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[12:48:39] <jepler> I'm surprised that googling hasn't shown me a level translator designed for SPI (3 TX + 1 RX). maybe the bidirectional translators are good enough that having directional translators doesn't make sense?
[12:50:09] <jepler> anyway, if I want to continue with that project I think I (A) need the level translator as close as possible to the odroid, not 6" away on unshielded wires and (B) need to start by interfacing to an SPI slave I know works .. so that the only variable is the SPI functionality of the odroid
[12:50:36] <jepler> (A) would entail fabbing a board, so this all remains on hold at the moment
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[13:05:15] <cradek> jepler: max is together and working.
[13:08:44] <malcom2073> So I'm having a bit of a stupid moment, trying to figure out where the source code to the linuxcncrsh utility is, is it in the main repo?
[13:09:33] <cradek> yes
[13:10:07] <cradek> ~/emc/src$ find . -name '*rsh*'
[13:10:07] <cradek> ./emc/usr_intf/emcrsh.cc
[13:10:18] <malcom2073> ahh ok thanks
[13:10:19] <cradek> perhaps the rename tricked you!
[13:10:29] <malcom2073> Nah, github search tricked me
[13:11:06] <cradek> websites are just a fad
[13:11:11] <malcom2073> Indeed.
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[14:07:42] <cradek> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/28209-261#49680
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[14:16:51] <skunkworks> yeck
[14:17:27] <jepler> cradek: the "save to file" button is there, clicking it changes the timestamp on the inifile and creates an ini.bak file, but it doesn't seem to change anything
[14:17:42] <jepler> tested with a binary.hybrid.iso that has 0.pre5 because I was too lazy to update it
[14:17:53] <cradek> oh really. that's not what he describes
[14:17:56] <cradek> so we have n bugs
[14:18:10] <jepler> I tested with tklinuxcnc/servo_sim
[14:18:20] <cradek> jepler: fwiw I have a more modern one in ~/src
[14:18:22] <jepler> testing with axis it said I had no tunables
[14:18:45] <jepler> .. which is probably accurate
[14:18:49] <cradek> right
[14:19:22] <jepler> who knows what it means when the user says "function is gone":
[14:19:30] <jepler> it could mean the button is gone, or that it just does nothing
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[14:19:46] <cradek> oh
[14:19:55] <cradek> I read it as the button is gone
[14:20:03] <cradek> but you're right, it could mean anything
[14:22:04] <jepler> reverting just emccalib.tcl to its contents at ref 145c609f4950ef94a711aacafcfe8552f46fabab fixes the problem I see
[14:23:56] <cradek> are you getting the "Not incompatible with" message?
[14:24:03] <jepler> cradek: no
[14:24:09] <cradek> (I think that should be "Not compatible")
[14:24:15] <jepler> oops, yeah
[14:24:26] <jepler> I do have the problem at 4a8a50154a8357e6f064a1386dd298c7e6be4800
[14:25:07] <cradek> - puts [list $j $tmpstring]
[14:25:38] <cradek> oh puts, forget it
[14:25:43] <cradek> my tcl is not
[14:26:24] <cradek> it must be the last blob?
[14:26:46] <jepler> seems like
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[14:28:07] <jepler> so given tmpstr equal to "X = Y", the old code gave tmpvar "X", and the new code gave it "X "
[14:28:24] <jepler> for an input like "X=Y", the old code gave "X=Y" and the new code gave "X"
[14:28:33] <jepler> set tmpvar [lindex [split $tmpstr "="] 0]
[14:28:37] <jepler> + puts [list $tmpstr $tmpvar [lindex $tmpstr 0]]
[14:28:45] <jepler> this change seems to fix it for the standard (whitespace-y) inifile
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[14:29:50] <cradek> I don't understand why lindex would do that, but I believe you
[14:30:33] <cradek> and also I don't understand why a puts would fix it
[14:30:47] <jepler> errr
[14:30:50] <jepler> I pasted the wrong line of course
[14:31:02] <jepler> + set tmpvar [string trim $tmpvar]
[14:34:58] <cradek> % format "'%s'" [lindex "a b" 0]
[14:34:59] <cradek> 'a'
[14:34:59] <cradek> % format "'%s'" [lindex "a " 0]
[14:34:59] <cradek> 'a'
[14:35:18] <cradek> I still don't understand why the thing happens that you say happens
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[14:37:32] <cradek> I also don't understand how tclsh can not have readline in 2014
[14:38:24] <cradek> % format "'%s'" [lindex [split "a = b" "="] 0]
[14:38:24] <cradek> 'a '
[14:38:28] <cradek> ok what the hell
[14:39:29] <cradek> oh split returns '{a }'
[14:39:36] <cradek> that's pretty amazing
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[16:14:16] <jepler> dgarr: if you see the scrollback, can you look at
https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/389/ and my proposed patch?
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[19:14:38] <Tom_itx> jepler, take a look at the NXP translators
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[19:17:47] <Tom_itx> http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/GTL2003.pdf
[19:17:55] <Tom_itx> that's the one i used on my avr programmers
[19:18:39] <Tom_itx> set GREF to your low side and SREF DREF to the high side
[19:19:10] <Tom_itx> The device allows
[19:19:10] <Tom_itx> bidirectional voltage translations between 0.8 V
[19:19:10] <Tom_itx> and 5.0 V without use of a direction pin.
[19:22:49] <Tom_itx> the GTL2005 is probably what you'd want, it's 4 bit
http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/GTL2005.pdf
[19:23:51] <Tom_itx> $.49 from digikey quantity $1.26 singles
[19:25:14] <Tom_itx> 4.4ns
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[19:26:40] <Tom_itx> most all the other translators i found at the time required a direction pin
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[19:44:08] <dgarr> jepler: thanks for the fix, i can commit this patch if you want:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-emccalib-fix-for-bug-389-not-writing-file.patch
[19:47:13] <dgarr> cut using git master on debian wheezy uspace this weekend:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ke0x71704na5jpw/AAD_IsemlDU_Tf6fZpHbzcEGa
[19:49:47] <skunkworks> Coo!l!
[19:49:51] <cradek> your stuff is very cool
[19:50:58] <cradek> do I remember right that are you using ppmc with uspace?
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[19:51:14] <dgarr> yes that was hal_ppmc, uspace
[19:51:19] <cradek> amazing
[19:51:32] <cradek> I should port pluto-servo
[19:52:07] <cradek> beweep is a very funny word
[19:53:01] <dgarr> i do get some rt errors at starting which i ignore and there is a traj planner nuisance message occasionally:
[19:53:03] <dgarr> "discriminant -0.000000 < 0 in velocity calculation"
[19:53:41] <cradek> in master I've seen a nuisance message at tool change too
[19:53:59] <cradek> we should figure out how to reproduce them and make bug reports. he's been really responsive.
[19:54:26] <skunkworks> I have not see the decriminant one for a long time
[19:55:08] <dgarr> i tried to reproduce the above message on a different machine but it didn't recur, this machine is XZC
[19:55:16] <skunkworks> cradek, what I call a tool change (and I don't know how we left it) it picks up the b axis and sets it back down.
[19:55:22] <skunkworks> when
[19:55:22] <cradek> hmm xzc might be important
[19:55:35] <cradek> I bet non-xyz configs are very lightly tested
[19:55:53] <cradek> skunkworks: oh good grief
[19:56:08] <skunkworks> that is in 2.6
[19:56:29] <skunkworks> scared the crap out of me the first time ;)
[19:57:26] <skunkworks> I need to switch over the the xyz postion that you fixed..
[19:58:48] <dgarr> this tar file has a complete simulator example setup and tp_xzc.ngc that sometimes shows the discriminant message if anyone wants to try it (38848 line ngc file)
[19:58:49] <dgarr> http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/xzc.tgz
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[20:21:18] <jepler> dgarr: if you tested it too, push away! thanks!
[20:21:26] <jepler> Tom_itx: thanks for the infos
[20:22:14] <jepler> dgarr: ooh are those penrose tiles?
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[21:12:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05master 20f3f1a 06linuxcnc 10tcl/bin/emccalib.tcl emccalib: fix for bug 389 (not writing file) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=20f3f1a
[21:13:02] <dgarr> yes penrose tiles kites and darts
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[21:14:11] <cradek> oops that should have been on 2.6. would you cherry pick it please?
[21:16:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.6 615e834 06linuxcnc 10tcl/bin/emccalib.tcl emccalib: fix for bug 389 (not writing file) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=615e834
[21:16:52] <dgarr> hope i did that rigt
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[21:20:55] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: that wooden box is super cool
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[21:24:46] <dgarr> thanks, it is dyed black now
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[21:31:22] <Tom_itx> what's it say on the inside?
[21:31:29] <Tom_itx> or did nobody notice that?
[21:32:09] <jepler> I saw the lettering but didn't take the time to read it.
[21:32:18] <Tom_itx> my head got dizzy
[21:35:04] <cradek> dgarr: looks right, thank you
[21:35:32] <dgarr> Sonnet 29
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[21:44:23] <jepler> programmer, machinist, and poet
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[21:52:38] <mozmck> looks like someone changed the forum email headers - messed up my email filters.
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