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[00:12:58] <seb_kuzminsky> there's no patch in the debian 3.4 kernel that looks at all like a usb fix :-(
[00:14:18] <seb_kuzminsky> nothing in the rtai hal-linux-3.4.55-x86-1 patch touches the usb subsystem
[00:14:31] <seb_kuzminsky> but maybe it monkeys with interrupts or something that usb requires in order to work
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[00:26:50] <brianmorel99_> Well, I just booted the stock 3.4 kernel from debian and got the same errors.
[00:27:40] <brianmorel99_> My original install was 64bit, so at the moment, I'm thinking its a 32bit vs. 64bit issue.
[00:29:09] <brianmorel99_> Unfortunately, I used the same USB drive to install the Linuxcnc hybrid.iso, so I don't have the Debian live install cd to test with. I'm fairly certain I remember that being 3.2, but I'll have to wait till tomorrow to check.
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[01:51:08] <brianmorel99_> I think I found a patch that would fix it. Looks like it went into 3.12. Tomorrow, I'll install a newer kernel from wheezy backports and give it a try also
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[14:11:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master 4ef6ce7 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 3 dirs) inihal: add hal pins for trajectory planner items * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ef6ce7
[14:11:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master 2ab3a91 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/ini/inihal.cc inihal.cc: use %g for reals in Changed: prints * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ab3a91
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[14:23:55] <seb_kuzminsky> brianmorel99: thanks for looking into the problem, i'll be happy to help you wade through the kernel build system we use
[14:24:03] <seb_kuzminsky> (and even happier to hand off kernel-building to you!)
[14:26:58] <cradek> that usb thing is the only problem we know about with our kernel - it would be great to have it fixed
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[14:30:45] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: i used inihal the other day to tune accel & vel settings for a machine i'm building for a friend, it was great
[14:30:58] <seb_kuzminsky> way more convenient than restarting linuxcnc for each tweak
[14:31:05] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: that's the only bug i know of too
[14:31:46] <seb_kuzminsky> oh wait, no
[14:32:03] <cradek> argh
[14:32:10] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr has a machine that worked fine with the lucid 2.6.32 rtai kernel but doesnt work with the 3.4.55 rtai kernel
[14:32:23] <cradek> oh right
[14:32:28] <cradek> it was a rtai regression
[14:32:45] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
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[15:31:15] <brianmorel99> I think the linked commit should fix it, but I won't be able to test until I get home tonight.
http://goo.gl/C45gzB
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[15:32:10] <brianmorel99> Reading the datasheet for the J1800, etc. it looks like the USB ports are pinmuxed to both the ehci & xhci controller and there is a problem when they both try to claim the ports.
[15:32:34] <brianmorel99> I'm still going to try the stock debian live-cd to see if I just missed the errors when I installed that.
[15:33:13] <seb_kuzminsky> brianmorel99: awesome!
[15:33:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i think skunkworks tried the debian wheezy live-cd (from upstream, not from linuxcnc) and reported that it worked.
[15:34:06] <seb_kuzminsky> that live-cd uses debian's 3.2 kernel, maybe there was a commit between 3.2 and 3.4.55 that broke it
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[15:42:20] <brianmorel99> I was going to browse the kernel source for the debian 3.2 kernel today at work, but their build system makes my head spin (svn vs. git & patches vs. a full tree).
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[15:44:23] <seb_kuzminsky> haha yeah
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[15:52:25] <pcw_home_> brianmorel99: its great you are looking into the Baytrail USB issue, the J1800/1900/2900 MBs are very nice Linuxcnc platforms
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[19:31:05] <cradek> that whole "we should deprecate I/O pins" was actually a disguised question "how do I sets my index-enable to test my encoder?" ???
[19:31:12] <cradek> good grief
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[19:32:30] <seb_kuzminsky> heh yeah
[19:32:46] <seb_kuzminsky> are there any IO pins other than index-enable?
[19:33:32] <cradek> possibly, but not that you commonly encounter
[19:34:26] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah there are a bunch
[19:35:26] <seb_kuzminsky> including many that probably shouldnt be IO
[19:35:36] * seb_kuzminsky sighs and closes that window
[19:39:26] <cradek> ugh
[19:39:46] <cradek> well we should deprecate using IO pins where it's inappropriate to use IO pins
[19:40:04] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
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[19:40:51] <cradek> upon further consideration, I propose that we should deprecate doing all inappropriate things
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[19:44:07] <jepler> cradek: did you read back to the discussion of merge commits and SOB?
[19:44:14] <jepler> I put seb_kuzminsky off by saying I wanted more opinions about the matter
[19:45:36] <cradek> I think I read it the first time through
[19:45:46] <jepler> ah but you kept mum
[19:45:56] <cradek> does it take an extra step that's unlike what any (or most) other projects have?
[19:46:57] <jepler> git and linux kernel don't seem to sign off merge commits
[19:47:17] <jepler> and as seb says, there's no "git merge -s" to add the sign-off message to a merge commit
[19:48:45] <cradek> what's the risk of not requiring it? that someone acting in bad faith will put significant changes (that he doesn't want to SOB) in the merge?
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[19:50:47] <jepler> yes
[19:51:35] <cradek> eh, that's just a fool us once shame on you problem
[19:51:49] <cradek> I think we shouldn't make day-to-day difficult to avoid those
[19:51:55] <jepler> OK
[19:52:07] <jepler> well I think you just need to add --no-merges to git rev-list to skip them
[19:53:30] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks guys
[19:53:58] <cradek> done
[19:54:06] <jepler> (don't you hate it when people give you prose, not a patch?)
[19:54:18] <cradek> for one line, I can handle it
[19:54:53] <brianmorel99> seb: Is your kernel builder able to add a couple of patches fairly easily ?
[20:00:26] <seb_kuzminsky> it's pretty much the debian project's kernel builder, so yeah it handles patches well
[20:01:59] <seb_kuzminsky> you'd add the patch file to the proper place in debian/patches/bugfix/, then add it to debian/patches/series, then rebuild and test
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[20:07:09] <brianmorel99> Ok, I found a couple patches that were added into their 3.2 that deal with the handling of INTx on the PCI bus. Supposedly they fix the Bay Trail USB issue. When I get home tonight I'll fire up a VM and see if I can duplicate your setup.
[20:12:31] <seb_kuzminsky> brianmorel99: aaaaaawesome
[20:13:15] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll be near to irc tonight in case you cut yourself on any of the many sharp corners of my build monstrocity
[20:14:34] <brianmorel99> Well, it may be a process, there is laundry and a Red Wings season opener tonight, so not much may get done.
[20:18:45] <seb_kuzminsky> i am familiar with this pattern of development
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[20:20:03] <seb_kuzminsky> my plan for tonight is to get pid control of the heated print bed in my linuxcnc 3d printer, using a Teensy for temperature sensing and a RAMPS for driving the resistive heater
[20:20:55] <seb_kuzminsky> instead of working on bug #394, which would be the responsible thing to do... :-/
[20:22:07] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: it does sound like fun
[20:24:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i had to extend your arduino/hal protocol a bit to get access to all the bits on the analog channels on the teensy
[20:25:54] <seb_kuzminsky> it'd be good to have a 3d printer example in the sample configs
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[23:47:13] <brianmorel99_> seb:
http://pastebin.com/yMTFHATC
[23:47:54] <brianmorel99_> Red Wings are starting, so I won't dig into it for a bit. just posting in case you recognize something. It's a 14.04 Ubuntu w/ Python 2.7.6
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