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[01:16:32] <memfrob> some files from ubc3-7i80 were ignored by git during the merge into master
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[01:16:49] <memfrob> specifically src/emc, any idea why?
[01:17:20] <mozmck> Make sure git wasn't told to ignore changes to those files.
[01:19:13] <mozmck> by ignore I mean --assume-unchanged
[01:19:44] <memfrob> just FYI i need to redo the merge into master, something went wrong
[01:19:58] <memfrob> (ubc3-7i80-master branch is broken)
[01:19:59] <mozmck> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2363197/can-i-get-a-list-of-files-marked-assume-unchanged
[01:20:37] <mozmck> I mention the assume-unchanged because it bit me once, and it is not an obvious thing. I don't know how some of my files got marked with that either.
[01:21:33] <memfrob> that's really odd, thanks mozmck. i never ran into this kind of issue before.
[01:21:49] <memfrob> (and i have years of experience with git btw)
[01:23:35] <memfrob> now instead of me copypasta by hand, is there a way to tell git to not ignore those files when running merge?
[01:25:04] <memfrob> ah --no-assume-unchanged
[01:26:21] <memfrob> git update-index --assume-unchanged <file> is the syntax. i wonder if it takes wildcards.
[01:26:46] <memfrob> (dont ignore anything unless its in .gitignore)
[01:27:00] <memfrob> ^that should be the default anyway, 100% of the time
[01:27:00] <mozmck> I don't know.
[01:27:18] <mozmck> I found the files that did not update and ran it on them I believe.
[01:27:44] <memfrob> mozmck, if you ran into the same issue, that means the .git directory in linuxcnc is borkde
[01:28:07] <mozmck> Oh! This was on a different project of mine!
[01:28:15] <mozmck> sorry for the confusion.
[01:28:34] <memfrob> maybe my .git directory is messed up then?
[01:29:18] <mozmck> I don't know! That just came to mind when you said some files were ignored.
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[01:29:50] <memfrob> if this is exclusively on my end then my ISP is now officially impossible for me to work with.
[01:30:12] <mozmck> I was able to to tell it --no-assume-unchanged on the file or 2 that refused to commit and fixed it.
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[01:42:45] <CaptHindsight> our ISP is unstable the past couple of days, have to add another provider or wait till it settles down :(
[01:43:28] <CaptHindsight> so uploading anything over a few MB to GIT is hosed for the time being
[01:44:05] <CaptHindsight> thank you AT&T
[01:44:33] <CaptHindsight> the service is fine as long as you hardly use it
[01:45:24] <CaptHindsight> so that GIT diff of ubc3-7i80 is broken for the time being
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[07:50:45] <seb_kuzminsky> new linux + rtai debs here:
[07:50:47] <seb_kuzminsky> deb
http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc/rtai-debs/2014-06-25 wheezy main
[07:51:03] <seb_kuzminsky> for now it's just wheezy 32-bit
[07:51:44] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc master builds & passes runtests for me with the 686-pae rtai kernel image in a vm, but i haven't tried moving metal with it yet
[07:52:23] <seb_kuzminsky> the kernel is 3.4.87, which is the latests supported by shabby's rtai repo as far as i know
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[07:52:59] <seb_kuzminsky> rtai itself is a fairly old version, the tip of master didn't build for me, i'll be bisecting it in the coming days...
[07:53:37] <seb_kuzminsky> the rtai version is basically the same as the 3.4.55-rtai debs from before (since we know it works)
[08:03:53] <memfrob> seb_kuzminsky, master is a big mess
[08:04:05] <memfrob> i spent months on it..
[08:05:36] <memfrob> by basically the same, how do you mean?
[08:07:46] <memfrob> seb_kuzminsky, i wish you a lot of luck with the new master branch. its been the most difficult task i ever faced
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[12:59:42] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: +1
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[14:38:51] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: yes!!
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[17:08:33] <memfrob> seb_kuzminsky, if you have any questions for me let me know in regards to master of RTAI
[17:10:02] <seb_kuzminsky> memfrob: are you memleak?
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[17:13:55] <CaptHindsight> yes
[17:14:02] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[17:14:07] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, cool, thanks
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[17:15:58] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm currently building a0dc5355ee233032926dd23d1e132ef1befbbd76, plus a bunch of local debian packaging commits that i'm not ready to send a PR for yet, plus Lukas Anzinger's makefile parsing commit
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[17:28:03] <memfrob> i just remembered one more bug in RTAI!
[17:28:17] <memfrob> one moment for the specific section
[17:29:08] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[17:33:15] <memfrob> its the timer setup
[17:33:27] <memfrob> however that can possibly just be a specific board issue
[17:36:59] <memfrob> https://github.com/ShabbyX/RTAI/blob/master/base/sched/sched.c#L2811
[17:37:37] <memfrob> timer setup for me is stuck at 159 and when its there as opposed to 999 ns i've been having problems
[17:38:40] <memfrob> what affects the value of the timer setup i'm not sure but that value is supposed to be at 999 ns
[17:39:06] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, ok
[17:39:07] <memfrob> (At least when the kernel timer freq is set to 1000 Hz)
[17:39:10] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll keep an eye out for it
[17:40:25] <memfrob> you can set the timer freq in the kernel config menu under processor type and features, its near the bottom of that menu.
[17:42:02] <memfrob> seb_kuzminsky, for RTAI did you just add the 3.4.87 kernel patch to base/arch/x86/patches and do you know the IPIPE release for that?
[17:42:12] <memfrob> is it -4, -1, -3, etc?
[17:43:15] <memfrob> i.e. hal-linux-3.4.87-X(ipipe release)-x86.patch
[17:44:01] <seb_kuzminsky> the linux-image i built is using the kernel patch from the tip of shabby's master, but the rtai modules are using that older commit (a0dc5355e)
[17:44:17] <memfrob> i tried -3 and -4 releases and those wouldn't work for me in the a0dc5355ee commit
[17:44:54] <memfrob> thats -4 wow!
[17:45:17] <memfrob> see thats one of the reasons i got fed up with RTAI is that i couldnt tell what issues were upstream and what problems were just board specific for me
[17:45:49] <memfrob> if latency-test works for you with -4 then my specific board is broken with -4 with a0dc5355ee commit
[17:46:15] <seb_kuzminsky> memfrob: i'm using the patch called hal-linux-3.4.87-x86-4.patch
[17:46:43] <memfrob> yes thats -4 which doesnt work for me
[17:46:59] <memfrob> i would get hard locks every minute, sometimes even less
[17:47:12] <memfrob> forced to reboot
[17:47:26] <seb_kuzminsky> that kernel patch (applied to 3.4.87) is passing the linuxcnc runtests and the rtai tests (kern/{latency,preempt,switches})
[17:47:37] <memfrob> thats interesting it works for you
[17:47:43] <seb_kuzminsky> in a virtual machine
[17:48:00] <memfrob> goes to show that in order to work on RTAI you need a bunch of boards to test every single patch on
[17:48:12] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah...
[17:48:14] <cradek> yuck
[17:48:31] <memfrob> luckily im fed up with RTAI and dont need to touch it anymore
[17:49:28] <memfrob> i might join xenomai actually as much as i previously hated it
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[17:50:23] <memfrob> hello micges!
[17:50:29] <micges> ahoy
[17:50:48] <micges> what's up?
[17:51:00] <seb_kuzminsky> memfrob: i'm pretty excited about rt-preempt
[17:51:12] <memfrob> thanks for all that heavy lifting with hm2-ethernet
[17:51:30] <memfrob> you are? why is that?
[17:52:15] <memfrob> if you're trying to run a fast machine with fancy expensive hardware it lacks
[17:52:23] <micges> memfrob: it's not the end of journey but driver is working stable
[17:52:31] <memfrob> s/with/without/
[17:53:30] <memfrob> ah that reminds me! in order for me to seperate xenomai + preempt-rt from the rest of the ubc-3 branch i need to remove the 7i80 / rt-net stuff because the merge is too big and confusing me
[17:54:15] <memfrob> if i separated the ubc-3 branch from the git mah priv server would that be ok?
[17:54:56] <memfrob> merging in ubc3-7i80 into master just includes too much stuff and i cant tell what belongs where
[17:55:12] <memfrob> which stand-alone ubc-3 branch should i use?
[17:55:53] <micges> memfrob: why you want to merge ubc3-7i80 to master?>
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[17:57:11] <memfrob> micges, not specifically. linuxcnc devs want xenomai and preempt-rt seperated from the rest of mhab's changes such as beaglebone black, etc
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[17:58:21] <memfrob> in order to do that i need more of a baseline of ubc-3 without additional changes on top of that such as hm2-eth
[17:59:05] <micges> I used latest ubc3 available and added just hm2_eth stuff
[17:59:32] <memfrob> latest ubc3 available, do you mean from git.linuxcnc or git mah priv?
[17:59:45] <micges> from git.linuxcnc.org
[17:59:45] <memfrob> because git mah priv has newer ubc3 code
[18:00:09] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, lunch
[18:00:47] <memfrob> ah so i can just merge ubc-3 to master then isolate the rtapi code, ok
[18:01:16] <micges> I don't know in what shape ubc3 is atm
[18:02:05] <micges> it was working for me (hm2_eth) so I didn't pay much attention
[18:05:53] <memfrob> currently from what i see ubc-3 hasnt changed much since ubc3-7i80
[18:06:02] <memfrob> just v2.5 merges and various fixes outside of rtapi
[18:08:50] <memfrob> in which case is that accepted?
[18:10:36] <memfrob> (for me to separate xenomai and preempt-rt from rest of mhab's changes based on latest ubc-3 branch)
[18:11:45] <CaptHindsight> micges: but we also want to merge your 7i80 into master as well
[18:11:58] <CaptHindsight> your additions
[18:12:35] <CaptHindsight> but one step at a time so we can test it
[18:14:40] <memfrob> yeah that's what i meant, its hard to express myself at times
[18:15:00] <memfrob> @ micges
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[18:23:23] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: what's the procuedure for pushes to 2.6 right now? I have some stuff I think is safe bugfixing, but it doesn't fix any user-visible problems
[18:23:39] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: fixing configure for systems which happen to have more than one version of tcl-dev / tk-dev (pick latest one)
[18:23:49] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: fixing rtapi_print_msg's argument type to msg_level_t instead of int level
[18:24:03] <memfrob> jepler, while working on configure can you add rsyslog and tkimg?
[18:24:04] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: not linking two copies of liblinuxcnchal to milltask
[18:24:19] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: and getting rid of a #define that's never used
[18:24:45] <memfrob> i use gentoo and i need to manually install these to run linuxcnc
[18:24:47] <cradek> memfrob: we don't use syslog
[18:24:50] <jepler> memfrob: rsyslog?
[18:25:02] <memfrob> sudo make log requires rsyslog..
[18:25:09] <memfrob> and it tells me to run sudo make log
[18:25:14] <jepler> are you talking about something that is in 2.6 branch?
[18:25:40] <jepler> memfrob: are you talking about something that is in 2.6 branch?
[18:25:54] <memfrob> either that or master
[18:26:13] <memfrob> tkimg at least though is required for 2.5 2.6 and master though
[18:27:45] <memfrob> its used to generate the GUI IIRC
[18:28:18] <jepler> I'm aware that tkimg is required and only debian dependencies pull it in
[18:28:25] <jepler> I am asking about this log thing you mentioned
[18:28:29] <jepler> as far as I know that's not in 2.6 or master
[18:28:34] <jepler> it is in the branch that is unlikely to be merged
[18:29:31] <memfrob> which branch would that be?
[18:29:51] <memfrob> ah you know what.. thats in the ubc-3 branches like ubc3-7i80
[18:29:59] <memfrob> sorry about that..
[18:30:58] <memfrob> if tkimg is required then it should be asking for upon configure as opposed to telling the person to install it after failing to open the machine control interface
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[18:35:07] <jepler> in theory isn't it possible to run keystick and not require img::png ?
[18:35:14] <jepler> it's certainly not required to build the software
[18:35:57] <jepler> well, shrug, possibly this screws up more actual users compared to the zero keystick-only users
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[18:36:33] <memfrob> XD
[18:39:13] <jepler> well since seb isn't telling me "no", probably because he's AFK, I'll push this stuff in a sec
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[18:47:52] <memfrob> <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, lunch
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[18:50:09] <jepler> OK, I'll give him a few more minutes to finish eating
[18:51:57] <memfrob> om nom nom
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[18:59:01] <micges> CaptHindsight: memfrob: I'll happly merge hm2_eth to master when rt-preempt will be supported, I'll finish driver soon
[18:59:42] <CaptHindsight> micges: ok, so we should just ignore that and let you do it when you're done
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[19:00:14] <micges> yeah I think so
[19:00:43] <memfrob> so all that blackberry stuff will be merged too, correct?
[19:00:59] <memfrob> black rasperry pi whatever its called
[19:00:59] <CaptHindsight> micges: ok, is there anything else in there besides the hm2_eth that you did?
[19:01:14] <micges> no
[19:01:32] <CaptHindsight> memfrob: I think the BBB (beaglebone black) stays out for now
[19:01:34] <micges> if there is any rtnet stuff in there, you can drop it
[19:02:12] <memfrob> right beaglebone black.. so micges you're going to separate it?
[19:02:52] <memfrob> because BBB is currently in ubc3-7i80 branch..
[19:03:04] <CaptHindsight> micges: we want to merge support for the three real time kernels first
[19:03:26] * memfrob is so lost right now
[19:03:33] <CaptHindsight> memfrob: then I think micges will merge the hm2_eth
[19:03:38] <jepler> a lot of different people have competing goals and competing ideas about how to get there
[19:03:39] <memfrob> ohh!!
[19:04:19] <CaptHindsight> trying to get consensus here
[19:04:32] <memfrob> jepler, i was under the impression we would get JUST RTOS support merged from ubc3
[19:04:38] <jepler> personally, I would like to see a branch which *only* adds a POSIX userspace rtapi implementation
[19:04:49] <memfrob> ok so we ARE on the same page :)
[19:05:32] <jepler> I think that is a first step on which the hm2_eth stuff builds, and if there's still sufficient interest by people who want to contribute to linuxcnc it is also a place to do the ARM porting work
[19:05:34] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: if it fixes bugs, please push it to 2.6
[19:05:59] <CaptHindsight> yes, ARM can be next, there is interest
[19:06:21] <jepler> also a userspace PCI implementation could be built in after POSIX userspace
[19:06:47] <CaptHindsight> and not just for the BBB ARM, other ARM boards as well
[19:06:47] <CaptHindsight> but that is not high priority
[19:06:56] <CaptHindsight> we probably want to test the hell out of it first
[19:07:24] <jepler> fwiw I have been working for about a week on a different POSIX userspace rtapi implementation, but I haven't run it against a -rt kernel yet to see if it actually performs
[19:08:45] <CaptHindsight> jepler: the first goal is to separate out all the useful bits from ubc3-7i80
[19:08:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 619a88b 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in configure: Choose highest-numbered version of tcl/tk * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=619a88b
[19:08:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 6b1e3e1 06linuxcnc 10(6 files) rtapi: use proper type for rtapi_print_msg level * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b1e3e1
[19:08:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 e00342a 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/sim_common.h Remove unused define * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e00342a
[19:08:56] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 c2cf146 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/Submakefile milltask: don't link with ULAPISRCS * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2cf146
[19:08:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 b42f36d 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in configure: make missing img::png a configure-time failure * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b42f36d
[19:09:05] <CaptHindsight> 1) new real time kernel support
[19:09:19] <CaptHindsight> 2) hm2_eth
[19:09:26] <CaptHindsight> 3) ARM
[19:09:28] <linuxcnc-build_> build #329 of 1400.rip-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1400.rip-wheezy-i386/builds/329 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[19:09:34] <jepler> uh oh! I broke it!
[19:09:39] <CaptHindsight> 4) whatever else looks useful
[19:09:40] <linuxcnc-build_> build #330 of 1401.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1401.rip-wheezy-amd64/builds/330 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[19:09:42] <jepler> so much for simple bugfixes
[19:10:05] <cradek> that's a nice fast failure
[19:11:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.6 537a1e8 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in packaging: must build-depend on what configure checks for * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=537a1e8
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[19:13:42] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1376 of 1301.rip-precise-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1301.rip-precise-rtai-i386/builds/1376 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[19:14:31] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: thanks again for buildbot
[19:14:33] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2172 of 1300.rip-precise-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1300.rip-precise-i386/builds/2172 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[19:15:04] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2174 of 1306.rip-precise-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1306.rip-precise-amd64/builds/2174 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[19:15:19] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1970 of 1901.clang-precise-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed configuring] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1901.clang-precise-amd64/builds/1970 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[19:40:04] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks jepler
[19:48:06] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2176 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/2176 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[20:03:14] <jepler> eep how bad did I hurt buildbot with that commit?
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[20:04:16] <seb_kuzminsky> it just likes to complain a lot
[20:05:21] <jepler> it's the part where buildbot ragequit the channel that has me worried
[20:05:24] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, the disconnect? i think there was a brief power outage at my house and i think my dsl router thingy isn't properly hooked up to my ups
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[20:05:41] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks too
[20:06:28] <jepler> apparently so
[20:07:06] <jepler> hmmm if I hadn't insisted on merging two files and renaming some others, I think this POSIX rtapi implementation would have been quite small in terms of lines changed
[20:07:16] <jepler> as it is, 44 files, 1481 insertions, 1267 deletions
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[20:09:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace 21bfde3 06linuxcnc 10(14 files in 7 dirs) rtapi: use defined(__KERNEL__) to test for kernel space * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=21bfde3
[20:09:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace a7d2e7c 06linuxcnc 10(13 files in 8 dirs) configure: Change "sim" to "uspace", with fallout elsewhere * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7d2e7c
[20:09:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace fc8c477 06linuxcnc 10debian/rules.in 10src/Makefile rtapi_app: setuid permissions * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc8c477
[20:09:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace 3f22058 06linuxcnc 10(5 files) packaging: linuxcnc-uspace, not linuxcnc-sim * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f22058
[20:09:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace a7f2110 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi.c 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc rtapi_app: do commands based on a callback * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7f2110
[20:10:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace 2c5ac28 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/Submakefile 04src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi.c 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: roll uspace_rtapi.c into rtapi_app.cc * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c5ac28
[20:10:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace f064c19 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtai_rtapi.c 10src/rtapi/rtapi.h 10src/rtapi/rtl_rtapi.c 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc rtapi: clock period should be in unsigned longs everywhere * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f064c19
[20:10:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace 38989db 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: Introduce class RtapiApp and implementation Pth * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=38989db
[20:10:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace dcb60b3 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: use POSIX scheduler priorities * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcb60b3
[20:10:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace bed96ec 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: Drop rtapi_task_set_period API * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bed96ec
[20:10:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace 892ff8d 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: task_new is thread-agnostic * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=892ff8d
[20:10:26] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace a10e118 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: Delete "rtapi_task_stop", it's never used * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a10e118
[20:10:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace 6e64c0a 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/Submakefile 10src/rtapi/Submakefile 10src/rtapi/uspace_common.h 10src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc uspace-rtapi: Implement posix realtime * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e64c0a
[20:10:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace c968688 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_common.h uspace-rtapi: get time in nanoseconds, not microseconds * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c968688
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[20:10:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/rtos-uspace f4a9990 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 3 dirs) uspace-rtapi: get rid of use of GNU pth * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4a9990
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[20:11:23] <jepler> feedback welcome
[20:11:30] <jepler> like I mentioned, I haven't actually tried it on a -rt kernel yet
[20:11:42] <jepler> it passes tests on non-rt kernels though
[20:12:31] <cradek> happy happy
[20:13:31] <jepler> also I should mention that it's based on 2.6, not master
[20:13:53] <cradek> I bet it doesn't matter
[20:14:02] <jepler> it auto merges at the moment
[20:14:06] <cradek> cool
[20:16:59] <jepler> I think that either the userspace PCI library or the hm2-eth stuff would be cool to try on top of this branch
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[20:17:31] <cradek> does it run parport (etc) as-is?
[20:17:34] <jepler> when redoing the pci stuff, I would prefer to see all the APIs prefixed and types prefixed with rtapi_ -- in kernel space, just #define rtapi_pci_foo to pci_foo, and in userspace define rtapi_pci_foo
[20:17:48] <cradek> that sounds smart
[20:17:56] <jepler> cradek: no, because parport also uses kernel APIs for getting parport info
[20:18:10] <cradek> oh, ok
[20:18:17] <cradek> serport might work
[20:18:40] <jepler> there's some kind of "sim parport" at src/hal/simdrivers/uparport.c that may do actual I/O in userspace, not sure
[20:18:41] <cradek> (I'm just wondering if we could test this right now)
[20:18:52] <jepler> yeah, the test machine I have has a serial port
[20:18:57] <jepler> with any luck, I'll scope some waveforms on it tonight
[20:19:01] <jepler> I'll come up with something
[20:19:11] <cradek> I'll help any way I can
[20:19:29] <jepler> right now it still doesn't build serport or any other traditional hardware drivers
[20:19:37] <jepler> though there is an implementation of rtapi_outb / inb which should be right
[20:23:06] <cradek> rtapi_clock_set_period() returns unsigned long, but returns -EINVAL on error
[20:23:20] <cradek> is that broken?
[20:23:26] <jepler> huh good question
[20:24:04] <jepler> I only reasoned that it doesn't make sense to pass a negative period to rtapi_clock_set_period
[20:24:07] <jepler> I didn't think about error returns
[20:24:47] <jepler> it certainly means you can't check the return value for < 0
[20:25:03] <cradek> yeah, and I didn't check to see if anything does that
[20:26:04] <jepler> curr_period = rtapi_clock_set_period(period_nsec); if(curr_period < 0) ...
[20:26:07] <jepler> so yup
[20:26:26] <jepler> I guess I should make it "long"
[20:26:30] <cradek> is it true that fast can't ever interrupt slow threads now? if so that seems serious
[20:26:49] <jepler> that commit message must not be clear if it gave that impression
[20:27:14] <jepler> there are now two scenarios possible in userspace: POSIX threads sheduled with SCHED_FIFO or with SCHED_OTHER
[20:27:37] <jepler> with SCHED_FIFO, fast interrupts slow but not vice versa (rate monotonic scheduling). this requires sudo make setuid.
[20:28:06] <jepler> with SCHED_OTHER, nothing interrupts nothing. this is how rtapi_app runs without sudo make setuid, and incidentally is the way that sim with pth always worked
[20:28:41] <cradek> oh, ok
[20:29:15] <jepler> (in both cases, all the realtime threads have affinity for a single processor, so they also can't get scheduled concurrently)
[20:29:49] <cradek> that's the known safe thing we've always had, right?
[20:30:36] <jepler> Yes, I think it's approximately the same guarantee we had on RTAI with UP and RTAI with SMP when we set the CPU affinity.
[20:31:02] <jepler> it passes that threads.0 test when the run is extended to minutes and minutes
[20:31:11] <cradek> nice
[20:31:59] <jepler> .. but so does SCHED_OTHER *without* the mutex but with CPU affinity, which I strongly believe is a flawed setup, so the test is not perfect at detecting this undesired slow-interrupts-fast condition
[20:32:54] <jepler> it detects slow-concurrent-with-fast-on-different-CPUs condition readily
[20:48:01] <jepler> cradek: do you think I should improve that commit message so the trade-off of SCHED_OTHER is clearer?
[20:48:31] <jepler> cradek: (thanks for looking at my commits)
[20:48:40] <jepler> bbl
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[20:55:19] <cradek> I see the "(without root privs)" now and that makes it clearer
[20:55:23] <cradek> I bet it's fine
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[21:23:20] <jepler> nobody reads those anyway
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[23:31:40] <memfrob> i got the complete diff now:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NTULINUX/linuxcnc/master/ubc3-merge.diff
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[23:36:16] <memfrob> thats master vs ubc-3
[23:39:32] <micges> you could remove docs and config and gcode changes, would be much smaller to dig in
[23:41:40] <memfrob> thanks for the tip, will do
[23:44:40] <memfrob> i also accidentally wrote over master..
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