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[00:30:52] <pcw_home> OK Let me try
[00:33:57] <pcw_home> OK thats all it was though I get a error/notifier popup
[00:33:59] <pcw_home> "Linux parport #0 @0x378 0x0"
[00:36:11] <pcw_home> cmorely did you happen to see this:
[00:36:12] <pcw_home> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/28539-5i257i76-spindle-not-working
[00:36:14] <pcw_home> (two typos in pncconf boilerplate)
[00:36:35] <jepler> that one's a debugging message that should be removed
[00:37:07] <jepler> it juts says that linux knows about a parport at 0x378, no extended regsters (0x0); its linux parport number i s0
[00:37:10] <jepler> is 0
[00:38:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 2675514 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_parport.cc parport: remove debugging message * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2675514
[00:38:29] <pcw_home> OK looked like one...
[00:38:30] <pcw_home> hmm wonder if I have parallel port cable here
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[02:32:50] <jepler> http://ssvb.github.io/2014/11/11/revisiting-fullhd-x11-desktop-performance-of-the-allwinner-a10.html
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[02:50:13] <skunkworks_> I bet I can make jepler cry...
http://pastebin.com/YL9hpEWL
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[02:53:23] <jepler> while(True):
[02:53:33] <jepler> normal Python style would be just while True:
[02:53:37] <jepler> cv2.destroyAllWindows
[02:53:46] <jepler> missing parens mean the function won't actually be called
[02:56:15] <jepler> of course it would benefit from being factored out into functions, but just what functions I'm not going to tell you
[02:57:03] <skunkworks_> heh - to I get extra points for it actually working?
[02:57:09] <skunkworks_> Do..
[02:58:03] <skunkworks_> Hmm - The cv2.destroyAlllWindows was taken right from opencv's example
[02:58:26] <jepler> that doesn't necessarily make it right
[02:59:37] <jepler> but yes, you get points for it working
[03:00:15] <jepler> roland at txrx will want this code once he gets further along on his combined PCB scan-exposing / drilling rig
[03:00:25] <jepler> I think the process involves placing the board at least 4 times
[03:00:59] <jepler> .. but the machine wasn't even moving on two axes by the time we left, let alone drilling, exposing, and imaging
[03:02:09] <skunkworks_> all this does is detect circles of a given range of sizes. I have not looked to see what other shapes opencv natively finds..
[03:02:56] <skunkworks_> (and allows you to average multiple samples)
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[03:47:00] <skunkworks_> If I can actually get the camera working for more than a few seconds - I will post it on the list
[04:00:38] <seb_kuzminsky> that's cool, skunkworks_
[04:01:03] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, 1764 iterations of the halui/mdi test and no more failures :-/
[04:01:30] <skunkworks_> yay?
[04:01:35] <seb_kuzminsky> boo
[04:01:40] <skunkworks_> oh
[04:01:44] <seb_kuzminsky> there's a bug in there, it's just hiding really well :-/
[04:02:17] <seb_kuzminsky> i know! i'll ignore it and go frivolously play with the robot arm at the hackspace & drink beer with my nerdy buds! :-)
[04:02:23] <seb_kuzminsky> bye!
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[04:21:02] <cmorley> pcw_home: yes thanks I saw it - Though am not sure what version of linuxcnc he is using. In master I am working on something that will cover this.
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[04:40:29] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks_:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FirtmYcC0Vc OpenCV Python Homography
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[04:48:15] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSeFrPrqZ2A Real-Time Object Tracking
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[14:38:14] <seb_kuzminsky> it happened again
[14:38:22] <seb_kuzminsky> on run #5846
[14:38:54] <seb_kuzminsky> the halui mdi test uses a full linuxcnc stack with a custom python gui (not using lui), and halui (using lui)
[14:39:32] <seb_kuzminsky> the test gui sets the task mode to one of manual/auto/mdi, then pokes the halui pin that causes halui to send an mdi command (switching mode to mdi first, if needed)
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[14:40:43] <seb_kuzminsky> the behavior is: i see the python test-ui send its task-mode command, then i see halui send *its* task-mode command, then the halui task-mode command to switch back
[14:40:56] <seb_kuzminsky> the mdi command between the two halui mode-setting commands is missing
[14:41:24] <seb_kuzminsky> the second mode-setting command has a serial number indicating that lui thought it sent a command in between, but task never saw it
[14:42:06] <seb_kuzminsky> halui uses the "wait for received" technique, so sending an nml message to task doesn't return out of lui until task has echoed the serial number back via status
[14:45:13] <seb_kuzminsky> halui doesn't call lui_set_wait_mode(), so it gets the default wait mode of lui_command_wait_mode_received
[14:46:13] <seb_kuzminsky> during this time, the python test-ui is carefully not touching the command nml buffer
[14:46:58] * seb_kuzminsky sideeyes task
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[15:02:53] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: surely you aren't allowed to blame task until you make the same failure without lui
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[15:09:01] <seb_kuzminsky> you're probably right
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[16:22:13] <tinkerer> ANSCD: Philae has landed!!
[16:22:13] <tinkerer> http://new.livestream.com/esa/cometlanding
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[16:31:13] <seb_kuzminsky> sweet
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[16:50:55] <skunkworks> write tmax is still 399288
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[18:32:22] <mozmck> Is it still good to disable hyperthreading for best latency? I'm using a dell gx620 single core pentium 4.
[18:32:59] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: i'm really not sure
[18:33:18] <mozmck> I guess I can just try and see.
[18:33:49] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd say, use the lstopo program from the hwloc-nox package to see which vCPUs share cache
[18:34:30] <seb_kuzminsky> then either use isolcpus to isolate the vCPU you want for rtai and all the vCPUs that might mess with the same cache
[18:35:24] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess if you disable hyperthreading that'll modify the cpu topology that lstopo reports, and it'll indicate a different set of vpcus to isolate, possibly just a single one
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[18:41:40] <mozmck> I just disabled it, and the latency dropped in half
[18:42:06] <mozmck> was about 25000 for the base thread, is now about 9600
[18:44:10] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, that's great!
[18:44:15] <seb_kuzminsky> are you using isolcpus too?
[18:44:27] <mozmck> no, it's a single core.
[18:44:49] <seb_kuzminsky> does "nproc" currently say 1?
[18:44:56] <seb_kuzminsky> (with hyperthreading off)
[18:45:05] <mozmck> never heard of nproc, but yes it does
[18:45:10] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[18:45:15] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, that makes sense then
[18:45:35] <seb_kuzminsky> with hyperthreading on your machine has two vcpus (on its one core), sharing cache
[18:45:54] <mozmck> jumped to 11800 now, still not too bad.
[18:46:14] <seb_kuzminsky> the non-rtai vcpu is competing with the rtai vcpu for cache space, evicting rtai code, introducing increased memory latency for rtai, which shows up as increased scheduling latency
[18:46:52] <mozmck> that makes sense.
[18:46:58] <seb_kuzminsky> with hyperthreading off there is only one vcpu, so there's half the executable code running and competing for cache space, so your latency is better
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[19:35:06] <skunkworks> On the systems I have tested - disabling hyperthreading improves latency
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[19:41:41] <seb_kuzminsky> that makes sense
[19:42:24] <seb_kuzminsky> isabling hyperthreading has a similar cache-pressure-reducing effect as using isolcpus to isolate all the vcpus that share the cache
[19:42:35] <seb_kuzminsky> plus also reducing the pressure on the l3 cache since there's less code running
[19:43:03] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd expect the effect to be significant in the absense of proper isolcpus, and small in the presence of correct isolcpus
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