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[00:29:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/motoman 8415e84 06linuxcnc 10(13 files) motoman kinematics * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8415e84
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[00:29:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/motoman 806659e 06linuxcnc 10(25 files in 7 dirs) integrate motoman robot6kins with our build system * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=806659e
[00:29:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/motoman 943b43a 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/vismach/motoman/motoman_sim_6.hal comment out motomangui stuff, missing stl files * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=943b43a
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[00:49:22] <jepler> boo, our 7i30 stopped working
[00:49:50] <jepler> it seems like something in the logic section went wrong, though we can't spot any damaged component
[00:50:25] <jepler> no encoder feedback, let alone running the amps
[00:51:57] <jepler> the green LED silkscreened "3.3V" doesn't light now, and measuring at what appears to be the output of VR1 shows .2v. resistance from the VR1 output to GND is 1.2ohm.
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[00:58:34] <jepler> pcw_home: anything you can think of to try or check?
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[01:27:52] <pcw_home> Hmm either the voltage regulator failed or one of chips it powers shorted
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[01:28:27] <cradek> it was actually running when it failed
[01:28:42] <cradek> we weren't moving wires around, or doing any of the other things that usually make things fail
[01:28:49] <pcw_home> I dont have access to a current schematic so I dont know off hand what the 3.3v regulator powers
[01:29:05] <cradek> it's on the gantry homing jig :-(
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[01:31:19] <pcw_home> I guess you could try powering the 3.3 with a lab supply and inch the current up until you find something hot
[01:31:42] <cradek> that's a good idea (I fixed my laptop by doing that)
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[01:35:49] <atom1> out of curiosity, what feedrate does the backlash comp move feed at before a normal feed move?
[01:45:31] <pcw_home> freeby.mesanet.com/7i30sch.zip shoud be about right (though old)
[01:45:33] <pcw_home> The 74HC14s may be powered by the 3.3V on newer versions
[01:46:37] <cradek> thanks!
[01:47:12] <cradek> this one says art rev. D (I bet it's quite old)
[01:50:53] <pcw_home> I think we have had a few LM3480s fail so it may be the 3.3v VR that failed
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[02:27:40] <pcw_home> if the LM3480 is bad and you have a 5V tolerant FPGA card, I think you can just jumper it out (so the 74HC14s run on 5V instead)
[02:28:39] <pcw_home> (this will raise the nominal encoder input threshold to ~2.5V which should be OK)
[02:36:10] <jepler> pcw_home: we snipped pin 14 of U6 after jon elson's finger picked it out as the overheating part. now we have a green "3.3V" led again.
[02:36:38] <jepler> more word soon once we have things put back together, but it looks like one of the 74HC14s failed
[02:36:47] <pcw_home> weird
[02:45:13] <jepler> well now things went worse
[02:45:34] <jepler> (a h bridge gave up its smoke)
[02:45:51] <jepler> "I don't know why that happened" </cradek>
[02:47:36] <jepler> different channel too
[02:48:00] <pcw_home> maybe this started with a Hbridge damaging a 74HC14 on its way to failure
[02:52:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/dotty-docs 8d16c65 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in 10docs/src/Submakefile 10docs/src/code/.gitignore 10docs/src/code/Code_Notes.txt docs: include homing state diagrams in the Code Notes * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d16c65
[02:52:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/dotty-docs f594930 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/asciideps docs: better asciidoc dependency generation * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f594930
[02:54:46] <pcw_home> The Hbridges on the 7I30 can be destroyed by fast braking when in slow decay mode
[02:54:48] <pcw_home> (or not dropping enable on a following error )
[02:56:26] <cradek> it sounds like that might have been what we were doing
[02:57:00] <pcw_home> This is because in slow decay mode they short the load in the PWM off cycle but they only have one common current sense resistor
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[02:57:02] <pcw_home> so cannot sense current in this condition
[02:57:21] <jepler> before the first failure I had just increased velocity and acceleration considerably
[02:57:30] <cradek> yeah, it was working great
[02:58:02] <jepler> went from something like 1ips and 4ips^2 to 8ips and 36ips^2
[02:58:12] <jepler> and yes, slow decay mode
[02:59:00] <pcw_home> may also have had a overvoltage, it has no protection against this
[02:59:06] <cradek> atom1: half of the configured max velocity I think?
[02:59:19] <cradek> yes we were running it on 30v
[02:59:52] <cradek> but tiny mass on the motors (just 10" of leadscrew)
[03:00:41] <pcw_home> Big output capacitor on PS?
[03:01:09] <jepler> dunno, there's a 470uF on the input to the 7i30 and we were using a 5A bench supply which is probably beefy
[03:02:55] <pcw_home> I will look to seen if we have any 7I30s or 7I40s in stock on Monday and send you one
[03:02:58] <jepler> live and learn and don't tune everything so darned fast
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[03:03:41] <jepler> pcw_home: I'm not sure we'll be here for long enough that it's worth it. I leave first thing wednesday morning
[03:04:44] <pcw_home> (you may be able to remove the bad chips and continue with what still works)
[03:05:01] <jepler> yeah, I hear they have a nice hot-air rework station here
[03:05:27] <cradek> it's true we only need two working H bridges for this task
[03:05:30] <jepler> we only need two fully working channels for our little gantry setup, but we know we have two at least partially busted channels
[03:06:39] <pcw_home> if the busted HBridge channel was unused, that points to an overvoltage
[03:07:13] <jepler> this was a used channel
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[03:08:20] <jepler> though after we hooked things back up it was already a non-working channel -- the motors had no holding torque even before the smoke came out
[03:08:36] <jepler> we were busy scratching our heads over that when things started popping and smoking
[03:08:45] <pcw_home> OK so most likely overcurrent (maybe wide FE settings)
[03:09:07] <jepler> though I *may* have just turned the screw way far away from its commanded position when it popped
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[03:09:46] <jepler> pretty sure I was turning one of the leadscrews at the time, and since I felt no resistance I wasn't thinking it was particularly problematic to turn it further
[03:10:03] <jepler> more "huh, why are our enables broken" than anything else
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[03:15:38] <pcw_home> Hard to tell the exact sequence of what went wrong but from experience
[03:15:39] <pcw_home> slow decay mode, high speeds and accelerations and wide FEs (or no dropping enables on FE)
[03:15:41] <pcw_home> are liable to kill the A3959s
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[03:22:12] <jepler> we sure did a couple of those things
[03:22:19] <jepler> one more reason not to reward us with more hardware :-P
[03:23:35] <pcw_home> Well the A3959s are not very tough
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[03:27:55] <pcw_home> (mainly because of the lack of current sensing in slow decay mode)
[03:27:56] <pcw_home> Damage is mostly preventable by having small FEs but that makes tuning
[03:27:58] <pcw_home> harder
[03:29:36] <jepler> 7i40 looks like it must be your own discrete hbridge design?
[03:49:23] <pcw_home> Yes (and much tougher)
[03:50:40] <fenugrec> Hi, I spent a lot of time on some trivial setup questions, and to make things easier for others I would have some additions to propose for the lincnc docs (mostly text, and one illustration). Where would I submit these ? I can probably make diff's against git.linuxcnc.org
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[04:41:53] <seb_kuzminsky> fenugrec: diffs would be great
[04:42:10] <seb_kuzminsky> fenugrec:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/code/Contributing-to-LinuxCNC.html
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[04:44:19] <seb_kuzminsky> if (s[i] > 96 && s[i] <= 'z')
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[13:49:12] <cradek> jepler: thanks for sending that summary to the list
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[14:30:21] <jepler> cradek: did it match what you remember discussing, I hope?
[14:30:42] <cradek> yes definitely
[14:35:11] <seb_kuzminsky> i started hacking on it a little bit last night
[14:37:15] <jepler> that was quick
[14:37:21] <jepler> I went to bed last night
[14:37:49] <seb_kuzminsky> well i was sleepy and didnt get very far
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[16:36:38] <jepler> so I imagine a user of lui being able to look as simple as this:
http://paste.debian.net/127600/
[16:44:13] <ssi> do I have to type "BORING BORING MACRO" every time?! :D
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[16:49:03] <jepler> ssi: hee hee
[16:49:27] <ssi> so you guys have experience with the D525 boards, yeah?
[16:49:30] <ssi> I can't get these to boot :(
[16:49:34] <jepler> not me
[16:49:35] <ssi> do they need matched pairs of ram?
[16:49:46] <ssi> doh
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[16:52:34] <micges-dev> ssi: I'm on d525mw atm, nothing special to do to run it
[16:52:52] <ssi> these are gigabyte d525tud, I can't make the damn things boot
[16:53:03] <ssi> no beeps or anything, although I can't find either an onboard speaker or a speaker header
[16:53:15] <ssi> but the fan spins up for a couple seconds, then down, then up again, rinse/repeate
[16:53:38] <ssi> I have a single 4G stick of ddr3 on it
[16:54:04] <micges-dev> I can't tell if it's supported
[16:54:14] <micges-dev> do you have 1GB stick to test?
[16:54:18] <ssi> no :/
[16:54:25] <ssi> i bought the cheapest, smallest thing I could on amazon
[16:54:31] <ssi> altohugh I think I could have gotten a 2x2G kit
[16:54:34] <ssi> which I probably should have
[16:54:51] <ssi> if I could be reasonably certain it's the ram, I'll run to microcenter and buy a 2x2G kit
[16:55:08] <cradek> no beeper is irritating
[16:55:28] <micges-dev> it's fresh mb from box?
[16:55:31] <ssi> very
[16:55:40] <ssi> micges-dev: ...not exactly?
[16:55:42] <cradek> it does smell like power supply or ram
[16:56:11] <ssi> I should try another power supply real quick
[16:56:17] <ssi> I'm also complicating this by using a picopsu
[16:56:30] <micges-dev> I've got same behavoiur on normal mb, I've disconected everything, clean it and assemble together
[16:57:21] <micges-dev> but I also think you should check ram and power supply
[16:57:42] <ssi> what do you mean by same behavior
[16:58:10] <micges-dev> this: <ssi> but the fan spins up for a couple seconds, then down, then up again, rinse/repeate
[16:58:40] <ssi> that's with no memory in it? or what
[16:59:39] <micges-dev> normal setup, it was used after month laying on desk
[17:01:54] <ssi> hw
[17:01:59] <ssi> hm rather
[17:03:30] <ssi> same behavior with a different power supply
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[17:09:33] <ssi> micges-dev: so were you unable to get that one to boot again?
[17:10:29] <micges-dev> it started after cleaing and rest 10 min on desk
[17:10:50] <ssi> these are clean and fresh out of the bag
[17:11:32] <micges-dev> so not same situation
[17:17:49] <ssi> well I'm gonna go hunt down some different ram I guess
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[18:24:45] <jepler> seb: e.g., git rebase -i --exec="git commit --amend -s -CHEAD" origin/master
[18:25:33] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: here you go
[18:25:34] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/linuxcnc-ui-api 2fd64f0 06linuxcnc 10(7 files in 3 dirs) move shcomm to a new shared library, liblinuxcnc-ui * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fd64f0
[18:25:34] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/linuxcnc-ui-api c6da3e4 06linuxcnc 03src/liblinuxcnc-ui/README add a readme * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6da3e4
[18:25:34] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/linuxcnc-ui-api e288d41 06linuxcnc 03src/liblinuxcnc-ui/linuxcnc-ui.h start linuxcnc-ui.h * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e288d41
[18:25:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/linuxcnc-ui-api ca4230b 06linuxcnc 10src/liblinuxcnc-ui/Submakefile 03src/liblinuxcnc-ui/free.c 10src/liblinuxcnc-ui/linuxcnc-ui.h 03src/liblinuxcnc-ui/new.c lui: add new() and free() * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca4230b
[18:25:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/linuxcnc-ui-api 44bb2e5 06linuxcnc 03src/liblinuxcnc-ui/connect.c 10src/liblinuxcnc-ui/linuxcnc-ui.h lui: add connect() * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=44bb2e5
[18:25:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/linuxcnc-ui-api 8324077 06linuxcnc 10src/liblinuxcnc-ui/linuxcnc-ui.h lui header: add lui.debug_level (unused) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8324077
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[18:54:51] <jepler> also it turns out our existing UIs create multiple connections to LinuxCNC. axis/gremlin create multiple stat buffers, one of which polls quickly in C just for the position; and the other which polls slowly for other stuff like dro & button states
[18:55:14] <jepler> another reason we need to have a lui_t* parameter everywhere, to keep these same connections to a single linuxcnc interface consistent
[18:55:17] <jepler> er, separate
[18:57:44] <archivist> polling slowly for buttons would be the reason some people hit esc fast enough and machine keeps going, seen it myself
[18:59:58] <Tom_itx> what would cause slow response times in axis after pushing a button... run, pause/resume etc?
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[19:00:06] <Tom_itx> like seconds
[19:01:14] <jepler> Tom_itx: if you have more than one UI program running, probably
https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/328/ https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/395/
[19:01:27] <Tom_itx> no, just linuxcnc 2.5.x
[19:01:36] <archivist> stuff ubuntu likes to start in the background is one thing
[19:02:14] <Tom_itx> 404
[19:02:40] <archivist> both workforme
[19:02:48] <jepler> they load weird for me
[19:02:54] <jepler> the top of the page says: Error: CSS did not load.
[19:02:55] <jepler> This may happen on the first request due to CSS mimetype issues. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing.
[19:03:02] <jepler> but down below the content *is* there
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[19:08:08] <Tom_L> same 404 here
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[19:34:59] <skunkworks> ssi: do you have both power connectors connected to the motherboard?
[19:35:55] <skunkworks> that is classic 'forgot the 4 pin' behaviour.
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[19:54:43] <kwallace2> Hello. Early on LinuxCNC used Tk, then went to (or rather added) GTK/Glade. Recently, I looked into using dxf2gcode which required me to load PyQt. It seems Qt is becoming popular. I'm wondering if the graphics/UI environment will settle down and if so to what?
[19:59:00] <ssi> skunkworks: yeah... it was the ram
[19:59:06] <ssi> I got some different ram from a friend and it works
[20:00:23] <cradek> kwallace2: churn in toolkits is the result of CADT:
http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
[20:03:36] <kwallace2> cradek: That link is funny... sort of.
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[20:03:54] <cradek> yes that's exactly how I feel about it
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[20:17:38] <skunkworks> how well does dxf2gcode work?
[20:19:54] <skunkworks> cradek: how is he fest?
[20:20:40] <skunkworks> *the
[20:28:08] <kwallace2> skunkworks, so far so good. I got last year's version (in .zip form) because the latest versions are in yet another standard, being .rar, which are not recognized on my computer. Anyway, I drew up a PCB hold down plate in QCad/LibreCAD then using the parallel line function drew the center opening one tool radius smaller, then saved the file, opened in dxf2gcode and basically just clicked 'export', et voila I had a .ngc file.
[20:30:17] <kwallace2> I had to edit the header and footer to get my normal code settings, but I suspect there is a way to set dxf2gcode to do it for me.
[20:34:44] <skunkworks> huh - it runs here..
[20:34:52] <skunkworks> do I have a dxf file...
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[20:36:00] <skunkworks> I didn't think I could open rar files - but I can.
[20:36:07] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i'm not cradek but if i were, i'd say it was awesome
[20:36:25] <skunkworks> that is great!
[20:36:28] <seb_kuzminsky> the tx/rx hackspace is pretty incredible - lots of space, lots of machines, lots of cool people
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[20:38:06] <kwallace2> Of course, I wish I were there.
[20:38:56] <seb_kuzminsky> i hope you can come to the hackfest next year
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[20:40:14] <cradek> yeah, both of you guys
[20:40:43] <skunkworks> if they do it again - a year might be long enough to get ready.. maybe
[20:40:57] <seb_kuzminsky> i hope they invite us again
[20:41:27] <skunkworks> did you guys get the mesa card working?
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[20:51:52] <MrHindsight> is it easier for most people to make a fest in the summer vs fall?
[21:00:53] <kwallace2> I can only speak for myself, any time is good. Closer is better.
[21:00:55] <ssi> MrHindsight: are you at the fest?
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[21:13:52] <steve_stallings> Despite the fact that I did not make it this year, I will chime in and say that summer is best.
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[21:27:41] <ssi> hm neat... this is the first time I've tried the debian-based linuxcnc
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[21:42:54] <MrHindsight> ssi: not at the fest, working
[21:44:11] <ssi> gotcha
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[21:50:17] <MrHindsight> heh trying to find small 1/8-3/8 pneumatic fittings (and a Sunday) locally is like dinning at the airport
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[21:56:09] <ssi> home depot carries some push to connect fittings now
[21:56:20] <ssi> I dunno about 1/8, but they have 1/4 and 3/8 and 1/2
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[22:16:33] <cradek> skunkworks: I agree, this is a really neat place for this
[22:17:04] <cradek> skunkworks: nope, after "fixing" one failure (allowing the board to power up again) the smoke came out of another part
[22:17:26] <cradek> skunkworks: we feel it's unlikely we'll make it better with further effort
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[22:42:13] <ssi> bah, too many inversions! can't keep it straight :(
[22:44:31] <jepler> so we decided on new software projects to do instead
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[23:00:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/new-deb-configure abac31d 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure 10debian/control.in 10debian/rules.in deb: new debian/configure and debian/control * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=abac31d
[23:00:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/new-deb-configure 0fad541 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure 10debian/rules.in deb: fix the debian/{control/rules} remaking rules * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fad541
[23:00:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/new-deb-configure c3bc498 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in dont be so picky about wish and tclsh versions * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3bc498
[23:00:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/new-deb-configure 220a1d2 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure debian/configure: fixup call to usage() * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=220a1d2
[23:01:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/new-deb-configure bca5f62 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure use python str.replace() instead of shelling out to sed * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bca5f62
[23:01:39] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i pushed a rebased version of seb/master/new-deb-configure with your comments addressed in new commits at the tip
[23:02:30] <seb_kuzminsky> i know you said you were done with the review, but did you read 'dont be so picky about wish and tclsh versions'? i'm unsure about that one
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