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[00:23:40] <skunkworks_> Yay!!!!!
[00:23:47] <skunkworks_> Thanks!
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[00:38:27] <seb_kuzminsky> wowness all around!
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[00:42:47] <cradek> wish Rob E was here
[00:44:01] <cradek> it'll be a while 'til buildbot gets to it...
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[00:46:17] <seb_kuzminsky> we should make an announcement on emc-users
[00:46:48] <cradek> that's a good idea, thanks for volunteering!
[00:46:52] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
[00:47:07] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll ask robert ellenberg if he wants to do it
[00:47:34] <cradek> even better
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[01:01:24] <seb_kuzminsky> rob ellenberg replies: "please make the announcement, i'm busy"
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[01:07:50] <seb_kuzminsky> who should get props? robert ellenberg and sam sokolik, obvs, who else?
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[02:58:26] <skunkworks_> Yay!! again!
[03:00:10] <cradek> yay no more 400 step rebases, yayyy
[03:01:53] <cradek> thanks for putting it on the forum
[03:05:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 05master 5c96888 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.6' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c96888
[03:06:37] <cradek> and with that, goodnight!
[03:07:24] <skunkworks_> night!
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[03:52:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05signed tags 5409dec 06linuxcnc 03v2.6.0-pre4 LinuxCNC v2.6.0-pre4 (tagged commit: 142da1e) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5409dec
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[11:53:45] <jthornton> skunkworks, is the message about the new TP in master close enough to add to the manual verbatim?
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[11:57:00] <skunkworks> jthornton, I am ok with that..
[11:57:21] <skunkworks> It is a pretty good explaination - maybe a bit wordy... :)
[11:57:37] <jthornton> looks good to me
[11:57:37] <skunkworks> it was just copied and pasted from a few of robs posts..
[11:57:46] <skunkworks> it is for sure a good start
[12:02:06] <skunkworks> jthornton, thanks for doing that
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[13:28:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 05master 28bcc7f 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/common/User_Concepts.txt 10docs/src/config/ini_config.txt Docs: add info on trajectory planner ini options * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=28bcc7f
[13:32:26] <skunkworks> Yay
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[14:27:51] <seb_kuzminsky> haha awesome!
[14:28:00] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks jthornton !
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[14:34:40] <seb_kuzminsky> hi KimK
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[15:49:06] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: my spidey senses are tingling
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[15:53:52] <seb_kuzminsky> why do you think that is?
[15:54:40] <seb_kuzminsky> as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced?
[15:54:50] <cradek> uh, no
[15:55:41] <seb_kuzminsky> as if millions of cnc machines suddenly reach their programmed feed rates?
[15:55:53] <cradek> haha
[15:56:00] <seb_kuzminsky> :-)
[15:56:01] <cradek> thanks for the 2.6 prerelease, yay
[15:56:06] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, that
[15:56:11] <seb_kuzminsky> heh yeah
[15:56:13] <cradek> I'm building it now (wheezy machine)
[15:56:17] <cradek> surely it's about time!
[15:56:32] <Tom_itx> does 2.6 pre have rob's TP in it?
[15:56:42] <cradek> no
[15:56:45] <Tom_itx> aww
[15:56:56] <cradek> 2.6 is a stable release suitable for production machines
[15:57:11] <cradek> about 5 people have tested rob's TP on about 3 machines
[15:57:15] <cradek> these are not compatible
[15:57:30] <seb_kuzminsky> ^^^ this man speaks the truth
[15:57:37] <Tom_itx> yeah yeah
[15:57:40] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[15:57:46] * Tom_itx just wishes
[15:57:59] <seb_kuzminsky> it's in the master branch (aka 2.7~pre)
[15:58:00] <cradek> stop wishing and test master!
[15:58:31] <cradek> you doing that will help us be ready for 2.7 sooner
[16:01:52] <Tom_itx> is it still a git download or is in in the master branch(devel) of buildbot.linuxcnc.org?
[16:02:23] <Tom_itx> i've had problems getting that pc connected to the network
[16:02:33] <Tom_itx> i can't figure out what's going on with it
[16:02:40] <cradek> you can do it either way
[16:02:45] <Tom_itx> it just up and quit one day
[16:02:50] <Tom_itx> it's not the hardware
[16:03:10] <Tom_itx> tried running from the CD too
[16:03:28] <Tom_itx> as well as a backed up SSD
[16:03:52] <cradek> sure smells like hardware
[16:04:11] <Tom_itx> i know but i put in a 10/100 card as well and it did the same thing
[16:04:17] <Tom_itx> pulled from working machine
[16:04:33] <mozmck> try a new cable?
[16:04:37] <Tom_itx> just comes back 'network unavailable'
[16:04:39] <Tom_itx> yup
[16:04:42] <Tom_itx> of course :)
[16:04:47] <mozmck> :)
[16:04:52] <cradek> changing the network card often means you have to fix up a file in /etc/udev/rules.d
[16:05:04] <cradek> by fix up I mean remove lines from, or remove
[16:05:27] <Tom_itx> well let's have a look then
[16:05:31] * Tom_itx fires it up
[16:05:34] <cradek> it saves the mac address in that file, for persistence you sometimes don't really want
[16:06:18] <Tom_itx> i need a break anyway, been running cat5 & video cables all over
[16:06:54] <mozmck> interesting - I didn't know that. 90-persistent-net.rules
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[16:09:44] <Tom_itx> 70-persistent-net.rules is probably the one
[16:09:55] <cradek> yeah, if you change an interface and want the new one to still be eth0 (or whatever) you have to nuke the entry for the old one
[16:10:22] <Tom_itx> should i just delete them?
[16:10:27] <Tom_itx> then reboot
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[16:10:30] <cradek> this is fallout from pluggable usb network devices and other bs like that
[16:10:48] <cradek> yeah, try that
[16:11:09] <Tom_itx> oh crap i gotta grow roots
[16:11:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i did not expect Tom_itx to say that
[16:11:40] <mozmck> It is nice to have the network cards stay the same name after reboot.
[16:12:16] <mozmck> I remember having problems getting the card I wanted to be eth0 to stay that way years ago.
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[16:13:18] <Tom_itx> there were 3 entries. eth0-2
[16:13:29] <Tom_itx> not sure where 2 came from
[16:13:34] <Tom_itx> lo?
[16:15:37] <Tom_itx> gawd i need a new pc
[16:16:20] <Tom_itx> pretty sad when your D525 is your best one
[16:16:59] <Tom_itx> still fails to connect
[16:18:26] <Tom_itx> it did add a new entry to the .rules file
[16:18:33] <Tom_itx> same as the previous eth0 one
[16:19:06] <skunkworks> you sure your router isn't doing something funny?
[16:19:13] <Tom_itx> using the r8169 kernel driver
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[16:19:23] <Tom_itx> well it's even a different router now
[16:19:33] <skunkworks> oh - is this realtime?
[16:19:33] <Tom_itx> now that you mention it
[16:19:39] <Tom_itx> yes
[16:19:48] <Tom_itx> it's the 10-04 from the cd
[16:20:18] <skunkworks> was there an issue with that card and rtai? I don't remember now
[16:20:53] <Tom_itx> it was working fine for quite some time
[16:21:02] <skunkworks> do you have a non realtime live cd you could boot off of?
[16:21:10] <skunkworks> worth an experiment
[16:21:17] <Tom_itx> maybe stuffed away somewhere
[16:21:22] <skunkworks> heh
[16:22:10] <skunkworks> I have a ton laying around.. (use them to check smart data and mem checks on windows pc...)
[16:22:54] <Tom_itx> i've got a debian 6.0.4 one but i don't think it's a live cd
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[16:27:11] <pcw_home> I think the live CD worked ok with the 8168/8111 on the D525
[16:27:32] <pcw_home> 10.04 anyway.
[16:28:07] <Tom_itx> i may have an 8.xx rtai live cd stuffed away somewhere
[16:28:37] <Tom_itx> moving stuff around, now i can't find anything
[16:29:26] <cradek> how can every emc-users thread end up talking about guns or politics? it's uncanny.
[16:31:30] <archivist> seems to be the hobby over there
[16:31:50] <Tom_itx> i stay off forums
[16:31:53] <cradek> it's revolting
[16:35:57] <archivist> yup, I had somebody PM me about writing him some gun part gcode for little par and wanted me to spam forums, I escaped, as a brit I dont do guns
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[16:51:56] <pcw_home> Damn, left the vacuum cleaner in the rabbit enclosure of a unguarded moment and Daisy chewed through it (again)
[16:52:47] <archivist> is tasty
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[16:53:45] <pcw_home> must be 1/2 roll of black tape on the cord
[17:02:59] <skunkworks> The cord? I thought the tube.. tingly
[17:03:33] <malcom2073> fried rabbit for dinner?
[17:06:59] <pcw_home> no rabbit damage just cord (years ago we did have a rabbit that had black teeth for a while after a cord mishap)
[17:08:21] <archivist> I am reminded of the bugs bunny toon where he sings killed a wabbit
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[17:17:36] <skunkworks> sure is impressive what andy can do in his little shop
[17:19:40] <cradek> what is that thing?
[17:20:08] <skunkworks> no clue looks liek some sort of ball joint
[17:20:28] <skunkworks> (I tried to find a ner-a-car explotion drawing..)
[17:21:03] <archivist> url?
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[17:22:42] <skunkworks> archivist,
https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5988166686519072513/6022644949143086242?pid=6022644949143086242&oid=108164504656404380542
[17:23:21] <skunkworks> we made the exact style jaw covers for our big vixe
[17:23:24] <skunkworks> vice
[17:23:25] <skunkworks> :)
[17:23:32] <cradek> a part like that is not shown in
http://www.geutskens.eu/neracar/300-wheels_assy.htm
[17:23:50] <archivist> andy being not consistent where he posts stuff, some being on bodgesoc :)
[17:24:57] <skunkworks> have to wait for andy
[17:27:06] <archivist> hmm that drawing does not exactly match
[17:29:04] <cradek> yeah I assumed I'd find a match in there...
[17:30:06] <archivist> it could be a version miss match and the ball and cup being reversed on the other version
[17:30:35] <archivist> other being a replaceable design
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[17:31:11] <skunkworks> http://bodgesoc.blogspot.com/
[17:32:10] <archivist> he also has www.bodgesoc.org
[17:32:45] <cradek> > Yes, it is actually exactly what it looks like. But not for a real one.
[17:32:55] <skunkworks> I don't know what that means
[17:33:15] <skunkworks> he is talking in riddles.
[17:34:22] <cradek> it kind of looks like a rifle bolt
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[17:35:14] <cradek> (which in the UK might explain the riddles)
[17:35:26] <skunkworks> well - then he put it in the wrong pictures... damn him
[17:35:31] <skunkworks> ;)
[17:38:02] <skunkworks> it was posted in a gun related threat I guess...
[17:38:46] <cradek> heh, thread
[17:38:52] <skunkworks> heh - right
[17:38:58] <skunkworks> no slip there..
[17:39:38] <cradek> nope
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[17:43:59] <seb_kuzminsky> looking at the pics that precede it, it looks like it was hand-forged from round bar stock - so probably not a bolt
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[17:48:51] <jthornton> now all we need is a simple way to home a servo driven gantry
[17:49:16] <cradek> smop!
[17:49:41] <jthornton> does not compute
[17:49:49] <seb_kuzminsky> small matter of programming
[17:50:09] <skunkworks> simple
[17:50:13] <jthornton> ah ok that makes sense now
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[17:58:16] <skunkworks> we actually need (in no particular order) circular arc blending for abcuvw, JWP that is sane, gantry homing soluition, JA4 merged to master, hmmm - seem like there is more..
[17:58:50] <archivist> an army of testers and
[17:58:51] <cradek> three full-time developers
[17:59:02] <cradek> and seven clones of skunkworks
[17:59:09] <skunkworks> oh - and parts of ubc...
[17:59:17] <archivist> and Uncle Tom Cobbley
[17:59:21] <cradek> yeah, the new-rtos stuff
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[18:01:59] <skunkworks> then we are done! ;)
[18:03:08] <archivist> I bet there will be a new wish list by then
[18:03:14] <skunkworks> hush!
[18:03:34] <archivist> or I should say, rinse repeat
[18:10:19] <cradek> LINUXCNC - 2.6.0~pre4
[18:10:20] <cradek> yay
[18:10:39] <skunkworks> I thought we already knew that?
[18:10:52] <skunkworks> or did the build bot finish?
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[18:14:40] <cradek> I built and installed a deb on my rtai/wheezy machine
[18:14:49] <cradek> and it runs
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[18:22:01] <skunkworks> Yay@
[18:22:06] <skunkworks> yay!
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[18:23:10] <skunkworks> did you get a chance to work on the wheezy livecd yet?
[18:23:44] <cradek> yes, progress is happening
[18:23:53] <skunkworks> yay^2
[18:27:27] <skunkworks> if you need any testing...
[18:27:35] <skunkworks> you saw all the hardware here...
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