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[00:00:15] <jepler> PCW: it's not table-driven, but I have the start of a d8 assembler in Python.
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/ada8.py some things that it does:
http://pastebin.com/Acg7qkii
[00:00:55] <jepler> I think I don't know how indirection / offsetting works
[00:01:26] <PCW> wow thats impressive (and it has labels!)
[00:02:55] <PCW> Yeah
[00:02:56] <PCW> addtocb @y,17
[00:03:34] <jepler> how's that encoded? I see add is major opcode C ..
[00:04:10] <PCW> did you look at tasmd8s.tab
[00:04:24] <jepler> no, I'm trying to read d8o8.vhd!
[00:04:54] <PCW> thats the hard way!
[00:05:09] <kwallace> ssi: the roughing and finishing is a product of generating a g-code file and not done with canned g-code commands which would might be considered part of LinuxCNC.
[00:06:05] <jepler> PCW: where would I get this file tasmd8s.tab ?
[00:06:09] <PCW> d8o8sqws is the latest (d808 is obsolete)
[00:07:41] <PCW> its buried in the hostmot2 source distribution, let me dig it out
[00:07:43] <PCW>
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[00:08:33] <PCW> freeby.mesanet.com:TASMD8SS.TAB
[00:08:50] <jepler> ta
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[00:11:39] <ssi> kwallace: makes sense
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[00:11:48] <ssi> I should probably just sit down and write something similar
[00:12:01] <ssi> kwallace: what does it take as input? a gcode path, the way G70-type cycles do?
[00:12:20] <jepler> hm, I didn't lay a very good foundation for syntax like @y,17
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[00:26:51] <kwallace> ssi: We do use the G76 canned cycle for threading but generally I consider how I would want to do a basic type of machining operation, work out what parameters are needed, create entry boxes in Glade to enter these parameters, then write a Python script or .ngc file that couples the parameters to basic g-code commands and puts them in order.
[00:27:06] <kwallace> oops, dinner time.
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[00:42:17] <kwallace> ssi: There are some Gremlin notes here:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Gremlin
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[01:45:19] <jepler> skunkworks_: the odroid was fine after a reboot
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[01:53:13] <ssi> kwallace: thanks, I'll poke around
[01:58:36] <skunkworks_> jepler: nice! so - it just couldn't handle the higher clock?
[02:00:02] <cradek> ssi: I suspect that's a consequence of the DISPLAY[GEOMETRY] setting
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[02:00:12] <cradek> err I mean [DISPLAY]GEOMETRY
[02:00:58] <cradek> ugh, which is not documented in
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis.html
[02:01:02] <cradek> weird
[02:01:04] <cradek> I was sure it was
[02:01:15] <skunkworks_> so was I...
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[02:01:51] <cradek> oh it's in
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_config.html
[02:02:40] <cradek> > Geometry has no effect without a rotary axis.
[02:02:48] <cradek> it doesn't seem like that would be true
[02:03:17] <cradek> axis_foam has GEOMETRY = XY;UV which is not a thing that's documented
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[02:08:34] <jepler> skunkworks_: I guess -- it's sold as a 1.7GHz device, so no wonder if running it at 2.0GHz doesn't work right
[02:09:31] <skunkworks_> heh - I had the same problem with the nook color.. you could overclock it to 1ghz - but mine seemed to run the best at the 800mhz spec
[02:10:46] <jepler> I dunno that you can really call it a "problem"
[02:11:02] <skunkworks_> right
[02:13:39] <ssi> cradek: any idea how that works with machines with multiple joints in an axis?
[02:13:57] <ssi> I'm guessing I'll need either XY or XYY
[02:13:59] <jepler> [DISPLAY]GEOMETRY takes no account of joints, it is based purely on axes
[02:14:03] <ssi> ok
[02:14:09] <ssi> I'll give it a shot
[02:14:31] <jepler> If GEOMETRY=XYY is accepted, it might show twice the Y displacement
[02:14:50] <ssi> if it defaults to the kins geometry string, that might explain my problem
[02:15:46] <jepler> a quick glance at the source suggests axis is only looking at [DISPLAY]GEOMETRY
[02:16:16] <cradek> gantry.ini:GEOMETRY = XYYZ
[02:16:17] <ssi> laser machine is shut down right now, but teh plasma machine has GEOMETRY = XYYZ
[02:16:22] <ssi> so yeah that's probably the issue
[02:16:23] <cradek> it's in our sample config
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[02:16:45] <cradek> jepler: does it do something with ; ?
[02:17:02] <ssi> I'm pretty sure that fixed it :)
[02:17:04] <jepler> cradek: yes
[02:18:14] <jepler> cradek: though I don't immediately find where
[02:19:30] <ssi> that might be the last of my little bugs with the gantry machines!
[02:19:42] <jepler> oh I have been looking at 2.5
[02:20:14] <ssi> if i were a motivated, helpful individual, I would write up some sort of document explaining my findings on running dual-homing gantry machines with ja
[02:23:09] <jepler> # apt-get remove cups
[02:23:10] <jepler> ...
[02:23:13] <jepler> The following extra packages will be installed:
[02:23:13] <jepler> hplip-data libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio
[02:23:14] <jepler> whaaaa
[02:23:40] <jepler> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 161 not upgraded.
[02:23:56] <ssi> D:
[02:23:59] <jepler> I don't think apt is quite telling me the truth here
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[02:58:58] <jepler> emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc:2642:19: warning: size argument in 'strncat' call
[02:59:01] <jepler> appears to be size of the source [-Wstrncat-size]
[02:59:02] <jepler> clang always has such interesting warnings
[02:59:05] <jepler> strncat(cmd,buf,sizeof(buf));
[02:59:07] <jepler> ^~~~~~~~~~~
[02:59:28] <jepler> emc/task/taskclass.hh:45:9: warning: private field 'fms' is not used
[02:59:28] <jepler> [-Wunused-private-field]
[02:59:28] <jepler> int fms[CANON_POCKETS_MAX];
[02:59:28] <jepler> ^
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[03:07:41] <jepler> clang 3.5 is about the same speed as gcc 4.6 on this arm
[03:07:55] <jepler> from time to time I read about how clang is faster than gcc, but I've never personally experienced it
[03:08:46] <jepler> hal/utils/halrmt.c:2838:13: warning: expression which evaluates to zero treated as a null pointer constant of type 'char *' [-Wnon-literal-null-conversion]
[03:08:49] <jepler> args[i] = '\0';
[03:08:52] <jepler> ^~~~
[03:09:48] <cradek> ooh that's an interesting one
[03:09:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.6 b03d2f5 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/gantry.ini This made the backplot scale wonkily * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b03d2f5
[03:10:19] <cradek> iirc, coverity says halrmt is bad in lots of ways
[03:10:31] <jepler> clang scan-build has a litany of complaints too
[03:10:43] <jepler> (as opposed to 'regular' clang)
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[03:22:11] <mozmck> I've read a couple of articles indicating that the latest gcc is sometimes faster and generates faster code than clang.
[03:23:41] <jepler> I have found that gcc 4.6 is faster than 4.7, both on linuxcnc and $DAY_JOB
[03:23:50] <jepler> in neither case have I found clang faster than gcc 4.6.
[03:23:56] <mozmck> interesting
[03:24:05] <jepler> execution speed is not as important to me
[03:24:19] <jepler> bedtime here
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[07:14:00] <memleak> i use 4.8.3 but will switch to 4.9.2 once released and major wrong-code bugs are fixed
[07:15:23] <memleak> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/07/27/1838219/linus-torvalds-gcc-490-seems-to-be-terminally-broken
[07:18:15] <memleak> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61144 that bug is the reason why im not switching to 4.9 yet
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[11:52:42] <jthornton> wiki updated with 2.6.1 changes in the change log
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[12:01:24] <jthornton> main page updated
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[12:27:47] <jepler> ugh. hostmot2-firmware requires ghdl but for whatever reason that's not packaged in debian wheezy
[12:30:20] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx92_install_index.php
[12:30:26] <Tom_itx> maybe that'll do some good
[12:30:37] <skunkworks> jthornton, did you get wheezy installed?
[12:31:01] <Tom_itx> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pgavin/ghdl
[12:31:03] <jepler> Tom_itx: thanks, but not really. ghdl is used for building the .pin and .xml files, not for building the bitfile
[12:31:18] <jepler> also ppas don't help, that's ubuntu magic that doesn't work with debian
[12:31:24] <Tom_itx> ahh
[12:31:27] <jepler> thank though!
[12:31:28] <jepler> +s
[12:31:30] <Tom_itx> well i'm no linux guru :)
[12:33:48] <skunkworks> at what point do you stop saying that I wonder... (I am not a linux guru either)
[12:38:10] <skunkworks> btw - I had been having a problem with mdadm not assembling an array on boot. would have to stop it and reassemble it. Found #mdadm and had talked asked on there. really helpful folks (well one guy) it ended up being at some point replacing a drive I managed to get a super block on sdj and sdj1. (sdj1 was where it should have been) on boot it would try to assemble with sdj.
[12:39:05] <jepler> yuck
[12:39:08] <jepler> glad you worked it out
[12:39:22] <skunkworks> this has been a problem for atleast a year... :)
[12:39:48] <skunkworks> and when you only reboot the sever once in a blue moon - it is hard to rembmer what you did last time..
[12:39:54] <jepler> yup
[12:40:53] <jepler> a few years ago something along these lines happened to my home system while I was on vacation. I had to have cradek go to my place and talk him through a process I didn't remember for myself
[12:41:36] <jepler> speaking of which, I need to reboot this system. I don't think there are any such surprises waiting for me though
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[12:57:43] <skunkworks> yay! :)
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[14:52:06] <jepler> ugh, looks like ghdl is going to be a bear to build on debian wheezy. it requires an out-of-date version of gnat, the ada compiler
[14:53:06] <jepler> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548
[14:53:19] <cradek> you're trying to build hostmot2-firmware?
[14:53:24] <jepler> yes
[14:55:50] <kwallace> I briefly reviewed the Python Interface and G-code Overview and haven't found a way to pass a numbered or named parameter from a running g-code file to Python running in the UI. Can this be done?
[14:56:46] <cradek> I don't know of any way
[14:56:49] <cradek> what are you trying to do?
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[15:07:08] <seb_kuzminsky> good morning fellas
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[15:17:23] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: the hm2 buildslave is running lucid, fwiw
[15:17:36] <seb_kuzminsky> precise, like wheezy, does not have ghdl
[15:18:35] <seb_kuzminsky> oh god, someone endorsed me for perl on linkedin, i hope no prospective employers notice
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[15:40:07] <kwallace1> cradek, sorry I missed your reply. I am working on a routine to get tool heights from a tool setter. I call an O subroutine that calls for a probe move in -Z. While that is running, I have a check for a falling edge on is_probing in the UI periodic function. When the probe trips, I capture the position. I use the linuxcnc.status position, which is in machine or G53 space because the tool change messes up the .ngc probe capture G5x space.
[15:40:10] <ssi> seb_kuzminsky: +1 :D
[15:41:27] <jepler> hah, ghdl build-conflicts with itself
[15:42:13] <kwallace1> This works okay except I am now doing two probes, one on the down stroke a higher speed, then finish on the up stroke at low speed.
[15:43:07] <kwallace1> So I don't know which falling edge is the finish probe.
[15:43:19] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: with any luck, if I get it to build on wheezy, it'd build on precise / trusty too
[15:44:17] <jepler> n'th time's the charm
[15:45:08] <cradek> kwallace1: can you recast your problem so you do it entirely in gcode? polling the probe with the gui has never been the intent of probing, and if you use probing's captured position it will be accurate to the exact servo cycle the probe tripped (or released)
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[15:46:50] <cradek> G38.x -> use #5063 -> eventually do the appropriate G10 L10/L11
[15:47:18] <cradek> I also use two probes like you describe, for tool length sensing
[15:47:24] <jepler> # ghdl -r pinmaker_SVST4_4_48
[15:47:24] <jepler> /usr/lib/ghdl/bin/ghdl: compilation error
[15:47:28] <jepler> well that's unhelpful
[15:48:03] <cradek> kwallace1: here is the code from my desktop mill:
http://pastie.org/9450769
[15:48:54] <kwallace1> cradek, the problem is that the g-code position is in the active work and tool space, which changes when the tool length or anything else changes. I end up chasing my tail trying to compensate for the state changes.
[15:49:03] <jepler> yay, it works (it was non-executable $TMPDIR biting me again)
[15:49:51] <cradek> kwallace1: G10 L11 is the built-in way to deal with that
[15:50:40] <cradek> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G10-L11
[15:51:58] <cradek> kwallace1: notice my remap uses M73 then G20, so even if the program changes units it still works
[15:55:43] <kwallace1> I'll need to study this a while to get up to speed. Thank you for the help.
[15:55:59] <cradek> welcome
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[16:01:32] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I now have ghdl working well enough on debian wheezy that it can make the .pin / .xml files for hostmot2
[16:03:27] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: in case you get motivated to put ghdl in our deb repository, here's the source:
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/ghdl
[16:03:51] <jepler> looks like it's needed for wheezy, precise, and would be needed for feisty if we ever climbed on that bandwagon.
[16:06:45] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont think you meant feisty
[16:06:49] <seb_kuzminsky> trusty?
[16:06:52] <jepler> sure, that one
[16:07:06] <jepler> derpy duckbill
[16:08:20] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for modernizing ghdl, but i'm pretty unmotivated to mess with the hm2 buildslave at this point
[16:08:57] <jepler> yes, and I'm not suggesting you should move it to wheezy
[16:10:22] <jepler> but on general principle, it's good to wear down the barriers we can to other people building hostmot2-firmware
[16:13:15] <seb_kuzminsky> for sure
[16:13:33] <cradek> I suspect udev's MODE="666" is read as decimal because there's no leading 0
[16:15:21] <jepler> oops, where'd we write that?
[16:15:36] <cradek> the xhc rule
[16:15:36] <seb_kuzminsky> lots of files in /lib/udev/ have MODE="660", so i dont think so
[16:15:52] <seb_kuzminsky> files shipped by people who would know better
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[16:16:20] <cradek> not here
[16:16:34] <cradek> oh yes there are some
[16:16:43] <cradek> I suspect they're all broken
[16:16:47] <seb_kuzminsky> heh could be
[16:16:55] <seb_kuzminsky> i wish dgarr were here
[16:18:36] <cradek> I only see 3-digit MODEs in one file, 69-libmtp.rules, which is some usb soundcardy stuff
[16:20:34] <seb_kuzminsky> on precise i see non-0-starting MODEs in 40-flashrom.rules and 69-libmtp.rules
[16:20:43] <seb_kuzminsky> i bet you're right
[16:20:49] <cradek> laaaaame
[16:21:37] <jepler> udev manpage sure doesn't say what is required
[16:22:18] <jthornton> skunkworks, yes
[16:22:18] <cradek> nor does
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/udev.html
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[16:23:29] <jepler> well, I have a udev entry here for my phone
[16:23:35] <jepler> MODE="0660" and MODE="660" both worked the same
[16:23:55] <jepler> assuming .. do I have to restart udev after editing one of those files?
[16:24:02] <cradek> the docs say maybe
[16:24:33] <jepler> though I didn't see the original report, maybe the reporting user is on some other version of linux
[16:24:40] <cradek> it's wheezy
[16:24:49] <cradek> but I think that T is a smoking gun
[16:25:16] <seb_kuzminsky> dont know what OP is running, but dewey reproduced the problem on wheezy
[16:25:27] <cradek> although he didn't get exactly 1232 so maybe it gets masked automagically
[16:25:55] <cradek> uh he got 1664
[16:26:08] <cradek> I probably didn't correctly guess the problem
[16:27:50] <jepler> I get mode crw-rw---T+ both ways
[16:28:06] <jepler> + indicates extended file access controls which can be shown with getfacl
[16:28:28] <jepler> this ties in with console user stuff
[16:28:52] <jepler> the meat in the seat gets special permissions
[16:29:00] <cradek> his doesn't show T+
[16:29:07] <jepler> huh
[16:29:35] <jepler> with no matching entry at all, I get crw-rw-r-T+ for my device
[16:29:40] <jepler> it may be that some other udev rules are matching it
[16:29:41] <cradek> maybe his rule isn't even firing at all
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[16:30:42] <seb_kuzminsky> this all reminds me that the shuttlexpress driver needs a udev rule too
[16:30:49] <seb_kuzminsky> that's a piece of hardware i actually have, so i can test it
[16:31:31] <jepler> is the user in group "users"?
[16:31:52] <cradek> no
[16:32:15] <cradek> which is why it may have worked until now, with the wrong mode
[16:34:42] <jepler> sticky bit is udev's hint to itself not to remove the device node when the underlying module is unloaded (why?)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/02/msg01273.html
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[16:41:23] <jepler> To make things more confusing, apparently there is both ATTR{idProduct} and ATTRS{idProduct}
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[16:43:18] <cradek> it's weird if MODE is just broken
[16:43:20] <dgarr> so i think 90-xhc.rules will work on both debian-wheezy and ubuntu if group is changed to plugdev, any contrary opinion?
[16:43:23] <seb_kuzminsky> hi dgarr
[16:43:47] <seb_kuzminsky> we were just talking about the xhc-hb04 problem
[16:43:48] <jepler> dgarr: so the group that is requested sticks and the mode that is requested doesn't ?
[16:44:09] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: that's the case in my udev rules testing here, on wheezy
[16:44:22] <dgarr> yes: crw-rw-r-T 1 root plugdev 189, 769 Aug 6 09:34 002
[16:44:30] <seb_kuzminsky> i can control the group but not the mode, using a rules file for my phone
[16:44:38] <cradek> that's very weird
[16:44:45] <jepler> dgarr: try moving 90-xhc.rules to 99-xhc.rules
[16:44:49] <jepler> and test again
[16:45:35] <dgarr> jepler: test by unplugging , mv 90 99; plug again?
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[16:45:40] <jepler> dgarr: yes
[16:45:55] <dgarr> few minutes and i'll report
[16:46:33] <jepler> wheezy has in 91-permissions.rules: # usbfs-like devices
[16:46:33] <jepler> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", \
[16:46:33] <jepler> MODE="0664"
[16:46:57] <seb_kuzminsky> heh, i just arrived at the same conclusion as jepler
[16:47:14] <seb_kuzminsky> making the rule sort last fixed things on my test system
[16:47:27] <jepler> my file was named 99android.rules all along, so its "MODE" stuck
[16:47:58] <seb_kuzminsky> and just to make cradek happy, MODE="666" and MODE="0666" both yield rw-rw-rw-
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[16:48:40] <cradek> oh good. all is not crazy.
[16:49:10] <cradek> fwiw, I could also add the install user to group users
[16:49:14] <cradek> if that makes compatibility easier
[16:49:59] <dgarr> after mv,works (still plugdev): crw-rw-rwT 1 root plugdev 189, 770 Aug 6 09:48 003
[16:50:17] <seb_kuzminsky> a normal user on precise is part of plugdev but not users
[16:50:17] <jepler> I wonder if our rules file should go in /lib/udev/rules.d .. it depends whether you take the view that it's a configuration file or not, I guess
[16:50:26] <cradek> debian adduser doesn't put new users in group users (or anything)
[16:50:32] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: does precise have 91-permissions.rules?
[16:50:36] <cradek> maybe plugdev is more right, then
[16:51:00] <seb_kuzminsky> GROUP="plugdev" seems right
[16:51:18] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: nope
[16:51:27] <cradek> so we'll belt and suspenders it
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[16:51:55] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: there's no '*perm*' file anywhere in /lib/udev
[16:52:20] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: thanks for your testing
[16:52:23] <memleak> what has been the recent problems in regards to glade? i recall a few days ago someone said something about it.
[16:52:48] <jepler> memleak: there are two different problems.
[16:53:09] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: stepconf used gtk.Builder wrong and got different results on wheezy/precise and lucid
[16:53:12] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler fixed it
[16:53:38] <jepler> memleak: the other problem was that debian wheezy did not package a version of glade that could be used to modify the glade files in linuxcnc due to a version mismatch; we fixed that by packaging it
[16:54:23] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: would you rename the xhc rules file to 99- and fix the GROUP?
[16:54:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll make a 2.6.2 soon with the fix
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[16:57:26] <dgarr> yes: mv and ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="0666", OWNER="root", GROUP="plugdev"
[16:57:38] <jepler> dgarr: +1
[16:58:00] <seb_kuzminsky> (emoji for thumbs up)
[16:58:54] <jepler> 🖒
[16:59:28] <jepler> (unfortunately not in my irssi client's character set so I can't actually admire it)
[16:59:57] <jepler> logger[psha]: url
[17:00:28] <jepler> 👍
[17:00:39] <jepler> hmm I typed the wrong thing the first time to boot
[17:00:55] <cradek> only squares
[17:01:26] <jepler> cradek: the log transported the UTF-8 properly though
[17:01:27] <cradek> I guess I need to learn to interpret \U0001f44d
[17:01:34] <jepler> your browser needs a better font
[17:01:54] <jepler> not to mention your irc client
[17:01:57] <cradek> meh
[17:02:15] <ssi> 💩
[17:02:50] <seb_kuzminsky> 7-bit ascii was enough for my grand-pappy, and it's enough for me
[17:03:02] <ssi> but how did he draw his BBS menus?!
[17:03:16] <seb_kuzminsky> +---+
[17:03:23] <seb_kuzminsky> | * |
[17:03:25] <seb_kuzminsky> +---+
[17:03:27] <ssi> :D
[17:03:29] <cradek> pretty sure mine used baudot
[17:03:59] <seb_kuzminsky> did you guys see #387? bug in the new TP maybe?
[17:04:08] <jepler> PETSCII > CP437
[17:05:44] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: yep, sure is
[17:10:46] <seb_kuzminsky> i mailed rob ellenberg a link to the bug report
[17:12:06] <seb_kuzminsky> i totally didn't put in a snarky comment about how the new TP is not in 2.6
[17:12:09] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm so mature
[17:12:26] <jepler> you gotta break a few tools to make an omelet
[17:12:59] <cradek> putting it in master but not 2.6 was best, yay, no snark needed
[17:13:50] <cradek> "guess nobody tried lathe stuff yet" is a perfectly reasonable thing to discover on master
[17:14:36] <jepler> certainly while we don't have a basic lathe test in tests/
[17:14:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 052.6-stepconf-multiple-builders cd9b306 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd9b306
[17:15:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05seb/2.6/checkglade ada9d9d 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ada9d9d
[17:16:29] <jepler> cradek: though I don't remember what it did .. did it just not synchronize with the spindle at all?
[17:16:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.6 d728606 06linuxcnc 04debian/extras/etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules 03debian/extras/etc/udev/rules.d/99-xhc.rules xhc-hb04: reorder rules name, use plugdev group * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d728606
[17:16:43] <cradek> which?
[17:16:54] <jepler> cradek: new TP on lathe
[17:17:12] <cradek> I think spindle-sync capped speed at the gcode's F word
[17:17:22] <cradek> this is a different bug, you can't pause a fpr move
[17:17:22] <jepler> yeah that sounds right
[17:18:27] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, i didnt know about the new tp vs lathe bug
[17:18:33] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks dgarr!
[17:19:21] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: sam found that first one when we were there playing with it
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[17:22:50] <jepler> http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~dwalton/ResearchDocs/p739_s_a.pdf [Three dimensional biarc approximation]
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[18:14:50] <seb_kuzminsky> does rob ellenberg know about the problem with lathes?
[18:18:48] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr, cradek: i think there's no need for the xhc.rules file to set OWNER or GROUP, all we need is a MODE with world-rw bits on
[18:19:00] <seb_kuzminsky> the OWNER and GROUP would be whatever the defaults on the system dictate
[18:19:13] <seb_kuzminsky> doesn't matter much one way or another
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[18:39:01] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: rob already fixed the first (ssm) one but not the second (fpr) that was just reported
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[18:39:55] <jepler> oops, one more file to edit :-/
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[20:19:56] <jepler> dgarr: I haven't gotten around to fixing the buildbot errors .. not sure if you saw them by reading the irc log
[20:20:31] <jepler> dgarr: the file you renamed is named in another file, so it needs to be changed there too
[20:20:34] <jepler> debian/extras/linuxcnc.files:etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules
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[20:25:07] <dgarr> oops, back from lunch
[20:25:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.6 a99c345 06linuxcnc 10debian/extras/linuxcnc.files xhc-hb04: update linuxcnc.files too * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a99c345
[20:29:53] <jepler> dgarr: thank you
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[21:10:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05master e717992 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c tp: fix for G95 pausing bug from Rick * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e717992
[21:11:14] <cradek> he's fast
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[21:14:53] <skunkworks_> wow
[21:15:39] <cradek> I really should try master on my lathe, pausing, css, fpr, ssm
[21:15:42] <cradek> lathes are the worst things
[21:16:22] <cradek> uninterrupted ssm->ssm like the fusee code
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[21:22:01] <seb_kuzminsky> wow!
[21:24:37] <JT-Shop> wow that was fast
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[21:25:46] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: thanks for updating the website with the 2.6 downloads the other day
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[21:54:44] <skunkworks_> from rob... Thanks! I got lucky because it was a stupid mistake :).
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[21:55:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it's funny how often smart people get lucky
[21:55:30] <seb_kuzminsky> err, that didn't come out how i meant it
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[21:57:05] <PCW> skunkworks_ are you running the wheezy dist on your J1800/J1900?
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[23:22:28] <skunkworks_> pcw: yes
[23:22:30] <skunkworks_> on both
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[23:22:57] <skunkworks_> mainly what I have been testing
[23:23:02] <PCW> hmm i cant get the usb image to boot
[23:23:23] <skunkworks_> you wont.
[23:24:01] <skunkworks_> with the rtai - the usb don't work. so after a bit - the boot fails because the usb ports disapear in linux.
[23:24:30] <skunkworks_> I used a dvd for the inital install - then installed the rt_preempt which works with the usb's
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[23:26:26] <PCW> well thats a bit awkward :-(
[23:26:58] <PCW> I guess normal wheezy would install
[23:27:17] <PCW> and the rest could done from source
[23:29:03] <PCW> I guess that how i did the ubuntu install (usb boot from 12.04 then install the rest)
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[23:34:27] <skunkworks_> right - I was going to do that - but couldn't figure out what I needed to download.. ;)
[23:37:19] <PCW> yeah maybe I'll fight with this later
[23:37:25] <skunkworks_> huh - chromecast hdmi device is pretty neat
[23:37:55] <skunkworks_> you can boot off the linuxcnc wheezy dvd - you just need ps2 mouse and keyboard...
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[23:38:10] <skunkworks_> (and the dvd drive hooked in sata...)
[23:39:08] <PCW> Yeah but I would have to pull a DVD drive from a working system so later
[23:42:07] <PCW> i guess I could put it on a CF
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[23:48:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 6ec6995 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported master now supports rtpreempt * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ec6995
[23:48:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 8b88a71 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported master now supports the armhf architecture * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b88a71
[23:48:45] <seb_kuzminsky> we'll see how that goes
[23:49:26] <JT-Shop> skunkworks_, yes I got wheezy up and running, just a few little hiccups
[23:49:38] <jepler> PCW: the 7i90hd manual will have details on how spi communication works?
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[23:50:47] <PCW> Yes
[23:51:19] <jepler> PCW: I see it's also called "LBP16", I take it it's similar to the ethernet
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[23:52:22] <PCW> lbp16 is the hm2 over serial interface (basically the same as ethernet)
[23:52:33] <PCW> SPI is different
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[23:52:40] <jepler> OK
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[23:53:37] <PCW> (there are 4 possible 7I90 configs ATM, HM2_EPP,HM2_Serial,HM2_SPI and ssremote)
[23:53:46] <jepler> PCW: oh, a nit: 7i80hdman doesn't give the Y distance to pin 1 of the HD connectors. (I was reminded of this because 7i90hdman does)
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[23:54:06] <PCW> ok thanks
[23:54:54] <PCW> (they are the same BTW)
[23:54:59] <jepler> PCW: I was guessing so
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[23:56:58] <PCW> hmm bitfiles work rather badly when the ucf file is not associated with the top level file
[23:57:19] <jepler> OK, found the SPI section. In a way, it feels a lot like epp mode
[23:58:36] <PCW> yeah pretty low level ( deliberately all 32 bit transfers so the SPI hardware doesn't need to be fiddled with in the middle of things )
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