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[02:28:24] <jepler> wow, I'd love a 5120 x 2880 (27" ~220dpi) display. too bad there's a mac attached to it.
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[02:43:53] <ssi> dell makes one too
[02:43:59] <ssi> too bad it costs as much as one with a mac attached to it
[02:48:30] <skunkworks> have a good trip!
[02:49:40] <ssi> I wish I was going :/
[02:49:46] <ssi> I would if I hadn't spent all my dollars on the vmc :P
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[02:58:03] <skunkworks> heh - we are just too busy. would have loved to go
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[03:05:18] <cradek> yay, made it almost to texas.
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[03:21:12] <Tom_itx> stopped for the night?
[03:23:16] <cradek> yeah, when tail lights change from points to big circles, it's time to stop
[03:23:30] <cradek> it's weird but predictable
[03:23:59] <cradek> jeez texas is tall (5 hours to go tomorrow)
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[03:26:56] <cradek> living smack in the middle of the US, I can get to any other spot in about 1.5 days
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[03:27:23] <ssi> having an airplane., I can get to any other spot in the continental us within 1.5 days :D
[03:27:27] <skunkworks> cradek: did you see
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/Screenshot%20-%2010162014%20-%2007:12:14%20PM.png
[03:27:44] <skunkworks> some version of opencv installs on wheezy
[03:27:49] <cradek> no!
[03:27:54] <cradek> what is it?
[03:28:08] <cradek> I ordered one of those cameras -- too cheap not to
[03:28:15] <skunkworks> (shape recognition..)
[03:29:02] <skunkworks> I have a python program talking to hal from opencv.. looks doable..
[03:29:21] <cradek> neat!
[03:29:33] <cradek> what's your overall goal?
[03:30:06] <skunkworks> really just some applications for work.. (positioning stock by targets for cutting or printing..)
[03:30:18] <cradek> awesome
[03:30:26] <skunkworks> we have machines that do that now - but they are really really expensive.
[03:30:58] <cradek> you guys seem to replace really really expensive things with homemade things frequently
[03:31:06] <skunkworks> it is pretty cool - I didn't think it would be that easy.... Well - you know..
[03:31:20] <cradek> easy is sure relative
[03:31:24] <skunkworks> right
[03:31:45] <cradek> possible (free software building blocks) is great
[03:31:58] <skunkworks> yes - business is picking up and they are trying to build more machines.. getting an extra cnc maybe...
[03:32:22] <skunkworks> they have someone actually using the one they have now. (finally)
[03:33:26] <skunkworks> cradek: the camera is suprisingly good for $27
[03:33:46] <skunkworks> I showed it to a co-worker and he ordered one :)
[03:33:51] <cradek> manual focus from touching to infinity sounds really good
[03:34:02] <skunkworks> I wasn't expecting that..
[03:34:07] <cradek> "just works" with v4l is also really good
[03:34:32] <skunkworks> I have an old logitech camera that doesn't work..
[03:34:50] <skunkworks> I though - it is old - it should work great!.
[03:35:17] <cradek> I have a decent microsoft branded webcam that works
[03:35:28] <cradek> it focuses by itself at random, which I suppose is a feature
[03:35:49] <cradek> I meant to make an internet bird-watcher out of it, but that's stupid so I didn't
[03:36:17] <skunkworks> heh.. the company that sells the supereye also sells an autofocas one - $200. (according to my coworker that researches things to death)
[03:38:07] <cradek> funny
[03:38:15] <cradek> I bet manual is much better for things we're likely to do
[03:39:45] <skunkworks> right
[03:39:58] <skunkworks> 6 turns from one extreme to the other
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[03:53:53] <skunkworks> hard to hold it steady
[03:53:55] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/2014-10-16-225003.jpg
[03:54:15] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/2014-10-16-225142.jpg
[03:54:22] <skunkworks> (both by the same camera)
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[03:56:04] <cradek> wow
[03:56:30] <skunkworks> a bit of backlash in the focus - but usable.
[03:56:35] <cradek> actually looks useful as a microscope
[03:56:50] <skunkworks> yes
[03:57:08] <skunkworks> (it has to be all but touching to get that close...)
[03:58:30] <skunkworks> but it has led's in the tube (which you can adjust the intensity) so you can touch it without having to worry about ligh
[03:58:32] <skunkworks> light
[03:59:03] <cradek> that makes it *really* useful as a microscope
[04:02:30] <skunkworks> what - you didn't like the mirror you had to adjust 'just right' to get be able to see anything in the old microscopes?
[04:02:31] <skunkworks> ;)
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[04:03:54] <cradek> my current one has both a top (top and back) and bottom light, but sometimes neither works if your hands are in there too
[04:04:19] <cradek> having the light come from where you're looking through is ideal
[04:04:44] <cradek> but of course I'm not going to throw out my stereo microscope anytime soon
[04:05:55] <skunkworks> heh
[04:06:35] <skunkworks> hmm - mach has a new 'tangential planner' now... does that mean 'circular arc blending'?
[04:07:43] <cradek> hm, I should try to sleep
[04:07:58] <skunkworks> isn't it midnight your time?
[04:08:06] <cradek> 11 central
[04:08:19] <cradek> I think I'm still in central here, but who knows for sure
[04:08:38] <skunkworks> oh - I thought for some reason you where mountain time..
[04:08:47] <cradek> it's 10 mountain
[04:08:53] <skunkworks> heh
[04:08:59] <skunkworks> maybe I need to sleep...
[04:09:05] <cradek> yeah, sounds like you need to go to bed too
[04:09:19] <cradek> and to all a good night!
[04:09:22] <skunkworks> have fun!
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[04:12:25] <cradek> hmm, chris k says he wants someone to give a talk about servo tuning
[04:12:45] <cradek> oh good, jon is going to do it
[04:12:59] <cradek> goodnight
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[19:24:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master e7a9bd5 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/motion.9 docs: fix a path in the motion.9 manpage * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7a9bd5
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[21:03:48] <memleak> Saw I was pinged a few hours ago. In short, if you use my RTAI tree without isolcpus and you have latency spikes, something is wrong.
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[21:04:54] <memleak> The point of my tree was to remove the necessity of using isolcpus and have literally everything work as-is. fast video, good latency, etc. no magic required
[21:06:50] <memleak> if you want my tree to function like the upstream tree and require use of isolcpus and experience slow video, you need to undo two commits. 2df23cc and 2f749c34
[21:09:05] <memleak> with the commits reverted you need isolcpus=2,3 for 4 core systems otherwise latency will be in the millions of microseconds
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[21:10:04] <memleak> once IPIPE hits 3.16 i will also bump the rtai tree to work with such kernels, i'd do the ipipe bump myself but i dont know assembly and thats the part that needs work
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[21:16:56] <andypugh> Ever look through your old code and think you should have commented it more?
[21:18:08] <andypugh> (In this specific case I am looking at the Mesa abs_encoder driver and thinking that _somewhere_ in the file it should mention that it re-uses parts of the sserial driver to parse bit-fields into HAL pins.
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[21:35:37] <skunkworks> andypugh: kinda neat
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/Screenshot%20-%2010162014%20-%2007:12:14%20PM.png
[21:36:03] <skunkworks> in my mind I think it is pretty trivial to have linuxcnc automatically 'center' that spot
[21:36:19] <skunkworks> (I have it talking to hal)
[21:36:43] <skunkworks> but that is as far as I have gotten - I need to setup a test machine..
[21:37:35] <andypugh> For fun, you could use the Python interface to move the machien so that the dot is in the middle of the field of view, then zero the CS.
[21:38:34] <andypugh> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/python-interface.html#_sending_commands_through_tt_linuxcnc_command_tt
[21:39:01] <andypugh> c.jog at slow speed, then MDI a G10 :-)
[21:39:54] <andypugh> (That’s the crude way, emcanon and STRAIGHT_TRAVERSE might be more sensibvle
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[21:45:18] <skunkworks> I looked at that. I am all about crude... :)
[21:46:31] <skunkworks> initially I am using it as a hal component... so maybe a little cruder and reading the hal pins in gcode.. (in master)
[21:46:47] <skunkworks> but there may be holes in my idea
[21:48:15] <skunkworks> so something like gcode - sets hal pin to find target location -> hal python module says found it -> gcode does something -> repeat until centered..
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[22:35:43] <jepler> maybe this is a case aided by hal variable references, as much as I hate them.
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[22:47:53] <andypugh> ?
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[23:45:35] <cradek> tx/rx is awesome
[23:45:45] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah this place is amazing
[23:46:28] <andypugh> <confused>
[23:47:03] <cradek> andypugh: the hackerspace where we're having fest
[23:47:20] <andypugh> Ah, I forgot
[23:47:59] <andypugh> Clashed with my dad’s birthday, and I can’t see him having many more
[23:48:49] <andypugh> (Cost was possibly more of an issue, really)
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[23:58:38] <cradek> it would have been nice to see you again
