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[00:13:31] <memleak> how to testcase for gcc 4.7 and apply -ffreestanding -fno-builtin-sincos to makefile?
[00:15:25] <jepler> memleak: have rtai-config return it in --module-cflags
[00:15:54] <jepler> and optionally screw with EXTRA_CFLAGS in linuxcnc's Makefile
[00:16:37] <jepler> we unconditionally strip -ffast-math, unconditionally specify -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations and conditionally specify -msse, it looks like
[00:16:48] <memleak> yes i saw that
[00:16:50] <jepler> (conditioned on being x86_64 with rtai 3.x)
[00:17:14] <memleak> in rtai-config RTAI_KERNEL_CFLAGS show freestanding etc
[00:17:35] <jepler> configure linuxcnc and have a look at what you got for RTFLAGS
[00:17:51] <jepler> but RTAI_KERNEL_CFLAGS sounds like what should come out in rtai-config --module-cflags
[00:17:58] <memleak> ah ok
[00:19:39] <jepler> RTFLAGS in Makefile.inc
[00:20:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Morley 052.6 b38e98c 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/axis.ini 10docs/src/config/ini_config.txt 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py axis -add ability to set default spindle speed * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b38e98c
[00:25:02] <memleak> ok thanks ill look that over
[00:27:01] <jepler> bbl
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[00:56:07] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks cmorley
[00:56:59] <cmorley> you bet - sorry I woulda merged to master but there is a conflict that I don't know enough about...
[00:59:15] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i'll look at it later :-)
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[01:40:57] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: the conflict is VERSION; I assume take master's side
[01:42:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 4a6cb8a 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure 10docs/src/config/ini_config.txt 10docs/src/hal/comp.txt 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a6cb8a
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[02:24:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 1ba6b02 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/ini_config_fr.txt Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/v2.5_branch' into 2.6 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ba6b02
[02:24:29] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: yep, & thanks
[02:24:40] <seb_kuzminsky> & here
[02:24:44] <seb_kuzminsky> 's one more
[02:25:12] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master f8b217d 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8b217d
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[03:40:37] <cradek> cmorley: about your forum post about gladevcp: I think we fixed this on the debian 7 install? we just built the necessary glade. do you still know of a problem?
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[04:15:43] <cmorley> no. sorry I didn't realize this had been done. I'm still using 10.04 mostly and 12.04 mint sometimes - way behind :)
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[06:16:52] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Morley 05new_pncconf 898c347 06linuxcnc 36 commits pushed, 104 files changed, 0366(+), 0415(-)
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[08:05:25] <linuxcnc-build> build #111 of 4017.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386/builds/111 blamelist: dummy, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Chris Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Chris S Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>
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[12:14:30] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: so is a buildbot failure like the one at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386/builds/111 due to a race condition?
[12:14:46] <jepler> between signing the repo and the buildslave fetching packages
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[14:03:57] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: yes, that's the problem
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[14:04:31] <seb_kuzminsky> i use a buildmaster lock to keep multiple deb archive updaters from colliding, and i could use it in the buildslaves too
[14:04:47] <seb_kuzminsky> but i don't know how to lock all the users who run apt-get on their linuxcnc machines
[14:05:15] <seb_kuzminsky> there's got to be a better way to run a debian archive
[14:05:38] <jepler> sure, you just need a way to atomically update a whole tree of files. too bad unix doesn't have that.
[14:05:59] <seb_kuzminsky> but i guess for now i should do the partial thing that makes things better for the robot, even if it doesnt help users
[14:06:26] <seb_kuzminsky> you could double-buffer the whole dists/ tree with a symlink at the base
[14:06:39] <seb_kuzminsky> still messes up people who are in mid-fetch when you move the link
[14:07:23] <jepler> yeah
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[14:45:59] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, now the slaves take a read-lock on the deb archive while running "apt-get update", and a write-lock when regenerating the deb archive metadata
[14:46:44] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=master 0000.checkin
[14:46:45] <linuxcnc-build> build #2334 forced
[14:46:45] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[15:42:45] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build 0000.checkin #2334 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[15:42:45] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/2334
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[16:10:07] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i updated the buildbot front page tables as you suggested, thanks for the prod
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[16:29:16] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: thank you
[16:30:03] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: do you still want a chance to review my proposed master changes? They're mostly the "safe stuff" from the kfreebsd branch
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[16:38:46] <jepler> also I want to merge the SOB instructions and have chris install a SOB git hook soon, since that turned out to be an uncontrovertial idea
[16:39:35] <jepler> SOB git hook that looks at first-parent only, so for merging long-running projects one need only sign off the merge commit
[16:51:25] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm
[16:51:53] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm not the gate-keeper for master, but i dont mind being an extra pair of eyeballs for your proposed branch
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[16:56:27] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: the jepler/proposed-master commits all look like clear improvements, except i haven't traced through all the implications of "uspace: make libudev optional" in our build system
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[17:02:50] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: if somebody wanted to package kfreebsd debs, they'd have to do additional work in debian/ to not try to pull in the unavailable package
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[17:25:21] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, i've been thinking about that
[17:26:01] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm planning to pull my debian/configure script frmo ubc3 into master soonish, that will make those kinds of tweaks easier
[17:29:15] <seb_kuzminsky> i really like the portability fixes you've been making
[17:29:19] <seb_kuzminsky> feels like good hygiene
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[18:08:52] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: yeah, configure could use a good reaming. I look forward to seeing that go in.
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[18:51:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 6af41c9 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in configure: more helpful "bwidget missing" message * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6af41c9
[18:51:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 13e8545 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in configure: more helpful "libtk-img missing" message * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=13e8545
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[19:54:57] <seb_kuzminsky> our docs build system is riddled with issues
[19:55:42] <seb_kuzminsky> http://i.imgur.com/JwKnRJ6.gif
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[19:59:04] <PCW> I saw the same kind of daddy-longleg bundle when re-tarping the sheep shelter
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[20:04:32] <seb_kuzminsky> did you poke it
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[20:10:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 09f7fba 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/links.xslt docs: section ids are externally accessible hyperlinks * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=09f7fba
[20:10:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master bb6cef6 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile docs: all html links work now * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb6cef6
[20:10:51] <seb_kuzminsky> crap, i meant to put that in 2.6
[20:12:38] <PCW> They were under a fold in the old tarp so got disturbed, a bit scary until I saw what they were
[20:13:00] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, insects do not have blood, blood vessels, lungs, or hearts the way the
[20:13:07] <seb_kuzminsky> "higher animals" do
[20:13:58] <seb_kuzminsky> they have a working fluid called haemolymph that carries oxygen around, but without red bloodcells, and it just diffuses through their insides
[20:15:30] <PCW> at small scales skinny legs and no circulation system works
[20:17:07] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, sure seems to be working well for them
[20:18:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 e6ee4a7 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/links.xslt docs: section ids are externally accessible hyperlinks * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6ee4a7
[20:18:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 c12e3a9 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile docs: all html links work now * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c12e3a9
[20:19:12] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master cbd4246 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbd4246
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[21:17:21] <jepler> Your boards have been depanelized and shipped to you via USPS priority mail. You should receive them within two days.
[21:18:07] <jepler> if accurate, that's 9 calendar days (7 working days) from order to delivery
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[21:36:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master de7bbf4 06linuxcnc 10(17 files in 8 dirs) Don't use non-portable integer types like __u32 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=de7bbf4
[21:36:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 4d0133f 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtapi_uspace.hh uspace: ensure declaration of pthread_t is available * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d0133f
[21:36:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master a83ba6b 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtapi.h 10src/rtapi/uspace_common.h 10src/rtapi/uspace_ulapi.c Get rid of indirect inclusion of rtapi_errno.h * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a83ba6b
[21:36:06] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master c01ec5b 06linuxcnc 10(6 files in 4 dirs) Don't use <linux/*.h>, <asm/*.h> blindly * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c01ec5b
[21:36:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 9794215 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/dbuf.c 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/bitfile.c Don't use errno constants that aren't portable * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9794215
[21:36:13] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 32f9f1c 06linuxcnc 10(9 files in 5 dirs) Drop support for kernels below 2.6.14 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=32f9f1c
[21:36:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 59d02f3 06linuxcnc 10src/libnml/os_intf/_sem.c Avoid printf error due to size of semaphore key type * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=59d02f3
[21:36:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master d141d71 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc Don't use nonportable linux socket semantics * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d141d71
[21:37:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/proposed-master ace75ac 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in 10src/rtapi/rtapi_pci.cc uspace: make libudev optional * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ace75ac
[21:37:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/proposed-master 079426c 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtai_rtapi.c 10src/rtapi/rtapi_proc.h rtapi: disable /proc for kernel 3.10+ * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=079426c
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[22:32:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 3b8317c 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported platform-is-supported: "arch" has components "os" and "cpu", consider both * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b8317c
[22:36:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 8e58719 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e58719
[22:43:09] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: if you rebase jepler/kfreebsd onto master we can teach the buildbot to try to build it
[22:43:50] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I imagine you have better things to do with your time
[22:44:45] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
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[22:46:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/proposed-master 1f49719 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in 10src/rtapi/rtapi_pci.cc uspace: make libudev optional * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f49719
[22:46:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/proposed-master bd57a83 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtai_rtapi.c 10src/rtapi/rtapi_proc.h rtapi: disable /proc for kernel 3.10+ * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd57a83
[22:47:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 00a7238 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtapi_uspace.hh 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace: make non-portable setfsuid conditional * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=00a7238
[22:47:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 4d30f05 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_common.h uspace: Handle undefined SHM_LOCK * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d30f05
[22:47:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 0db9bbc 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_eth.c hm2_eth: make linux-specific code conditional * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0db9bbc
[22:47:26] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 88b871a 06linuxcnc 10(6 files in 3 dirs) rtapi_parport: provide parport mode defines on !linux * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=88b871a
[22:47:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 246c6a9 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace: make non-portable harden_rt conditional * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=246c6a9
[22:47:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 7be3ce8 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace: make non-portable setaffinity conditional * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7be3ce8
[22:47:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/kfreebsd 1b60584 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_parport.cc parport: not portable * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b60584
[22:48:06] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[22:48:18] <jepler> rtapi_water.hh: not potable
[22:50:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05jepler/kfreebsd 7f60434 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported this branch supports kfreebsd * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f60434
[22:51:13] <seb_kuzminsky> now we just need some buildslaves
[22:52:07] <seb_kuzminsky> and another shot of giddy silliness to continue this project
[22:52:36] <jepler> it's not useful for anything!
[22:52:43] <jepler> the kfreebsd port, I mean
[22:52:49] <jepler> I'm sure the project's good for something
[22:53:19] <seb_kuzminsky> someone open a bug ticket to rebrand the project to kfreebsdcnc
[22:53:34] <jepler> posixcnc
[22:54:34] <jepler> also, if somebody wants to buy me a macbook with retina display, I'll promise to spend at least 9 hours working on a port to os x
[22:55:15] <seb_kuzminsky> 0 16:55:05 seb@sebastiansmbp2 /Users/seb> gcc
[22:55:16] <seb_kuzminsky> clang: error: no input files
[22:55:23] <seb_kuzminsky> hmmm...
[22:55:44] <seb_kuzminsky> argh, stop me before i clone again
[22:55:52] <jepler> stop
[22:55:53] <jepler> come back
[22:55:56] <jepler> </gene wilder>
[22:56:04] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[22:56:15] <jepler> http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/stop_dont_come_back_willy_wonka.gif
[22:56:34] <seb_kuzminsky> he looks ljust like you
[22:56:37] <seb_kuzminsky> track suit and everything
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[23:00:00] <jepler> I don't have the hat though
[23:00:20] <jepler> also I think gene wilder has nicer eyes than me, but that's probably a personal preference
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[23:02:58] <seb_kuzminsky> meh, old hat,
http://www.tuxcnc.org/pivot/entry.php?id=18#body
[23:03:08] <jepler> > In general, the kernel community has long worked to maintain a vague and scary ambiguity around the legal status of proprietary modules while being unwilling to attempt to ban such modules outright.
[23:08:19] <seb_kuzminsky> http://www.finkproject.org/
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[23:34:14] <CaptHindsight> some Linuxcnc app running on the cubie2
http://www.bevelcutting.com/blog.html
[23:35:07] <CaptHindsight> uses USB, prices vary based on the number and type of IO
[23:35:25] <CaptHindsight> Linuxcnc / Linux CNC
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[23:50:39] <jepler> ah, not linuxcnc software, but cnc software running on linux. as far as I can see.
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