want to swap distros on this hdd
[05:08:14] <Tom_itx> rather just try 2.7 2.8 whatever...
[05:09:56] <pcw_home> I am running master on Trusty and Wheezy no real difference
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[05:31:59] <Tom_itx> what does your git line look like?
[05:33:47] <pcw_home> not sure, been ages since I messed with that
[05:34:13] <Tom_itx> i think i got it goin
[05:34:53] <Tom_itx> hope it's the right branch
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[05:36:07] <pcw_home> git branch -r for a list
[05:36:17] <Tom_itx> yeah
[05:39:05] <pcw_home> 2.7 and master have the new TP (and derived branches)
[05:41:40] <Tom_itx> so do i want branch 2.7 or master?
[05:44:54] <pcw_home> For a real machine?
[05:45:45] <Tom_itx> yes
[05:45:52] <Tom_itx> well for testing
[05:46:44] <pcw_home> Unless theres something you need from master, I think 2.7 would be preferred (closer to release)
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[05:50:37] <Tom_itx> yeah i went for master
[05:50:46] <Tom_itx> i can recompile it later
[05:52:30] <Tom_itx> i gotta wait until i get my boards fixed / replaced anyway
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[18:35:50] <skunkworks> zlog:
[18:35:50] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2014-11-30.html
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[20:02:03] <Tom_itx> skunkworks have you been testing 2.7 or master?
[20:02:37] <Tom_itx> any major differences?
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[20:16:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 a4d594b 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gui/axis_fr.txt 04docs/src/gui/images/axis_25_fr.png docs: deduplicate an image in the french docs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4d594b
[20:16:22] <seb_kuzm1nsky> Tom_itx: 2.7 and master are pretty close still
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[20:16:54] <seb_kuzminsky> if you're going to test new versions of linuxcnc, i'd suggest 2.7 since that's what we're trying to stabilize for release
[20:23:07] <Tom_itx> i gotta get some hardware back together before i can test anything
[20:24:18] <Tom_itx> what's this moveoff thing? is that for things like changing cutters and resuming?
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[20:26:53] <seb_kuzminsky> Tom_itx: yeap
[20:27:01] <seb_kuzminsky> it's kind of a poor man's jog-while-paused
[20:27:17] <Tom_itx> it would be a very handy feature
[20:27:24] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[20:27:41] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, our users sure are enthusiastic about somebody adding it
[20:27:54] <Tom_itx> i mentioned it a couple years ago
[20:28:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it's been talked about a lot, for a long time
[20:28:22] <Tom_itx> the only way now is to rerun the whole tool path or run from line but you need to be in position for that
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[20:31:29] <Tom_itx> probably not the easiest thing to code...
[20:32:11] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[20:32:49] <Tom_itx> especially with the new TP lookahead
[20:33:21] <Tom_itx> does it keep track of what line it's executed?
[20:33:24] <seb_kuzminsky> it's conceptually fairly straight-forward, but doing it the "conceptually simple" way requires changing a part of linuxcnc called Task, which is old and crufty and easy to break and difficult to fix
[20:34:38] <seb_kuzminsky> there's an effort underway called "lui" or "liblinuxcnc-ui" that will eventually lead to a cleanup of Task, which will make things like jwp easier/safer to implement
[20:35:09] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr's moveoff is a wonderful clean way to get like 80% of jwp without any risk
[20:36:16] <Tom_itx> i hope all these patches don't interfere with the big picture
[20:36:22] <seb_kuzminsky> except the risk of angry users, of course
[20:36:53] <Tom_itx> seems to be fairly user driven anyway
[20:37:03] <seb_kuzminsky> there have been a couple of jwp patches floating around that made things worse in the big-picture sense, which is why we haven't merged it
[20:37:30] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr's patch is just a new hal component, so it doesn't affect Task or the big picture
[20:37:45] <seb_kuzminsky> which is why it's a very likely merge candidate for 2.7
[20:37:57] <Tom_itx> it's not in 2.7 yet then?
[20:38:18] <seb_kuzminsky> right, he's (correctly) developing it in a feature branch called dgarr/moveoff
[20:38:32] <seb_kuzminsky> if you're in a testing mood, that'd be a great one to provide feedback on
[20:38:45] <seb_kuzminsky> especially if you care about jwp
[20:38:51] <Tom_itx> once i get my mesa cards figured out i may do that
[20:38:58] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[20:39:05] <Tom_itx> i blew out all the 5v on them for some unknown reason
[20:39:11] <seb_kuzminsky> ouch
[20:39:19] <Tom_itx> need to figure out why before adding more
[20:40:36] <Tom_itx> and i get limited play time so it could be a while
[20:40:54] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, i can relate to that...
[20:41:04] <seb_kuzminsky> so many projects, so little time
[20:41:59] <Tom_itx> i wish i could code better and knew the innards of lcnc... i enjoy doing that sort of thing
[20:42:36] <Tom_itx> unfortunately i didn't grow up with linux
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[20:46:38] <Tom_itx> i'll rebuild master for 2.7 then
[20:57:59] <seb_kuzminsky> hrm, force-pushing a branch after a rebase that involves many commits takes forever
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[21:08:35] <seb_kuzminsky> neat!
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1MTM
[21:08:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder what the latency is like
[21:08:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05scorbot-er-3 34652b6 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in 10src/Makefile 10src/hal/user_comps/Submakefile 03src/hal/user_comps/scorbot-er-3.py add a non-realtime driver for the scorbot-er-3 robot arm * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=34652b6
[21:08:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05scorbot-er-3 e8cc2b8 06linuxcnc 03configs/by_machine/scorbot-er-3/pyvcp.hal 03configs/by_machine/scorbot-er-3/pyvcp.xml 03configs/by_machine/scorbot-er-3/scorbot-er-3.hal 03configs/by_machine/scorbot-er-3/scorbot-er-3.ini add a sample config for the scorbot-er-3 robot arm * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8cc2b8
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[21:09:43] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, that push took like 15 minutes
[21:10:22] <Tom_itx> not a bad lookin board
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[21:25:55] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, and coreboot is exciting to me
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[21:27:11] <Tom_itx> well that built the wrong branch
[21:27:55] <seb_kuzminsky> are you trying to build 2.7 but getting master in stead?
[21:28:08] <Tom_itx> no i built master and was trying to build 2.7
[21:28:13] <Tom_itx> and got 2.5.4
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[21:28:28] <Tom_itx> did a git branch 2.7
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[21:29:34] <Tom_itx> i'm not that git savvy either...
[21:30:39] <pcw_home> you want to:
[21:30:41] <pcw_home> git checkout 2.7
[21:30:47] <memfrob> git checkout.. beat me to it
[21:30:59] <atom1> i did that after git branch 2.7
[21:31:02] <atom1> then git checkout
[21:31:55] <atom1> does it matter if i 'make clean' first?
[21:33:03] <atom1> ok i think i figured it out
[21:33:11] <pcw_home> what I do is this
[21:33:12] <pcw_home> git checkout 2.7
[21:33:14] <pcw_home> git pull
[21:33:15] <pcw_home> git branch (to check which branch is checked out if paranoid)
[21:33:21] <atom1> yeah
[21:34:19] <seb_kuzminsky> i do this:
[21:34:22] <seb_kuzminsky> git fetch origin
[21:34:30] <seb_kuzminsky> git checkout 2.7
[21:34:35] <seb_kuzminsky> git merge --ff-only origin/2.7
[21:35:10] <seb_kuzminsky> (that's assuming i already have a local branch called 2.7, which points at some earlier commit in origin/2.7 from glo)
[21:35:46] <atom1> it shows 2.7 in the list when i 'git branch -r'
[21:37:00] <pcw_home> it should show every possible branch at glo, many of which are experimental or dead-ends
[21:37:32] <atom1> Not possible to fast-forward, aborting.
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[21:38:56] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Morley 05pnc-spindle-work ffa2cfe 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/external.glade 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pages.py pncconf -wip for external page * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffa2cfe
[21:38:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris morley 05pnc-spindle-work ed38be2 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/build_HAL.py pncconf -fix HAL file built with new spindle work * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed38be2
[21:38:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris morley 05pnc-spindle-work 6bf6b1b 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.py pncconf -fix passing of values from scale dialogs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bf6b1b
[21:38:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris morley 05pnc-spindle-work 47cb91c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/tests.py pncconf -don't assume an encoder on spindle tests * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=47cb91c
[21:39:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris morley 05pnc-spindle-work d986b7f 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/s_motor.glade pncconf -hide the test/tune button on the spindle page * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d986b7f
[21:39:17] <seb_kuzminsky> if you can't fast-forward, then you're not in the right place, or you have local commits that need to be rebased or merged
[21:39:47] <atom1> no commits
[21:39:53] <atom1> it says i'm on 2.7 though
[21:39:59] <atom1> compiling...
[21:40:00] <seb_kuzminsky> if you haven't made local commits to your 2.7 branch, then it got set to point to the wrong place
[21:40:58] <seb_kuzminsky> what's the first line of "git show 2.7" say?
[21:41:11] <atom1> i'll let you know when it's done
[21:41:50] <atom1> commit 0c55c195942782b8dcf22caa5ff8f49591880c6d
[21:42:11] <seb_kuzminsky> ok great!
[21:42:24] <seb_kuzminsky> what does "git branch --contains (that sha)" say?
[21:42:43] <seb_kuzminsky> that'll list all the branches that have that commit in their history
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[21:43:07] <atom1> 2.7 & master
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[21:43:26] <seb_kuzminsky> aha
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[21:43:40] <atom1> i built master first
[21:43:48] <seb_kuzminsky> and "git branch -r --contains (the sha)"?
[21:43:53] <atom1> then thought i switched to 2.7
[21:44:03] <seb_kuzminsky> i should've said that first
[21:44:09] <seb_kuzminsky> the -r means "include remote branches
[21:44:49] <atom1> tom@atom1:~/linuxcnc-master$ git branch -r --contains
[21:44:49] <atom1> origin/HEAD -> origin/master
[21:44:49] <atom1> origin/dgarr/moveoff
[21:44:49] <atom1> origin/master
[21:44:49] <atom1> origin/pnc-spindle-work
[21:45:07] <seb_kuzminsky> TIL atom1 == Tom
[21:45:16] <atom1> yep
[21:46:05] <seb_kuzminsky> and that list must include your local 2.7, like you said before, but not origin/2.7
[21:46:32] <seb_kuzminsky> which means your local 2.7 branch points at a commit that's not in origin/2.7, so something got messed up when you created it
[21:46:43] <seb_kuzminsky> were you on the master branch, then said "git branch 2.7"?
[21:46:49] <atom1> i'll just get it again
[21:47:03] <atom1> i think that's what i did
[21:47:10] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, that's the problem
[21:47:31] <seb_kuzminsky> "git branch $NEW_NAME" means "create a new branch named $NEW_NAME, pointing at the commit i'm currently on"
[21:47:50] <atom1> woops
[21:48:15] <seb_kuzminsky> you maybe meant "git branch 2.7 origin/2.7", which means create a new branch called 2.7, pointing at the commit that origin/2.7 points to
[21:48:30] <seb_kuzminsky> at this point, if you're on 2.7, you can fix it by saying "git reset --hard origin/2.7"
[21:49:01] <seb_kuzminsky> that means "throw away my working directory, make my current branch point to the commit that origin/2.7 points to, and check that out"
[21:49:15] <atom1> HEAD is now at a4d594b docs: deduplicate an image in the french docs
[21:49:28] <seb_kuzminsky> great, that's the commit i just pushed to 2.7 earlier today
[21:49:45] <atom1> so we're ready to compile now?
[21:50:32] <seb_kuzminsky> yep
[21:51:46] <atom1> so confusing...
[21:52:09] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, git can be real confusing
[21:52:27] <atom1> so if i'm on master and want to switch to another branch what do i do?
[21:52:55] <atom1> i thought git branch <name> did it...
[21:53:01] <seb_kuzminsky> the trick for me to understanding git was to learn about the underlying data structures it uses, and how the common commands manipulate those structures
[21:53:13] <jepler> what is scorbot-er-3 ?
[21:53:42] <jepler> ah I see
[21:53:50] <seb_kuzminsky> atom1: from our "Contributing to LinuxCNC" document:
http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2
[21:54:21] <seb_kuzminsky> atom1: if i'm on a branch and want to switch to another branch, i do this
[21:54:29] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: so you get non-realtime control of position with that setup?
[21:54:34] <seb_kuzminsky> git checkout $NEW_BRANCH
[21:54:56] <seb_kuzminsky> the "checkout" (instead of "branch") is important
[21:55:02] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: yep
[21:55:03] <atom1> ok
[21:55:20] <atom1> i think i see what i did
[21:56:17] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: it's pretty awful and jerky, but it was quick to do and it is usable by existing scorbot er-3 owners
[21:57:15] <seb_kuzminsky> "quick"
[22:01:43] <jepler> hmmm
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[22:01:54] <jepler> I wonder if it's feasible to put a test of genhexkins and/or genserkins in tests/
[22:02:05] <jepler> go to world position + read out joint position
[22:02:13] <jepler> tuits
[22:02:16] <jepler> -ENOTUITS
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[22:07:38] <seb_kuzminsky> that seems feasible
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[22:11:05] <atom1> still ended up with 2.5.4 :(
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[22:12:09] <seb_kuzminsky> atom1: that does *not* seem feasible
[22:12:31] <atom1> unless the signon hasn't been changed
[22:12:45] <atom1> tom@atom1:~/linuxcnc-master$ linuxcnc
[22:12:45] <atom1> LINUXCNC - 2.5.4
[22:13:16] <seb_kuzminsky> atom1: 'which linuxcnc'?
[22:13:23] <seb_kuzminsky> it may be you have 2.5.4 installed via the deb
[22:13:30] <atom1> i bet that's it
[22:13:33] <seb_kuzminsky> and forgot to run 'scripts/rip-environment'
[22:13:49] <seb_kuzminsky> well, good luck! bbl
[22:13:53] <atom1> git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-master
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[22:13:57] <atom1> what what i did
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[22:15:42] <micges> atom1: that's correcyt
[22:16:06] <atom1> i'm gonna start over clean
[22:16:09] <micges> then git checkout 2.7
[22:16:09] <seb_kuzminsky> that'll work, but it's misleading to name the repo 'linuxcnc-master', since you can check any branch out in it
[22:16:23] <atom1> probably so
[22:16:25] <seb_kuzminsky> the preferred name for the local repo is 'linuxcnc-dev'
[22:18:13] <atom1> i don't need git checkout origin/2.7 ? just 2.7 ?
[22:18:41] <atom1> i think i see where i went wrong the first time
[22:18:58] <atom1> i made a branch under master called 2.7 instead of checkout 2.7
[22:20:07] <micges> just 2.7
[22:20:34] <Tom_itx> ok
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[23:29:57] <atom1> i don't get it. i still end up with 2.5.4
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[23:30:45] <atom1> here's what i did:
[23:30:47] <atom1> git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev
[23:31:20] <skunkworks> that should give you master - 2.8pre..
[23:31:32] <atom1> cd linuxcnc-dev/src
[23:31:36] <atom1> git checkout 2.7
[23:32:10] <atom1> ./autogen.sh
[23:32:13] <atom1> ./configure
[23:32:16] <atom1> make clean
[23:32:17] <atom1> make
[23:32:23] <atom1> sudo make setuid
[23:32:44] <atom1> . ./scripts/rip-environment
[23:32:47] <atom1> linuxcnc
[23:32:55] <atom1> and it returns 2.5.4
[23:34:13] <atom1> skunkworks, and it did the first time i compiled it as master
[23:35:49] <skunkworks> I am not an expert of git foo - did you reuse a directory that you all ready had built linuxcnc?
[23:36:24] <atom1> no
[23:36:31] <atom1> i created a new one this time
[23:36:34] <atom1> tom@atom1:~/linuxcnc-dev$ git merge --ff-only origin/2.7
[23:36:34] <atom1> Already up-to-date.
[23:36:53] <atom1> that all indicates i'm on the right branch
[23:36:59] <atom1> far as i can tell
[23:37:20] <micges> what git reuturned after 'git checkout 2.7' ?
[23:37:51] <atom1> tom@atom1:~/linuxcnc-dev$ git checkout 2.7
[23:37:51] <atom1> Already on '2.7'
[23:38:00] <skunkworks> skunkworks@skunkworks-Studio-XPS-1645:~/linuxcnc-2.8$ linuxcncLINUXCNC - 2.8.0~pre1
[23:38:27] <atom1> i just started over fresh
[23:38:58] <micges> atom1: not now, the first time you entered it afterclone
[23:39:01] <atom1> i'm not on wheezy though i'm on ubuntu 10.04
[23:39:26] <atom1> pretty sure it was the same
[23:39:40] <skunkworks> this machine is 14.04
[23:41:07] <atom1> i'll go thru it one more time...
[23:42:03] <micges> hold on
[23:42:08] <atom1> too late
[23:42:19] <micges> ok clone it and wait
[23:43:30] <atom1> git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev
[23:43:32] <atom1> first step.
[23:44:33] <micges> hold on finishing clone here..
[23:44:49] <atom1> it'll take a bit here
[23:44:58] <atom1> 23%
[23:45:00] <micges> here to
[23:45:01] <micges> 70%
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[23:47:43] <KimK> Hi gents. Sorry, I just got here, but back 20-30 lines I saw "cd linuxcnc-dev/src" , is that correct? I've been doing checkout (and other git stuff) from linuxcnc-dev, have I been doing it wrong?
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[23:49:55] <micges> KimK: does it works for you?
[23:50:27] <micges> atom1: ok cloned
[23:50:58] <atom1> 84%
[23:51:14] <atom1> next step?
[23:51:21] <atom1> cloned here as well
[23:51:31] <KimK> I'm glad to find a small crowd here, I wanted to ask for advice. What OS is in fashion lately for linuxcnc. I see talk of Debian Wheezy. Anyone still using Ubuntu (14.04 now?). Has anyone tried to put linuxcnc on Mint?
[23:51:59] <atom1> i'm working on putting it on 10.04 ubuntu
[23:52:01] <micges> atom1:
http://pastebin.com/qv0TUkLv
[23:52:52] <micges> atom1: br = branch, co = checkout
[23:53:04] <KimK> micges: Yes, I recall it working for me that way in the past, but I haven't been doing a lot with git lately.
[23:53:23] <KimK> At least not until just lately.
[23:53:44] <atom1> tom@atom1:~/linuxcnc-dev$ git branch
[23:53:45] <atom1> * master
[23:54:24] <atom1> tom@atom1:~/linuxcnc-dev$ git checkout 2.7
[23:54:24] <atom1> Branch 2.7 set up to track remote branch 2.7 from origin.
[23:54:24] <atom1> Switched to a new branch '2.7'
[23:54:47] <micges> yes that's good
[23:54:57] <atom1> as it did the last time
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[23:55:21] <micges> atom1: 'cat VERSION' ?
[23:55:39] <atom1> 2.7.0~pre2
[23:55:42] <KimK> atom1: You're doing it from scratch to build 2.7 on 10.04?
[23:55:50] <atom1> yes
[23:56:14] <micges> atom1: you're on 2.7
[23:56:29] <atom1> ok i'll build it
[23:56:34] <pcw_home> KimK: I've always done the git operations from the top level (maybe wrong but seems OK)
[23:56:35] <pcw_home> (and I am running Ubuntu 14.04 with linuxcnc here)
[23:57:09] <atom1> i still do the ./autogen.sh from src right?
[23:57:14] <micges> yes
[23:57:20] <atom1> then ./configure
[23:57:51] <micges> atom1: how did you start linuxcnc after build?
[23:58:14] <atom1> sudo make setuid
[23:58:28] <atom1> . ./scripts/rip-environment
[23:58:31] <atom1> linuxcnc
[23:59:14] <micges> try go to scripts dir and type ./linuxcnc
[23:59:30] <atom1> i will when it's doen
[23:59:47] <atom1> done*