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[00:59:20] <skunkworks_> cradek: so machine kit doesn't have all the bug fixes yet?
[00:59:52] <skunkworks_> or - I wonder if he is getting realtime errors.... That might cause issues like that.. (in the back of my mind)
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[02:31:29] <memleak> skunkworks_, what's the awesome part?
[02:31:45] * memleak made too many proposals at once
[02:44:41] <skunkworks_> getting support for multible realtime kernels
[02:45:11] <skunkworks_> pcw would love for sure - rt-preeempt as an option in linuxcnc...
[02:51:59] <skunkworks_> (and so would I)
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[13:30:04] <skunkworks_> cradek: are you around?
[13:31:08] <skunkworks_> I think the program that was posted on the forum as found another issue.. Could you double check for me?
[13:32:02] <skunkworks_> G61
[13:32:04] <skunkworks_> G1 X -850 F6000
[13:32:05] <skunkworks_> G0 X -325 ; bug appears here
[13:32:07] <skunkworks_> G1 X -275 F300
[13:32:08] <skunkworks_> G0 X -52
[13:32:10] <skunkworks_> G1 X -2 F300
[13:32:11] <skunkworks_> M2
[13:32:33] <skunkworks_> after the f6000 - it runs the rest of the program at G0 speeds.
[13:33:00] <skunkworks_> and it doesn't exact stop
[13:33:17] <skunkworks_> unless I am doing something goofy
[13:36:32] <skunkworks_> I wonder if co-linear line segments are automatically combined.. with no regards to feed
[13:39:34] <skunkworks_> drat - pre-cab works as expected..
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[13:47:21] <skunkworks_> huh - it does work as expected with g64Q0
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[13:50:24] <skunkworks_> huh - then G61 works as expected.. It is almost like when you first start linuxcnc - Q is non-zero.. which effects G61
[13:50:30] <skunkworks_> behavior
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[13:51:03] <skunkworks_> wait - I was running pre-cab..
[13:51:06] <skunkworks_> scratch that
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[13:52:39] <skunkworks_> nope g64q0 doesn't help..
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[14:19:27] <skunkworks> rob is going to look at it
[14:21:12] <pcw_home> A bit too aggressive combining the lines?
[14:22:15] <skunkworks> he said.. Good find, I'll take a look at the tangent-segment code. Likely I forgot a check for blend state in there.
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[15:54:53] <skunkworks_> rob did bring up an interesting point - there should be a difference between g61 and g61.1.. Exact path vs exact stop... Exact path - may not have to stop at the end points to have an 'exact path' vs exact stop which would stop at every end point...
[16:00:10] <cradek> if he feels like making those differences work, it would be utterly defensible
[16:03:24] <skunkworks> I am totally confused now.. The ini file that I was using - with the forum axis settings for x and y - doesn't exact stop for the above program.. but if I go back to my normal test config - it does.
[16:04:16] <skunkworks> and it should anyway - because it is G0 to G1 and G1 to G0 transistions..
[16:04:47] <cradek> I noticed his accel and velocity were the same (for X) which I think means you won't get up to full speed unless your move takes 2 seconds or more... if your config is different you might get very different blending/joining behavior
[16:05:05] <cradek> I was going to dig into this but if rob's on it he'll be able to do it a lot more efficiently :-)
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[16:19:34] <skunkworks> I should say - it doesn't exact stop - but it does slow down to 300mm/m.
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[17:52:00] <skunkworks_> so - it seems like if the acceleration for the axis is low enough - it skips over the slow section...
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[19:27:16] <skunkworks_> axis acceleration set to 3
[19:27:27] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-17%2014:16:14.png
[19:27:34] <skunkworks_> axis acceleration set to 20
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[19:27:54] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-17%2014:18:54.png
[19:28:09] <skunkworks_> ^for the above program
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[20:18:12] <cradek> hmm, upon starting master on wheezy/3.4.55-rtai-2: http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/tpSetTermCond.jpg
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[20:44:44] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: it's weird that the pde has the PS bit cleared, but the pte is 0
[20:50:25] <cradek> I don't know what that means
[20:51:06] <cradek> do you know how to disassemble a .ko? gdb doesn't recognize it...
[20:51:37] <cradek> +0x4 is awfully early in the function, isn't it
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[20:52:57] <cradek> I sent this to -devel
[20:54:03] <micges> cradek: does it crash in sim mode?
[20:54:22] <cradek> yes running sim/axis/axis crashes the same way
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[20:54:48] <micges> I mean --enable-simulator
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[20:55:30] <cradek> nope, that runs fine
[20:55:50] <cradek> ... but let me try on the same machine for good measure
[20:56:50] <cradek> (wonder if it would be possible to run sim motmod in valgrind)
[20:57:02] <cradek> I guess it would be rtapi_app
[20:58:14] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: the page map looks screwed up to me
[20:59:43] <cradek> yes an --enable-simulator build runs fine
[21:00:28] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: what can I do to help find the problem?
[21:00:39] <seb_kuzminsky> is it repeatable when compiled with rtai?
[21:01:24] <cradek> I did it twice, once with my 5i25 config and once with sim/axis/axis
[21:01:34] <cradek> then I cleaned and rebuilt for -sim, which might have been a mistake
[21:01:58] <seb_kuzminsky> it would be helpful to inspect the page table at physical address 0x016a6000, but that probably requires instrumenting the kernel
[21:02:08] <jepler> I typed the hex code into a .s file and built it, but the disassembly doesn't make much sense so I probably fat-fingered it
[21:02:38] <jepler> it starts out sane-ish: test %eax,%eax / mov %eax, %ecx / (faulting instruction) fldl (%edi) / je tpSetTermCond+0x27
[21:03:29] <jepler> but in what calling convention would tolerance be pointed at by %edi? or is it some other double?
[21:04:18] <jepler> to the extent that the contents of %edi and the faulting address are the same, it sort of makes sense
[21:07:40] <cradek> yep, reproduceable after clean/rebuild
[21:07:45] <seb_kuzminsky> oh good
[21:10:21] <cradek> unfortunately, I need to run for about 4h
[21:10:53] <seb_kuzminsky> have a good run ;-)
[21:10:56] <cradek> this is weird. surely others are running master on rtai (but I guess maybe not 3.4.55)
[21:11:28] <cradek> heh, if I had to run for 4h you would probably not hear from me again.
[21:11:37] <seb_kuzminsky> we know runtests passes on precise with 3.4.55-rtai, but maybe that part of the code isn't exercised
[21:12:17] <cradek> hmm, I should try them
[21:13:35] <cradek> linuxcncrsh test crashes
[21:13:46] <seb_kuzminsky> when you get back from your run & subsequent defibrillation, try instrumenting tpSetTermConddoh
[21:13:49] <seb_kuzminsky> doh
[21:14:00] <seb_kuzminsky> might be time for memtest ;-)
[21:15:06] <jepler> when I build that code, I get fldl 0x8(%esp) instead of fldl(%edi)
[21:15:16] <seb_kuzminsky> wait, is this one of those computers you pulled out of a dumpster and/or thrift store? i notice it's got a crt...
[21:15:17] <jepler> dd 44 24 08 vs dd 07
[21:15:29] <seb_kuzminsky> 8(%esp) makes more sense to me
[21:15:38] <seb_kuzminsky> that's on 32-bit, right?
[21:15:50] <jepler> .. but that doesn't make sense either, because the subequent instruction is adding -1 via leal in both cases
[21:16:09] <seb_kuzminsky> 4 for the pointer, then 4 for int cond, then the double tolerance
[21:16:11] <jepler> (this is building by hand for userspace, so gcc flags are going to be different)
[21:17:21] <cradek> will run memtest86 while I'm gone
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[21:17:44] <cradek> this machine runs 2.6/5i25 fine
[21:18:00] <cradek> it's good hardware as far as I know
[21:18:19] <cradek> now really, bbl
[21:19:00] <seb_kuzminsky> wait! how much ram does it have?
[21:19:03] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
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[21:39:52] <cradek> 6 GB
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[21:41:28] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: ^
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[21:48:06] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm ok
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[23:30:34] <skunkworks_> I have only compiled it on the realtime 10.04...
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